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I've seen threads about the prime where the question is "what do we know for SURE" and an obvious answer is nothing really. What about ics? Google searching really doesn't help since it is over posted with no concrete answers I can find.
So what are the main differences besides it being made tobwork on tablets or phones? I have a few answers that sound believable, but I would like to see some sources, not just rumors.
Oh, and trolls aren't needed, this should be a semi-serious topic, not just another wasted spot on the internet..
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One thing we've learned is it eliminates capacitive buttons. That's why the Prime's screen is so large. I think it does bridge the gap between tabs and phones. Downside is it may make it bad for updating current phones.
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Blue Themed
Camera has built in panorama mode
Will launch with Google Shopper and NFC Enabled devices will be able to utilize those features
Gmail is all rethemed
Will be available for the Nexus S Nexus Prime gets it first (expected) then other devices will follow after
Not too many changes, just UI things, don't think requirements are set too high for year old devices to run it
The little icon in the bottom right, looks like a tray with multiple apps in it
Google search bar embedded on very top like Honeycomb Apps/Widgets launcher a lot like Honeycomb
This release is still very early, notice the theming of the power tray
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BelowTheHeavens said:
Blue Themed
Camera has built in panorama mode
Will launch with Google Shopper and NFC Enabled devices will be able to utilize those features
Gmail is all rethemed
Will be available for the Nexus S Nexus Prime gets it first (expected) then other devices will follow after
Not too many changes, just UI things, don't think requirements are set too high for year old devices to run it
The little icon in the bottom right, looks like a tray with multiple apps in it
Google search bar embedded on very top like Honeycomb Apps/Widgets launcher a lot like Honeycomb
This release is still very early, notice the theming of the power tray
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Looks a lot like Touchwiz. Can you confirm if it's involved?
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Aren't there hardware keys?
Ice cream won't need hardware keys?!
Confusing
I think if the design is as good as my hd2 I will buy it and the display will be real hd! 720p.
1.5ghz dualcore processor.
Yes thats what I know for sure.
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jonas2295 said:
Aren't there hardware keys?
Ice cream won't need hardware keys?!
Confusing
I think if the design is as good as my hd2 I will buy it and the display will be real hd! 720p.
1.5ghz dualcore processor.
Yes thats what I know for sure.
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The phone in the pics are nexus s with test version.
And what you know for sure is nexus prime not ICS lol.
What I know: It will be and is intented to work on different device, from hero to gs2, and different screen sizes with an adaptive UI (not sure about this).
One more: it will be awsome!
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tt0204 said:
The phone in the pics are nexus s with test version.
And what you know for sure is nexus prime not ICS lol.
What I know: It will be and is intented to work on different device, from hero to gs2, and different screen sizes with an adaptive UI (not sure about this).
One more: it will be awsome!
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http://pocketnow.com/android/samsungs-legal-team-confirms-nexus-prime
Some sources
But it´s nearly sure that it will have ICS ;D
I've heard the platform called "a marriage between TI and Android," and "a marriage of Gingerbread and Honeycomb." Also, "Honeycomb for phones."
Ice Cream Sandwich is a somewhat faraway version of Android that will look much more like the sexy Honeycomb we phone users have seen from afar (imagine that Android Marketplace look brought to other stock apps), and it might just have the Honeycomb bottom bar too. (Although personally, I'd rather it NOT be there if/when the phone was switched to landscape mode)...
Has anyone read an actual date yet? I heard in Jan. I saw ICS on the new Nexus and it looks awesome!
Not sure a solid date, but Asus said it would be in January. Of course, Google had a hard time predicting updates to its Nexus devices, and kept missing dates for updating the OS on its older phones. Hell, they originally said the Nexus One would be updated to ICS, but then said it wouldn't.
If Google can't predict it than I would take any announcement as an approximation. However, I think the prime will be updated soon. I bet it already works and is ready they just did not want to risk shipping with the new OS.
ICS is great though. I have it running in a virtual machine and it is very nice.
What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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Jan 31. Everything else should exceed expectations.
Andrew.80 said:
What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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A lot of UI and feature additions, but performance and battery usage get a good boost. You can really see this in a Virtual Machine. Gingerbread runs horrible and Honeycomb is almost unusable, but ICS is smooth like butter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#4.x_Ice_Cream_Sandwich
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What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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It has a whole bunch of new UI tweaks, from the multi-tasking (I guess you can swipe left and it shuts down the program), to the notifications pane, it provides more information in bigger panels, and a settings option in the notification panel as well. I'd imagine more widgets as well. I also read somewhere it runs much smoother and uses less memory than Gingerbread, just to name a couple things off the top of my head.
being that they're running test builds on it internally already, i can see it happening sometime in jan
Is there any want to get a rom lioe it and boot via sd?
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Not sure a solid date, but Asus said it would be in January. Of course, Google had a hard time predicting updates to its Nexus devices, and kept missing dates for updating the OS on its older phones. Hell, they originally said the Nexus One would be updated to ICS, but then said it wouldn't.
If Google can't predict it than I would take any announcement as an approximation. However, I think the prime will be updated soon. I bet it already works and is ready they just did not want to risk shipping with the new OS.
ICS is great though. I have it running in a virtual machine and it is very nice.
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what's you virtual machine setup? is it difficult to set it up? I'd like to give it a try too, I've tried the ICS virtualbox thing, it was still laggy everywhere.
Hopefully, when they're talking about updating tablets "in the weeks ahead", they're talking about the TP.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/android-4-0-3-announced-brings-variety-of-optimizations-and-bu/
Google just announced ICS version 4.03 to be released. They want that to be base version for tablets n phones.
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what's you virtual machine setup? is it difficult to set it up? I'd like to give it a try too, I've tried the ICS virtualbox thing, it was still laggy everywhere.
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I use the AVD (android virtual device) that's part of the SDK. Its much easier than setting up a real virtual machine since you would have to compile android from source, and it works well enough to test drive. My main goal was to try and register my avd as a device in the Google Market so I could get some 10 cents apps that were not compatible with my phone but would be with the Prime; however, I ran into snags getting the Android Market working, so I decided it was not worth the time to get a couple of 10 cent apps.
You can get more information here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
http://www.abctrick.com/2011/10/complete-guide-about-how-to-run-android.html
It can sound complicated, but it not really. Once you have the SDK, you can create a virtual device and you are good to go. It will lack all the Google apps, but there is a way to get them working with some effort. I just did not have the time.
The first tablet to get CM9 will be the G-Tab 10.1 and it's expected fairly soon. Steve Kondik, the founder of CyanogenMod, is now a Samsung employee.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392828
This is little offtopic, But it's shows that ICS will make Prime faster.
HC isn't so good and have its performance problems, but with Tegra3 its seems to perform well regarding the reviews that been made. So I am pretty excited about how good and fast it will be with ICS.
XOOM have got a alpha rom, and the quote is from The Verge
" but the good news is that early indications show that Ice Cream Sandwich is showing much better performance on the Xoom than Honeycomb did"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/16/...-android-4-0-3-install-as-google-adds-code-to
Worry about getting the Prime first.
According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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do you have a link or something to verify this?
if it's accurate, ICS should hit all TF201 devices essentially at the same time, so super early jan/late dec would be pretty sweet, as the less time i have to spend with ****ty ****ty ****ty HC the better.
Here.
Hi all, each individual country will have different shipment date of the products and thus for SG, based on latest schedule, stocks will be available in Jan 2012. In addition, the Eee Pad Transformer Prime for SG will be in Ice Cream sandwich which customers do not need to do FOTA update. Thanks for your kind understanding.
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pandaball said:
According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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Do you have a reference?
I'm hoping that ICS would be released soon.
Gahhh, the wait.
Edit: ^ Missed your post. Nvm =P
It's a simple question, but without a simple answer. With all of the OEMs in the Android environment, none of them have ever released a phone with vanilla Android without the direct partnership (or prodding) of Google in some way.
Most everyone agrees that the OEMs want to differentiate themselves from the competition and this is how they go about it, but why hasn't one ever released a phone without additional "features" or UI overlays? It doesn't make sense to believe Google isn't somehow leveraging their brand recognition of the Nexus line when dealing with OEMs.
Has an OEM pushed out a vanilla Android Jellybean device (or ICS) not in the Nexus line that still comes with Gapps?
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Meant for Android General, not Nexus 7 forum.
The LG G2X was pure AOSP and not a Nexus, I'm sure there are other examples. But your specific question is about Jelly Bean, which is probably still too new for a manufacturer to release a phone with a vanilla build. Either way, you are certainly wrong in assuming no OEMs have released a pure AOSP device that wasn't a Nexus.
There's a world out there of stock Android phones non Nexus.
Mostly low end phone though. Also the first Android phones like the G1, mytouch 3g, Motorola Droid, etc. were all stock.
Still phones being released quite lately (t mobile prism, zte avail) are stock.
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In the old days OEMs rrleased with stock android both my htc magic and motorola milestone came with stock android (1.6 and 2.0 respectively).
But these days most phones have very simlar hardware and with so many phones on the market the only way they can stand out is to include there own UI or enhanced apps. Since HTC released there first version of sense there has become a big market for companys to build and change android to make it "better" (some cases done better than others)
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they're certainly allowed to. it's the OEMs who choose to much their phones up with their custom crap.
And Carriers who don't the same looking phone on store shelves.
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If you look at the Asus Padfone and those from Acer, they all come with vanilla Android. So yes, they are allowed to
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This might just be the feature that pulls me away from AOKP for good. Windowed Multitasking is the one feature that I feel is crippling Android(and iOS for that matter) from rising as a serious competitor to traditional OSes(Windows, OS X, Ubuntu etc.). Anyone else excited for this?
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/28/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
Official source from PA team: https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/P6a1hP3vKxP
+1... looking forward to this for my galaxy and my 10... not really sure how necessary it is for me, or android in general. but maybe I'll realize I can't live without it.
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Already running PA for tablet mode but this just gives me even more reason to stick with them. I was running it on my S3 too but didn't really like it over TW.
Yup, very much looking forward to this. If they pull it off, I'll be a PA man from here on out! From watching the video, their implementation looks much nicer than most too.
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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And then 1-2 months of bugfixing in ROMs so it actually works ok
I asked about multitasking on PA thread for N10, and the answer wasn't far from what I think it might be the truth, seeing how is it going with the phones and tablets running PA ROM.
"Still far from done, and it's really questionable how exactly it will function on a tablet, seeing how the PA team is focused on phone development mostly. "
Interesting - I hope we get something like this. Another kick-ass developer timduru ported Cornerstone to EOS for the Asus Transformer TF101. It worked quite well. It certainly didn't make the TF101 any faster, but it was definitely something that I think improved the user experience on the tablet. I was able to watch video in one window and surf the net in another. :laugh:
For me, this was the most anticipated feature since I got my first Android tablet (which would be this one... :silly: ). Right now, I'm using the floating browser as a workaround, since the functionality of some apps can also be found on the web. - Except, of course, in offline situations.
I'm eagerly awaiting this, and I know that team PA can pull it off!
Pa just released a new video on Google +... it makes way more sense to me now... this will be rad with pie... Not sure how useful on the nexus 10 but awesome on my galaxy nexus... Can't wait
I guess I could post the link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vlrgCteDac&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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For phones I can see this feature being extremely innovative and useful but for the Nexus 10 it would make more sense to implement something similar to cornerstone or what Samsung has done. Mostly due to the fact that tablets have such large real estate that can be utilized with multiple windows up.
The idea is great for phones but I, personally, would prefer something similar to what I mentioned. However, something is better than nothing.
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I would prefer actual windowed multitasking on the nexus 10, it makes sense on tablets as you have all that space and resolution that gets wasted on stretching out a single app
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I'm Chinese on mainland of China. Today I read a news about the so called "Android Window System ". First of all I just think it would be a ugly copycat of floating apps or something similar, but while I was watching the demo video I was totally shocked. It might be really a breakthrough for android tablet in my eyes. I don't know how many of you can read Chinese and can link to this video site due to China's Government Firewall, but if you can, you must have a look.
The news site : http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/244878.htm
The video site : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTgzMjAwNDMy.html?x
(there are three demo videos in the news, I post one of the video address here, you can find all the three in the last of the news. If anyone interested in helping me to post in YouTube, just contact me. )
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Cool I want this
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6 words: I want, I want, I want!
This better go open source...
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This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
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This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
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I didn't mention it is any official Android version. It's true that it is for Rockchip's devices and use Rockchip's own sdk. I just wanted to show you guys what these devices can actually do. Multiwindow may not be useful on phones, but I want it on my tablet, and I believe many nexus10 owners think the same.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
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It is highly desirable that Google implemented in the next version of Android (4.3 or 5.0) MULTI management of native to their Nexus devices.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
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Cornerstone was stopped by Google because it supposedly caused lots of issues
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I know they did. I said they intervened.
CM tried to but Google stopped them. It was mostly due to the integrity of app Window resizing.
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