So, i'm still s-on and want to switch from twrp to 4 ext I have a couple of questions. Oviously 4 ext won't recognize my image from twrp so I assume I need to flash back to stock, make a nandroid and then install 4ext. Secondly when i install 4 ext via hansoons all in one tool, will it automatically become the default when i boot to recovery? Lastly, I've read over time about an inability to perm root. with s on.are there any workarounds? I thought with hansoon's toollkit that you achieved perm root even s on. I'm essentially an a.d.d. newb so I've tried to read as much as possible all while not really finding what I'm looking for
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So, i'm still s-on and want to switch from twrp to 4 ext I have a couple of questions. Oviously 4 ext won't recognize my image from twrp so I assume I need to flash back to stock, make a nandroid and then install 4ext. Secondly when i install 4 ext via hansoons all in one tool, will it automatically become the default when i boot to recovery? Lastly, I've read over time about an inability to perm root. with s on.are there any workarounds? I thought with hansoon's toollkit that you achieved perm root even s on. I'm essentially an a.d.d. newb so I've tried to read as much as possible all while not really finding what I'm looking for
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Just flash 4ext from bootloader and your good to have root permission
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jsteve01 said:
So, i'm still s-on and want to switch from twrp to 4 ext I have a couple of questions. Oviously 4 ext won't recognize my image from twrp so I assume I need to flash back to stock, make a nandroid and then install 4ext. Secondly when i install 4 ext via hansoons all in one tool, will it automatically become the default when i boot to recovery? Lastly, I've read over time about an inability to perm root. with s on.are there any workarounds? I thought with hansoon's toollkit that you achieved perm root even s on. I'm essentially an a.d.d. newb so I've tried to read as much as possible all while not really finding what I'm looking for
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If you have twrp (or any other custom recovery), then that means your bootloader is unlocked.
If your bootloader is unlocked then you can root your phone (yes even with s-on).
What do you mean will it automatically become the default recovery? When you flash a recovery it will completely replace your old one.
Easiest way to get 4ext on your phone, go to 4 ext.net and download recovery updater (free) or on the play store you can get the paid app called recovery control.
Easy as that
many thanks
Much appreciated guys. I flashed 4ext and have been messing with different roms the past couple of days. Played with super saiyan because I saw an old review on youtube that I liked then went to speed rom. oddly though haven't noticed any improvement in battery life even after applying energy tweaks. Looking at Viper now.
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so I rooted my TB using super one click root. I restarted my phone and saw the superuser app in my drawer so to make sure I was rooted I downloaded titanium back and see if it gave me root access and I was able to gain root access to the app. So my next thing was to get Rom manager I downloaded that it asked for my root access I press allowed and I was able to use the app, I click flash clockword recovery and it successfully installed, so now I was going to download a Rom to my phone well i had a rom already. On my SD card so from Rom manager it says install Rom from SD card I click that found the Rom on my SD card checked off the wipe and back up and ok. Phone turns off and boot up on hboot on bootloader, so it didn't work I tried to go back in Rom manager click reboot in recovery and the phone shuts off and boot back into hboot bootloader. Now keep in mind I am rooted but I can't access the recovery I keep getting sent to hboot,
Can you get to CWR manually from the hboot menu? If not (and you have the latest RomManager and recovery), your recovery didn't flash. Erase and reflash it.
I was not aware that super one click worked on the tbolt. and even if it did you cant flash a custom rom with s-on. If i were you i would download root checker from the market , it will tell you if you are rooted correctly which i dought you are....
I don't think super1click does work on the tbolt. I just assumed he meant one of the other one-clicks like Easyroot or something. I didn't pay much attention to it because he claims he has SU and TiBu works.
Should be one of these:
RomManager needs updating.
Recovery needs reflashing/updating.
Hey guys thx for the replies well your right in the bootloaded or Hboot mode it does say S-on, and for some reason Super one Click work, cuz i tried to use the TB auto root click but it went half through the process as it was pushing the files, and it got stuck for like 20 mins didnt do anything, so i unhooked it and closed eveyrthing out and then tried the super one click and it did its process and a window pop up saying device rooted. so i restarted the phone and saw the superuser and to make sure i was rooted, i tried the Titanium back up, and was able to back up my apps, and then i got the wireless tether app and tried to used that and that work showing i had superuser permission. but the rom manager isnt working im able to open the app look at the rom it has on rom manager but when i go to flash rom from sd card it reboots in Hboot, with the S-on. i tried to go to recovery i press recovery and it boot back up in Hboot, so is there any suggestion should i unroot and use another method to root so that i can be able to get into clockword recovery.
You can't flash clockwork recovery with s-on.
Go here for s-off
http://revolutionary.io
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So is it ok to do that revolutionary process with my TB in the condition its in (Root with S-on) or should i flash the MR2 file to restore it back to it factory state and then do the revolutionary process
I would say you are good to go ahead. Just jump right in. You are basically stock except that you can use root access apps.
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Once you get S-Off, the whole point of rooting opens up to you. Great ROMs and no carrier bloat.
I have been an avid Android user for a few years now. I had an ATT Captivate which had a huge dev following. It was so easy to flash and switch ROMs on a whim.
This is my first HTC phone and over the weekend I went through the steps to unlock the bootloader then root it. To get it to root I had to load the Amon RA recovery and then install su and superuser. It worked and it appears I have root now. But I am confused what H-Boot, fastboot, etc are?? I'm used to the phone being able to boot right into recovery and then go through the clockworkmod options while in recovery, making it so easy to load a new ROM in a zip.
Is there anywhere I can read to learn more about the HTC bootloader, H-BOOT, fastboot, etc? It seems to be a lot more complicated than the OG Droid and my Galaxy S.
Thanks.
derek4484 said:
I have been an avid Android user for a few years now. I had an ATT Captivate which had a huge dev following. It was so easy to flash and switch ROMs on a whim.
This is my first HTC phone and over the weekend I went through the steps to unlock the bootloader then root it. To get it to root I had to load the Amon RA recovery and then install su and superuser. It worked and it appears I have root now. But I am confused what H-Boot, fastboot, etc are?? I'm used to the phone being able to boot right into recovery and then go through the clockworkmod options while in recovery, making it so easy to load a new ROM in a zip.
Is there anywhere I can read to learn more about the HTC bootloader, H-BOOT, fastboot, etc? It seems to be a lot more complicated than the OG Droid and my Galaxy S.
Thanks.
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It's actually not all that bad. The HTC bootloader(H-BOOT) is a locked up tighter than fort knox beast that doesn't want to let us do what we want to.. But for good reason. The HTC bootloader as you already know can be unlocked via HTCDev. This allows us to use custom ROMs, recovery, and kernels but keeps us from the radio. It also forces us to manually update the kernel with each ROM. Some developers have bundled a method of flashing the kernel within the ROM but it's from dev to dev/ROM to ROM.
Fastboot is a method to allow flashing of filesystems over USB. For instance when you flashed Amon-Ra you used a command "fastboot flash recovery xxxx.img" This tells the command to flash the recovery partition with xxxx.img.
Flashing via ClockWorkMod carries the same issue as described above. You either have to manually flash the kernel or the dev has to package the ROM to include automatic flashing. One of the caveats to automatic flashing is that it will update a version in your firmware(mainver) and potentially create issues. For this reason only, I suggest getting very comfortable with manually flashing a kernel vs the automated method.
If you have other questions feel free to ask. Or check out some of the wiki's out there like this one: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Folks,
I'm planning on picking up a Rezound this coming Friday, but before I do I want to make sure that there is reputable root out on this device. I've been reading through the threads and all I see is a temp root. First, which root have people used and recommend? What I think a temp root means is that simply I can root it, but if Verizon sends an OTA - I'll be unrooted again, is that correct? Also, if I root and load a new ROM I'm assuming that becomes a moot point and then I'm permanently rooted.
I know, newbie questions... sorry.
There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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There is definitely a permanent root method and a good development community for the rezound. I perm rooted my phone the first week I got it and haven't looked back.
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There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
Snuzzo said:
In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
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Yes you can go custom Rom immediately. I never did a nandroid backup. Just unlocked bootloader installed amon ra recovery. Flashed Rom after Rom lol
Just make sure to read thoroughly before flashing. If flashing GB roms most will require you to install the kernel and boot image but will basically be automated. Just nerd to hit the power button in bootloader then follow the steps.
If ICS you MAY need to run the ruu leak or run a patch for older firmware.
Sounds difficult but will make more sense when you are performing the flash.
alright guys so my only rooting/rom changing/whatever experience comes from the Droid 1, which was an extreme breeze to install and get root access easily, well overall super easy to install all you needed well now I'm having trouble with the rezound as it's a little more complicated (for me) anyways here's what I need help with
I unlocked my bootloader following the super noob guide, In the super noob guide the directions say to install the ICS leak 3.11 and then install the All in one HTC rezound tool thing I did all of that and Managed to unlock my bootloader and I am not 100% sure if I instaled the custom recovery but It seems like I did, If AmonRa is the ICSandwichy looking bootloader with the blue letters, IF it is then I did install it then here comes what I need help with, I cant seem to get anything out of clicking the perm root on the extras I am running the program on administrator and also tried it without running in administrator, I tried and tried but I can't seem to get root (checked with app root access and odesn't give me it) I even tried installing it through the options of the clockworkmod thing/Adamnro by clicking on the install su & superuser? option it says it installs it but once I'm checking it doesn't work
I have however not installed any kernels nor roms im still running on the ICS leak from when I unlocked the bootloader, Help me great XDA community
any help will be appreciated
EDIT: I forgot I also run it in debug mode and when I try to get perm root I do it when the phone is on
The easiest way to install super user is through amon ra recovery,I believe it's under advanced or devoloper options.or just flash a rooted custom rom I suggest picking one that includes the boot image that gets flashed in bootloader. The newer roms are mostly set up for s-off only and don't include an easily flashable boot image.
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I had to flash these 2 files in recovery to get root working. You might need to install busy box once booted up but not 100% sure if that was needed.
I could not get root working by using the option in Amon or the tool. Flashing these 2 files was the only way I was able to get root. I was on 3.14 leak though but should be the same for 3.11
If you are still having trouble and you have a windows based system, t wouldn't hurt to give my toolkit a try. It doesnt have the super fancy GUI but it is very functionable. I designed it to help myself when i was a super noob. It goes through the whole process step by step and explains in the simplest terms possible how you should do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571746
just a tip, make sure you have all of the htc drivers when you are doing this and then once you have finished the step telling you to install the recovery, go back into the bootloader by either doing it manually or using my program once your phone is on. (util, then roboot into bootloader) Once you are in the bootloader, see if you can get into the recovery section. If you got in successfully then you should be in a differnet menu, from there go to the development section of amon ra and then select root. Hopwfully you get success but if you did not do the following.
Go to the mounts section of amon ra and then mount the phones usb storage. It should still be plugged in so the device should show up on your computer. Go and download the latest superuser from here:
http://androidsu.com/superuser/
place it in the root of the device storage thats on your computer (the root is the main directory or folder)
then unmount the storage from your phone and go to the flashing section on Amon Ra. From there select the superuser zip folder from the sd card. Flash it and if it still gives you an error i would check your steps or request more help because i cant help you beyond this point.
I hope this walkthrough has helped and good luck on obtaining root. With root you arent limited to anything. If you are feeling good after you get root i would suggest trying to get s-off. To get s-off you have to do hardware tricks not just software tricks, but s-off is much harder and more dangerous. Have fun with your new and hopefully rooted device!
wow after having this post up for a matter of seconds i have a thanks, glad i helped!
thank you very much this worked magically
thank you for your great reply but I tried the above method and it worked beautifully I still checked out and downloaded your tool it is very nice good job on it dude and I got S -off already as well wire trick was tricky as I was trying to use a copper wire and it was workin then I got my old ipod charger cable and cuted it then got mad because I thought it wasn't going to work because they were like tiny wires tied toguether but who knew first try and it worked perfectly...
Ok since I have less than 10 posts I can not post in the area that I would have liked to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559232
I am having the same Issue as badfishie in that I am stuck on the:
Under Test 2:
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (6/120)
FATAL: Download updated package at www.rumrunner.us
After I Downloaded it again a second time, and the DNA version. Yes I tried the first version first, and investigated it.
I have followed GrzlyAdms advice and factory reset my device numerous times.
I even gone so far as to Return my device to factory Sence 5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570548
My bootloader still shows S-OFF from the moonshine that I was successful at applying.
But after the OTA with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper not able to keep root...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241517
I am once again trying to gain root access for my device.
I have:
Made sure usb debugging was on
Made sure verifying apps was off
Made sure fastboot was off
Made sure no lock screen was selected
Made sure to use a USB 2.0 port, and Original USB cord
Made sure adb can see my device
Run soju as Administrator
Drivers installed with Tool kit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219175
AV and firewall disabled
Using Windows 7 x64 and Minimal ADB and Fastboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks!
Mind if I ask why are you trying to unlocked you bootloader and soff or your already soff?
Ok, I'll try to help best I can. Hopefully one of the more experienced folks can chime in too as they'll probably be way more helpful. I've got a couple guesses, but need to know a bit more. Please know that I'm only providing my best guesses as I haven't run into this problem.
What firmware version were you on when you tried rumrunner? It sounds like you already had an unlocked bootloader and s-off... through moonshine. Did you end up with a locked bootloader? If so, how? You mentioned that you went back to sense 5. What method? Did you ruu back to a stock rom or just flash one of the Custom/stock ROMs.
Here is one possible option. I would suggest reading through the thread thoroughly before diving in...
- Go back to 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293919
Then make sure you've taken any OTA updated to get to 3.06.605.4 and you should be able to use rumrunner.
GrzlyAdms said:
Ok, I'll try to help best I can. Hopefully one of the more experienced folks can chime in too as they'll probably be way more helpful. I've got a couple guesses, but need to know a bit more. Please know that I'm only providing my best guesses as I haven't run into this problem.
What firmware version were you on when you tried rumrunner? It sounds like you already had an unlocked bootloader and s-off... through moonshine. Did you end up with a locked bootloader? If so, how? You mentioned that you went back to sense 5. What method? Did you ruu back to a stock rom or just flash one of the Custom/stock ROMs.
Here is one possible option. I would suggest reading through the thread thoroughly before diving in...
- Go back to 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293919
Then make sure you've taken any OTA updated to get to 3.06.605.4 and you should be able to use rumrunner.
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The reason the thing is failing is because he already has a unlocked bootloader with soff. I don't know why he is trying to unlock something that is already unlocked. All he needs to do is download something like superuser or flash a custom rom with root built into it.
thayl0 said:
The reason the thing is failing is because he already has a unlocked bootloader with soff. I don't know why he is trying to unlock something that is already unlocked. All he needs to do is download something like superuser or flash a custom rom with root built into it.
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10-4. That's kinda what I thought too, but figured I'd try to confirm by asking a few questions. I have seen a few people get stuck with s-off but a locked bootloader if they goof up the process trying to go back to 100% stock. Thought I'd ask the questions just in case this is what he did.
Ok, I would like to keep the Stock Android, but would like to have root access.
I an unsure how to gain root access with out turning S-ON.
I could follow that and turn S-ON again,
But if you have another method of gaining ROOT with out flashing a custom ROM,
I would be grateful for your assistance.
Sorry for any confusion on that,
I spent 10hrs trying to figure this out yesterday,
it was necessary to put down and look at another day.
I have tried downloading superuser and supersu from the play store, neither give me access to root
However I have looked on your forums since you suggested simply flashing another rom already with root access - Thanks for that btw
this post shows the full version, but has odex and deodex, well deodex is pulled, may i ask what the difference is?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
I will flash the odex one now and see what happens, thanks again I needed a fresh look at this I guess.
p1droidx said:
I have tried downloading superuser and supersu from the play store, neither give me access to root
However I have looked on your forums since you suggested simply flashing another rom already with root access - Thanks for that btw
this post shows the full version, but has odex and deodex, well deodex is pulled, may i ask what the difference is?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
I will flash the odex one now and see what happens, thanks again I needed a fresh look at this I guess.
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You must already have a superuser app to install one from the play store. Flash a superuser zip from recovery. That will put both the app and the required binaries in place.
Yo this is a random question if I go back to stock 2.06 soff and rooted will rumrunner update me or what?
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You must already have a superuser app to install one from the play store. Flash a superuser zip from recovery. That will put both the app and the required binaries in place.
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Uh ok, let me look for this, maybe you already have a link, if not, I will try and find it, and if I find it I will post it here.
deathrow1992 said:
Yo this is a random question if I go back to stock 2.06 soff and rooted will rumrunner update me or what?
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From what I have learned so far, running rumrunner when you are already S-OFF will net you a FAILED message. if your DNA is already S-OFF then feel free to flash whatever ROM you want.. well sorta, make sure it's for the DNA, and flash at your own risk.
I took the OTA after achieving S-OFF with moonshine and it removed my root access... now I am in this boat where I want to regain root.
I have finally finished downloading the zip from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
But I have no idea how to flash it, step by step instructions would be helpful since this is my first flash and I have yet to figure it out. I have tried fastboot flash zip but that didn't work, and I am unfamilar with this....
The FAQ here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188944
is of no help unfortunately....
I found some Instructions that tell you to boot into recovery, but when I try to boot into recovery all I get is a RED ! and Triangle above a screen. like something went wrong :/
Start by downloading ROM and the patch and copy the file to the SD card’s root in your device.
Reboot your phone into recovery mode. For this, power off your device and restart it keeping the volume down key pressed. Your phone will be booted into bootloader fastboot mode.
In the Recovery mode, use the ‘Power ’key to select and to navigate use the ‘Volume’ keys.
Use ‘backup and restore’ option to create a backup.
Now perform three steps in a row: first wipe data//factory reset, then wipe cache and lastly wipe dalvik cache accessing the advanced menu.
Now install zip from your sdcard, then select ROMs zip file you copied to your phone and choose zip.
Redo it for Patch file once you are done with ROM installation.
At the end, reboot your phone.
Lovely I didn't have a recovery installed, using the tools: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2219175
I installed the TWRP 2.5.0.0 recovery,
THEN I was able to enter recovery and flash the ROM.
WOW what a experience, this has been.
p1droidx said:
I have finally finished downloading the zip from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
But I have no idea how to flash it, step by step instructions would be helpful since this is my first flash and I have yet to figure it out. I have tried fastboot flash zip but that didn't work, and I am unfamilar with this....
The FAQ here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2188944
is of no help unfortunately....
I found some Instructions that tell you to boot into recovery, but when I try to boot into recovery all I get is a RED ! and Triangle above a screen. like something went wrong :/
Start by downloading ROM and the patch and copy the file to the SD card’s root in your device.
Reboot your phone into recovery mode. For this, power off your device and restart it keeping the volume down key pressed. Your phone will be booted into bootloader fastboot mode.
In the Recovery mode, use the ‘Power ’key to select and to navigate use the ‘Volume’ keys.
Use ‘backup and restore’ option to create a backup.
Now perform three steps in a row: first wipe data//factory reset, then wipe cache and lastly wipe dalvik cache accessing the advanced menu.
Now install zip from your sdcard, then select ROMs zip file you copied to your phone and choose zip.
Redo it for Patch file once you are done with ROM installation.
At the end, reboot your phone.
Lovely I didn't have a recovery installed, using the tools: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2219175
I installed the TWRP 2.5.0.0 recovery,
THEN I was able to enter recovery and flash the ROM.
WOW what a experience, this has been.
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well glad you got it sorted out.... it can be quite a lot to take in if you have never done anything like that before. but once you have done it a few times it is much easier to do and remember especially if you run into problems.
cheers
and happy customizing.
deathrow1992 said:
Yo this is a random question if I go back to stock 2.06 soff and rooted will rumrunner update me or what?
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Rumrunner doesn't update nothing. Try asking your question again.
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thayl0 said:
Rumrunner doesn't update nothing. Try asking your question again.
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Sorry I was kind messed up last night today is my bday. what I meant to ask is can I receive the ota update if I go back to stock soff rooted 2.06 and if not what do I have to do to get it
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deathrow1992 said:
Sorry I was kind messed up last night today is my bday. what I meant to ask is can I receive the ota update if I go back to stock soff rooted 2.06 and if not what do I have to do to get it
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if you want the 3.06.605.4 update (aka 4.2.2) and you are already s-off - and want STOCK no root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570548
if you want root to go with that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
if you are stock 2.06 you can take the OTA even if you are s-off, but if you have root, you will loose root taking the ota.
p1droidx said:
if you want the 3.06.605.4 update (aka 4.2.2) and you are already s-off - and want STOCK no root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570548
if you want root to go with that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560010
if you are stock 2.06 you can take the OTA even if you are s-off, but if you have root, you will loose root taking the ota.
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So will the second link you have me work even if I'm on a 2.06 custom Rom? Thanks for the help by the way
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deathrow1992 said:
So will the second link you have me work even if I'm on a 2.06 custom Rom? Thanks for the help by the way
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if you want to revert to stock, since i didn't flash the second till i flashed the first, i would suggest that you do that, if you want to go with another custom rom, follow it's instructions, if it asks for a specific starting point, aka stock 4.2.2 then flash the first one then flash the custom one.