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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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natefish said:
I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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Maybe I will try flashing stock if I have time today. I reset my battery stats in recovery mode when I took the phone off the charger this morning, so we'll see how today goes.
I looked into the widgets and the only one that refreshes data on a schedule is the clock/weather. I'll try a different one or just not use the weather.
Great tip about Chrome. Didn't know it did that.
Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
Thanks again for the help.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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settings>battery>click on the gray use bar & you can see screen on time.
It is because you are running touchjizz. Cm and aokp are the best :highfive:
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Never mind! Just searched" CPU sleeper" on the Play store and--voila!
On another note, I'm so glad I got a device with a huge support community. Coming from iOS, it's nice to feel part of a collective effort again and get such great advice. I know there are a lot of iOS forums and there is some great work done through those communities, but those seem so trivial compared to what is done through XDA and the level of helpfulness is unparalleled here.
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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natefish said:
Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I've applied all the tricks folks have shared here and have flashed the Diet ICS rom. I am going to take screen shots of my usage data on a daily basis and see how things fair. I'll post my results here. Here is one from last night before really getting into all the tricks and the new rom. So, maybe this is my "before" shot in this documentary of a noob's journey to better battery life.
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natefish said:
I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
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Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
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CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
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I am using CPU Sleeper now, thanks to the advice of a previous poster on page 1. Good to hear it works for others.
I had the SGS2 as well and the S3 is definitely better.
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Hi all,
I also notice this and this were the steps that I did and seems to help me to reduce this process to like 5 %. I'm on Sprint S3 but should be the same for the all carriers.
Go ahead and open Talk application. You should see your account in green (I'm not using this application) then hit the menu and then select sigh Off. Make sure that your account changes to Offline (sometimes it is change back it self so open one more time make sure that it says Offline). Then what else I change is in wi-fi advanced options: under Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep I choose Only when plugged in option. then I reboot the phone and from now on (almost 2 days) my Android system process show up only 5% of usage and my battery life improve significantly. I hope this will helps.
Thanks
Those are great tips. Thanks. I will say I've gotten increasingly better life since employing other tips discussed here.
Something else I did was download a profile changing app. I got Quick Profiles, but anything should do. If anyone uses anything better, please share. I have a profile for power saving that turns down my brightness, and turns off wifi and Bluetooth. The app will let you put shortcuts on the home screen to instantly change the profile. I'd like to find one, however, that will also turn off gps and mobile data.
Dear Brothers & Sisters,
My new Xperia Sola's battery drop 5% per hour without any use. 3G data is on, but background data is off (as i have started the power save mode).
Background running app only facebook and whatapps, is it normal that battery drop 5% per hour with screen off ?
Thanks!
doesnt matter if backdround data is off, facebook WILL try to update the timeline in the cycle you've set it to. so yea pretty normal to me as the sola doesnt have a huge battery.
Same problem here too!
Even if you don't use your phone still the battery drops almost at a constant rate of 4% to 6% and that is very annoying. Hoping Sony would fix this issue with their next OS update.
But sola users have an extreme advantage of fast charging. Sola charges itself about 12% in hardly 10mins. Thats the better part
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Hey guys,
5% an hour is 20 hours. to me that is pretty dam good. i used to get about 16 - 18 out of my arc S. with everything on.
Your Data connection is a mega killer weather or not you have background data on or not. it is the connection to the tower that drains the battery.
my arc is now just a phone for work and without the 3g on I get over a week out of it.
we all need to remember that these phones are not like the old nokia's and stuff. modern phones need modern charging habits
Pvy.
You shoud deactivate LiveWare widgets and services because it consumes a huge amount of power. Sometimes I get even +48 hours of standby on my Xperia U.
Try this out! It worked for me!
Okay! I fiddled with my phone a bit to improve battery life and it did work!
Go to settings> Applications> running
check the applications using a lot of RAM and has been using the phones active state for long time. Delete those useless apps. Also apps which connect to the internet uselessly consume a lot of battery!
It worked for me! Now my phone discharges just about 2-3% in 6 hours. Its because earlier my phone wasnt going into deep sleep mode where it consumes the least battery!
Now its battery standby has boosted up a lot!.
I'm happy now!
Try and tell me whether it worked for you guys or not!
Yeah. Disable Bravia display, reduce brightness, switch off data and WiFi, kill useless running background apps, disable widgets. I lose 2% battery in 6 hours in standby mode. I do these before sleeping and its damn effective. Also root ur phone n install autokiller memory optimizer and set aggressive values. This enhances phone speed and also battery is improved
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aadaars said:
Yeah. Disable Bravia display, reduce brightness, switch off data and WiFi, kill useless running background apps, disable widgets. I lose 2% battery in 6 hours in standby mode. I do these before sleeping and its damn effective. Also root ur phone n install autokiller memory optimizer and set aggressive values. This enhances phone speed and also battery is improved
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And then you actually have a dump-non-xperia phone...
anyway, thank you for the solution....
alevana said:
And then you actually have a dump-non-xperia phone...
anyway, thank you for the solution....
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just do it before sleeping and enable all these once u wake up
Thats what i do
Turn off all the stuff to save battery...then why do i use a smartphone?But thanks anyway...
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There is a better solution ...... turn off your phone.:silly:
I can't understand people that buy smartphones, and then they turn off all things thats makes phone to be smartphone.
promi said:
There is a better solution ...... turn off your phone.:silly:
I can't understand people that buy smartphones, and then they turn off all things thats makes phone to be smartphone.
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cant u guys read??i said turn off while u sleep to save battery
hoyinboy said:
Turn off all the stuff to save battery...then why do i use a smartphone?But thanks anyway...
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Well the smart thing to do is to turn on the extra stuff only when needed. It's still a smartphone even when gps is turned off for example
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I installed the Xiam/Qualcomm Snapdragon Battery Guru app recently:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
it seems to work well on my XZU.
I'm not convinced it's making a huge difference to battery life, but it seems to be an improvement in the three days its been active.
more info on it here:
https://www.xiam.com/faqs-snapdragon-battery-guru
is anyone else using it?
I'm using it for two days now. It says battery saving should start in 1 Day 15 hours.
So wait and see .
My question is do i have to disable Stamina mode ???
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I installed the Xiam/Qualcomm Snapdragon Battery Guru app recently:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
it seems to work well on my XZU.
I'm not convinced it's making a huge difference to battery life, but it seems to be an improvement in the three days its been active.
more info on it here:
https://www.xiam.com/faqs-snapdragon-battery-guru
is anyone else using it?
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Tried it in the past, didn't noticed any difference. The thing with smartphones in general is when you're standby and don't touch the device you get good battery life. At the moment you touch the device your battery is going to be sucked dry.
Huge screen to illuminate, processors toggling up (we do want immediate response), apps are updated. And the phone is then only active. When you start using the smartphone then it goes really fast, games, movies, internet, thetering and so on.
When i'm "using" the phone at home i often put it on the charger. Sometimes i receive the message, "phone using more energy then receiving".
When you want battery life, use nokia 3310. Excellent for calling and opening beers. When you want your entire pc in a pocket, deal with the limitations of the battery.
Id have to agree, I used it on my nexus 4 and there was no difference in battery life
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Guys, I have never tried Battery Guru, but I use 2x Battery and I have to say that it works great. It not only enables/disabled network access automatically, but it also has a screen filter. It it's the closest thing to Juice Defender, which was quite popular a while ago.
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That's exactly what I use, I find that it works only about 50% of the time and does what stamina mode is meant to do
J
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yeah been there done that...
LNIK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506043
didn't do anything that we could see.
Perhaps on a device that doesn't have 'stamina' mode it would be better.
Hello everyone,
I just want to share my experience with this app.
I have the Ultra for months now, i'm a heavy user, i tried a few customs roms and i'm now on stock 290. I've never been able to get more than 4h30 of screen time but usually around 4 hours, stamina mode ON, and tried a few third party app. Couldn't notice any improvements. I'm also using Greenify.
Note: Whatsapp, dropbox, google + are always allowed to run in background because i need them
So i downloaded Snapdragon batteryguru 4 days ago and it said i have to wait 4 days so that it learns my phone behaviors . I have to admit i was quite sceptical
I got a notification yesterday telling me batteryGuru is ready to start extending my battery life.
And guess what i got 2 extra hours of screen time ! :laugh:
Stamina mode is still enabled, low power mode disabled , wifi ON, LTE ON ( yep makes no sense if i'm on wifi but i' m too lazy to deactivate it lol ), bluetooth and GPS ON when i need it , brightness at 100 % most of the time except at night .
BatteryGuru low power mode disabled too.
I have no idea what it does to improve my battery, i know some of you can reach 7 hours without any app or stamina mode, but it all depends on how you use your smartphone and for my usage, 4 hours seems normal.
So i got 6h 14m of screen time now and of course i'm happy
Average users may not see any improvement but i recommend heavy users to give it a try :good:
Hi my battery seems to be busted.
Its draining fast and here is a screenshot of a fully charged phone.
My battery wont even last 12hrs.
Can someone tell me if this is normal?
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exdas said:
Hi my battery seems to be busted.
Its draining fast and here is a screenshot of a fully charged phone.
My battery wont even last 12hrs.
Can someone tell me if this is normal?
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That seems really low unless you've been constantly using the screen with some really really intensive apps. But, in general that ain't normal. Can you scroll down and click battery usage so we get more info?
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That seems pretty low unless you've been constantly using the screen. Can you scroll down and click battery usage so we get more info?
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Here are my stats SINCE i posted the thread.
Abysmal ly high drain as you can see
To be fair. This is a new phone but i wouldnt think this would be at this level of drain.
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Try to check your app settings, email, fb-twitter, weather sync etc. Helped me a lot also stamina mode should increase battery life by a big margin
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Definitively you should make a few hours trial without those apps working in background, also take a look into usage data - then you will sure if it is soft- or hard-ware problem.
I found that on my phone, Chrome Beta prevents it from entering Deep Sleep. As soon as I uninstalled this app, the phone could enter Deep Sleep and the unusually high battery drain was gone.
Hi guys,
I have been here a while, tried few ROMs but I can't decide and that's why I am asking for an advice. Which ROM is better in a battery life? I am using stock 4.4.4 right now with stamina on, and I hardly get 3,5-4hrs of onscreen time. I am using a smartband which is connected all the time via bluetooth and I am aware that it may use some battery, but still it is very disappointing. I've checked my wakelocks many times and nothing suspicious was found so I am seeking a different solution.
The question is:
Is GPe better? How much of onscreen time do you have without using any batter savers like DS Battery, or 2x Battery? I tried to use GPe ROM once but I was paranoid and thought that I have kind of a battery drain.
Usually the Sony rom has better battery life. For me at least. I get an average of 5 hours screen time or more, without stamina mode. I don't use a smartband though so i can't say anything about that. GPe rom had worse battery for me, anyway. Especially the standby time is far better on stock Sony. 4-5% drain overnight vs barely 1% drain overnight. I pick stock Sony for better battery
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Usually the Sony rom has better battery life. For me at least. I get an average of 5 hours screen time or more, without stamina mode. I don't use a smartband though so i can't say anything about that. GPe rom had worse battery for me, anyway. Especially the standby time is far better on stock Sony. 4-5% drain overnight vs barely 1% drain overnight. I pick stock Sony for better battery
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Thanks for your input. I have an 4-5% overnight drop on stock, so I assume that smartband with its advertised BT 4.0 LE isn't as easy on battery as I thought.
It all depends on what you're doing with your Ultra, and what type of apps you're using.
I can squeeze out around 6 hours of screen time if I feel like it, but I normally get around 5 hours on a regular day. I don't really play games (maybe a couple of minutes of Threes), but I use Hangouts, read a lot of news (using Press) and reading some more using Pocket and Google Books.
I don't know what type of smartband you're using, but KitKat supports BLE (Low Energy Bluetooth), so be sure that your smartband also supports it, so it doesn't run on "regular" full powered Bluetooth. BLE uses very little battery and you shouldn't really notice any major shifts in battery usage by using it.
Are you using an IM app like Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp or Snapchat? These types of apps are known to drain batteries like crazy.
I'm running the GPe ROM BTW. Keep in mind that your battery life won't be good after flashing a new ROM. It'll need a couple of charges again, so be sure to completely drain your battery to 0% after flashing, and charge it up to 100% before removing it from the charger (to calibrate the internal battery monitor).
I am not a big gamer also, I very rarely play games. Mainly I am reading xda and news on the internet like you.
I use Sony Smartband and it supports LE, but after reading your post I realized that the app which downloads and process the data from it may be a battery hogger (Lifelog app).
Yeah, I have WhatsApp installed but use it rather occasionaly and when it comes to battery calibration, I try to recalibrate it by draining it to 0% almost everytime.
What brightness settings guys are you using?
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I am not a big gamer also, I very rarely play games. Mainly I am reading xda and news on the internet like you.
I use Sony Smartband and it supports LE, but after reading your post I realized that the app which downloads and process the data from it may be a battery hogger (Lifelog app).
Yeah, I have WhatsApp installed but use it rather occasionaly and when it comes to battery calibration, I try to recalibrate it by draining it to 0% almost everytime.
What brightness settings guys are you using?
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Try not to drain the battery completely every day. Put it on the charger before it turns itself off, or else you risk damaging the battery cells down the road. It's fine to do it a couple of times a month though. I use auto-brightness, so I guess it's around 50-60% most of the time. I have it at 100% when i'm out in the sun though.
Oh and there's no point in using battery savers. They tend to decrease battery life for me i usually keep the brightness fixed at 70% and i constantly use Viber and Whatsapp. Yet a 1% drain overnight without Stamina mode. So i guess the problem lies with your Lifelog app
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Thanks for all advices guys.
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I am on the GPe 4.4.4 ROM with DoomKernel v20, DS Battery Saver and Greenify. The drain with WiFi on is around 0.9% per hour in standby, screen on time lies somewhere between 5-6 hours.
As a reference, I recently flashed my Xperia Z with Ultimate PureX stock based ROM (I use that device mostly as a camera with QX10 and for experiments). When I compare those two, I prefer GPe.
I feel that the combination of Google/Sony vanilla and Sony apps together with Xposed Framework gives a better experience, especially with the Ultra 240 DPI phablet mode. The Sony ROMs based on 4.4.x break the notification bar on 240 DPI, unfortunately (at least Monxdified based on .757).
It is worth to mention that the GPe ROM can be equipped with Sony Album, Clock, Movies, Notes, Sketch and Walkman etc - even Sony launchers are available for it. So it is possible to get a vanilla experience with great Sony apps on the side, without having to go back to a Sony based ROM.
On the other hand: If there's confirmation that the "240 DPI breaks the notification bar" problem has been solved in .108 - it would be great. To me, the Ultra needs 240 DPI phablet mode in order to be really enjoyable.