Hi everyone,
I just got my new C6833 to which I upgdraded from my Galaxy Note. I have a small number of apps (incl. app data) that I want to move from my old phone to the new one. I have root on my Note, but not too keen to root my Z Ultra yet (dodgy chinese software??) so Titanium backup is out of the question. I have been reading up about Helium for backing up and restoring apps and data which doesn't need root, but apparently there are problems with the Xperia Z.... has anyone used Helium with the Z Ultra?? Does it work or have the same problems as the Z?
Regards
F.
I used Helium to transfer all app data from my HTC to Z Ultra (before I got root)
It works fine.
Also, nowadays, with one-click root, really, there is nothing to worry about.
There is nothing dodgy about Vroot as far as most people here on XDA can tell.
Thanks for the reply.
One click root not working for Z Ultra yet is it? I don't want to mess up any of the TA partition either etc... so will wait for a simple proven root method and then backup TA partition. Guess it might take some time though.
choasty said:
Thanks for the reply.
One click root not working for Z Ultra yet is it? I don't want to mess up any of the TA partition either etc... so will wait for a simple proven root method and then backup TA partition. Guess it might take some time though.
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One click root doesn't affect your boot loader, which is where your TA back up comes in. Mine is still locked
I have been wanting for a while to go back to my stock international GB but i am unable to do that. When i try to restore that backup, i get the error which says that i don't have enough space on the system partition.
Recently this post appeared in the development thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599365
I tried to do this by myself by looking in the threads around here, but i only got to the point where i managed to install ubuntu and android dev kit.
Is it possible for someone to point me to the right resources in regard to patching a kernel and compiling it?
I think it would probably be much simpler and safer to try and figure out why does your backup not fit on the phone anymore. Did you wipe /system before restoring?
ravilov said:
I think it would probably be much simpler and safer to try and figure out why does your backup not fit on the phone anymore. Did you wipe /system before restoring?
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I have tried everything on this forum.My guess is that probably, in order to restore the system, cwm needs a little more space to do it's thing.(my version seems to be a little bigger then other ones)
So, this is my last chance to restore my GB backup. Unfortunately i haven't found a fruitcake for my version of the phone.
Tracu said:
I have tried everything on this forum.My guess is that probably, in order to restore the system, cwm needs a little more space to do it's thing.(my version seems to be a little bigger then other ones)
So, this is my last chance to restore my GB backup. Unfortunately i haven't found a fruitcake for my version of the phone.
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what version do you have? have you checked www.das8nt.com/downloads ?
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what version do you have? have you checked www.das8nt.com/downloads ?
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2.3.4-4.5.2A-74_OLE-31.20
As i already said before, i tried everything available on this forum except for partition resize and flashing the stock image
You can shrink the backup's system to fit your actual partition. To do so, open it wuth 7zip and delete apks, media and all you see is safe to remove. After that, and once you are ready, get the md5sum of the new backup file and replace the one in the txt with it. That way, cwm won't abort on mismaching sums
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andresrivas said:
You can shrink the backup's system to fit your actual partition. To do so, open it wuth 7zip and delete apks, media and all you see is safe to remove. After that, and once you are ready, get the md5sum of the new backup file and replace the one in the txt with it. That way, cwm won't abort on mismaching sums
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I tried to do something like this a long time ago but it didn't work, but....
THIS ACTUALLY WORKS HAHA!! Thanks for the advice! If you come in Bucharest, give me a message and i'll treat you a beer
Hello everyone!!
I know it's not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia Neo, 2.3.4 (4.0.2.A.0.42), I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a "modified official rom", I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an "untouched official rom" through SEUS, which I presume that won't work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I'd like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I'd like to make just a simple rom backup.
I'm afraid that this nandroid "full backup" could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I'm asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
I installed the app Rom Manager to check its features. It seems it only performs nandroid backups as well directing to the recovery (hope I got it right), but I ended up noticing an issue. The app asks to install or update the CWM Recovery, I tried to update but I get a message saying my device is not compatible.
The current recovery installed in my Neo is "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7-nAa-r2".
Should I update it? And if it's the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it's the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
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Hello everyone!!
I know it's not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia Neo, 2.3.4 (4.0.2.A.0.42), I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a "modified official rom", I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an "untouched official rom" through SEUS, which I presume that won't work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I'd like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I'd like to make just a simple rom backup.
I'm afraid that this nandroid "full backup" could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I'm asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
I installed the app Rom Manager to check its features. It seems it only performs nandroid backups as well directing to the recovery (hope I got it right), but I ended up noticing an issue. The app asks to install or update the CWM Recovery, I tried to update but I get a message saying my device is not compatible.
The current recovery installed in my Neo is "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7-nAa-r2".
Should I update it? And if it's the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it's the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
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Cwm recovery backup restoration shouldn't cause any performance issues... The full backup will have everything in your current rom.. The cwm recovery stays in kernel... I don't understand why you want Rom manager... It's incompatible with our devices...
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Attitude.SSJ said:
Cwm recovery backup restoration shouldn't cause any performance issues... The full backup will have everything in your current rom.. The cwm recovery stays in kernel... I don't understand why you want Rom manager... It's incompatible with our devices...
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Hey Attitude.SSJ, thanks for answering my post!
I tried to explain that I am a beginner, I dont understand many things... I wasnt sure our phones are incompatible with Rom Manager, I wanted to check it, thanks for clarifying that one! Right now I really didnt need it, but I guess it would be very useful for testing others roms after my backup, I imagine Rom Manager makes things faster and easier, right? I wanted to check if there really wasnt a compatible version for Xperia Neo in the present date, since most of the threads I read are from 2012.
About my fear of issues due to restoration from a nandroid backup, I read a few cases where people got many crashes and weird behaviors from the phones, thats why...
So, if I go with the nandroid backup, I will get every single app and configuration saved for the future?? Even the apps I moved to sdcard??
I imagine that I could save the whole sdcard content separately and latter perform a restoration with this nandroid backup and put everything back in the sdcard to reach the exact state in which my smartphone is right now.
Is that the way nandroid backup works??
(I really want to understand it better before decide what to do, hope I am getting the right idea)
Also, if a FTF backup is not possible (I still dont know if its really not possible), is there any other manner (maybe another kind of backup) to make a flashable backup with a clean rom like it would be with the FTF files??
Thanks!
KenxirC said:
Hey Attitude.SSJ, thanks for answering my post!
I tried to explain that I am a beginner, I dont understand many things... I wasnt sure our phones are incompatible with Rom Manager, I wanted to check it, thanks for clarifying that one! Right now I really didnt need it, but I guess it would be very useful for testing others roms after my backup, I imagine Rom Manager makes things faster and easier, right? I wanted to check if there really wasnt a compatible version for Xperia Neo in the present date, since most of the threads I read are from 2012.
About my fear of issues due to restoration from a nandroid backup, I read a few cases where people got many crashes and weird behaviors from the phones, thats why...
So, if I go with the nandroid backup, I will get every single app and configuration saved for the future?? Even the apps I moved to sdcard??
I imagine that I could save the whole sdcard content separately and latter perform a restoration with this nandroid backup and put everything back in the sdcard to reach the exact state in which my smartphone is right now.
Is that the way nandroid backup works??
(I really want to understand it better before decide what to do, hope I am getting the right idea)
Also, if a FTF backup is not possible (I still dont know if its really not possible), is there any other manner (maybe another kind of backup) to make a flashable backup with a clean rom like it would be with the FTF files??
Thanks!
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Just like @Attitude.SSJ said CWM backup or Nandroid backup does not effect performance mate.
U cant make a nandroid backup to FTF, only sin files can be used to make FTF files.
There is a guide to make nandroid backups to flashable zip file in Neo General section. check that out.
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Samak said:
Just like @Attitude.SSJ said CWM backup or Nandroid backup does not effect performance mate.
U cant make a nandroid backup to FTF, only sin files can be used to make FTF files.
There is a guide to make nandroid backups to flashable zip file in Neo General section. check that out.
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Thanks a lot Samak! That zip alternative is the kind of thing I was talking about, good to know this possibility!
Found these two methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266285
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2209590
I will probably try one of them latter, but I'll perform a nandroid backup first to be safe!
I noticed that the final flashable file is referred to as "update.zip". Does it mean I need to flash a certain rom prior to this zip generated through these methods??
I also have a few important questions about nandroid before I make the backup, hope you guys can help me with this too.
I have many apps that were natively movable and some that I forced to the sdcard with link2sd. I have a 16GB sdcard almost full, so I have to empty it prior to the backup.
If I save the complete sdcard content in my pc and perform the nandroid backup after this, will nandroid be able to backup those apps moved to sd??
(I know part of the apps remain in the internal storage, but I'm still wondering what is gonna happen in this situation)
And after restoration, if I copy everything back to the sdcard, will the apps recognize everything??
Any other steps, or just CWM restore option??
Thanks guys!!
KenxirC said:
Thanks a lot Samak! That zip alternative is the kind of thing I was talking about, good to know this possibility!
Found these two methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266285
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2209590
I will probably try one of them latter, but I'll perform a nandroid backup first to be safe!
I noticed that the final flashable file is referred to as "update.zip". Does it mean I need to flash a certain rom prior to this zip generated through these methods??
I also have a few important questions about nandroid before I make the backup, hope you guys can help me with this too.
I have many apps that were natively movable and some that I forced to the sdcard with link2sd. I have a 16GB sdcard almost full, so I have to empty it prior to the backup.
If I save the complete sdcard content in my pc and perform the nandroid backup after this, will nandroid be able to backup those apps moved to sd??
(I know part of the apps remain in the internal storage, but I'm still wondering what is gonna happen in this situation)
And after restoration, if I copy everything back to the sdcard, will the apps recognize everything??
Any other steps, or just CWM restore option??
Thanks guys!!
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U dont need to flash the rom before flashing the nandroid zip. Just do all wipes properly & flash the rom.
I think if u copy all the sd card contents again then those apps linked to sd card will work properly. If u dont copy those contents again then linked apps will fc. I dont use link2sd so am not 100% sure. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Samak said:
U dont need to flash the rom before flashing the nandroid zip. Just do all wipes properly & flash the rom.
I think if u copy all the sd card contents again then those apps linked to sd card will work properly. If u dont copy those contents again then linked apps will fc. I dont use link2sd so am not 100% sure. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Awesome stuff man, thanks again!! :highfive:
Nandroid backup is really great and just saved me! After the backup I was feeling confident to mess with the device, so I made a factory reset to see how the rom would behave after the changes I made, without setup wizard and all the bloatware... At first glance everything seemed ok, but I don't know why the camera wouldn't work! I didn't remove anything related to the camera, I searched which system apps could be removed safely before doing anything. So this rom I am using right now is quite light, with a good amount of free internal storage, but it just can't be reseted because of the camera function and possibly some other bugs. Thankfully the nandroid restoration worked pretty well and now I don't have to go all the way installing and configuring everything!
All the apps seem to be fine after copying back the content of the sdcard, so using link2sd is ok to move apps before a nandroid procedure.
But considering the camera bug, I will not take the time to create a flashable zip of this rom I am using, maybe I can customize another one in the future and try it...
Any guesses of what could have gone wrong so that the camera didn't open after reseting the phone??
The camera app would only show a black screen of which I couldn't get out, the only choice was to turn off the phone.
Another doubt I have about nandroid restoration... I intend to flash the official ICS (MT15I_4.1.B.0.587) prior to the installation of Cyanogenmod and other roms based in newer versions of Android. But if I want to go back to this 2.3.4 nandroid backup while I am running, lets say, Jelly Bean, then what should I do??
Nothing, like it would be with a flashable zip, or should I make a downgrade first or any other procedure??
Thanks!!
KenxirC said:
Awesome stuff man, thanks again!! :highfive:
Nandroid backup is really great and just saved me! After the backup I was feeling confident to mess with the device, so I made a factory reset to see how the rom would behave after the changes I made, without setup wizard and all the bloatware... At first glance everything seemed ok, but I don't know why the camera wouldn't work! I didn't remove anything related to the camera, I searched which system apps could be removed safely before doing anything. So this rom I am using right now is quite light, with a good amount of free internal storage, but it just can't be reseted because of the camera function and possibly some other bugs. Thankfully the nandroid restoration worked pretty well and now I don't have to go all the way installing and configuring everything!
All the apps seem to be fine after copying back the content of the sdcard, so using link2sd is ok to move apps before a nandroid procedure.
But considering the camera bug, I will not take the time to create a flashable zip of this rom I am using, maybe I can customize another one in the future and try it...
Any guesses of what could have gone wrong so that the camera didn't open after reseting the phone??
The camera app would only show a black screen of which I couldn't get out, the only choice was to turn off the phone.
Another doubt I have about nandroid restoration... I intend to flash the official ICS (MT15I_4.1.B.0.587) prior to the installation of Cyanogenmod and other roms based in newer versions of Android. But if I want to go back to this 2.3.4 nandroid backup while I am running, lets say, Jelly Bean, then what should I do??
Nothing, like it would be with a flashable zip, or should I make a downgrade first or any other procedure??
Thanks!!
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If u r moving from ICS or JB to GB, then I would suggest u to flash the GB firmware ftf first, then restore the nandroid backup.
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Samak said:
If u r moving from ICS or JB to GB, then I would suggest u to flash the GB firmware ftf first, then restore the nandroid backup.
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Ok, thanks man!
I'll try different roms now, just have to search a little for some tutorials to remember every step...
Cheers :good:
hi everyone,
well i have 2 Xperia Z5 Compact, the one I use now I will sell to my friend, and the other I will start to use. how can I clone or transfer or do like in windows image ghost all the system+ data to the other Z5 compact before I sell?
is it possible to clone/copy/transfer/flash everything in my current Z5 Compact to the new one?
Both of them are the same variant E5823
if yes, how can I do that please?
any suggestion will be so much appreciated!
thank you all
There app called xperia transfer. Maybe that can help you
Xperia transfer was made for this. If it doesn't get everything there are non root backup apps as well.
civicsr2cool said:
Xperia transfer was made for this. If it doesn't get everything there are non root backup apps as well.
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well, i know xperia transfer, but i mean i would like to put all the rom from that z5 compact to the other, and both would be the same!
it's like clone or image ghost in windows computers!
you got it?
Nidhal AKA the king said:
well, i know xperia transfer, but i mean i would like to put all the rom from that z5 compact to the other, and both would be the same!
it's like clone or image ghost in windows computers!
you got it?
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It's called nandroid backup in Android world, you can swap the current state of your device between other devices and back again. I keep daily backups in the cloud
civicsr2cool said:
It's called nandroid backup in Android world, you can swap the current state of your device between other devices and back again. I keep daily backups in the cloud
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i think nandroid requires ROOT mine are not rooted because i don't want to mess up with the Bootloader. and there is no current root without unlocking it. so ughhhh
Nidhal AKA the king said:
i think nandroid requires ROOT mine are not rooted because i don't want to mess up with the Bootloader. and there is no current root without unlocking it. so ughhhh
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Yup, that's why we suggested the xperia transfer. There's no need to transfer system files back and forth. I don't remember the non root backup apps but there are a lot of popular ones similar to titanium back up
civicsr2cool said:
Yup, that's why we suggested the xperia transfer. There's no need to transfer system files back and forth. I don't remember the non root backup apps but there are a lot of popular ones similar to titanium back up
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it's only for Viber... they don't offer cloud backup like whatsapp... so annoying , i would like to have all my data of Viber in the other z5c without losing anything!
any idea please?
thanks!
Hi,
What I'm going to miss if I don't do TA partition backup?
As I posted in another thread that my phone's main speaker's sound got too low, and I'm now eyeing LineageOS https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5...ageos-14-1-bernis-alternative-builds-t3694904
I really don't care about restoring back to factory ROM with TA partition intact. I'm only concerned if certain apps will not work correctly, mainly camera app, if I don't do TA partition, as I've read in some ROM's guide they do some patching with keys from TA partition.
Thanks.
Never mind,
I waited for couple of hours and then started following the How To Root guide, had to downgrade to 6.0.1 and all. Took backup of TA partition, worked after few tries and a device restart.
Now I'm flashing LineageOS and GApps.
i didnt backup...
im using green kernel (for stock rom) it emulate the missing features anyway
(beside re-lock the boot-loader) the features are :
1 screen mirroring (to tv)
2 camera 23mp Instead of 8mp on LineageOS its fake 23 mp, if i remember correctly )
3 BRAVIA engine for videos and pictures ,
4 internal voice answering machine
(thats what i remember anyway)
Superrman said:
i didnt backup...
im using green kernel (for stock rom) it emulate the missing features anyway
(beside re-lock the boot-loader) the features are :
1 screen mirroring (to tv)
2 camera 23mp Instead of 8mp on LineageOS its fake 23 mp, if i remember correctly )
3 BRAVIA engine for videos and pictures ,
4 internal voice answering machine
(thats what i remember anyway)
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Thanks for your reply. Appreciate it.
Only screen mirroring I used occasionally, so I guess I'm not gonna miss anything important
LineageOS is awesome so far with default kernel. Didn't liked its Pixel Launcher, so using Lawnchair which have some awesome additional features along with tap-hold menu on app icons.