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Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
More often than not custom ROM's offer much better battery life and are faster and have many many added features which stock ROM's do not have, also most custom ROM's will not have Samsung bloatware in them which again will save you much battery,you can if you wish apply some themes on custom ROM's,the list is endless.
kingoddball said:
Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
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How's it going? I was on the N900 as well (still use it as my music player) and have recently moved on to the SGS2. speed wise it is miles apart! even thouse the Maemo repos have excellent apps, you do notice the lack of commercial apps for Maemo when using Android
i'm not sure if i have all the answers you require... a simple way to compare custom and regular ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
Rooting your SGS2 isnt as easy as typing "root" on the N900... you'll have to use CF Root with CWM (i think):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and a list of useful Root/ROM links at Android Forums:
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-...guide-updated-12-00-pm-bst-jul-03-2011-a.html
i hope this helps
Thank you both. I'm not really a commercial app/program person.
I'm an active open source user. I love to modify and help with programs. I don't really like apple style control over programs.
I'm going to check those links. Thanks!
I hope I can try bring some of the work I made for Maemo over to android.
Most (90%) is terminal based, seems like droid users love the GUI stuff. Hehehe!
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
kingoddball said:
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
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nope, in general this doesn't exist. you have a linux kernel with busybox (assuming you install this along with su), but afaik, that is the limit of what you might expect from a distro. All the apps are running in the android environment, unless you wanted to chroot into something like ubuntu. Whilst I suspect there are some distros that are close to running on an android phone (or netbook, like the ac100) you're no longer running android then.
Try
SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android) as a terminal emulator (shell python etc) and it is fully open source.
ithehappy said:
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
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so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
boondoc said:
so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
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You answered by yourself.
That's what I meant anyway.
Regards.
there wasn't a question at hand to be answered...
Bit like why do people buy different cars .
Custom rom may add something or remove something from the phone is the basics .
jje
I found from flashing HTC Desire, that the cries of better battery life and performance on custom ROM's were generally over exaggeration or complete nonsense, as I tried loads of custom roms and the battery and performance remained the same throughout.
For this phone, my battery life is awesome anyway, and performance is awesome also. I also seem to be pretty much bug free, also
As for the technical questions and what not in this thread it's also gone over my head lol!
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
You can just install 'Advanced Power Menu' for Reboot feature on a Stock ROM.
Altimas said:
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
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I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
.Arkham said:
I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
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Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
jje
JJEgan said:
Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
The only real alternative ROM is Cyanogenmod anyway. Any other rom is just some settings changed with notepad and some icons changed with photoshop.
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
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Yeah you wont lose a thing, just gives you a chance to add more try leomars revolution rom, it got its own kitchen apo in market so you can install tweaks and themes from the app !
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You use custom roms if you think your cellphone isn't amazingly fast enough or if you think four buttons at the lower panel is to iPhone-ish. I personally love Samsung bloatware...
I know everyone says to flash them all and find out what you like but i have some questions...i know the main difference is the UI between them all but what about the things in the background?.....
Performance?
Scripts?
Battery Life?
Features?
Options?
Customization?
Camera/camcorder function (interface/hd video)?
Thanks guys!
viskey said:
I know everyone says to flash them all and find out what you like but i have some questions...i know the main difference is the UI between them all but what about the things in the background?.....
Performance?
Scripts?
Battery Life?
Features?
Options?
Customization?
Camera/camcorder function (interface/hd video)?
Thanks guys!
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I am not trying to come off as a **** so sorry if it seems like that.
its just that for someone to actually answer every one of those questions in depth and compare EACH of our available roms will take a LOT of time for something that can be found out fairly quickly as u said "just flash and try"...
A nandroid before starting will make checking them all out less hasseling if u don't.enjoy them...
But u could also just download the roms and use something like root explorer to go thru the system apps and check system/etc/init.d to see scripts being included and find out pretty much everything u want to know(except battery life...which.is subjective anyways depending on your personal usage preferences making it hard for anyone to really say which has "better" battery....not like we have custom kernels to go with the roms to improve battery/performance so there's only so much we can squeeze out of it)
I would love to sit here and explain the differences between roms on each thing.u ask but the.post would probably be about 10x as long as this one is
What I CAN say about all your questions is I feel like ALL our roms show a nice improvement over the stock equivalent
Thanks! I've been reading a bit on all of them but all I really found was UI differences. That's why I posed the question about behind the scenes. Thanks for the info though.
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And thank YOU for not taking offense
I wish I COULD answer all of those. Lol
But as I'm sure you know each rom has its benefits with the "behind the scenes" scripts/tweaks and such.
the thing about each.of those tweaks is that the dev who put them into their rom as they saw fit because they feel those are the mods that make the most of their rom.
And then on top of that we have a few mods/tweaks we can make (like build.prop edits or tweak those scripts) as WE feel benefits each of us depending on our usage and what we looking.for.
I tend to try and.keep the tweaks the dev instituted tho and altering then slightly sometimes rather than going and say, flashing speedy scripts to replace them. Sure they might benefit some but most of the tweaks in those scripts have usually been implemented somewhere by the dev and.if not then they felt it wasn't really needed to make the rom better. That's just my opinion tho. Some people swear by using certain tweaks across all roms and that's just fine also.
The BEST part about.all of this is that at least we can experiment somewhat to find what we like
now just imagine what would be available to us if we had unlocked bootloader. This would be considered probably THE BEST 3g phone available. But until then we are stuck wondering if we will be.locked in a cage forever. But at least we have.some.nice roms and stuff to mess with
I will say that I really do enjoy Eclipse 1.2. Battery life is alright, which may just be something that is a user or, I D 10 T error. FOr me it has been a learning experience having come from a DX, which apparently is way different haha.
After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
Now, my first instinct is to grab the sucker, root it, put CyanogenMOD on it. But, that is the "hacker" in me talking.
I don't want to "ruin" her experience. So, do I leave the phone "as is" with the TouchWiz on it? Do I install a custom ROM?
I know ZERO about the phone as I've only purchased Nexus devices for myself (Yes, I have a N4 - complete with broken glass back already).
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
Same with my other half, I ended up leaving Touchwiz on it as everything else was too difficult for her and I suppose Touchwiz is simple, isn't it?
Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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She knows nothing about that... remember she is coming from an iPhone. So iPhone users aren't really as technical / geeky as us Android users are. :good:
I am going to have to root it though. I just realized that Google Wallet is not allowed to be installed on the device. She REALLY wants that. So a "root" is a definite now at this point.
UrbanDrawer said:
Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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I'd say go with the Sammy-based ROMs (the ones in the regular development section) so it has all the TW features, but put Domination theme on it to give it an AOSP look, as I hate the TW design. You can try null rom, it has domination included. Also check out JKay framework in original development and see if you want to use that as well, it's included in the null rom too.
dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
gchindi said:
dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
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You can have UltimaROM. It is a Sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 3 months.
thekoRngear said:
You can have UltimaROM. It is a sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 4 months.
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Ultimarom is sammy or aosp ?
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sammy
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sammy
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Official XXELLA 4.1.2 Jellybean.
Jelly Bean Domination - True AOSP style
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i thought ... so is just ... style
Girls like simple stock, but root and a decent kernel will help her (no ads etc and better sound/performance)
I have a N7 and love it. For the S3, try the most popular rom with lots of support and gui installer (omega v37) to start with. It has lots of different themes to try from the kitchen as well as mods etc. It's very stable. I use the boeffla kernel, close to stock, fantastic sound enhancements, she'll love it... Don't forget to remove the bloat!
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usafle said:
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
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The moment you root it, thr device status will change to "modified" n from that moment you wont get any official updates, you have to rely on XDA, n must say XDA is not doing bad for updates...
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usafle said:
After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
....I don't want to "ruin" her experience. ....
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
I would suggest keeping it stock so it has all the features but putting nova launcher on to keep it a consistent user experience with her nexus 7.
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spamtrash said:
As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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When he gets it back, though, it'll be obvious it's been modified and the guy won't get any more support. The phone will probably behave differently too.
Cyanogenmod might be a little too intimate for an android virgin, stick to only touchwiz.
And getting the xella kernel is recommended to be on the safe-er side of the sudden death bug (or any other kernel with the bug fix).
You my friend, have issues! LOL
spamtrash said:
As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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I recommend the crDroid rom. This one has a lot of options to choose, so you can install only what you need.
Hi guys,
Just wanted to make sure i am not wrong, after playing with Launcher on my SGS 3 i came to the conclusion that it's just another Launcher.
I was expecting it to change all the phones themes including dial phone book and so forth, it was a big disappointment especially after waiting 7 days for it to open for the first time.
am i wrong, or what ?
thanks
predatorftp said:
Hi guys,
Just wanted to make sure i am not wrong, after playing with Launcher on my SGS 3 i came to the conclusion that it's just another Launcher.
I was expecting it to change all the phones themes including dial phone book and so forth, it was a big disappointment especially after waiting 7 days for it to open for the first time.
am i wrong, or what ?
thanks
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This is your opinion!
But let's be honest to get your hopes up that high to think an app that don't need root permission can change the look/theme of your whole phone. I think that's the disappointing thing.
If you don't like why not just uninstall job done.
I don't get the point in putting down the app due to your own ignorance. I mean why not take your know how and be the creator of an app that does all that you want it to without root. What's that you can't! That right to do all the things you want you would need root.
I'm sick of seeing posts like this no one say you have to use this or any other app.
Get over it! Uninstall! And walk away!
JOB DONE❇
all the best
Moley
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I agree.
It can't even make coffee!
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Sounds like the OP just didn't read the description of what Themer is before installing it.
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chrisrozon said:
Sounds like the OP just didn't read the description of what Themer is before installing it.
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yep sounds like it
dj_mol3y_x8 said:
This is your opinion!
But let's be honest to get your hopes up that high to think an app that don't need root permission can change the look/theme of your whole phone. I think that's the disappointing thing.
If you don't like why not just uninstall job done.
I don't get the point in putting down the app due to your own ignorance. I mean why not take your know how and be the creator of an app that does all that you want it to without root. What's that you can't! That right to do all the things you want you would need root.
I'm sick of seeing posts like this no one say you have to use this or any other app.
Get over it! Uninstall! And walk away!
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Calm down. There's no need to get upset over a simple question. OP obviously hadn't understood what the app was for. You could have just answered him politely or ignored the thread. He was only asking a question.
predatorftp said:
Hi guys,
Just wanted to make sure i am not wrong, after playing with Launcher on my SGS 3 i came to the conclusion that it's just another Launcher.
I was expecting it to change all the phones themes including dial phone book and so forth, it was a big disappointment especially after waiting 7 days for it to open for the first time.
am i wrong, or what ?
thanks
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Such an app would require root. Seeing as probably a minority root their phones and mess around with it, I don't think it would be with MyColourScreen's time to produce such an app if they wanted to theme everything. Too much code, too many zips to flash, too much theming in general and whatnot.
This app is good for people that want a good luck on their phone. That being said, half the themes on the themer catalogue looks like crap. A lot of it isn't really special in too many ways. Most of them are just cheap with wallpaper doing too much of the work and not the actual feeling of cleanliness. I also don't find these themes to be functional at all in anyway but you either have simplicity or functionality. It's pretty difficult to have both and that, my friends, is why Aviate launcher exists. :good:
Just my 2 cents.
OP: if you want to try the launcher but don't have it currently installed, I can give you a code for it. PM me if you want it. :highfive:
predatorftp said:
Hi guys,
Just wanted to make sure i am not wrong, after playing with Launcher on my SGS 3 i came to the conclusion that it's just another Launcher.
I was expecting it to change all the phones themes including dial phone book and so forth, it was a big disappointment especially after waiting 7 days for it to open for the first time.
am i wrong, or what ?
thanks
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I can understand where you are coming from, I was let down as well...not so much of the things you are opinionating about. What you are asking will require root It is impossible to change dialers and such without a root. Even with root, will be hard to do unless you are running themer found on CM/AOkP and things of that nature.
I personally expected better themes...I knew themer limitation, just didn't think it will be so limited in themes. But hey, it is just beta
im actually looking forward to the time when "My Colorscreen" type themes are available on Themer. Currently everything is a bit simple - not really my taste. I check new themes every few days and a bit underwhelmed.
Again - it is a beta.
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im actually looking forward to the time when "My Colorscreen" type themes are available on Themer. Currently everything is a bit simple - not really my taste. I check new themes every few days and a bit underwhelmed.
Again - it is a beta.
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I totally agree
themer actually is good for those looking for laucher with simplicity in mind. I do enjoyed changing the themes everyday if i feel bored. The customization options have been added from times to time. Since this is BETA, it will changes periodically. Nothing much should you expected from the BETA release. If it's doesn't suit you then go for others final release
I see that there's some fighting here... I'll tell my opinion about Themer then hehe...
It's just another launcher? Yes it is! However it's an innovative, yet simple, launcher, which requires you one click to have a completely reborn homescreen. I downloaded it with higher expectations, so indeed I got disappointed, but I believe with more time more themes will come and one will really attend my necessities. Also I really like to customize my things, so using Themer limited it, as I wasn't able to change anything after installed the theme, all I could do was select a new one.
I have a fully customized 5 screen HS on my S4 using NOVA, why did I do this? Simple: I enjoy doing this. Although I know that there are many people out there who says Android is difficult to use/manage, what I saw is that most of them get "scared" of the homescreen, Themer is a great option for those people, click here and there, done it's simple and the way I can use without any problems .
I still see a WIP though, I am not following it too much to tell further, but I imagine it's not complete, one thing that made me stop using a theme that I liked (other than I preferring my current NOVA customization) was that when you try sliding to the extreme while on the last page will happen just like a normal launcher, the same with the app drawer, it's not customized like it is in the homescreen. I used plenty themes, they were all beautifully designed, but this app drawer thing got me in my nerves , sure, I have the same app drawer in my NOVA Launcher, but I customized my homescreen in a way that it still fits!
My 2¢ to this discussion...
And @predatorftp I'll speak again what everyone already said: What you're wanting requires root access and I think the developer isn't interested in losing a huge part of it's users because of it. Maybe someday they can add a special root feature, but for now I believe they are still busy with the developing of app basis.
tl;dr:
Pros:
Simple and beautiful, anyone can use.
Cons:
Limited functionality, themes "half-baked".
Opinion:
I prefer customizing, so I go for customizable launcher for sure.
The app description on Google clearly states what the app is...
As that threads like this will only bring flaming
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I'm coming from a S3 and had MOAR Rom on it and loved that Rom. I want to root my note 3 but the main reasons I want to are for a notification bar with white icons and pull down toggles. And for the rest of the Rom to be blacked out or monotone as possible. Any roms that come close?
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Well, most people will tell you to... Wait for it...
Look through the ROMs we have!
Most have screen shots, and several have themes you can flash to change those sort of things. And while I don't know much about it, the exposed framework thing allows you to do that, if I'm correct? Micmars?
I believe as well that minim maximus has a blacked out theme for that...
Good luck!
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Wanam xposed module for the Xposed framework will let you theme pretty much every aspect of your framework....statusbar icons, pulldown toggles, etc. For example, I changed mine to ICS-ish blue
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kingdazy said:
Well, most people will tell you to... Wait for it...
Looking through the ROMs we have! Most have screen shots, and several have themes you can flash to change those sort of things. And while I don't know much about it, the exposed framework thing allows you to do that, if I'm correct? Micmars?
I believe as well that minim maximus has a blacked out theme for that...
Good luck!
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You had to bait me @kingdazy with this wicked good question from @mainstang.
mainstang said:
I'm coming from a S3 and had MOAR Rom on it and loved that Rom. I want to root my note 3 but the main reasons I want to are for a notification bar with white icons and pull down toggles. And for the rest of the Rom to be blacked out or monotone as possible. Any roms that come close?
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For this I'll assume that you've tripped Knox. Also, though these are limned in a discrete manner, they have commonalities that break over each. Still, there is sufficient differentiation to attempt to categorize. Furthermore, while this is an attempt to observe, remember that for the vast majority of devs, they work tirelessly for your benefit. Thank often, show respect, and try to avoid dev fanboy traps. These guys are doing a ton for little reward beyond conquering. They all deserve respect.
So...here is my view of the matter, which should be taken with a heavy dose of reticence, inasmuch as it's my opinion, which is convenient, since I'm also an a-hole...
TouchWiz...
1. Heavily Themed Roms: sort of an all-inclusive setup, the rom cook is perhaps gifted at development, theming, or both, but none is a one-dev show, as they are borrowing (hopefully the best) of what others have wrought. User experience is typically excellent, but expect updates, especially if the rom has themed apps that update often. These needn't be viewed as an all-or-nothing endeavor, but they were perhaps designed with that goal in mind. There are true graphic artists out there; just look at the work they do to make all of those images work in concert so that your phone will never be defiled by Sammy's disgusting color palette. And the images are only part of the story. Finding the code that allows for your text to appear nicely in every place on the phone is a daunting task. Battery life and performance can be awesome. Most everything works perfectly.
2. Performance Centric Roms: The dev is making something with performance in mind, and typically is less concerned about theming and more focused on performance and sometimes incredibly creative features. You'll get snappy performance, great battery life, and typically a smaller footprint. As to theming, you can do that post hoc, by grabbing a bit of what you like, adding inverted apps (camblue, Gunthermic, Kryten2k35, Team BlackOut, many others, and most of these are TBO members anyway), and flashing things like Blue X, Black Chrome, &c. In general you'll get fewer updates, but when they arrive, it is more often adding cool new stuff as opposed to an updated themed app.
3. Stock Rooted Rom: Whether DeOdex or Odex, grab the entire build and make whatcha want. Freeze apps, replace them, add inverted apps, boot animations, sound mods...hell, if you're feeling adventurous, push framework-res.apk and SystemUI.apk from any rom hewn from the same stuff (MJ4) to the stock rom and you have a new rom just for you. Caution on the former file, push it from recovery, reset permissions on first boot.
4. Additional Tools: kernels, Xposed modules, sound mods, just endless choices. Rip it to the ti+s.
AOSP roms...
1. Official Nightlies: Pure KitKat love, fast, lean, and some may label them bug-laden to some extent (oftentimes unfairly, since by definition, an AOSP rom just isn't designed to be a TouchWiz copycat). Use if ya dig it.
2. AOSP Offshoots: There are at least a few. They all take a bit of this and that, some eye-popping cool going on, just select your brand of cool before you choose.
A final word, this is a relatively new device just taking hold, and we already have a strong variety of choices. None is best, but one, I bet, is right for you.
Hope this helps.
Happy flashing!
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micmars you are everywhere. Thank you so much for the detailed response. I haven't rooted yet. I know I have asked a ton of questions already. You and kingdazy have came quickly with answers. Just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row for a solid reason to root.
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mainstang said:
micmars you are everywhere. Thank you so much for the detailed response. I haven't rooted yet. I know I have asked a ton of questions already. You and kingdazy have came quickly with answers. Just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row for a solid reason to root.
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Hope you make an informed decision. However, I do wish to see this glitter pony.
Share, ya flippin miser.
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micmars said:
So...here is my view of the matter, which should be taken with a heavy dose of reticence, inasmuch as it's my opinion, which is convenient, since I'm also an a-hole..
A final word, this is a relatively new device just taking hold, and we already have a strong variety of choices. None is best, but one, I bet, is right for you.
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holy crap @micmars, you're XDAs poet laureate. you make make my own not inconsiderable skills of rhetoric and oratory pale.
*slow clap*
jellybomb ROM is there any way to change the function of the home button? i get the 4 in 1 menu but i would like the recent app drawer..thank you in advance(noob here sorry)
malia420a said:
jellybomb ROM is there any way to change the function of the home button? i get the 4 in 1 menu but i would like the recent app drawer..thank you in advance(noob here sorry)
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Kinda wrong place to post, but who cares? You asked, here's your answer...
Wanam Xposed, go to system, last cluster under the heading "buttons" will get ya there.
As an aside, Wanam has updated a ton in the last few days. Your settings will maintain, just letting you know.
PS, everybody is a noob if you dial in the right scenario. I think that it's always OK to ask first instead of forging ahead without knowing what to expect (which even the most experienced do, and why I mentioned the bit about all being noobs).
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kingdazy said:
holy crap @micmars, you're XDAs poet laureate. you make make my own not inconsiderable skills of rhetoric and oratory pale.
*slow clap*
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Way too kind my friend. I am a bit uncomfortable with complements, but I do appreciate yours very much.
I've read your posts, and your writing is skills are outstanding.
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micmars said:
You had to bait me @kingdazy with this wicked good question from @mainstang.
For this I'll assume that you've tripped Knox. Also, though these are limned in a discrete manner, they have commonalities that break over each. Still, there is sufficient differentiation to attempt to categorize. Furthermore, while this is an attempt to observe, remember that for the vast majority of devs, they work tirelessly for your benefit. Thank often, show respect, and try to avoid dev fanboy traps. These guys are doing a ton for little reward beyond conquering. They all deserve respect.
So...here is my view of the matter, which should be taken with a heavy dose of reticence, inasmuch as it's my opinion, which is convenient, since I'm also an a-hole...
TouchWiz...
1. Heavily Themed Roms: sort of an all-inclusive setup, the rom cook is perhaps gifted at development, theming, or both, but none is a one-dev show, as they are borrowing (hopefully the best) of what others have wrought. User experience is typically excellent, but expect updates, especially if the rom has themed apps that update often. These needn't be viewed as an all-or-nothing endeavor, but they were perhaps designed with that goal in mind. There are true graphic artists out there; just look at the work they do to make all of those images work in concert so that your phone will never be defiled by Sammy's disgusting color palette. And the images are only part of the story. Finding the code that allows for your text to appear nicely in every place on the phone is a daunting task. Battery life and performance can be awesome. Most everything works perfectly.
2. Performance Centric Roms: The dev is making something with performance in mind, and typically is less concerned about theming and more focused on performance and sometimes incredibly creative features. You'll get snappy performance, great battery life, and typically a smaller footprint. As to theming, you can do that post hoc, by grabbing a bit of what you like, adding inverted apps (camblue, Gunthermic, Kryten2k35, Team BlackOut, many others, and most of these are TBO members anyway), and flashing things like Blue X, Black Chrome, &c. In general you'll get fewer updates, but when they arrive, it is more often adding cool new stuff as opposed to an updated themed app.
3. Stock Rooted Rom: Whether DeOdex or Odex, grab the entire build and make whatcha want. Freeze apps, replace them, add inverted apps, boot animations, sound mods...hell, if you're feeling adventurous, push framework-res.apk and SystemUI.apk from any rom hewn from the same stuff (MJ4) to the stock rom and you have a new rom just for you. Caution on the former file, push it from recovery, reset permissions on first boot.
4. Additional Tools: kernels, Xposed modules, sound mods, just endless choices. Rip it to the ti+s.
AOSP roms...
1. Official Nightlies: Pure KitKat love, fast, lean, and some may label them bug-laden to some extent (oftentimes unfairly, since by definition, an AOSP rom just isn't designed to be a TouchWiz copycat). Use if ya dig it.
2. AOSP Offshoots: There are at least a few. They all take a bit of this and that, some eye-popping cool going on, just select your brand of cool before you choose.
A final word, this is a relatively new device just taking hold, and we already have a strong variety of choices. None is best, but one, I bet, is right for you.
Hope this helps.
Happy flashing!
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Wow! You should write a book bro.. your awesome! Lol
ImEVO said:
Wow! You should write a book bro.. your awesome! Lol
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I'm on it. You quoted the first chapter, which is called "How to Avoid All Human Contact and Have a Blast While Doing It."
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micmars said:
I'm on it. You quoted the first chapter, which is called "How to Avoid All Human Contact and Have a Blast While Doing It."
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Lol