Root or No Root - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Quick question guys,
Getting my c6833 Monday.
Ive been using the Note1 for the last year and a half. The phone is rooted. But frankly, i rooted the phone and never followed up on it. Hence i dont exactly know what are the advantages. I dont know any tweaks. I dont know any apps that requires root. I never installed any Roms to know how better the phone can run.
Can you share your opinions? Thx.

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Hey just a question, where did you order the C6833? I ordered from atgsm.com but it got backordered and I have to wait until next week despite using FedEx 2 Day Shipping. I paid 729.99 for the phone, a pretty sweet deal I'll say!
And are there any real differences in build quality/internals/speed/etc from the C6833 (INTERNATIONAL 4G LTE) vs. C6806 (US 4G LTE) ?
Thanks man appreciate it!!!

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Purple_Clouded said:
Hey just a question, where did you order the C6833? I ordered from atgsm.com but it got backordered and I have to wait until next week despite using FedEx 2 Day Shipping. I paid 729.99 for the phone, a pretty sweet deal I'll say!
And are there any real differences in build quality/internals/speed/etc from the C6833 (INTERNATIONAL 4G LTE) vs. C6806 (US 4G LTE) ?
Thanks man appreciate it!!!
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My understanding is..they all should be the same quality built, the only difference is the Lte chip set. I chose the 6833 because it will still works with tmobile. And i travel to Asia and Europe for work often. If you are with att, then dont get the 6833...get 6806 instead. Forget about the 6802.

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SundayDuffer said:
Quick question guys,
Getting my c6833 Monday.
Ive been using the Note1 for the last year and a half. The phone is rooted. But frankly, i rooted the phone and never followed up on it. Hence i dont exactly know what are the advantages. I dont know any tweaks. I dont know any apps that requires root. I never installed any Roms to know how better the phone can run.
Can you share your opinions? Thx.
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Rooting just gives you administrator access so you can mod system files or flash custom roms. I came from note 1 also. The issue with note 1 was:
A. Samsung bloat ware and touchwizz was awful. They didn't take into account the notes screen real estate and so out of the box a lot of people wanted to change the dpi to make use of the fantastic screen. Touchwizz didn't support custom dpi's which led most people to adding 3rd party launchers or flash custom roms instead.
B. Roms were slow so people were very attracted by custom roms.
Now this is probably going to cause some flames but Sony's launcher is very minimalistic. They've allowed for screen rotation with the launcher accepting that the phone is a true phablet. They've kept their additions very close to stock android. Personally I think it's a great job.
So, IMHO, custom roms like cm will not improve speed or memory like it does on other models. They'll only really serve to add new features that will likely take ages for Sony to implement if at all. So for now, I'd say there's no need to root.
Right, nuff said, start the bashing
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SpyderTracks said:
Rooting just gives you administrator access so you can mod system files or flash custom roms. I came from note 1 also. The issue with note 1 was:
A. Samsung bloat ware and touchwizz was awful. They didn't take into account the notes screen real estate and so out of the box a lot of people wanted to change the dpi to make use of the fantastic screen. Touchwizz didn't support custom dpi's which led most people to adding 3rd party launchers or flash custom roms instead.
B. Roms were slow so people were very attracted by custom roms.
Now this is probably going to cause some flames but Sony's launcher is very minimalistic. They've allowed for screen rotation with the launcher accepting that the phone is a true phablet. They've kept their additions very close to stock android. Personally I think it's a great job.
So, IMHO, custom roms like cm will not improve speed or memory like it does on other models. They'll only really serve to add new features that will likely take ages for Sony to implement if at all. So for now, I'd say there's no need to root.
Right, nuff said, start the bashing
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But it seems that the zu will comes with tons of bloatwares also. Also correct me if im wrong, the external sd card will only be good with music, movies, pics, and datas. The games downloads can only be installed within the internal hd. There are lots of games that requires lots of spaces. You can only assign their location if youre rooted.

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SundayDuffer said:
But it seems that the zu will comes with tons of bloatwares also. Also correct me if im wrong, the external sd card will only be good with music, movies, pics, and datas. The games downloads can only be installed within the internal hd. There are lots of games that requires lots of spaces. You can only assign their location if youre rooted.
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Mine only came with a few Sony apps installed which I was able to uninstall so I don't really consider that an issue and certainly not bloatware. They've added hardly anything to the actual os . Stock Google roms are around 150mb in size. Samsung upped this to 850mb... THAT'S bloatware!
Also anyone who installs more than 11gb of apps needs their head checked, but yeah, that is one area where you'll need root access.
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SpyderTracks said:
Mine only came with a few Sony apps installed which I was able to uninstall so I don't really consider that an issue and certainly not bloatware. They've added hardly anything to the actual os . Stock Google roms are around 150mb in size. Samsung upped this to 850mb... THAT'S bloatware!
Also anyone who installs more than 11gb of apps needs their head checked, but yeah, that is one area where you'll need root access.
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Good to know. Thx.

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I still use my Note (1) (still waiting for my C6833), and i'm rooted and running CM 10.1. Root was essential to have a couple of years ago, but it's not that big of a deal today if you're happy with the device "out of the box". I'll root my Ultra just to have root. I don't really use that many root apps or features, but the ones i use are very handy.
- Nova Launcher Prime: Doesn't require root, but you'll be able to some additional stuff with it if you got root (hide statusbar etc.)
- Titanium Backup: Backup apps and system apps to the SD-card/Internal storage. Also allows you to delete/freeze system apps.
- Solid Explorer (or any file explorer w/root access): Delete/Move/Copy system files, like manually deleting apps (bloatware), editing the build.prop and so on.
Other than those, i don't really use other root apps. I'm running CM though, so that itself requires root, so i guess i'm permanently in a rooted state. The only reason i'll root the Ultra is to be able to manually delete system files and edit the build.prop, and i guess i'll flash a custom ROM on it down the road, when i'm sick and tired of "the Sony experience".
If you're not an advanced user, or don't want/need to remove system files, then it's not necessary for you to root at all.

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If person asking a question about "root or not root"
I'll recommending you to not root.
What about me.... I can't leave normally with out root option. I starting to have a nightmares and I don't eat well....after root all my problems disappear

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I'm a heavy user of apps that require root as I want to be in charge of my device. And yes I will immediately root my Z ultra when I get it on Monday! (yeayy it came in stock this morning)
Adaway- remove ads in every app (even removes youtube commercials)
Cache cleaner NG goes of 5.am
Droidwall -Firewall
Lagfix premium -just a simple TRIM trigger goes off 5:02 am
MyBackup Pro -backup of all my app data, sms and so on
Root explorer -a file manager (I use this every day)
Terminal -the name says it all
Seeder -...i dunno. But it makes my phone as fast as a F1 car :silly:
Dumpster -to save received snapchat videos
Xposed -many tweaks and mods
There's probably more that I'm missing but I use these apps almost/or every day
But as for you. Ask yourself if you need any of this or feel the hunger to experiment... if not then leave the phone as it is.

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SÜPERUSER said:
I'm a heavy user of apps that require root as I want to be in charge of my device. And yes I will immediately root my Z ultra when I get it on Monday! (yeayy it came in stock this morning)
Adaway- remove ads in every app (even removes youtube commercials)
Cache cleaner NG goes of 5.am
Droidwall -Firewall
Lagfix premium -just a simple TRIM trigger goes off 5:02 am
MyBackup Pro -backup of all my app data, sms and so on
Root explorer -a file manager (I use this every day)
Terminal -the name says it all
Seeder -...i dunno. But it makes my phone as fast as a F1 car :silly:
Dumpster -to save received snapchat videos
Xposed -many tweaks and mods
There's probably more that I'm missing but I use these apps almost/or every day
But as for you. Ask yourself if you need any of this or feel the hunger to experiment... if not then leave the phone as it is.
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I forgot to mention that i'm also using AdAway.
But.. i don't understand why you're using "Lagfix"? I know all about fstrim, and it's implemented by default in Android 4.3, but it shouldn't be necessary on a brand new device running a Snapdragon 800. It can be useful on some older hardware, or if your internal storage is of bad quality (read: Nexus 7 2012). The other one is "Seeder", which was debunked by our in-house Elite developer, Entropy. It's all placebo.

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LordManhattan said:
I forgot to mention that i'm also using AdAway.
But.. i don't understand why you're using "Lagfix"? I know all about fstrim, and it's implemented by default in Android 4.3, but it shouldn't be necessary on a brand new device running a Snapdragon 800. It can be useful on some older hardware, or if your internal storage is of bad quality (read: Nexus 7 2012). The other one is "Seeder", which was debunked by our in-house Elite developer, Entropy. It's all placebo.
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This is the apps I use on my HOX.. I can not say anything about the snapdragon 800 yet as I don't have a device in my hand.

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SÜPERUSER said:
This is the apps I use on my HOX..
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LordManhattan said:
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LOL...
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SpyderTracks said:
LOL...
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Yeah, I should've read his comment again before posting
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SpyderTracks said:
Rooting just gives you administrator access so you can mod system files or flash custom roms. I came from note 1 also. The issue with note 1 was:
A. Samsung bloat ware and touchwizz was awful. They didn't take into account the notes screen real estate and so out of the box a lot of people wanted to change the dpi to make use of the fantastic screen. Touchwizz didn't support custom dpi's which led most people to adding 3rd party launchers or flash custom roms instead.
B. Roms were slow so people were very attracted by custom roms.
Now this is probably going to cause some flames but Sony's launcher is very minimalistic. They've allowed for screen rotation with the launcher accepting that the phone is a true phablet. They've kept their additions very close to stock android. Personally I think it's a great job.
So, IMHO, custom roms like cm will not improve speed or memory like it does on other models. They'll only really serve to add new features that will likely take ages for Sony to implement if at all. So for now, I'd say there's no need to root.
Right, nuff said, start the bashing
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Well put
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