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Hey there. I rooted my x10 mini pro today, worked like a charm. But then I started (Quite stupidly) downloading a load of root-orientated apps from the market and I think one may have flashed my phone... But not properly. (Yeah I know, I should pay more attention.)
Anyway, the point is, my phone's kinda bricked. Instead of the standard homescreen; when I turn it on it's just some bad quality blueish background... with no buttons or widgets... And the fonts are now twice the original size. So there's no way of getting to any apps or settings etc. Also, on startup I get a few messages saying some processes have died a horrible death and the only option is to "force close" such processes. I once miraculously managed to get the homescreen back up briefly and stumble my way to the settings to do a reset, seemed to be working but I realised that when my phone booted back up it had just the same problems.
Yes, I've tried using PC Companion but the useless piece of [Insert profanity] claims it can't find the update and patronizingly asks me if I'm connected to the internet. Which I quite frankly am, so it can shove it's error code up it's bumhole. Both the "Repair" and "Update" options don't work.
So, the point of my rambling is that it'd be very kind of anyone who bothered to read all that to inform me of any way of doing a force restore on my x10 through some other method than PC Companion... Possibly through the Android SDK commands via command prompt like the methods used to actually root this thing.
I apologize for probably not making any sense, but it's 3:20 am and I've been trying to fix my phone for 5 hours and have seriously considered sticking my head in the oven.
Oh, if it helps, another way I might have bricked it is by following forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743800 without knowing much about that ADB stuff. I know, call me an idiot, but I usually get out of these situations on my own. Wow. Haven't posted on a forum for ages.
Well ignoring my apparent agression, any help would be really appreciated and I'd owe you a beer.
Also, it's worth mentioning that I've tried flashing with Omnius and DavinciTeam to fix the problem and neither worked, but then again I don't know much about how to flash.
Well anyway I'm going to sleep now, had enough of staying awake staring at overly large fonted errors on my phone. Did that make sense? I'll be up in... 11 hours maybe. Then I'll see if any kind person has replied, and give them a cookie for the effort.
I talk nonsense when I'm tired, I really do.
You could try to 'debrand' your phone and then use the repair button @ pc companion. Look for the debrand topic started by SaintyUK.
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
Rylo said:
You could try to 'debrand' your phone and then use the repair button @ pc companion. Look for the debrand topic started by SaintyUK.
Sent from my U20i using XDA App
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Thanks for the reply, but I cannot do that as it requires the phone to be in usb debug mode... I can't get it into that mode because I can't get into settings on my phone. Unless you know of any external way of getting the phone into debug mode?
i don't know how to get your telephone in usb debug mode.
Which firmware are you running atm?
And which root method did you use etc.
Just try to provide as much info as possible, might help other people brainstorm aswell.
You could try a reinstall of pc companion and try to repair it after that.
Rylo said:
i don't know how to get your telephone in usb debug mode.
Which firmware are you running atm?
And which root method did you use etc.
Just try to provide as much info as possible, might help other people brainstorm aswell.
You could try a reinstall of pc companion and try to repair it after that.
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Usb debug mode is needed for any ADB commands (Which you need for debranding and the method of rooting I used.)
I used the method I found here: android.doshaska.net/x10miniroot to root the phone.
I have tried to reinstall pc companion, 3 times now, and I still get the same error. If you like I could take a screenshot of the error?
Thanks for the reply.
Edit: Oh, and I'm not sure what firmware version I'm using. It was fully updated recently and was running Android 1.6 if that helps?
I had a similar problem with my PC Companion when I bricked my Mini Pro, it just would not download the firmware to reflash it. I wonder if there is a way to trick it into looking on your computer for it like when you jailbreak an iPhone? I ended up using DaVinci to reflash mine, it cost 10 Euro but worked a treat.
Yeah Jailbreaking is incredibly easy compared to rooting, but that's 'cause it's been around much longer I remember in the early days with my iPod touch 1G before the Appstore even existed, the Jailbreak method was just as difficult as rooting.
Another reason why it's easier to Jailbreak is because iTunes lets you choose the file to restore from (Common method of Jailbreaking) while PC Companion doesn't, as you pointed out.
Maybe there's away to edit the hosts file in windows so that PC Companion looks somewhere else for the file (So you can choose a flashed firmware) rather than the Sony Ericsson servers. I don't know xD Just guessing.
Anyway, I'd prefer not to pay out so I'd rather not use DaVinci. Omnius works in pretty much the same way, and it's free, but gives me errors.
I really am not sure if this works or helps, but pressing the HOME and Power Button togethar is "supposed" to Hard Reset the x10 mini. Might help.
I've rooted my phone the same and debranded. I meant that i dont know how to get your phone into USB debug mode in any other then through settings.
I'm kinda out of idea's and since there is so little response i doubt anyone knows what to do at the moment. So i suggest you provide as much information as possible so all those who are trying to help can brainstorm together .
As it seems, DaVinci could work, so at least you have some sort of backup if everything else fails. i don't think your telephone is completely lost anyway, you can get the phone to boot right? Only you can't actually navigate to.. anything/anywhere on the phone UI right?
You can provide a SS, it might help^^
Confused_Geek said:
I really am not sure if this works or helps, but pressing the HOME and Power Button togethar is "supposed" to Hard Reset the x10 mini. Might help.
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I already tried that It's supposedly meant to soft reset, I've heard, but doesn't seem to do anything. Thanks anyway.
Rylo said:
I've rooted my phone the same and debranded. I meant that i dont know how to get your phone into USB debug mode in any other then through settings.
I'm kinda out of idea's and since there is so little response i doubt anyone knows what to do at the moment. So i suggest you provide as much information as possible so all those who are trying to help can brainstorm together .
As it seems, DaVinci could work, so at least you have some sort of backup if everything else fails. i don't think your telephone is completely lost anyway, you can get the phone to boot right? Only you can't actually navigate to.. anything/anywhere on the phone UI right?
You can provide a SS, it might help^^
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I'm not sure I can think of any more information to provide, but if I manage to find out anything (Like that firmware version), I'll post it.
And yes that is a good point, atleast there's a method of restoring if all else fails, which is good.
Oh and what's an SS?
i don't think your telephone is completely lost anyway, you can get the phone to boot right? Only you can't actually navigate to.. anything/anywhere on the phone UI right?
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Yeah that's right. Well, almost, I can get into the notification tray... But there's only one notification that appears there, which is about Data roaming, so I can get into data roaming settings through that but no other settings
It may be worthwhile to point out again that the font sizes seem unusually large... May be a pointer to what went wrong?
Well thanks everyone anyway, I'll keep you updated.
Right, I gave in, using DavinciTeam's software and I've bought 10 credits.
I thought I'd post this incase someone else has had the same problem and didn't want to pay, it gave me some nice details:
ChipClass: MSM7227
Model: U20
Cert: 0001 / Red
OTP: 0001 / Red
CDA: 1238-0199
SW Version: 1235-3411 1.2.A.1.174
Language: WORLD-1-8 1.2.A.1.174
So I'm guessing my firmware version is 1.2.A.1.174
I'll tell you how the restore goes
Edit: Heh... Probably shouldn't have given you that IMEI number. Just incase. It's removed now.
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Heh... Probably shouldn't have given you that IMEI number. Just incase. It's removed now.
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Awwww you removed it? missed it by that much then!
And yes, I'd be interested to know how the DaVinci reset goes
In the lockscreen can you access the service menu?: you can access this menu by pressing, menu, back, back, menu, back, menu, menu, back.
Hopefully the restore goes well. Next time leave your phone in USB debug mode
DaVinci worked a charm. No problems at all. And very quick (Infact it finished just after my last post, but then I had to go out :L) But now it's not rooted ): Ah well, rooting isn't difficult I'll do it again right now. Anyway, so glad to have my phone working again xD rooted or not. Cost me £8.59 but was worth it. I only wish that there was a free clone of the DavinciTeam services. Well there is, but I mean one that worked xD
For anyone that needs to use DavinciTeam's services; there's no x10 mini pro option on the site, but x10 mini works fine (Even though the firmware version says E20i rather than U20i, but that didn't seem to matter).
@Rylo: Haha yes, I'll remember to do that next time I did last time... but then accidentally disabled it -.- oh well.
Thankyou so much for your help everyone. I owe everyone who replied a beer. Especially bingobadgo, for pointing out I could use DavinciTeam's services, and Rylo for generally being very helpful and replying to nearly everything xD
Probably wouldn't have a working phone right now if it weren't for you guys
Now, to Root again, and this time I'll be more careful xD
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I owe everyone who replied a beer.
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Sweetest thing I heard all day
Good to hear the phone is up and running. I'd flip like a turtle if that happened to me, considering I almost survive office hours on the phone!
*Hands Confused_Geek a beer*
Yes, it's very nice to have my phone running again xD And haha yup, smartphone's can be great distractions at work ;P
Anyway, phone's rooted again, any root apps you'd reccommend? And also, how do you enable the ability to install any app on the market regardless of what my network wants me to install? xD I thought rooting did that automatically, I was wrong
short reply, i'm in a hurry:
Marketacces/Marketfix
or
APKtor/APtoide, i thnk this program is for pirated APK's but it can also be used to install apps that aren't available since the x10 got a low res.
You'll have to use google to find repo's tho'
rooted apps i recommend: advanced taskkiller, root explorer, titanium backup (install busybox from titanium if it doesnt work, *help>install busybox), appbrain+fastweb installer, picme and shootme (for screenshots), Pingchat (you can message to android, blackberry and iphone users, www.pingchat.com, needs interwebz) last but not least >> XDA app << hmm the last few aren't rooted apps xD just regular apps ;p but still good! oh and install handcent sms for texting.
have fun!
Solution was right under your nose if you followed the instructions properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749438
Thankyou Rylo for your post and PM, been downloading loads of rooted apps with APKtor
Do you need that Marketfix? Cause MarketAccess works fine... Though I can't seem to find the benefit of changing countries at the moment, that's not quite what I wanted so I guess Marketfix does what I wanted? Unless there's a country that has access to ALL apps?
Thanks anyway, those... repositories you mentioned in the PM are great Saved me some money on some apps Like Genoid (Great btw, I have nearly every sega megadrive game on my phone now )
Solution was right under your nose if you followed the instructions properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749438
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I tried that, several times, didn't work for me. Those key combinations did nothing and I tried following the rest of the instruction regardless of that fact, but still came up with the same errors. Maybe that fix only works with specific PC Companion errors? I did look around everywhere before I posted this article, incase you think otherwise
Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy. Best to just learn. Watch some YouTube videos. Be careful. Have fun.
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Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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You missed the part in the OP about not having the proper tools. No amount of reading or studying or preparing can help when the tool is made for Windows and you're running a Mac (or no computer at all).
OP -- I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who do (or would help you with) flashing ROMs but a lot of that is going to depend on where you live. Best bet: Craigslist and see if you can find someone in the Cell Phones section who does that. Denver (yes... where I am) has a ton of shops that will flash custom ROMs for you - but of course they want you to pay for the privilege.
However - I would really recommend finding someone local and trustworthy. Don't EVER send someone your device, because let's be honest - you'll most likely never see it again unless you're sending it to a real business.
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Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
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First....start off at YouTube, and watch people root the Nexus One over ADB. You'll learn a few tricks...but most importantly, you'll learn your way around the device manager and the command prompt in windows. While it may seem daunting at first...there are only a few commands you'll need to learn.
That solves the problem you'd have with rooting and installing Clockwork Mod (the basis for flashing any new ROMs.
Lastly...if you can find a valid windows installation (or you can even use a 90 day trial version of windows 7 enterprise) you'll want to install boot camp on your Mac...which allows you to run windows on your Mac. Easily.
By no means am I an android powerhouse, but I do work in IT and am handy with a device manager, various hosts, and windows and Mac.
The next best option would be to offer someone here 10-20 bucks to show you over Skype, or do it for you using go to meeting.
Remember 1 thing. Its actually hard to brick a device if you do a few things.
Only flash RC or final versions of ROMs. In general. These have been THOUROUGHLY tested. The more feedback for a ROM the better. Learn to search threads here frequently.
Don't go about customizing the software by flashing mods (until your more comfortable). Android provides a perfect host system for providing customization via the Play store. Widgets...toggles...backgrounds. Notification tweaks, and almost everything else you'll need can be found on the play store and easily uninstalled.
Lastly...always keep a backup of you're system
via Nandroid, and keep a backup of your apps with Titanium backup.
If you have any more questions....feel free to ask them here or PM me.
You can start by researching "how to do a Nandroid" and "what is clockwork recovery mod" in your favorite search engine.
If you think you can follow the simple steps of performing a Nandroid and you can find your way around Clockwork Recovery Mod....there really isn't much to worry about.
Bricking your device can usually be fixed in the case of a soft brick or boot loop. The real bricking usually happens when you flash software meant for another device, or don't follow instructions.
Once you've flashed your first ROM...you'll find that the process is remarkably similar for all mods ROMs and other packages.
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Now that sounds like a plan. Hmmm. Maybe I can do this myself. Now I need to find a stock stable ICS with NFC enabled. Even better would be one to take advantage of the radio hidden by AT&T. It would be nice to have the option to pop and flop.
Exactly. Once the initial root and new recovery menu is done then you are set. Between a CWM nandroid, Titanium Backup, MybackupPro, and even Appsaver your only real limitation is set by how large your external sdcard is.
You can even use online storage sites like Minus, Google Drive, Drop Box etc to host all of the files so that you can access them anywhere.
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
I am running Flapjaxx Unofficial ICS and it is super smooth. I plan on switching to his latest though once it is finished downloading.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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+1 on any Flappjaxxx ROM btw. So you pull your external sd? Have you ever had an issue or is it just a precaution?
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bmstrong said:
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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Yeah. I use both Drive and Dropbox, so no worries. The larger question I have is why do I need to back some of this stuff up? I've never been a big application guy. This Note has 4? Maybe 5 apps on it, aside from the stock Google services. SMS/MMS get deleted instantly or saved into the Cloud. And email moved with my Gmail account and that gets barfed back into each Mobile I use very easily.
Titanium backup seems like a pain in the ass. All I'm after is a clean stock ICS build, a way to shut off the hard keys and replace them with soft buttons, and that MHL works. Turning this Note into a portable LTE MHL Chromebox with a fantastic screen. The option to flop and plop would be nice...
you dont have to back up, but personally i would like to have my own personal backup of stock. of course there are stock odins around here. but in your situation it might be more handy on the cloud to access anytime. you might want to use the back up to flash back to for when they release ics over the air.
Service makes some sense
If you've read many of the questions that some poeple ask on these forums, it really makes me think that certain people really shouldn't be trying some of these things themselves. Most of us have no problem reading and understanding rudimentary steps to get us going, but some people come in with little to no foundation in these matters; what we're saying really is Greek to them. I feel bad, but for these people, I encourage them to seek out someone that knows, at least on a basic level, what they are doing.
I've written looooong, detailed tutorials for people and I'm glad to do it. But sometimes even after that, I get the feeling that these people will still end up messing their phones up. I've been proven right on at least two occasion and I can't help but feel bad... So maybe a pool of people in each area capable and willing to do these kinds of things might make sense. Haven't thought through how that would work, but maybe. Hmmm...
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Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
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Im using team perfections ics ucle2 objection with rc1 its great as well as fj's
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Extremely interesting process and results. I still have a host of questions, why certain things are done in a certain order, what exactly some of the things do that I did, and why when I did not make a back up of anything, it said specifically that it failed, some of my apps and vids are still here in the new FJ ROM. Just a fasincinating first time experience from someone who has always used stock Nexi. The ROM isn't really my taste, I hate Apex and there is bloat apps in it. But!
I feel like the old Quantum Leap show...
You can debloat with tibu. Also, you can use any launcher you want.
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I'm finally rooting my phone after months of messing about waiting for an unlock
My phone is international model i9300 and I've been reading this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Looks really good, well detailed should be very easy with the help of chainfire!
But I've still got a few questions
1) I think I can't back up my phone until it's rooted to get access to the system files, am I right in thinking when I'm rooted I can use CWM to make a full back up of the phone?
2) Once it's rooted what is a thing that you must not do? The phone was expensive and as these threads may be annoying to all of you I just need to know before I do anything silly so apologies for all the topics
3) I'm going to wait until JB is released for official ROMs, when it comes to flashing a new ROM do I need to unroot the device?
4) Can I remove bloatware with just the standard root? The amount is ridiculous, it fills up 2 whole pages of apps and 95% of them I haven't used and don't plan on using, ever. I'm sure if I ever needed to there will be an app for it
5) any other advice on keeping my phone safe would be great, I am just really really cautious with this kind of stuff lol. Technology is really fussy I don't want to brick my phone
Thanks to everybody who posts, you guys have helped me so much since I joined and I really appreciate it
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I'm finally rooting my phone after months of messing about waiting for an unlock
My phone is international model i9300 and I've been reading this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Looks really good, well detailed should be very easy with the help of chainfire!
But I've still got a few questions
1) I think I can't back up my phone until it's rooted to get access to the system files, am I right in thinking when I'm rooted I can use CWM to make a full back up of the phone?
2) Once it's rooted what is a thing that you must not do? The phone was expensive and as these threads may be annoying to all of you I just need to know before I do anything silly so apologies for all the topics
3) I'm going to wait until JB is released for official ROMs, when it comes to flashing a new ROM do I need to unroot the device?
4) any other advice on keeping my phone safe would be great, I am just really really cautious with this kind of stuff lol. Technology is really fussy I don't want to brick my phone
Thanks to everybody who posts, you guys have helped me so much since I joined and I really appreciate it
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Answer 1: Check the link in my description (Win 8 -help) and download the adb executables. Then (Using Windows 7/8) Press and hold shift + Right mouse button in the folder and open cmd.
Once in cmd type:
Code:
adb start-server
adb devices (To check if your phone is connected properly)
adb backup -f %Userprofile%\Desktop\ADBackup\backup.ab -apk -nosystem -noshared -all
That will backup your user apps, incase you do do something wrong
Answer 2: Yes, there are a few things you shouldn't do;
Flash a ROM without making a backup
Deleting partitons in the phones' root.
Deleting system apps (APKs), when you don't know what they do, or even what they are.
Flashing a ROM/kernel, that wasn't made for your phone.
Overclocking/undervolting your phone too much.
And there are a couple more, but I don't want to waist your time ^^
Answer 3: JB is already released. No, you don't have to unroot your phone, before flashing. In fact, you probably can't, because you need the recovery program, to flash the ROM.
Answer 4: Don't flash bad stuff, don't install apps, that are reported (i.e. viruses) don't flash ROMs and kernels, that aren't for your device. And last but not least: Only use Odin, if you really have to!
Hope I could help!
UrbanDesigns said:
I'm finally rooting my phone after months of messing about waiting for an unlock
My phone is international model i9300 and I've been reading this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Looks really good, well detailed should be very easy with the help of chainfire!
But I've still got a few questions
1) I think I can't back up my phone until it's rooted to get access to the system files, am I right in thinking when I'm rooted I can use CWM to make a full back up of the phone?
2) Once it's rooted what is a thing that you must not do? The phone was expensive and as these threads may be annoying to all of you I just need to know before I do anything silly so apologies for all the topics
3) I'm going to wait until JB is released for official ROMs, when it comes to flashing a new ROM do I need to unroot the device?
4) any other advice on keeping my phone safe would be great, I am just really really cautious with this kind of stuff lol. Technology is really fussy I don't want to brick my phone
Thanks to everybody who posts, you guys have helped me so much since I joined and I really appreciate it
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1) You are right
2) Do not unroot
3) Official JB is already available. Flashing using odin doesn't required unroot. Update via OTA or kies required unroot.
4) Read, read and read is the best way to prevent bricking your device.
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Thank you guys!
I did not know JB was released, I saw it come out for Poland but I received no notification on my S3.
Now I'm not quite sure in which order I should do things, shall I update to JB and then root?
Can anyone link me to a guide to update for the official JB, al my search results come up with old results with leaked firmware
so I use odin for the first flash and then use CWM from there on out
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Thank you guys!
I did not know JB was released, I saw it come out for Poland but I received no notification on my S3.
Its only the Poland release so far .
All the rest are the old leaks .
jje
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UrbanDesigns said:
Thank you guys!
I did not know JB was released, I saw it come out for Poland but I received no notification on my S3.
Now I'm not quite sure in which order I should do things, shall I update to JB and then root?
Can anyone link me to a guide to update for the official JB, al my search results come up with old results with leaked firmware
so I use odin for the first flash and then use CWM from there on out
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If you want a Jellybean rom with bloat removed, then download Checkrom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738527 . It's a stock samsung rom, bloat taken out, rooted, and is ready for if you wanted themeing etc..
In his kitchen app (that comes with the rom) you can find a package with ALL the removed bloat for you to download and install (ota) but he's also separated them so you can download just the ones you want. Also in the kitchen you will find tweaks for changing the notification drawer toggles, changing the theme, different modems, kernels etc... And check in the kitchen now and again for any updates to the rom (as and when samsung release them)
It's all there and very noob friendly. It's the smoothest most stable stock rom I've tried.
So root your phone using odin (easiest method by far), pay for titanium backup and back up your apps, boot into recovery and make a nandroid, move them onto you exSd or computer, wipe your phone, install checkrom, download titanium again and restore your apps from it.
That's a good start for you, EVERYTHING you need to know has been asked and answered before, so just google or search XDA, it's all still relevant, and you won't go wrong.
I'm going to root it now, seems pretty straight-forward but I'll let you know!
Now I will be shortly rooted what's the best anti-theft to use?
edit: wow... that was possible the easiest thing I have ever done lol, i was expecting it to be hard but it's literally selecting a file and pressing start. it's so much easier then jailbreaking (easy as hell but this tops it for sure)
Just done a CWM back up I didnt expect it to take so long haha
In my opinion, Cerberus is the best anti-theft app out there. You can use for a week as a free trial, I'll bet you're gonna buy it after 15 minutes.
Note that no anti-theft protection will prevent a thief from actually using your phone. Within like 2 minutes of Googling, the thief knows that he can use Download mode to overwrite the firmware (including the "anti theft" app) and 5 minutes later he has done it.
I use one such app (Watchdroid) to find my phone when I have misplaced it and for family members to be able to locate my position through an sms in case of personal distress.
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Note that no anti-theft protection will prevent a thief from actually using your phone. Within like 2 minutes of Googling, the thief knows that he can use Download mode to overwrite the firmware (including the "anti theft" app) and 5 minutes later he has done it.
I use one such app (Watchdroid) to find my phone when I have misplaced it and for family members to be able to locate my position through an sms in case of personal distress.
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I guess it just depends on who finds it, there should be a password for download mode that can't be overwritten
I'm going to have it on either way, it can't hurt
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Note that no anti-theft protection will prevent a thief from actually using your phone. Within like 2 minutes of Googling, the thief knows that he can use Download mode to overwrite the firmware (including the "anti theft" app) and 5 minutes later he has done it.
I use one such app (Watchdroid) to find my phone when I have misplaced it and for family members to be able to locate my position through an sms in case of personal distress.
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Only a thief, who knows what he's doing will use Google. Idiots are more likely to throw the phone away, or give it back..
And Avast! Anti Virus has a lockdown feature, which forces GPS, WiFi/Data and number forwarding (Root), so my phone is pretty safe
I've just installed avast - cheers!
What happens if the SIM is replaced?
and how do I track the phone if it gets lost/stolen?
also in my notification bar it says "avast mobile security is protecting you" i renamed the app for obvious reasons like it suggested. it's pretty stupid if the app renames its self if only reported lost/stolen
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I've just installed avast - cheers!
What happens if the SIM is replaced?
and how do I track the phone if it gets lost/stolen?
also in my notification bar it says "avast mobile security is protecting you" i renamed the app for obvious reasons like it suggested. it's pretty stupid if the app renames its self if only reported lost/stolen
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Check the anti-theft settings in the app. It lets you set up trusted numbers, so you can control your phone remotely, and you can set things up, like force GPS and Data on, that way the phone can tell you it's position..
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Check the anti-theft settings in the app. It lets you set up trusted numbers, so you can control your phone remotely, and you can set things up, like force GPS and Data on, that way the phone can tell you it's position..
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I've done all that, I've enabled anti-theft stealth mode where it states it will remain hidden after my next reboot.
I rebooted the phone but to no avail. It keeps showing in the notification bar and anti-theft seems useless, I've set up a pin but anybody who saw my phone would see the app straight away and would just use google on "how to remove avast samsung galaxy s3"
i don't think a thief could do it themselves but any idiot can search keywords into google to find a solid result
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I've done all that, I've enabled anti-theft stealth mode where it states it will remain hidden after my next reboot.
I rebooted the phone but to no avail. It keeps showing in the notification bar and anti-theft seems useless, I've set up a pin but anybody who saw my phone would see the app straight away and would just use google on "how to remove avast samsung galaxy s3"
i don't think a thief could do it themselves but any idiot can search keywords into google to find a solid result
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Yes, but not everyone knows what the avast! symbol look like, do they? I doubt you're going to find an XDA-Member would have stolen your phone, it will probably be an Asi, or someone really retarded.
And anyways, they'll get frightened enough, when the phone rights junk to the SD, locks itself up and sounds the siren, with a personal "greeting"..
Give it a go, if your phone gets stolen, there's always the police, they'll (hopefully) help you But that's worst-case-scenario..
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Yes, but not everyone knows what the avast! symbol look like, do they? I doubt you're going to find an XDA-Member would have stolen your phone, it will probably be an Asi, or someone really retarded.
And anyways, they'll get frightened enough, when the phone rights junk to the SD, locks itself up and sounds the siren, with a personal "greeting"..
Give it a go, if your phone gets stolen, there's always the police, they'll (hopefully) help you But that's worst-case-scenario..
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No but I'd still like it hidden
Anyone with google and the least bit of experience or interest will just reflash the stock Samsungrom anyway, rendering all and any (including Samsung's own) anti-theft utterly useless.
(In many cases thiefs steal to buy drugs, the dealer will certainly know someone to "freshen" up the phone.
It's very useful for finding the phone though if you have misplaced it =)
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No but I'd still like it hidden
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You could remove the icon by going into avast > Settings > Notification Icon > None
Hope this helps
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Anyone with google and the least bit of experience or interest will just reflash the stock Samsungrom anyway, rendering all and any (including Samsung's own) anti-theft utterly useless.
(In many cases thiefs steal to buy drugs, the dealer will certainly know someone to "freshen" up the phone.
It's very useful for finding the phone though if you have misplaced it =)
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So you're saying if I left my phone on the bus or something and somebody picked it up and decided to be a thief they automatically are casual drug users who know dodgy people, all because they found my phone?
I don't see how it could be useful for finding a "misplaced" phone, what would you class as misplaced? If I left the phone under my bed or something and "misplaced" it surely avast! isn't going to show a picture of inside my house?
Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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Still no joy. I managed to get back to stock recovery, stock kernel, stock OS (is this really stock?), and even mostly apply the update thus breaking wifi so...restore everything stock and no vudu. It seems once you root flash recovery then vudu is a lost cause for good? Is it requiring a secure key in the original rom that gets lost when flashing maybe? I guess since I'm in the window, I'm going to just return it and grab another.
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Still no joy. I managed to get back to stock recovery, stock kernel, stock OS (is this really stock?), and even mostly apply the update thus breaking wifi so...restore everything stock and no vudu. It seems once you root flash recovery then vudu is a lost cause for good? Is it requ. ing a secure key in the original rom that gets lost when flashing maybe? I guess since I'm in the window, I'm going to just return it and grab another.
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Yeah I ran into the same problem trying to install the update...got an error and my wifi quit working. So I reinstalled the stock ROM. Once we have ten posts we can ask in the forum. Other than that I love this tablet. I am sure someone will make a ROM with the update included. Remember the sero 7 is new and I am confident the best is yet to come for it. You might want to hang onto it.
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Yeah I ran into the same problem trying to install the update...got an error and my wifi quit working. So I reinstalled the stock ROM. Once we have ten posts we can ask in the forum. Other than that I love this tablet. I am sure someone will make a ROM with the update included. Remember the sero 7 is new and I am confident the best is yet to come for it. You might want to hang onto it.
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I just exchanged it for another one. I think there is a security feature in it the same as with some other embedded devices that won't allow it to become "stock" once again after you flash a custom rom. It should have been able to install the update fully and use vudu if it had truly been returned to original condition. I hope they consider posting a warning about that in the first post. I know Vudu doesn't matter to a lot of people but it is a pretty important feature to me and I like to be able to keep up with OTA updates if they have relevance to device specific drivers or whatever. The custom rom was cool though...I can't believe how much has been accomplished with it in a short time.
Sent from my M470BSA using xda app-developers app I too have not been able to update. I went back to stock but still the update failed.I wish someone would incorporate the update into a new ROM.I didn't know that I could not return to true stock or I wouldn't have installed the ROM. I've lost some of the stock apps too like the remote. But I still think the devs have done and amazing job for this early in this tablet release.
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I just exchanged it for another one. I think there is a security feature in it the same as with some other embedded devices that won't allow it to become "stock" once again after you flash a custom rom. It should have been able to install the update fully and use vudu if it had truly been returned to original condition. I hope they consider posting a warning about that in the first post. I know Vudu doesn't matter to a lot of people but it is a pretty important feature to me and I like to be able to keep up with OTA updates if they have relevance to device specific drivers or whatever. The custom rom was cool though...I can't believe how much has been accomplished with it in a short time.
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You are right about the warning. All I did was root mine and installed cwm..I did not install the custom ROM. I am sure they will find a work around for the update. I hope so cause i am just outside the 15 days.I don't use vudu but I understand. I know I could buy a new one and return this one but this one is perfect so i am gonna keep it. So we wait and see what happens next with Dev...lol
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Sent from my M470BSA using xda app-developers app I too have not been able to update. I went back to stock but still the update failed.I wish someone would incorporate the update into a new ROM.I didn't know that I could not return to true stock or I wouldn't have installed the ROM. I've lost some of the stock apps too like the remote. But I still think the devs have done and amazing job for this early in this tablet release.
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Yup..I know how you feel. I am going to hang in there and keep mine. The fact that so much has been done since release is a good indicator of much more to come. It will be interesting to see what the next rom will be.
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You are right about the warning. All I did was root mine and installed cwm..I did not install the custom ROM. I am sure they will find a work around for the update. I hope so cause i am just outside the 15 days.I don't use vudu but I understand. I know I could buy a new one and return this one but this one is perfect so i am gonna keep it. So we wait and see what happens next with Dev...lol
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Yup..I know how you feel. I am going to hang in there and keep mine. The fact that so much has been done since release is a good indicator of much more to come. It will be interesting to see what the next rom will be.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
andrewsandroid said:
1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
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If you were so smart, u should of figured, how ridiculously easy it is to make ten MEANINGFUL posts. Stop the whining, deal with it, and make those ten, THE RIGHT WAY!
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Vudu because it supports ultraviolet and contains much of my already owned content which I do not wish to purchase again. In general I prefer the service to google play video because it is on my Bluray players as well allowing me to easily view the same shared content on multiple locations. The "revert to stock" option does not fix the vudu app or the OTA updates either. Don't know about fastboot yet so no comment there.
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I suppose karma bit me on the ass. I exchanged mine in perfect physical condition to get one with a stuck pixel and a spot near the bottom that looks like some kind of screen fault. Should have left well enough alone...I would rather do without vudu than have this. The update seems substantial though.
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Sorry that happened to you. Maybe take it back and get another one? I would think the update does more than just patch a security hole. I mean it 50megs. It's a shame Hisense doesn't post revisions.
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1. why vudu? you have an entire android market.
2. xboxexpert provides an executable to go back to bone stock. just run from within windows.
3. you should learn to do it thru fastboot
4. i have a device tree and booting cm 10.1 but the mods wont let me post in dev forums or include links for another 7 post, damn nazis
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It puts the device back to what appears to be bone stock. But the update still does not install for me and yes I have tried everything. Have you tried installing the update after just doing a root and CWM and reverting back to the "stock rom"?
xboxexpert has a new version of his root and custom UI for the Sero 7 pro posted for the new build that came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297246
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Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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I dont care about vudu, but a warning would be nice for those who do
Has the vudu app been resolved? does anyone have an original backup?
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Has the vudu app been resolved?
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I have not had problems with Vudu, even after rooting my Sero 7 Pro, playing with XERom, and restoring it back to stock (but rooted). There are two differences that may be involved.
I only played with Vudu after restoring it to stock. I never ran it before.
I did a backup of my stock ROM and installed software immediate after installing CWM, and I used that to restore everything. (It's nice having 32GB of SD Card to backup to.)
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Hello, I flashed the XE-SeroROM and kernel from the dev thread and would like to revert to stock. I see the stock firmware available but does anyone know where I can locate the stock kernel as well? Any help is greatly appreciated.
EDIT: In addition, does anyone know how I might restore functionality to vudu? A good addition to the first post in that dev thread would be a warning that it kills vudu and even reverting to stock doesn't fix it.
I took the Boot.img provided and inserted it into the kerneltest.zip and it seems to have worked. The OTA update is almost working now. Seems to fail at "set_perm" status 7. ??
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Weird, I still have my Vudu and remote apps after rooting & cwm on my sero7 pro. But then again, I just did the root 3 weeks ago so maybe the root file from the xbox Dev post has been modified/amended/fixed to fix that issue since the version you used back when you did yours. Either way.. I'm sorry that has happened to you, I also like my Vudu My problem now is waiting for them to release something to help us trick our devices into switching our internal storage path with our external/SD paths so we can actually USE our SD cards like intended>>for storing apps!.. spent all that damn money on a 32gb card cause I knew I was gonna be an app hog, only to turn out that all I can use it for is storing photos, video, docs and music..but no apps!?!! Ridic.. Grrr!
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Weird, I still have my Vudu and remote apps after rooting & cwm on my sero7 pro. But then again, I just did the root 3 weeks ago so maybe the root file from the xbox Dev post has been modified/amended/fixed to fix that issue since the version you used back when you did yours. Either way.. I'm sorry that has happened to you, I also like my Vudu My problem now is waiting for them to release something to help us trick our devices into switching our internal storage path with our external/SD paths so we can actually USE our SD cards like intended>>for storing apps!.. spent all that damn money on a 32gb card cause I knew I was gonna be an app hog, only to turn out that all I can use it for is storing photos, video, docs and music..but no apps!?!! Ridic.. Grrr!
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I use an app called "FolderMount" for linking my apps to the SD. So far, haven't had any issues with it - I've been able to move almost all of my resource hogging games to the SD without a hitch...
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Stock ROM my ass.
Lots of stuff ends up not working or missing.
He could just like at least let people know he fuxored up the so called "stock" ROM he posted.
Why vudu? ...because I had an account already.
anyway it is hilarious how this is such a respected site and so many things are joke on here and don't work correctly.
Anyway we all knew the risks going in so w/e.
Ditto..so I'm not the only one?!
NubzX said:
Stock ROM my ass.
Lots of stuff ends up not working or missing.
He could just like at least let people know he fuxored up the so called "stock" ROM he posted.
Why vudu? ...because I had an account already.
anyway it is hilarious how this is such a respected site and so many things are joke on here and don't work correctly.
Anyway we all knew the risks going in so w/e.
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Yeah, I'm having the SAAAME exact issues... about the first 3 weeks after rooting with that rom everything was allll good and great..... NOW, I have to shut down and reboot about 5-8 times A DAY!.. 'Launcher' stops working, and EVERY-DAMN-TIME my tablet goes to sleep/screen off for more than about 30-40 mins..it just crashes and you have to force it to shut down and reboot.. Rooting was soooo not worth it, I never even really ended up using any "root required" features or apps anyways, besides folder mount (stopped functioning), and GameKiller. And now I'm fizznucked cause even know my sero7p is only 2 MONTHS old/new and I bought the 2 year replacement plan..rooting voided that So yeah, I'm RIGHT there with u, stuck with what used to be a kick ass functioning tablet, that is now just a nuisance and is gonna end up being yet another dusty R.I.P. electronic stuck in a drawer somewhere..when will I learn?! lol. Best of luck..
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Yeah, I'm having the SAAAME exact issu... about the first 3 weeks after rooting with that rom everything was allll good and great..... NOW, I have to shut down and reboot about 5-8 times A DAY!.. 'Launcher' stops working, and EVERY-DAMN-TIME my tablet goes to sleep/screen off for more than about 30-40 mins..it just crashes and you have to force it to shut down and reboot.. Rooting was soooo not worth it, I never even really ended up using any "root required" features or apps anyways, besides folder mount (stopped functioning), and GameKiller. And now I'm fizznucked cause even know my sero7p is only 2 MONTHS old/new and I bought the 2 year replacement plan..rooting voided that So yeah, I'm RIGHT there with u, stuck with what used to be a kick ass functioning tablet, that is now just a nuisance and is gonna end up being yet another dusty R.I.P. electronic stuck in a drawer somewhere..when will I learn?! lol. Best of luck..
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What I did was flash the first stock ROM in the list and then tell cwm no when it asks if I want to stop the ROM from flashing the stock recovery and then no again when it asks about root and it's all back to normal now
I own a Xperia Z2 D6502 with android 5.1.1 and build number 23.4.A.1.232 which I would like to root. I have never rooted any of my phones before so I dont know anything about it. After spending much time on this forum I found this link but I am not sure if these are the right instructions for my xperia Z2 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.232.
What I understood after reading this article was that after following these instructions I would have a rooted lollipop 5.1.1 version on my phone. However I dont want this. I want any suitable(which makes my phone faster and doesnt affect camera quality) rom(I dont know much about them either) with KitKat on my xperia device.
Can anyone please help me to achieve the above with all the detailed steps as I am totally new to this?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
berbatov93 said:
Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
Cluey said:
Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
clawpt said:
Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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berbatov93 said:
I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
I can uninstall some of the preinstalled apps if I want but as I haven't run out of space I haven't yet. I'm also interested in seeing what Sony does with them, some I'll not use and others I glance at.
Battery life is pretty impressive for me but it varies with how you use your device. I play Ingress and if I'm out playing I get five hours, that's with the screen on, GPS and data going. Not many phones can do that.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
If you want to learn about Android devices in general pick up a cheap device to play with and learn on, the Z2 is still quite expensive. You could probably pick up one with a broken screen pretty cheaply online, as long as you can read the screen you can play around and learn on it. Just plug a mouse in if the digitiser doesn't work.
I used a stock Samsung GS2 for years while reading about things, then I got a tablet and started playing with that as it was just inconvenient to me if I broke it, I still had a working phone.
@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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Yes. I'm using "Z2-lockeddualrecovery2.8.x-RELEASE.flashable.zip". I'm on unlocked bootloader, maybe i need to use the other variant (i'm on stock kernel, should not be a problem)?
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@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Meaning that you also have rw permissions.
I can't delete system apps, i can't modify/create a file at "/".
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
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I will try to back them up given they are still there because I already rooted my phone to pre rooted stock rom 5.1.1 as mentioned in the guide I found.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
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Maybe I have hardware issues or network problems as people usually complain about my voice being not clear.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
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Sometimes my device doesnt connect to saved wifi networks automatically, I have to connect it manually.
If I open too many tabs in my chrome browser, chrome crashes. Sometimes dialer also takes too much time to open.
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
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I meant update that sony provides. After rooting my phone I am still getting updates from sony(I didnt expect them), so if I update using sony updates will my phone lose its root status(I mean will it still be rooted)?
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
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I wasnt much confident but still I proceeded with the steps mentioned in the guide and with a little help from google, I was fortunately able to root my device. Yes, its the only phone I have but I couldnt afford a new one and I waited too long for its warranty to expire.
Can you please provide me with a source to learn about general concepts involved in rooting like flashing, busybox, unlocking boot loader, etc. I am trying to google each thing individually, but i cant seem to find a place where I could learn things in a proper order, moving from basics to more advanced concepts.
Thank you so much for your help.
I would like you to clear one more thing for me, when I followed the guide, I first flashed my device with 17.1.2.A.0.314 ftf file and then installed flashable_D6502_23.4.A.0.546.zip from the recovery menu. So what is a ftf file and what is the difference between the two steps I followed. In my understanding, both basically did the same thing, i.e., installing a new rom. Is ftf file sony specific?
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@berbatov93 definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
I've never noticed any slow launching with the dialer, perhaps your call history is huge? Try backing it up with an app from the Play Store and then deleting it to see if that is the cause. Each time you open it it looks at that to display it.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
There are lots of different summaries about what rooting does for you, I don't want to try and summarise them for you. (I'd rather go to bed, it's 4:30am for me!)
Just reading a description of one of the various Busybox installers on the Play Store should answer that question, I bought this one. I can't remember if a friend recommended it to me or something I read somewhere, but I bought it as I appreciated the effort the developer put in for the rest of us to use. The same with SuperSU Pro.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
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Should I use this to take backup? And what kind of backup should I take to recover my device from bootloop? I wanted to install xposed on my device, but it was warned somewhere that sony devices might go into bootloop and that I should take a backup to restore my device. What kind of backup can help me recover my device from bootloop or soft brick?
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
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It happens most of the time, even when I am in a closed room with no background disturbances.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
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That was a wifi issue, it just didnt connect automatically, I had to do it manually even for saved networks.
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
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It just shows connecting but doesnt connect until select the network. Keep wifi on during sleep was enabled.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
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Then maybe its a chrome issue.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
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I needed 4.4.4 pre rooted stock ROM for D6502 but cant seem to find it anywhere. I read the steps in the thread you mentioned about creating a pre rooted ROM, but steps are not explained in detail for someone new like me. I am also scared a little to try something new on my device as I am already facing a few problems. Can you provide me with a link with much more detailed steps?
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
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I feel silly now.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Will sony be able to fix my device in case I screwed up and bricked it?
Thanks.
@berbatov93 I'm sure Sony will fix it if you pay them too!
Hopefully it won't come to that though, they're pretty hard to brick because of the way they've set things up. Even if you soft brick it you can power it off, fire up the flash tool and then hold volume down and plug USB in, press flash and it'll put a base Sony ROM on for you. I've kept the D6503_17.1.A.2.55_Generic AU 1281-9715.ftf file on my PC for just that reason but I haven't had to reuse it yet.
I don't know of any other instructions for making your own pre-rooted zip file, it took me a fair bit of reading and looking at menu options to work it out the first time but it's pretty easy. You won't screw your phone up with it as it will fail before you get it to the phone if you do it incorrectly. As with most things in life you have to learn from experience, just follow the instructions with the programs open so you can refer back to them. You could try Google for better instructions, I'm not sure if anyone wrote something more newbie friendly.
As for the WiFi problem perhaps a different ROM version will sort it out, also you might want to get all your data off your phone and do a completely fresh install on it and see if that sorts it out. The backups people talk about as Nandroids are done from in the custom recovery, have a look in there now you've got it working again. I'm not going to reply to the other thread as I see you did it all again.
I doubt there are any pre-rooted 4.4.4 still around as most people have moved on. There's probably no need to make a pre-rooted one though, one of the root exploits works on it so you could just download, via XperiFirm, the 4.4.4 you want and flash it, then root it. I've never downloaded a pre-rooted ROM as I'm overly cautious, I'm not even keen on using the one click root programs as I can't read what they're doing!
You could call it a Chrome problem but I'd really call it a user problem. Like I said originally you could try another browser and see if it copes better but they aren't really designed to have lots of tabs open. Each tab takes up memory, so you'll fill it all up and then it will start using virtual memory but eventually it will crash. It happens on desktop computers too, I've got 8GB of RAM in my PC but Chrome eats it all up if I open too many tabs.
I don't know what to do about your mic problems in call, I'd take it back to where you got it from and see what they say. But I'm pretty sure you've waited too long as you indicated it was out of warranty which is why you've started looking at root options now. If you've been having problems for a while you should have taken it back before you lost that. It's still worth asking the store/phone company about it though, just make sure they don't go charging you anything to fix it without asking you about it.
You might just have to chalk it up to experience and live with it. Never be afraid to ask for things to be looked at while the warranty is valid, it might be inconvenient but if something needs fixing it's better to use the warranty than pay for it.
The other option would be to use a headset for calls, I picked up an SBH52 and I'm pretty happy with it. As long as you don't lose or break it it will work with whatever phone you end up replacing your Z2 with.