Hi Guys
I am trying to decide on switching from my 64GB 3G iPad 1 to a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and was hoping you could give me some feedback?
Basically, I have been something of an Apple user for the last few years, but have recently gotten an SGS2 which I just love....way more than my iPhone 4S!
As the iPad 1 is now a little old, and quite a heavy beast, I am thinking of going for a 10.1 instead. I can only really afford a 16GB one (with 3G), so would plan to get a SD card adapter for playing bigger files.
I have seen some threads on this from a good few months ago, so was hoping that with firmware tweaks, etc, there may be more updated views out there?
Any thoughts you guys have would be great!
Cheers
When I first got my Tab 10.1, I was a little dispointed. It was laggy and kinda slow. I played with my gf's pad2 before i got the tab (wich i got from my gf). And i notice that the pad was much more "smoother".
After a few weeks, i decided to root and flash a costume rom, best thing ever.
Now the tab is more faster and "smoother" than the ipad2.
There is more to the tab then the ipad. More customize etc.
So if you consider a tab, you might want to flash a costume rom to get a better experience.
Im using Task650 6.2 rom with pershoot kernel (wich is overclockable)
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
ole12 said:
When I first got my Tab 10.1, I was a little dispointed. It was laggy and kinda slow. I played with my gf's pad2 before i got the tab (wich i got from my gf). And i notice that the pad was much more "smoother".
After a few weeks, i decided to root and flash a costume rom, best thing ever.
Now the tab is more faster and "smoother" than the ipad2.
There is more to the tab then the ipad. More customize etc.
So if you consider a tab, you might want to flash a costume rom to get a better experience.
Im using Task650 6.2 rom with pershoot kernel (wich is overclockable)
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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Hi
Thanks for that - really helpful of you! It seems that it may be as customisable as the SGS2, which would be a cool thing!
Cheers
tjjpowles said:
I can only really afford a 16GB one (with 3G), so would plan to get a SD card adapter for playing bigger files.
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Keep in mind that the hardware version you get will affect which ROMs you would be able to use. Not all galaxy tab 10.1's are the same.
Due to its popularity the wifi only tabs have a greater number of ROMs wheras those of us on Verizon tabs for example have to either use Liquidspeed or take the leaked 3.2 ROM and customize it.
I really like my Verizon version though.
After playing with my in-laws iPads, and my rooted thunderbolt, I picked up this galaxy.
A few times I have been *almost* to the point of getting rid of it. Maybe after I can find out how to root the VZW 4G one I have, it will get better. The internet is VERY laggy on mine. I have tried the OEM browser, firefox, dolphin and they all stink.
sigh,
muzzy996 said:
Keep in mind that the hardware version you get will affect which ROMs you would be able to use. Not all galaxy tab 10.1's are the same.
Due to its popularity the wifi only tabs have a greater number of ROMs wheras those of us on Verizon tabs for example have to either use Liquidspeed or take the leaked 3.2 ROM and customize it.
I really like my Verizon version though.
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Yeah I was going to make mention of this as well. Personally I have the 3G 8.9, which I absolutely love, because I think Samsung hit the nail right on the head with the size sweet spot; even my Apple "fan-girl" sister saw it and was like "Whoa, that is really slick! What is that?"
Anyway, what I was about to say/ask is, considering you're not really going to be able to make any GSM calls on the tablet anyway, is there any specific reason you need to have 3G as opposed to sharing your SGS2's 3G via tethering? If being able to send/receive text message on a bigger screen is your concern, then may I suggest Tablet Talk? Basically the app actively syncs your text messages from your phone to your tablet via Bluetooth and/or WiFi. Uses very minimal battery, and it very useful. Even if you have conversations entirely on your tablet, they still show up in your phone's logs and message strings, so it's not fragmented or anything.
So, to break it down:
You already have SGS2.
Tablet Talk = SMS on your tablet via your SGS2
Mobile data connection = Tethering to your SGS2
WiFi versions = more popular in the dev community = better dev support
WiFi version = cheaper by ~£100 in most cases
Conclusion = Get WiFi version of GTab 10.1/8.9?
Unless of course I've missed something here, and the 3G version is still an absolute must...
What are your thoughts?
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StreetStrip01 said:
After playing with my in-laws iPads, and my rooted thunderbolt, I picked up this galaxy.
A few times I have been *almost* to the point of getting rid of it. Maybe after I can find out how to root the VZW 4G one I have, it will get better. The internet is VERY laggy on mine. I have tried the OEM browser, firefox, dolphin and they all stink.
sigh,
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Rule of thumb for future reference for anyone buying mobile devices:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER(!!!!) buy a device which has been subsidized, customized, or otherwise touched in ANY way shape or form, by a carrier.
Carrier subsidized devices = Slower, bloated, locked down, controlled (by carrier), less popular for development, less chance of getting it to do what you want.
Solution:
Sell your 4G VZW Tab.
Get VZW LTE hotspot instead.
Get WiFi Tab instead.
Enjoy better dev support on your Tab device.
Continue to enjoy LTE speeds via your hotspot.
Profit.
Hi all
Thanks so much for all of your input.
Interesting points about using the mobile data of my SGS2 for the Galaxy Tab. Sounds like a good idea, but how would I go about this? Is it hard??
Cheers
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Anyway, what I was about to say/ask is, considering you're not really going to be able to make any GSM calls on the tablet anyway, is there any specific reason you need to have 3G as opposed to sharing your SGS2's 3G via tethering?
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I have a SGS2 and had a Wi-Fi Tab which I just replaced with a UK 3G version. Tethering is a pain in the ass.
- Get out the SGS2 and enable Wi-Fi Sharing
- Turn Wi-Fi on and connect the Tab
- Disconnect Wi-Fi on the Tab
- Turn off Wi-Fi Sharing on the SGS2
I was always forget to turn off Wi-Fi sharing and it kills the SGS2's battery. If you're traveling, it's great to whip out the Tab and instantly have access to e-mail and messaging without having to go through the above four step process.
Here's something to think about when deciding between Wi-Fi and 3G:
- I use the Tab as my primary e-mail and messaging device now because it's a joy to have the additional real estate to read and compose messages. The SwiftKey split keyboard is great and you can really pick up some speed for longer messages.
- Wi-Fi Sharing sucks battery on the phone. A couple of times I found myself screwed because my phone battery was low right before I needed to get on a long conference call.
- If you're on AT&T you can add-a-line for $9.99 and get unlimited data for $10 for the Tab. I also added unlimited messaging to mine for $10.
- The Tab switches between Wi-Fi and 3G automatically so it's always connected and your e-mail, messages, and anything else you're syncing are always current which means it doesn't slow to a crawl when you first start it while it's updating everything. It gets amazingly good battery life even when connected to 3G 24/7.
- Between my phone and Tab I burn through 10-14GB of data a month. If I did that while tethering there's a good chance I'd get flagged by AT&T for excessive usage. It's safer to split the data between the two devices and I'm still only paying $20 a month for data between both of them.
- There's a rumor that ICS will support GSM calling. If so, that will be a great benefit for video and conference calls. At a minimum, you've got the bonus of a second line/SIM that you can use by popping it in to another phone.
The benefits of 3G over the Wi-Fi version really depend on how you use your device. If you travel a lot I'd strongly recommend 3G. If you use it at home and/or always have access to Wi-Fi then save the money on the device and plan and go with Wi-Fi only.
Exactly what I need to know for real life usage. Majority of the being around WiFi connection will only make more sense to actually get a WiFi model and sorry about the moving out and about with a WiFi Tethering or might as well get a mobile hotspot to move around with
BarryH_GEG said:
I have a SGS2 and had a Wi-Fi Tab which I just replaced with a UK 3G version. Tethering is a pain in the ass.
- Get out the SGS2 and enable Wi-Fi Sharing
- Turn Wi-Fi on and connect the Tab
- Disconnect Wi-Fi on the Tab
- Turn off Wi-Fi Sharing on the SGS2
I was always forget to turn off Wi-Fi sharing and it kills the SGS2's battery. If you're traveling, it's great to whip out the Tab and instantly have access to e-mail and messaging without having to go through the above four step process.
Here's something to think about when deciding between Wi-Fi and 3G:
- I use the Tab as my primary e-mail and messaging device now because it's a joy to have the additional real estate to read and compose messages. The SwiftKey split keyboard is great and you can really pick up some speed for longer messages.
- Wi-Fi Sharing sucks battery on the phone. A couple of times I found myself screwed because my phone battery was low right before I needed to get on a long conference call.
- If you're on AT&T you can add-a-line for $9.99 and get unlimited data for $10 for the Tab. I also added unlimited messaging to mine for $10.
- The Tab switches between Wi-Fi and 3G automatically so it's always connected and your e-mail, messages, and anything else you're syncing are always current which means it doesn't slow to a crawl when you first start it while it's updating everything. It gets amazingly good battery life even when connected to 3G 24/7.
- Between my phone and Tab I burn through 10-14GB of data a month. If I did that while tethering there's a good chance I'd get flagged by AT&T for excessive usage. It's safer to split the data between the two devices and I'm still only paying $20 a month for data between both of them.
- There's a rumor that ICS will support GSM calling. If so, that will be a great benefit for video and conference calls. At a minimum, you've got the bonus of a second line/SIM that you can use by popping it in to another phone.
The benefits of 3G over the Wi-Fi version really depend on how you use your device. If you travel a lot I'd strongly recommend 3G. If you use it at home and/or always have access to Wi-Fi then save the money on the device and plan and go with Wi-Fi only.
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Back to topic, Tab would be better off with its customization and everytime flashing will virtually give the tab a new lease of life to it.
I just installed Cyanogen Mod (Spyder) latest nightly and want Jelly Bean 3 so bad and I got it alright with Safe Strap. Flashed the ROM and gapps at the same time in Safe Strap. Used these files:
cm-10.2-20131111-NIGHTLY-spyder.zip
gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
CM10.2 File
Size: 167.50 MB
Date: 2013-11-11 16:04:26
Well, what good is a smartphone that only works as a phone and has no data service. Are there ANY CM 10 ROMS that work for a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912 where both the phone AND data work? Yes, I got my Verizon service, can make are receive phone calls and SMS messages. If I turn off wireless, I can do nothing on the net at all because although the signal strength bars are there on top, I get no 4G, 3G, or anything to indicate data is active and I have an unlimited data account. If I safe strap back to Stock 4.1.2, everything works fine. But I want JB 3. Going back to 4.1.2 is what I already have and works great. Going to 4.2.2 hardly seems worth the effort. Will CM10 ever get to an Android 3 version where phone and data will work for Razr phones? (XT912) Any help would be appreciated.
Ohmster said:
I just installed Cyanogen Mod (Spyder) latest nightly and want Jelly Bean 3 so bad and I got it alright with Safe Strap. Flashed the ROM and gapps at the same time in Safe Strap. Used these files:
cm-10.2-20131111-NIGHTLY-spyder.zip
gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
CM10.2 File
Size: 167.50 MB
Date: 2013-11-11 16:04:26
Well, what good is a smartphone that only works as a phone and has no data service. Are there ANY CM 10 ROMS that work for a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912 where both the phone AND data work? Yes, I got my Verizon service, can make are receive phone calls and SMS messages. If I turn off wireless, I can do nothing on the net at all because although the signal strength bars are there on top, I get no 4G, 3G, or anything to indicate data is active and I have an unlimited data account. If I safe strap back to Stock 4.1.2, everything works fine. But I want JB 3. Going back to 4.1.2 is what I already have and works great. Going to 4.2.2 hardly seems worth the effort. Will CM10 ever get to an Android 3 version where phone and data will work for Razr phones? (XT912) Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm on gsm and don't know a lot and the us verizon lock service but,
-Cm10,2 must be flashed on romslot 1 in safestrap
-check in info the baseband version (to me happened to find it "unknown" in that case search a xt912 baseband and flash the zip)
Check if you have any APNs saved.
Go into settings>More...>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names.
If there isn't any entry in there, that means you need to create one to get data to work. Call up your provider or simply look up on the net for the APN.
Hope it works.
Ohmster said:
I just installed Cyanogen Mod (Spyder) latest nightly and want Jelly Bean 3 so bad and I got it alright with Safe Strap. Flashed the ROM and gapps at the same time in Safe Strap. Used these files:
cm-10.2-20131111-NIGHTLY-spyder.zip
gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
CM10.2 File
Size: 167.50 MB
Date: 2013-11-11 16:04:26
Are there ANY CM 10 ROMS that work for a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912 where both the phone AND data work?
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if yer just looking for a good cm10 rom, cm10.1.3 is very stable. 10.2 is still in beta i believe hence why data is an issue. give it a few weeks. but i highly suggest cm10.1.3
HUMBLExSWAGGER said:
if yer just looking for a good cm10 rom, cm10.1.3 is very stable. 10.2 is still in beta i believe hence why data is an issue. give it a few weeks. but i highly suggest cm10.1.3
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cyanogenmod has stop develop all phone with old OMAP...include our razr
We'll never see an official CM11 or a new stable 10.2
Vallerino WR said:
cyanogenmod has stop develop all phone with old OMAP...include our razr
We'll never see an official CM11 or a new stable 10.2
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.....awe crap! I got MC10.2 on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5113 and love it so much, everything works perfect! I broke the outer screen digitizer, ordered a new one from a Chinese guy on eBay for $21, replaced it, good as new. Then, two days ago, I had to go to the doctor and was so distressed, I dropped the tablet again and this time the outter glass digitizer is all but crystalized. It still works so I ordered another digitizer and will replace it, but I do love the MC ROMS so much better than Verizon Blur, which I am using now on the Razr with Android 4.1.2, rooted, and it works so nice. Everything works!
I tried CM 10.2 on the phone (Safe Strap) and lost data. No good. Went to 10.1, data and phone work great, AND, I got my Cyanogen ROM so I could customize the hell out of it. But after a few days of it, this don't work anymore, that don't work anymore, and a whole lot of this stuff has been happening. I need Wireless Tether for Root Users and it works perfect on the Verizon Blur, but no wireless tether will work at all on CM ten anything! Not even all my apps, many of the ones I like and use all the time will not work. The Tether is a deal breaker. I have spent most of my time booted to stock rom slot in Safe Strap because at least I know that everything will work in it.
I finally reached the conclusion two days ago that Cyanogen ROMS are the Sh*t and I want them bad, but for a Motorola Razr Maxx, it is not ready for prime time in any way and now from what you say, it never will be. I will have to upgrade my entire phone to something else. What is really good? The Samsung Galaxy? Will that work with phone and data in CM 10.2 or should I just give up on Cyanogen completely? What is a really good ROM for this phone or what new phone should I get, powerful, great graphics, big screen, nice. Sounds like the Galaxy to me.
I really need a lot of opinions and advice, please pitch in guys. Thanks all.
10.2 w/data working, XT912
Ohmster said:
I just installed Cyanogen Mod (Spyder) latest nightly and want Jelly Bean 3 so bad and I got it alright with Safe Strap. Flashed the ROM and gapps at the same time in Safe Strap. Used these files:
cm-10.2-20131111-NIGHTLY-spyder.zip
gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip
CM10.2 File
Size: 167.50 MB
Date: 2013-11-11 16:04:26
Well, what good is a smartphone that only works as a phone and has no data service. Are there ANY CM 10 ROMS that work for a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx XT912 where both the phone AND data work? Yes, I got my Verizon service, can make are receive phone calls and SMS messages. If I turn off wireless, I can do nothing on the net at all because although the signal strength bars are there on top, I get no 4G, 3G, or anything to indicate data is active and I have an unlimited data account. If I safe strap back to Stock 4.1.2, everything works fine. But I want JB 3. Going back to 4.1.2 is what I already have and works great. Going to 4.2.2 hardly seems worth the effort. Will CM10 ever get to an Android 3 version where phone and data will work for Razr phones? (XT912) Any help would be appreciated.
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I just installed 10.2-20131126-NIGHTLY-spyder on my xt912, data would not work. I went to SYSTEM SETTINGS>MORE...>MOBILE NETWORKS>NETWORK MODE and changed to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" Works great, phone and data.
ndg99 said:
I just installed 10.2-20131126-NIGHTLY-spyder on my xt912, data would not work. I went to SYSTEM SETTINGS>MORE...>MOBILE NETWORKS>NETWORK MODE and changed to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" Works great, phone and data.
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...really? No crap? Oh man, now I have to nuke the 10.1 I replaced it with, unless, ...I can move ROM slots around. This is really important information, I have to save this. Will let you know, thanks buddy!
Man it is Thanksgiving, it is 11:40 PM and I am bored. I just *have* to try ndg99's advice, reinstall CM10.2 and change the Network Mode and see if this really works. I don't remember seeing a "More" option in settings, going to check current CM10.1 ROM install to see if such a thing exists in this ROM's settings or not. I got this all setup and would really hate to nuke it, only to find the new ROM isn't better. No way to save ROM slot 1 to another slot, is there? That would be sweet so I could try the new one yet still save what I know is working and already setup. Hmmm, Wireless Tether for Root Users might not work anymore without CDMA, but the new version never worked anyway, only the older beta version works. Maybe the new one will work with this new network setting. This is a "Must Have" app for me.
...oh wow, there really is a "More" in 10.1 and your settings are already selected! Why in the hell would they change that in the Spyder ROM for 10.2? This is SO stupid because now I have to go through the whole setup, then change the network settings, and this might blow the entire Google Restore Apps script! Hmmm, maybe skip everything in setup, change networks, get my data back, and then what? Reset Factory? That might mess up the network again. Grrrr, there has to be a way to make this work so Google will put my stuff back! Is there a setup wizard in the CD app drawer? No. Oh crap, this is WAY to much stuff setup in 10.1 to have to do all over again. There must be a way to save this config... Wonder if I can "update" over this ROM right from Cyanogen. They do give you updates in the Settings.
OMG! Right there!
/Settings/About Phone/CyanogenMod updates/cm-10.2-20131126-NIGHTLY
It is right there, in the update section. No need to install the ROM, gapps, restore and setup everything again. This is way too good to be true! Valium, my kingdom for a Valium please!
Battery at 80%, okay on that. Google account, should reinstall my stuff, only works once though, so if you lost it the first time, you have to factory wipe to get that update script to run again. That bites, because I know data will not work until I try these new settings.
Originally Posted by ndg99 View Post
I just installed 10.2-20131126-NIGHTLY-spyder on my xt912, data would not work. I went to SYSTEM SETTINGS>MORE...>MOBILE NETWORKS>NETWORK MODE and changed to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" Works great, phone and data.
Man, this is like getting an early Christmas Present! I need a Valium before I crap my pants! :laugh:
Am I forgetting anything? I got Titanium and will need that because not all apps came from Google. Hmmm, Google should reinstall Titanium, just finding my old backups and restoring apps only to the new system I will have to see about.
Okay, going for the update to 10.2 in Settings/About Phone. Will keep you all posted! :laugh:
Oh crap! The update was there! But because it is a major update to a newer release, 10.1-10.2, it put me into safe strap. I never did this before so I found "Instructions" on how to do it. There was a new directory on the SDCARD called cmupdates, and in there was the new update! But, I will need a new set of gapps to go with it, have it on my card, and picked that too, was ready to go, but these dammed instructions recommended clearing the caches and a factory reset. Okay, I cleared the zip cache, did the wipes, and went back to install my update. Guess what? It was gone! I bet the factory reset is what did it. Lucky I have the right ROM and gapps on the phone so it is from scratch, all over again, and this could have been so nice and sweet, too.
Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, or live and learn. Next time I do something like this, I for sure will not be doing a factory reset just to update my phone. So stupid! Done already? I picked up the phone and by accident hit the back button so I could not see the flash results. Well, booting to system now. Oh, new boot animation! Taking a while so yeah, looks like we are getting a new phone alright. Man, if only I didn't do that reset! Man it was all setup right too. Bummer.
Alright, the Google App Install script is running. Had to go through setup through wireless, finished it, got my Cyanogen account and Google accounts, then switched over to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" and turned off wifi just to see if I really had data. Google failed on a download during the process but sure enough, without wifi my apps are updating. I got data again in 10.2! Not crazy about the icon though. Says LTE and not 4G or anything like that but it works. If only I did not do that reset, well, it is working and I know better next time. I will start setting it up, might just watch a movie and let Google do it's thing. Then run Titanium to restore all my apps w/out data. Then go back and restore data for the ones that really need it.
Thank you very, very much, ndg99.
This is really what I want. A phone free of bloatware that is fully customizable, rooted of course, and with Cyanogen, I got it. Even got OTA updates again. And this one would have worked too, had I not done a factory reset. I have done a lot of OTA updates and never got dumped into Safe Strap before. Now I know why. Because you have to flash your new gapps, the old ones won't work.
Okay, movie and popcorn time. Thank you everyone, it is such a pleasure to be with you all. I feel honored to be in such prestigious company. I am no slouch, graduated electronics technology in 1982, worked steadily all this time and have been at computers for close to 20 years. Cell phones and tablets were a natural and of course, just having one was not enough, rooting was the first big goal and I sort of put off ROMMING for a long time. It kind of scared me. But the new ROMS and the posts, screenshots, and videos made me drool. I just *had*I to learn it. Learned with ClockworkMod ROM manager and that worked so good too. Use it on my tablet all the time and on my old Droid X. Freaked me out when it bricked the Razr. "Encryption Error" loop that you could not get out of for nothing! Fortunately I still had my terrific Jellybean script, good old "Matt's DROID RAZR Utility XT912 Jellybean", the dude is a lifesaver and a genius. I love the Linux option. There is a funny quote in Matt's script, I think is where I saw it. When you run the Linux shell script, it begins telling you what it is doing and gets to "loading drivers" and it was so funny, "Drivers? We don't need no stinkin' drivers!". True, Linux connects to these phones like old friends. As long as you have the right package and script, you really are on easy street. Not like Windows with drivers and ADB and all that.
Wow, Google is really going to town getting my stuff back. Yeah, the app drawer is filling up. Titanium is not here yet but on the way.
Dammit! The Google Restore Apps script stopped! This bites. Google shows "all apps" and "installed apps", but has no way of offering to install all apps that are not currently installed. I would have to manually go down a list of apps in the hundreds maybe and install each one. Yet, they do offer to "update all". How stupid is this? Titanium, if ever I needed you, it is now, buddy. Titanium is doing it's thing. Will keep you all posted.
'night all! :good:
Worked like a charm. Thanks!
garbour said:
Worked like a charm. Thanks!
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garbour,
Could you do me a favor, if this really helped, there is a huge THANKS button under my name. Would it be too much trouble for you to actually click that button? It raises my status among members and gives seniority. You will be rewarded in kind when a post of yours helps someone.
is your 3G is on CDMA mode?
ndg99 said:
I just installed 10.2-20131126-NIGHTLY-spyder on my xt912, data would not work. I went to SYSTEM SETTINGS>MORE...>MOBILE NETWORKS>NETWORK MODE and changed to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" Works great, phone and data.
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is your 3G is on CDMA mode?
or your data id on 4G LTE?
Way cool stuff 4 U. Do NOT forget to click THANKS!
thomasmolover said:
is your 3G is on CDMA mode?
or your data id on 4G LTE?
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I will help you however I can and I know a lot. But I want for you to do me a favor and press the great big: THANKS button under my name at the bottom of the post where it says:
THANKS - REPLY - Multi-Quote - QUICK REPLY
Okay? Can you at least do that much for me? (Only if it helps you, not for pure rubbish or anything like that.)
Since CyanogenMod 10.2 did not give me data AT ALL when I installed it, I could not use it, took it out, and another fellow showed me how to make it work again, perfectly, with 4G speed when available. His settings worked perfectly for me and they are:
Go to: SYSTEM SETTINGS>MORE...>MOBILE NETWORKS>NETWORK MODE and changed to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo" Works great, phone and data.
This works perfectly for my phone. I get great phone and super fast data. The only thing that I miss is the 4G or 3G symbol at top bar. That is now replaced with I believe the LTE bar scale. This is hardly any sort of issue if it really words and it does. Maybe there is an app if one were really anal about this, who cares, it is the real deal. But do not take my word for it, test it yourself. Install a bandwidth speed test app from the play store. My favorite is FCC Speed Test:
Click the name to take you right to the install page. You have a Google account so it can install it right from your PC web page directly to your phone, tablet, or whatever. If you have more than one Android device, you can pick the download for the device you want it on. It says will be installed soon but if the thing is up, running, and online, you will have it installed in less than one minute.
Go look at my screenshot of my first test. This is a particularly cool one and it totally free The FCC is a government agency not biased by any individual company. It will give you raw data in real time. I have not played enough with this one but it has options to build a graph to see how it is doing over periods of time.
Dude, don't kid around. Look at the speeds for Chrissakes! Download 41.92 Mbps, my own Comcast service is rated at 25Mbps and used to be 6. Cable modems cannot regulate customer speed like DSL does. That is an individual digital subscriber line and AT&T has FULL control over it. If you get 6Mbps, that is ALL you will EVER get, it is hardwired into the protocol and how far from the office also limits your speed. This phone is totally kicking ass on my high speed Comcast and ANY DSL connection, now and all the time.
What is more impressive is that if you rooted your phone and who in here does not root there phone immediately?., then you can run a wireless hotspot so your laptop and up to 5 people can share your super fast internet on their devices too! Verizon would only "turn this feature on for an additional $20/Mo, whether you used it or not, period. I used to use apps like "Wireless tether for root users to get around this, share my high speed interrnet on my big WiFi Samsung Tab 2 10.1 because maps and navigation are glorious on such a big screen, especially Netflix or any high definition video that you want to watch. Comcast gives you quite a few movies and shows by network, TV or Movie, Genre, or anything you want. Now you get it all, free, on your tablet or several friends at the same time from your kick ass 4 G phone.
What is super cool about CyanogenMod ROM is not you get a free account for OTA updates and free wireless hotspot for you and your buddies is already built in! Pull down the quick settingsmenu where the clock is and tap to turn on WI-FI AP (Access Point), all configurable from the settings and it works GREAT. Nor more experimenting with different apps and combinations to make the phone work. Just do like I said, install the bandwidth test, and strap on some Depends Undergarments for Adults because you WILL soil your undies when you see the data streaming in and out of your phone with this app, not to mention the figures you get from the FCC Speed Test.
Forget the other settings, I tried several of them, this man who told me did his homework and this is the best thing you can get and it more than you had before. Just no 4G, 3G, or 2G icon, only bars. But the test will show you what is really going on.
I am quite sure you will be delighted with this, I will post a few shots of the built in wireless hot spot and how easy it is to turn on and off.
WARNING:
Using tether or WiFi hotspot does use a LOT of battery power. You could not keep this up for over an hour or much longer without a charger. Great for watching Law & Order in Hi/def at the doctor's waiting room, but if you plan to do this for over an hour, plug in the charger because it will eat your battery pretty quick. Remember, you are no longer just using the data for personal use on your phone, you are sharing it with one or more devices. That means that you are now running a WiFi brodcaster and broadcasting requires a LOT more power than simply receiving does. But this stuff is S?O cool you have to try it and will love it.
You must have a rooted phone to do stuff like this. Posts on this subject are everywhere so I need not go into it. Once I put CM 101 on the phone and in System Settings/About Phone/Cyanogen Updates. Pick what kind you want; stable, release candidate, or Experimental or NIGHTLIES, you will be shown what updates they are and install just by clicking to update phone. From 10.1 to 10.2 was a bit tricky, because I needed all new gapps to go with it or almost nothing will work. I got ClockworkMod Rom Manager and booted to recovery after that and installed the gapps zip file. This fixed a LOT of problems and most of my issues went away. It is always recommended you do that sort of an update by wiping everything off and starting fresh, but did not want to setup the entire phone again so the CM update with a second flash of gapps cleaned that right up.
thomasmolover said:
is your 3G is on CDMA mode?
or your data id on 4G LTE?
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thomasmolover,
There are no such options on CM ROM 10.2. The only thing there that works is:
CDMA + LTE/EvDo
Use that setting and it will work great! Don't take my word for it, do a Bandwidth Speed Test. The FCC app is free, gives great, fast results, and will even chart it for you over periods of time if you want to see when your low or peak periods are. Here, this is the one you want, download, install, and run it.
FCC Speed Test
Now go look at my attached thumbnail of the results screen. 41Mbps down and 16Mbps up is better than people with DSL get and matches and exceeds many cable modems. I don't need a "4G" icon to tell me this thing is kicking the speed barrier's butt! You get a super bonus in this package, built in WiFi hotspot is here in the pull down menu and it works perfectly. No need to hunt down and configure Wireless Tether for Root Users anymore, it is included, it works a treat, and if you have unlimited data, you will experience Nirvana! I use the phone to fire up my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 all the time for internet and navigation. Looking at a 10" nave screen beats the pants off a tiny 4" display any day of the week. I have been waiting so long for this. Use Safe Strap to flash this ROM and maintain it, big updates like 10.1 to 10.2 require going through recovery and Safe Strap will allow you to update the rom and gapps all at one time. Else choose TWRP and install that gapps package ASAP or practically nothing will work anymore.
This gives me 4G data speed where available but no longer shows up as 4G or 3G. I only get signal strength bars on top and I used the FCC broadband speed test. Yes, this is indeed running at 4G speed. Look at the attached test results. You see LTE at the top in the screencap with the bar strength graph? Now if that is NOT fast for a cell phone, then I don't know what it is.
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO THOSE WANTING CyanogenMod 10.2 w/Android 4.3.1:
The only way to get this mod is to choose the NIGHTLY builds and the corresponding gapps package to go with it. These are "not completely finished yet, have "Some bugs" and are being developed and improved every night almost. Make a CyanogenMod Account online or during the phone setup and get your updates OTA from Settings/About Phone. Set for "New Version (Incl. Nightlies)". Update the nightlies often, because things that were broke yesterday may work today, they get better every day. For me, this is WAY too cool to pass up. I use Safe Strap with a rooted stock blur OS for absolute stability but find myself staying in CM10.2 because I love it so much and am improving it all the time.
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It seems like all the 4.3 and above ROMS for CDMA are haveing 3g and data trouble.
I follow the setting step by step, But still cannot open 3G data
I'm sorry for my poor English, i meant i can't get any data service for 3G.
I follow the setting step by step, But still cannot open 3G data
i'm using ChinaTelecom 3G in china and set mcc 450 mnc 03, and edited build.prop file, but it still not work
I have not the nightly 1126 version and I use the 1213, is it only the 1126ver can open 3G data?
and My brower can not click the Multi-Quote button to reply the message, sorry
thomasmolover said:
I'm sorry for my poor English, i meant i can't get any data service for 3G.
I follow the setting step by step, But still cannot open 3G data
i'm using ChinaTelecom 3G in china and set mcc 450 mnc 03, and edited build.prop file, but it still not work
I have not the nightly 1126 version and I use the 1213, is it only the 1126ver can open 3G data?
and My brower can not click the Multi-Quote button to reply the message, sorry
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thomasmolover and others, I would like to help you but I am not an expert at all things phone, tablet, and Android. For me, I wanted root. Found that with root I could pretty much run all over the phone, nothing was off limits, and this would certainly have some kind of benefits that others with stock firmware from Verizon or other carriers do not have. So root was my first, big quest. I learned a lot by doing that. Installing drivers, using cables to connect to laptop or PC, using programs like Oden to push roms and data onto the device and install it. My favorite is Linux because drivers are never an issue, the phones and devices natively connect to Linux as if they were part of the system. Windows was a different story. The samsung Keis driver would not install properly at all, the Motorola drivers did install if I got the right ones, but they often installed things I did not want like MotoCast and other junk software that I do not need at all. Dropbox automatically uploads pictures and video, what do I need Motocast for? Syncing music to the device maybe, but if I wanted a music player, I would have bought a music player, this is a super cool smart phone, not an mp3 player. I think I got lucky the first few times with my Droid X by installing superuser or root apk files and installed them, but that did not last long.
Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, or ANY carriers DO NOT WANT YOU TO ROOT THE PHONE! So, they make the process very difficult or impossible if they can. Many computer and device owners are not exactly brilliant people. They do what the device offers, enjoy it for what it is, and pay extra money to turn on "cool services" that they want like Mobile hot spot. For Verizon, that is $20/Mo whether you use it or not. They fill it with bloatware or "junk" like VZ Navigator that will be a GPS unit for your car to get you to your destination, for about $4 each time you use it. Why in hell would I want to do that when Google Maps does the very same thing, is MUCH more updated and accurate, and are free? With a rooted phone, you can turn on the mobil hot spot, use it to your hearts content, and cannot be billed for it because the phone company has not idea that you are doing this or any way to track usage for billing.
I make friends here and on other forums. We talked. They loved to talk about the newest or coolest ROM they installed to change the phone and how much better it was. They sent screenshots. The phone was cool alright and all that junk/pay software from Motorola, Verizon, or anyone else was gone. Good riddance, not only less useless clutter but more free card space. It took me a while to build up the balls to ROM my phone or tablet. I think I did the tablet first because I need my phone for work and daily use. If I mess up the tablet and have to try again, not a big deal.
You will be able to tell who is experienced and very good at this by their member status and by the way they talk. Try to make good friends with one or two of them. Let them show you some of the ROMS they installed and courage them to talk about what is good about it. People love to talk so if given the opportunity and an audience, they will talk. I cannot believe that some of these ROMS will turn your beautiful Android phone into an iPhone. If I wanted and iPhone I would have bought one. So make friends, talk to them. Learn from them.
The tablet I have, Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I rooted of course, then tried CyanogenMod ROM on because their seemed to be a LOT of support for it and development work going on. Now that my devices are rooted, I installed and purchased Titanium Backup and ClockworkMod ROM Manager. Both essential, both free, but the small amount you pay for a lifetime license is well worth it. With ROM Manager, you can totally backup your entire device, play with it, change it, mess it up, and always restore your backup to "put it back right". WOW! Same thing worked on the Droid X, but not the Razr Maxx, you must use Safe Strap for that.
Now that I have the confidence to change the entire operating system and if I don't like it or mess it up, I can easily restore it, I can start experimenting with ROMS. The Tablet was first, it does not have a "radio" in it because it runs on WiFi, has no carrier or monthly bill. The phone was a little more scary because I read in these ROMS that some of them have problems with "the radio" (The part of the phone that connects you to your service) so I stayed away from those. I finally installed CM10.1 on the phone and it wall worked great. I now have Jelly Bean, it is smoother, nicer, slicker, and works better if you do not get a buggy or beading edge ROM. And holy crap, you can customize just about *anything* on these ROMS, not like stock "Stock is frequently called blur" firmware or ROMs.
Now I want CM10.2 on the phone and Tab to get Android 4.3.1. I now use Safe Strap instead of ClockworkMod ROM Manager on the Razr Maxx because CWM will semi-brick the phone and it will never boot again unless you reinstall the entire ROM from a computer. Safe Strap does away with all that by letting you flash the ROM and gapps zip files at boot time. I heard talk that the radio and phone service did not work on the CyanogenMod ROMS anymore because they do not work on CDMA base radio anymore and that is what the Droid Razr Maxx uses for the phone. I installed it and the gapps with Safe Strap, keeping my original rooted stock blur ROM available and during the setup process, had to turn on the wifi right away and get it connected or the setup could not continue. Uh oh, looks like I will not have a working phone if I do this and for sure, data only, no more phone. I wiped CM10.1 off the phone and went back to rooted stock. But I did ask about CM10.2 on this phone and not being able to use it as a phone anymore. Being nice here paid off. Someone told me that of course it works, but you must change the radio settings under the settings menu.
/System Settings/More/Mobile Networks/Network Mode/ and choose CDMA + LTE/EvDo.
I did this, got back my signal strength bars, but no more 3G or 4G indicators anymore.It now also says LTE over the bars and works just fine. I did not have to reboot or anything, just make the change and try it out. Works great! I love CM10.2 because now you can get a free CyanogenMod account and get updates OTA just like the old days. These ROM updates are rooted so you never have to worry about losing root, and are slick as hell. But to get this stuff, you must use the NIGHTLIES builds, not the stable ones. I would swtich back to stock blur for daily use and then reboot to CM10.2 for a while until I became comfortable enough with it to try using it all the time. I had some issues, apps would stop, it would get stuck once in a while, but for the most part, all was well. But there now were updates in the System menu, I applied them and the phone only gets better. I am happy.
This is how I got my introduction to rooting, ROMMing, and customizing my devices. I know nothing about China Telecom, what exact type of device you are using. (Mine is a Motorola Droid Razr Mazz model XT912) Chances are that you will not get much help in this discussion because it is very specific to China and China Telecom. I would recommend that you make a new post, explain your situation best as you can, give exact brand, make, and model number of your phone, and the service provider you use. A couple of screenshots of the About Phone section always helps. CM ROMS offer the option for screenshots in the power press menu. Take some shots and post them so others can see what you are working on and with. They may ask you to go to different screens and take more shots to share. I attached a couple of screenshots of About Phone from 10.1 I have laying around to show you how to attach screenshots.
My best advice to you my new friend is to start a new post specific to your particular issue. Include important information in the title such as "China Telecom Razr Mazz XT912 with CM102" or whatever your ROM, model, and issue is to attract the attention of those that can help you. It is not likely that someone with a Chinatelecom issue will wander into this post and have the answer you want, but stranger things have happened. Make your own post, include all of the details that matter, and find people that who have been there, done that, and can really help you.
If you find this answer really did help you, please click the big "THANKS" button under my name. Good luck, this CM10.2 is good stuff, even though I have already updated it twice already. :fingers-crossed:
Razr XT912 verizon with Mokee442 now can Link ChinaTelecom 3G
Ohmster said:
thomasmolover and others, I would like to help you but I am not an expert at all things phone, tablet, and Android. For me, I wanted root. Found that with root I could pretty much run all over the phone, nothing was off limits, and this would certainly have some kind of benefits that others with stock firmware from Verizon or other carriers do not have. So root was my first, big quest. I learned a lot by doing that. Installing drivers, using cables to connect to laptop or PC, using programs like Oden to push roms and data onto the device and install it. My favorite is Linux because drivers are never an issue, the phones and devices natively connect to Linux as if they were part of the system. Windows was a different story. The samsung Keis driver would not install properly at all, the Motorola drivers did install if I got the right ones, but they often installed things I did not want like MotoCast and other junk software that I do not need at all. Dropbox automatically uploads pictures and video, what do I need Motocast for? Syncing music to the device maybe, but if I wanted a music player, I would have bought a music player, this is a super cool smart phone, not an mp3 player. I think I got lucky the first few times with my Droid X by installing superuser or root apk files and installed them, but that did not last long.
Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, or ANY carriers DO NOT WANT YOU TO ROOT THE PHONE! So, they make the process very difficult or impossible if they can. Many computer and device owners are not exactly brilliant people. They do what the device offers, enjoy it for what it is, and pay extra money to turn on "cool services" that they want like Mobile hot spot. For Verizon, that is $20/Mo whether you use it or not. They fill it with bloatware or "junk" like VZ Navigator that will be a GPS unit for your car to get you to your destination, for about $4 each time you use it. Why in hell would I want to do that when Google Maps does the very same thing, is MUCH more updated and accurate, and are free? With a rooted phone, you can turn on the mobil hot spot, use it to your hearts content, and cannot be billed for it because the phone company has not idea that you are doing this or any way to track usage for billing.
I make friends here and on other forums. We talked. They loved to talk about the newest or coolest ROM they installed to change the phone and how much better it was. They sent screenshots. The phone was cool alright and all that junk/pay software from Motorola, Verizon, or anyone else was gone. Good riddance, not only less useless clutter but more free card space. It took me a while to build up the balls to ROM my phone or tablet. I think I did the tablet first because I need my phone for work and daily use. If I mess up the tablet and have to try again, not a big deal.
You will be able to tell who is experienced and very good at this by their member status and by the way they talk. Try to make good friends with one or two of them. Let them show you some of the ROMS they installed and courage them to talk about what is good about it. People love to talk so if given the opportunity and an audience, they will talk. I cannot believe that some of these ROMS will turn your beautiful Android phone into an iPhone. If I wanted and iPhone I would have bought one. So make friends, talk to them. Learn from them.
The tablet I have, Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I rooted of course, then tried CyanogenMod ROM on because their seemed to be a LOT of support for it and development work going on. Now that my devices are rooted, I installed and purchased Titanium Backup and ClockworkMod ROM Manager. Both essential, both free, but the small amount you pay for a lifetime license is well worth it. With ROM Manager, you can totally backup your entire device, play with it, change it, mess it up, and always restore your backup to "put it back right". WOW! Same thing worked on the Droid X, but not the Razr Maxx, you must use Safe Strap for that.
Now that I have the confidence to change the entire operating system and if I don't like it or mess it up, I can easily restore it, I can start experimenting with ROMS. The Tablet was first, it does not have a "radio" in it because it runs on WiFi, has no carrier or monthly bill. The phone was a little more scary because I read in these ROMS that some of them have problems with "the radio" (The part of the phone that connects you to your service) so I stayed away from those. I finally installed CM10.1 on the phone and it wall worked great. I now have Jelly Bean, it is smoother, nicer, slicker, and works better if you do not get a buggy or beading edge ROM. And holy crap, you can customize just about *anything* on these ROMS, not like stock "Stock is frequently called blur" firmware or ROMs.
Now I want CM10.2 on the phone and Tab to get Android 4.3.1. I now use Safe Strap instead of ClockworkMod ROM Manager on the Razr Maxx because CWM will semi-brick the phone and it will never boot again unless you reinstall the entire ROM from a computer. Safe Strap does away with all that by letting you flash the ROM and gapps zip files at boot time. I heard talk that the radio and phone service did not work on the CyanogenMod ROMS anymore because they do not work on CDMA base radio anymore and that is what the Droid Razr Maxx uses for the phone. I installed it and the gapps with Safe Strap, keeping my original rooted stock blur ROM available and during the setup process, had to turn on the wifi right away and get it connected or the setup could not continue. Uh oh, looks like I will not have a working phone if I do this and for sure, data only, no more phone. I wiped CM10.1 off the phone and went back to rooted stock. But I did ask about CM10.2 on this phone and not being able to use it as a phone anymore. Being nice here paid off. Someone told me that of course it works, but you must change the radio settings under the settings menu.
/System Settings/More/Mobile Networks/Network Mode/ and choose CDMA + LTE/EvDo.
I did this, got back my signal strength bars, but no more 3G or 4G indicators anymore.It now also says LTE over the bars and works just fine. I did not have to reboot or anything, just make the change and try it out. Works great! I love CM10.2 because now you can get a free CyanogenMod account and get updates OTA just like the old days. These ROM updates are rooted so you never have to worry about losing root, and are slick as hell. But to get this stuff, you must use the NIGHTLIES builds, not the stable ones. I would swtich back to stock blur for daily use and then reboot to CM10.2 for a while until I became comfortable enough with it to try using it all the time. I had some issues, apps would stop, it would get stuck once in a while, but for the most part, all was well. But there now were updates in the System menu, I applied them and the phone only gets better. I am happy.
This is how I got my introduction to rooting, ROMMing, and customizing my devices. I know nothing about China Telecom, what exact type of device you are using. (Mine is a Motorola Droid Razr Mazz model XT912) Chances are that you will not get much help in this discussion because it is very specific to China and China Telecom. I would recommend that you make a new post, explain your situation best as you can, give exact brand, make, and model number of your phone, and the service provider you use. A couple of screenshots of the About Phone section always helps. CM ROMS offer the option for screenshots in the power press menu. Take some shots and post them so others can see what you are working on and with. They may ask you to go to different screens and take more shots to share. I attached a couple of screenshots of About Phone from 10.1 I have laying around to show you how to attach screenshots.
My best advice to you my new friend is to start a new post specific to your particular issue. Include important information in the title such as "China Telecom Razr Mazz XT912 with CM102" or whatever your ROM, model, and issue is to attract the attention of those that can help you. It is not likely that someone with a Chinatelecom issue will wander into this post and have the answer you want, but stranger things have happened. Make your own post, include all of the details that matter, and find people that who have been there, done that, and can really help you.
If you find this answer really did help you, please click the big "THANKS" button under my name. Good luck, this CM10.2 is good stuff, even though I have already updated it twice already. :fingers-crossed:
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thank you for the long reply and help me with frendly. I flash the Mokee Rom of China team, Now I can use 3G, follow
1. flash rom into the Razr XT912
2. you must not wipe data and cache if the last rom is CM11 mod
3. dial *#*#4636#*#*, switch dns check to "0.0.0.0 allowed", change the network type into any include "CDMA" mode (NOT WCDMA!!)
4. edit /system/biuld.prop file: telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
5. reboot the mobile
6. now we can switch 3G data any time!!
thomasmolover said:
thank you for the long reply and help me with frendly. I flash the Mokee Rom of China team, Now I can use 3G, follow
1. flash rom into the Razr XT912
2. you must not wipe data and cache if the last rom is CM11 mod
3. dial *#*#4636#*#*, switch dns check to "0.0.0.0 allowed", change the network type into any include "CDMA" mode (NOT WCDMA!!)
4. edit /system/biuld.prop file: telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
5. reboot the mobile
6. now we can switch 3G data any time!!
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On #4, how do you edit that?
My problem is I get LTE just fine but if I lose LTE signal, it doesn't switch to 3G. I just lose data signal all together.