So as not to mislead you I am making this thread for advice on WHEN the updates comes out.
I am asking of those who know! For official OTA's what is required before actually downloading and installing.
- Do we need to revert to the stock recovery?
- Do we need to re-lock the bootloader?
- Will OTA's update the bootloader?
- We only get one shot at an OTA download, right?
Hopefully we can gather information on how successfully use an OTA. Especially with Sense 5 coming up.
(P.S. I have no chance at using RUU. I only have a Mac lying around. So I NEED OTA's!)
(P.P.S This is not a question.)
Seems like all we'll need is stock recovery and stock rom. Hopefully I can find my stock att backup
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do any one know if the link to download 1.19 ota on att hox+. i am stuck on 1.17 and thinking if the ota can be updated or sideloaded using adb...
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hey i wan`t to get s-off will this update affect my future project?
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Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.
I haven't found a straight answer yet, so I am posting here. I am currently stock but I would like to root some time in the near future. I would also like to try the update before rooting. However, I am concerned that if I apply the update that the root method in the development forums may no longer be valid. Is it possible that Verizon could lock down the phone with this OTA update such that I will not be able to root after it is applied?
Thanks,
Josh
The ota is the exact same as what was leak about 2 weeks ago. JCase compared both and made that determination. I believe he also made a root unsigned copy for down load. Most devs have already incorporated this update into their roms. The only thing is the new radio will need flashed. Check out the development section and look for the roms posted by jcase. It is best not to run the ota/leaked on the older radio as they compliment each other. Any other questiins pm.
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I thought this update included the new radios?
U would have to flash the entire ruu, and that will give u everything. Most rooted flash the rom through recovery the flash radio through hboot. Jcase has a nice op in the development section.
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So if I update my stock phone via the ota update, I can still root afterwards if I decide no problem?
It appears that yes you should be able to root the ota via JCase's root tutorial.
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If u decide to flash a custom rom, the update is in most of them, u would just have to flash the radio separate.
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Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
reilly44 said:
Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
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If you're rooted, you could have gotten the OTA update weeks ago. But if you are determined to return to stock for whatever reason, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423.
A lot of roms already have the OTA's long before they are released, i use those and dont even bother with OTA's anymore. I would really consider staying with root. theres so much more you can do i dont see why anyone wouldnt want it. but if you are determined to then the link mentioned above works fine.
What radio should I flash via hboot on Das BAMF v1.6.3? There are 4 combos to choose from.
Which radio combo is included in the OTA that just went out a few days ago? Is that the one I should choose for Das BAMF v1.6.3?
So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
Thanks!
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So, what happens to a rooted phone when the official update to ics comes out? Will you be able to update through Verizon, or will a dev need to work on it first? I know there are some great ics roms out there already, but what if you wanted to try the stock update? My wife also has a rezound and she won't let me "mess" with hers.
Thanks!
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use ruu and go back to stock for the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466474
go here and do #1~3
for #3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...5&postcount=58
go here and download and use this file
this one is the lastest stock ruu.
One of two options:
1. If you are already rooted, wait for a Dev to build a ROM based on the OTA so you can safely flash it.
2. You can unroot/relock your phone to accept the OTA update.
The problem with # 2 is the current methods to achieve root may not work on the updated software so it is possible to be stuck without root for awhile (unless someone finds a work-around).
The way I understand it is simple. You will be able to upgrade to a rooted is rom, however you will not be able to update the radios if you are s-on. I'm Gonna hold out. There will be an unlock tool after ics drops...whether same day or eventually.
A rooted version of the OTA rom will be released within a couple hours of the OTA.
Hi...
i've rooted, HTC unlocked my Sprint Evo 4G LTE as well as flashed the MeanROM.
Will be safe for the OTA i will receive soon for 4G LTE from sprint if i use the "Original Stock" ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766628&highlight=original+stock
Or do i have to do the whole relocking the bootloader and using RUU, etc?
Thanks in advance !
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Hi...
i've rooted, HTC unlocked my Sprint Evo 4G LTE as well as flashed the MeanROM.
Will be safe for the OTA i will receive soon for 4G LTE from sprint if i use the "Original Stock" ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766628&highlight=original+stock
Or do i have to do the whole relocking the bootloader and using RUU, etc?
Thanks in advance !
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never ever ever acceot a OTA from sprint!!! just flash the frimwear and radio zip in the bootloader.. and flash the new mean rom and u will be all set!!!!!
evo401 said:
never ever ever acceot a OTA from sprint!!! just flash the frimwear and radio zip in the bootloader.. and flash the new mean rom and u will be all set!!!!!
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So if i download that ROM that i linked to (Not the meanROM, the supposed stock ROM) and flashed it ... i still cannot accept any OTA updates?
I guess i just need an explanation as to why i can't receive OTAs on any ROM other than the official out of the box stock ROM. Is it the unlocked boot loader? Is is because it is rooted? Which ROMs will allow me to receive OTAs ?
If that is what's happening i would most definitely like to revert to stock as we have the new 4G LTE OTA update from Sprint coming soon here in, probably today, and i wont be around for my friend to flash his ROMs forever. It's starting to look like doing him a favor was a mistake. I should have only rooted it.
Any links, guides, or info about how to return his phone to stock as if right out of the box would be much appreciated. I made backups but i think he deleted them ...
Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
exitpr0gram said:
So if i download that ROM that i linked to (Not the meanROM, the supposed stock ROM) and flashed it ... i still cannot accept any OTA updates?
I guess i just need an explanation as to why i can't receive OTAs on any ROM other than the official out of the box stock ROM. Is it the unlocked boot loader? Is is because it is rooted? Which ROMs will allow me to receive OTAs ?
If that is what's happening i would most definitely like to revert to stock as we have the new 4G LTE OTA update from Sprint coming soon here in, probably today, and i wont be around for my friend to flash his ROMs forever. It's starting to look like doing him a favor was a mistake. I should have only rooted it.
Any links, guides, or info about how to return his phone to stock as if right out of the box would be much appreciated. I made backups but i think he deleted them ...
Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
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You never want to accept an OTA. Ever. If you do you can no longer gain s-off and it will severely hinder what you can flash from recovery.
Just flash any of the Roms and radios based on the newest update and you are done.
Once more for clarity...
NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA.
Teach your friend how to flash roms. Easy as pie
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Rxpert said:
You never want to accept an OTA. Ever. If you do you can no longer gain s-off and it will severely hinder what you can flash from recovery.
Just flash any of the Roms and radios based on the newest update and you are done.
Once more for clarity...
NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA.
Teach your friend how to flash roms. Easy as pie
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Thank you for that explanation. Why else would the developers add firmware updates separately on their pages? I should have known.
My buddy did say that he accepted an OTA even tho i told him not to... he said it snuck up on him and wouldn't have known if he hadn't needed to use his phone at THAT moment.
Could this be why i cannot find the backup i created previously? Just wondering ... I can obviously flash and root etc but the "Devil is in to detail" and i don't have all the details yet.
Thanks again.
I could be way wrong here, but I don't believe you can accept the OTA with a custom recovery installed. I tried doing the OTA and it simply rebooted into TWRP. I tried installing it from there and it kept failing. So I think you do have to re-lock, RUU, then update, then reroot. That's the path I took.
Or do what everyone else is suggesting and flash what the devs made.
Hey guys,
So as the thread title states, I have a rooted DNA with an unlocked bootloader and now S-OFF. I'm wholly new to this whole "forcing" of an OTA upon me (by Verizon?)...so I don't know what the best course of action is. I've already flashed the radio from the OTA and I'm just waiting for an attractive custom ROM to come out before flashing one. In the meantime, what should I do? I saw this thread:
(Mod)[2.15.13] Stop/Remove Verizon OTA V2 2.04.605.2 710RD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149417)
Idk...I'll do it if I have to...it just seems a bit drastic in what it removes. Is there a safe way to update my firmware/kernel to that of the OTA while keeping my unlocked bootloader/root/s-off? I'm used to Nexus devices so this is all very strange to me...any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
mtmjr90 said:
Hey guys,
So as the thread title states, I have a rooted DNA with an unlocked bootloader and now S-OFF. I'm wholly new to this whole "forcing" of an OTA upon me (by Verizon?)...so I don't know what the best course of action is. I've already flashed the radio from the OTA and I'm just waiting for an attractive custom ROM to come out before flashing one. In the meantime, what should I do? I saw this thread:
(Mod)[2.15.13] Stop/Remove Verizon OTA V2 2.04.605.2 710RD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149417)
Idk...I'll do it if I have to...it just seems a bit drastic in what it removes. Is there a safe way to update my firmware/kernel to that of the OTA while keeping my unlocked bootloader/root/s-off? I'm used to Nexus devices so this is all very strange to me...any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Would like to know what to do - I postponed my update to tomorrow, so if no one replies to this thread I am going to follow the other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993
According to jcase beaups and Dr_drache and zifnab its OK to take the ota with s-off
And then I'm telling you to do it at your own risk
The OTA from what I've seen (and experienced) does not lock the bootloader and also shouldn't affect the s-off according to those guys
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.torrented said:
According to jcase beaups and Dr_drache and zifnab its OK to take the ota with s-off
And then I'm telling you to do it at your own risk
The OTA from what I've seen (and experienced) does not lock the bootloader and also shouldn't affect the s-off according to those guys
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Yes, but I think you must be on stock rom and stock recovery. I'm on stock rom but not stock recovery. Can anyone confirm if the steps would be (for someone on stock rom, TWRP, rooted, unlocked, S-OFF):
1. Flash stock recovery
2. Update OTA
3. Flash back TWRP
Or do we need to unlock again between steps 2 and 3 or take any other steps? Or is there a flashable OTA zipped up that will update everything? I don't mind waiting by the way. Not in a huge hurry... Thanks in advance, you guys are awesome.
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Yes, but I think you must be on stock rom and stock recovery. I'm on stock rom but not stock recovery. Can anyone confirm if the steps would be (for someone on stock rom, TWRP, rooted, unlocked, S-OFF):
1. Flash stock recovery
2. Update OTA
3. Flash back TWRP
Or do we need to unlock again between steps 2 and 3 or take any other steps? Or is there a flashable OTA zipped up that will update everything? I don't mind waiting by the way. Not in a huge hurry... Thanks in advance, you guys are awesome.
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should work with stock recovery (you might need the stock kernel too not sure)
If you flash the whole OTA package you'll also need /system to be mostly stock, along with stock recovery and kernel.
Or, you could try what I did and download the OTA from the dev section, remove /system, /boot (kernel), and /recovery updates from it and flash the new zip from RUU mode (fastboot oem rebootRUU). However, this is somewhat involved and not user friendly. Also, if you do this, when you flash it it usually says to "flush the update again", in which case you simply run the fastboot flash zip [file] again (it *might* result in a brick if not done correctly).
Better yet, chances are a dev will put together a firmware package which can be easily flashed with a guide on how to do it. If you aren't confident about flashing the firmware, its best to wait for something like this.
Hm...okay...if I just wait until the day I "deferred" the OTA until, will I be able to defer again (and again, and again, etc)? If so, I can just keep doing that until there's a safe way to flash either the update itself or a custom ROM that interests me.
I just want to add that this whole situation is absurd.
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Hm...okay...if I just wait until the day I "deferred" the OTA until, will I be able to defer again (and again, and again, etc)? If so, I can just keep doing that until there's a safe way to flash either the update itself or a custom ROM that interests me.
I just want to add that this whole situation is absurd.
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Go to the droid original dev thread and get the notification remover that justin (nitsuj) posted. Dl and flash it via recovery and you won't have to worry about deferring anymore.