I have more than a few questions, hopefully some of you can shine some light:
DOCKING STATION
Is there gonna be a docking station like this one , but that is USB3.0 instead of just regular micro USB?
WIRELESS CHARGING
I understand the convenience of wireless charging. Is it slower than USB 3.0 charging?
Does using a USB 2.0 micro USB cable to charge the Note 3 affect in any way? is it slower?
Is it posible to implement wireless charging using the Spigen Neo Hybrid case? I heard the QI add on makes the original back cover not fit properly. Is that true?
NFC
Since the NFC chip is built onto the battery, do extended batteries like the upcoming 10,000mah by zerolemon have the NFC chip as well?Or will I be losing NFC functionality by having a third party battery?
Will Spigen Neo Hybrid case affect NFC?
CAR DOCK/KICKSTAND
I have had HTC EVO line phones since the first one until HTC EVO 4g LTE. This is my first Samsung. Is there an equivalent to the HTC car dock app for samsung (once again, USB 3.0 enabled)?
Is there gonna be an official car dock holder for Samsung, like HTC usually makes?
I want a built in kickstand, but I didnt want to limit my case options based on just that. I was intending to buy something like this, but they are never in stock. Must be wallet size. Anyone know of something similar?
Thank you very much for your time.
Don't really mean to bump, but I think answers to these questions would be a good source of information for everyone
There's an official USB 3.0 dock released but not the multimedia version u linked.
I have modified my Note3 to charge with the S3 wireless card and charging times don't seem to differ that much but I charge my device overnight as this beast never runs out of battery. Also the mod I done doesn't bulk ure cover out.
It doesn't charge wireless for me with my Spigen Slim Armour
If you use a third party battery that has NO NFC then you loose it
In terms of docks as the phone is only just out I'm sure there will be loads of USB 3.0 docks released soon enough for in car use
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There's an official USB 3.0 dock released but not the multimedia version u linked.
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Where? I can't find it on Samsung's website.
I see unofficial ones on eBay that have microUSB 3.0 connectors the plug into the phone but only microUSB 2.0 on the back of the dock, so it's not only unofficial but also not USB 3.0.
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Where? I can't find it on Samsung's website.
I see unofficial ones on eBay that have microUSB 3.0 connectors the plug into the phone but only microUSB 2.0 on the back of the dock, so it's not only unofficial but also not USB 3.0.
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Quick Google search http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/official-samsung-galaxy-note-3-usb-3-0-dock-p41066.htm
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snowwhite007 said:
There's an official USB 3.0 dock released but not the multimedia version u linked.
I have modified my Note3 to charge with the S3 wireless card and charging times don't seem to differ that much but I charge my device overnight as this beast never runs out of battery. Also the mod I done doesn't bulk ure cover out.
It doesn't charge wireless for me with my Spigen Slim Armour
If you use a third party battery that has NO NFC then you loose it
In terms of docks as the phone is only just out I'm sure there will be loads of USB 3.0 docks released soon enough for in car use
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Regarding wireless charging...you are the first person to claim that they can keep on using the Note 3 without increase in bulk, and therefore still fit regular cases, albeit wireless charging will only function with the case off. How exactly did you accomplish this?
Regarding NFC, my question was really whether the third party batteries are going to have NFC or not. I did assume not having a battery with NFC would disable NFC.
Thanks for pointing out that USB 3.0 dock! I am still hoping they will release a multimedia one, as my understanding so far is that the current smart media dock does not allow for simultaneous MHL and USB usage.
And what about USB 2.0 vs 3.0 charging? what is your take on that?
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Regarding wireless charging...you are the first person to claim that they can keep on using the Note 3 without increase in bulk, and therefore still fit regular cases, albeit wireless charging will only function with the case off. How exactly did you accomplish this?
Regarding NFC, my question was really whether the third party batteries are going to have NFC or not. I did assume not having a battery with NFC would disable NFC.
Thanks for pointing out that USB 3.0 dock! I am still hoping they will release a multimedia one, as my understanding so far is that the current smart media dock does not allow for simultaneous MHL and USB usage.
And what about USB 2.0 vs 3.0 charging? what is your take on that?
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I stripped the wireless card of the advertising leaving just the coil and one thin piece of sticky paper so no padding etc therefore its ultra thin.
I personally would only use official battery's so wouldn't know but I assume there will be NFC enabled third party ones.
As for USB 3.0 it certainly charges faster especially when plugged in to my PC
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I stripped the wireless card of the advertising leaving just the coil and one thin piece of sticky paper so no padding etc therefore its ultra thin.
I personally would only use official battery's so wouldn't know but I assume there will be NFC enabled third party ones.
As for USB 3.0 it certainly charges faster especially when plugged in to my PC
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So you are saying the phone charges faster plugged in to a PC's USB 3.0 port than to the included Samsung USB AC adapter?
Thanks about the info on the batteries, I was just curious about the 10000mah one
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So you are saying the phone charges faster plugged in to a PC's USB 3.0 port than to the included Samsung USB AC adapter?
Thanks about the info on the batteries, I was just curious about the 10000mah one
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No what I meant was its faster charging and transferring data with the 3.0 on PC than standard micro USB
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well that docking station you posted does work with the note 3, see here if interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPCY9PSfSk
Yes the mAh battery from ZL will have NFC.
NFC still work?
Hi! Have you tried NFC with the coil? I know the coil works fine, keeps the slim profile vs. the OEM back charging cover, etc, but wondering if it blocks the NFC since it covers the battery. The add-on coil seems like the obvious and cheaper choice but I want the NFC to work still as I do use NFC tags. Thank you for the info and any help you can offer!
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Anyone else charges their HTC Flyer in the car and, one takes a very long time and secondly if you are using the Flyer at the same time your charging it, it actually discharges. I am using a 2Amp car charger. I have never had a issue with other tablets I have.
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Are you using the actual custom tipped charger from HTC or a standard micro USB charger? Only the flyer specific plug charges at full speed.
I charge my evo view with the HTC included cable and it works just fine.
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Are you using the actual custom tipped charger from HTC or a standard micro USB charger? Only the flyer specific plug charges at full speed.
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That is wrong. The pin connections are exactly the same as a standard micro-USB but HTC have utilized a more robust housing for the connector as many on XDA and other forums have suffered broken sockets on other devices due to bad insertion of a tiny tip.. I try not to use anything else just for that reason but it's up to you....!
If you look carefully at the tip, it is longer and has a greater barrel contact area than a standard one giving a more secure connection.
I think a more likely reason for the OP's charging problem is that his 2amp power unit is not ACTUALLY delivering 2amps!
Some phone chargers, use a variable pulsed output for current regulation and the Flyer needs a continuous current.
Or it may just be faulty and not supplying enough!
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The pin connections are exactly the same as a standard micro-USB but HTC have utilized a more robust housing for the connector as many on XDA and other forums have suffered broken sockets on other devices due to bad insertion of a tiny tip..
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I thought it had more to do with the port on the Flyer having 12 pins (instead of the 5-pin standard for MicroUSB) in order to supply an HDMI output in addition to sync.charge. And also, so that people would not use the Flyer's 1.5 amp charger to charge an HTC or other smartphone (which normally use a 1 amp charger).
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I thought it had more to do with the port on the Flyer having 12 pins (instead of the 5-pin standard for MicroUSB) in order to supply an HDMI output in addition to sync.charge. And also, so that people would not use the Flyer's 1.5 amp charger to charge an HTC or other smartphone (which normally use a 1 amp charger).
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In part, that is true, but the extra connections are much further in for HDMI and the connector is longer.
The charger only reaches the standard USB pins.
Also, it does not matter if you put a higher amp charger on any modern unit, so long as the voltage stays the same, all required current is regulated by the internal charging circuitry and is OK.
Example, small 12 volt bulb on car battery only uses what current it needs... Car starter motor.... Not the perfect example but good enough.
Today I tested the same charger without having the Flyer on, and does charge it without any issues. The car charger is a Kingston 2Amp charger. I also have tried using the cable that came with the Flyer and still same results as using a microUSB cable. If Flyer is on it seems not to charge and sometimes actually drops one bar. I like using the Flyer on as I go on the road for GPS, but not liking that it will not charge. I never had this issue with the Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Maybe I can try another charger that has a higher output like maybe 9v?
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Today I tested the same charger without having the Flyer on, and does charge it without any issues. The car charger is a Kingston 2Amp charger. I also have tried using the cable that came with the Flyer and still same results as using a microUSB cable. If Flyer is on it seems not to charge and sometimes actually drops one bar. I like using the Flyer on as I go on the road for GPS, but not liking that it will not charge. I never had this issue with the Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Maybe I can try another charger that has a higher output like maybe 9v?
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Absolutely NOT!
The voltage HAS to be 5 volt or you will fry it...
If you have used the charger with the HTC USB cable then it proves it is not supplying 2Amp, this beastie needs that to power and charge simultaneously when fully active GPS, DATA and high screen brightness.
The only solution is to try to find a good charger.
I use the data sync cable with a cigarette to usb adapter.
For fast charging in a car, you must use HTCFlyerCarChargerCC C500(1.67Amp,9V). Else you only will be able to charge the Flyer when its idle.
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For fast charging in a car, you must use HTCFlyerCarChargerCC C500(1.67Amp,9V). Else you only will be able to charge the Flyer when its idle.
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Totally agree, the HTC dedicated chargers are 9 Volt but if you use any other micro-USB cable or charger it has to be 5 Volt.
They are redily available online, Mobilefun in UK have them, also Amazon.
Be aware, many are advertising standard car chargers for the Flyer, get the official one and save a load of grief.
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Totally agree, the HTC dedicated chargers are 9 Volt but if you use any other micro-USB cable or charger it has to be 5 Volt.
They are redily available online, Mobilefun in UK have them, also Amazon.
Be aware, many are advertising standard car chargers for the Flyer, get the official one and save a load of grief.
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Thanks, and I agree. I will have to get the official Flyer charger as I can only charge if the Flyer is turned off with other with other USB car chargers I have.
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That is wrong. The pin connections are exactly the same as a standard micro-USB but HTC have utilized a more robust housing for the connector as many on XDA and other forums have suffered broken sockets on other devices due to bad insertion of a tiny tip.. I try not to use anything else just for that reason but it's up to you....!
If you look carefully at the tip, it is longer and has a greater barrel contact area than a standard one giving a more secure connection.
I think a more likely reason for the OP's charging problem is that his 2amp power unit is not ACTUALLY delivering 2amps!
Some phone chargers, use a variable pulsed output for current regulation and the Flyer needs a continuous current.
Or it may just be faulty and not supplying enough!
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Actually I think the different tip is because it uses a different voltage to charge it though the AC adaptor (for faster charging) and it's so you don't accidently plug a phone into it and blow the phone
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That is wrong. The pin connections are exactly the same as a standard micro-USB but HTC have utilized a more robust housing for the connector as many on XDA and other forums have suffered broken sockets on other devices due to bad insertion of a tiny tip.. I try not to use anything else just for that reason but it's up to you....!
If you look carefully at the tip, it is longer and has a greater barrel contact area than a standard one giving a more secure connection.
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No, actually he's correct in that the HTC charger will fast-charge it while micro USB will not. I don't know how the Flyer can tell the difference between the two, or what the circuitry is, but the HTC Flyer charge clearly reads an output of 9 volts, considerably higher than standard USB, at 5 volts.
I would like to cut the htc usb cable and replace it with a standard micro usb piece. I am just not sure if the charging current of the htc is not to high for other devices like my galaxy s.
For the people who like to ask "why do you want,..."; I don´t like to carry thousands of cable with me and the standard micro usb chargers charge the flyer slowlyer than the original.
thanks for answers
standard usb chargers can only yield 5W, which is why HTC has provided a customized charger for the flyer / view.
you're out of luck. undesirable I know.
barbecue
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standard usb chargers can only yield 5W, which is why HTC has provided a customized charger for the flyer / view.
you're out of luck. undesirable I know.
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does it mean I would grill other devices with the htc charger?
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does it mean I would grill other devices with the htc charger?
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You could always perform an experiment. Let us know what happens.
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Drives me nuts that they changed the connection. Finding the stupid ExtMicro or what ever they call it is hard. I ordered two last week and I won't get them until the end of this week. If anyone knows where to get them please let me knowing.... I think they come from the UK. You have to be really careful when buying cables, if it doesn't say ExtMicro USB it won't work. I almost bought one at buy.com that said it was for the flyer so I called them I the rep said that all the cables that say HTC flyer won't work unless it says ExtMicro USB. Good luck
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The HTC charger supplies 9 volts @ 1.2 amp. Which it clearly states on the label.
This may be too much for some USB devices.
USB chargers supply 5 volts usually at .5 amp.
The Flyer has two batteries inside and really needs the extra power.
The ExtMicro connector is HTC proprietary.
Ok, So will it hurt my Flyer to use a standard Micro USB? I know it's not the correct Voltage and Amperage but it does keep my tab charged while i'm at work.
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Ok, So will it hurt my Flyer to use a standard Micro USB? I know it's not the correct Voltage and Amperage but it does keep my tab charged while i'm at work.
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it won't hurt it.
won;t hurt, but s USB port will not supply enough juice to charge while you have the Flyer on. If you turn it off or off the screen it will charge it......... s l o w l y...
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Drives me nuts that they changed the connection. Finding the stupid ExtMicro or what ever they call it is hard.
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But the different connection has a deeper sense.
Using the original cable, the flyer is charged with 9V @ 1,2Amps, which is about 4-times faster then a standard microUSB can handle.
So changing the connector of the original carger will kill all "normal microUSB" devices.
Nevertheless, a standard microUSB-cable can be used too, but charging will take much longer. Even more, on heavy use, you will get the warning, that the drain of the battery is higher than the charging current.
I don't think the cable matters? I understand that the charger matters as it provides different amount of volt/amperage, but I thought the cable it self merely passes through whatever electricity is provided?
I use the same cable, the one that came with my Kindle to charge my Samsung Focus and the Evo View, and it seems to work just fine - i haven't tried watching a movie while charging, however.
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I don't think the cable matters? I understand that the charger matters as it provides different amount of volt/amperage, but I thought the cable it self merely passes through whatever electricity is provided?
I use the same cable, the one that came with my Kindle to charge my Samsung Focus and the Evo View, and it seems to work just fine - i haven't tried watching a movie while charging, however.
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Any regular micro USB will charge the view. It will charge, but it will not charge as fast as it would with the charger it comes with. I have tried charging my rezound with that charger, and it will not charge it, probably because of the huge output. So changing the tip to micro USB would probably work to charge the view, but trying to charge another device with it could probably fry it. There are quite a few places that sell the OEM charger like HTC pedia. Its a bit expensive but I would always recommend using the OEM charger.
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A standard USB charger will not charge the Flyer or View while operating. Its simply cannot provide the required supply of 9v @ 1.2 amp. that the Flyer need.
It will s l o w l y charge the Flyer while its off or asleep. And the special connector provides extra contacts to handle the additional current. It's HTC proprietary.
Charger
I had the same problem. I broke my gf's Flyer charger. I had a hard time finding a replacement. However, Sprint and ATT carry similar chargers for their HTC tablets, View and Jetstream, respectively, The ATT Jetstream charger is $30 plus tax and the Sprint View charger is $35 plus tax.
The ATT charger is shown as white on their website. The Sprint charger is shown as being black.
Hope this helps.
Already I have gone through 3 car chargers for my note 2 cheap ones and a Samsung charger none work well charging. The best one was the OEM Samsung but there must be a broken wire in there cause it charges then stops i move the cord and it works again. So I am looking for another car charger that actually charges and wont break in a month. Please post your opinions and links to the charger you refer (with best price of course ).
Here's what I use. About the best for any normal use. Had it since launch and so far so good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522177
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Anyone get "MTP initialization" when using the moto rapid charger? How do you get rid of it?
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Thanks
Just ordered the car charger off Amazon for $7.00 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005DCCCTW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 will try it out. I'm still interested if anyone recomends any other car chargers.
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Anyone get "MTP initialization" when using the moto rapid charger? How do you get rid of it?
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Open up the charger and solder the middle 2 pins together. Or short the data cable.
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hyukki said:
Open up the charger and solder the middle 2 pins together. Or short the data cable.
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Rather just buy a charger that doesn't require Modding.
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I've never had that happen with the Moto rapid charger.
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I've never had that happen with the Moto rapid charger.
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I could have sworn it didn't happen at first. But now everytime it does that. And it charges so slow that its not even worth being charged. I've tried both ports in my car as well.
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I've found that stock micro usb cable or any other micro cable combined with 2.1Amp(ipad) car charger worked best (faster/rapid charge)
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I've found that stock micro usb cable or any other micro cable combined with 2.1Amp(ipad) car charger worked best (faster/rapid charge)
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I would recommend this charger definitely. Charges 2 smartphones, 1 iPad plus my note, or just my note.
http://www.amzn.com/gp/product/B006...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006SU0SX0
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Open up the charger and solder the middle 2 pins together. Or short the data cable.
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This really is the best option (but I WOULD NOT SHORT THE CABLE). I downloaded an app that measures incoming amps and tried several car chargers. Most of them only output .5 amps. You are better off buying a car charger for the iPad (2.1 amps) or modding a normal charger as suggested and using any data cable.
I use a modded Power-Bolt charger with a retractable USB cable. This combination takes up the least amount of space and rapid charges my phone even if I'm using Google Navigation at the same time.
The Note comes with a normal USB cable and a shorted wall charger. The Note knows to rapid charge when it senses the short.
Rather than butchering either of my Kensington PowerBolts ......yet I chose to use Current Widget to measure output of basic Samsung microUsb car charger. Depending on battery level it registered over .9A at times yet on 2 hour ride last week w/ Google Maps it wasn't enough. I use ProClip device mounts, but for the hell of it bought Samsung's car mount today to see output of its included charger. Top measurement on 80%+ battery was 1.092A ?????? I'll let battery drain down and report back....
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I actually just use a cigararette lighter/USB converter and use a USB/micro USB cable and it charges just fine.
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Rather than butchering either of my Kensington PowerBolts ......
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If you do decide to butcher your PowerBolt, you won't be dissappointed. I'm getting over 1 amp now regardless of battery life or Navigation. It's a bit tricky with the PowerBolt Duo, but you cannot tell it's been modded.
You have to peel off the top sticker, then unscrew the top. I did not have a torx driver that was small enough, so I just drilled out the torx screws. Then you remove the top, disassemble the charger, and solder the two inner USB leads on the 1 amp side only. Reassemble the charger, add a drop of glue to attach the top, and put the sticker back on. Now I can charge my iPad3 and my Galaxy Note at the same time, while they're running.
I own both the single 2.1A port and the Duo 3.1A. What are you getting out of 2.1 ports? I don't remember getting over .992A with it. Am I wrong to expect closer to 2.1A?
I didn't look under decal yet, but own mini torx set.
Even though I own ProClip mount I bought Samsung Car Dock on sale at CompUsa to see what charging output the included charger produced and Current Widget measured 1.059A while battery was at 73%. It's the first time I remember getting over 1.0A
I'm switching from iPhone to the note 3. As a result, I will need to replace all of my chargers. I would like to order about 6 chargers and I want them to be a little longer than normal because I would constantly get fed up with the short apple cable. The new chargers should be the correct voltages for the Note. I would prefer the cable to be detachable from the power supply. Is there a goto charger that you guys use? Thanks!
Gotta see what voltage the note3 will carry. Also do you want all the cables to be the Micro USB 3.0 or 2.0?
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Gotta see what voltage the note3 will carry. Also do you want all the cables to be the Micro USB 3.0 or 2.0?
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Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
You can also just goto Amazon.com and look for microUSB 3.0 cables and find plenty of them since its an industry standard and you don't have to pay $29 for a cable like apple rips their isheep off with.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...+USB+3.0+cable&rh=i:aps,k:micro+USB+3.0+cable
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Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
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Just a tip-- When I had my Note 2, I purchased extra USB cords from E-Bay. It might not hurt to check Samsung's website and look at the product name/ID for their OEM items, and then just get a few of those off E-Bay or Amazon. the native Samsung A/C Adapter with the powerful amps makes a huge difference too. and you can almost always get it for under $10.
Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
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Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
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I'm not 100% on this but from what I have gathered it has the wireless charging pins but you would have to buy the Samsung wireless charging back plate for it similar to the S4.
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will7357 said:
Well from what I've read, USB 2.0 will charge just as fast from a wall outlet. I will just use the one USB 3.0 that comes with phone for my computer. So I will primarily be using these from a wall charger so I'll go with whichever one is cheaper.
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Not sure where your from...but if you have a 5 below store you can buy chargers, cables, cases for your note for $5 or less....I bought them for the note 2 and all worked without issue...:laugh:
Theres no point for usb 3 cables, they only add data pins. BUT if you plug into a real usb 3 port/computer, the phone MAY tell it to send higher wattage.
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You can also just goto Amazon.com and look for microUSB 3.0 cables and find plenty of them since its an industry standard and you don't have to pay $29 for a cable like apple rips their isheep off with.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...+USB+3.0+cable&rh=i:aps,k:micro+USB+3.0+cable
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Does the Note 3 have wireless charging?
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You can buy the wireless charging battery door from Samsung or Samsung S-View cover with wireless charging built in and get the wireless charger.
the standard usb cables of galaxy s3 will not fit to the note 3 ?
update : i see now review that show that the standard usb2 cable will fit too
eldhojohn said:
Just found this, http://dx-box.com/original-new-micr...ta-cable-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000.html
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Thanks this looks good
How much is the Orignal Charging wire
here its not available yet
I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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you can use the old micro usb 2.0 cables just fine
budgierless said:
I am in the same predicament, I just want a 3m or 5m cable because the stock cable is too short for my liking, but the data socket on the note 3 is different then the other Samsung products, im guessing that this is a result of the usb3, but so far I haven't found anything on amazon or eBay that has the new socket only the old micro usb plugs which is know good to me,
And help would be great, I'm from the UK so shipping must include that.
Cheers guys
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Here's one from Amazon US that is 9 feet, http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-Cable-Micro-Meters/dp/B00B7WGH48/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1381072931&sr=8-4&keywords=USB+3.0+Cable
Also, you can use your micro usb chargers, just plug it into the bigger side of the usb 3 socket. It won't be long before we all have a bunch of usb 3 cables lying around though, as more hard drives and stuff come with them.
Oh wow so that's why the new port looks that way, backwards compatibility!! Nice oh problem solved, I still need a longer cable as my usb3 socket is a bit awkward to get to on my PC, so I wil look at the suggested weblink and see what happens,
Thanks dudes
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anyone know if this is like the note 1, where you use a non-samsung cable, the charging voltage was reduced? there was some command to run in a terminal window that showed charge current. i don't recall.
i don't know if that's what did it, but at some point my note1's battery got ruined..where i couldn't get more than 10 minutes off the charger without a forced reboot. and all sorts of weirdness.
armedmetallica said:
anyone know if this is like the note 1, where you use a non-samsung cable, the charging voltage was reduced? there was some command to run in a terminal window that showed charge current. i don't recall.
i don't know if that's what did it, but at some point my note1's battery got ruined..where i couldn't get more than 10 minutes off the charger without a forced reboot. and all sorts of weirdness.
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I've used non OEM cables and wall plugs, and it charges the same.
USB 2.0, USB 3.0 doesn't make a difference. OEM, non OEM doesn't make a difference.
OEM puts out at least 2 amps. Alot of other chargers put out much less so it will take longer to charge.
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There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
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shaolin95 said:
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
Thanks!
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I have used both the EC21 and the knockoff magnetic cable and I do not see a difference in the ones that I have as far as charging is concerned. They both charge at the same rate regardless of which block I use which im starting to think is dependent on how much the phone wants to take in and not so much which block I use. I have tried a galaxy S3 charging block, stock XZU block, and the first gen ipad block and they all show the same charging speeds despite the difference in amperage. Can anyone else verify this for me? I know the ipad block should charge the phone faster since its a 2.1A block, but I am not seeing the speed. I have seen others get charging times around 2 hours and under but mine is no where near those times as it takes upwards of 3 hours to get from 35% to full.
shaolin95 said:
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
Thanks!
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Since these Chinese knock-offs don't have official names, thus making their identification difficult, we would never know for sure which types people are talking about.
But I have one at home, one at office (EC-21 and copy) and they do charge at different rates.
Even thought the copy version is more user friendly due to stronger magnets, I can tell you that EC-21 charges to the phone to full from any % in under 4 hours. Same cannot be said for the copy, which does have a thinner cable.
I have woken up from a 6 hour sleep a few times to find my phone not fully charged. (yes, all apps were closed and nothing should have been sucking the power)
I have seen 2 variants of EC-21
Ones that come with the DK-30 dock, which cannot charge from USB ports on PC, and the EC-21 sold as EC-21, without the dock. This type has a chunkier USB connector which allows you to connect to PC and charge.
The one I have is the cable-only EC-21
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Since these Chinese knock-offs don't have official names, thus making their identification difficult, we would never know for sure which types people are talking about.
But I have one at home, one at office (EC-21 and copy) and they do charge at different rates.
Even thought the copy version is more user friendly due to stronger magnets, I can tell you that EC-21 charges to the phone to full from any % in under 4 hours. Same cannot be said for the copy, which does have a thinner cable.
I have woken up from a 6 hour sleep a few times to find my phone not fully charged. (yes, all apps were closed and nothing should have been sucking the power)
I have seen 2 variants of EC-21
Ones that come with the DK-30 dock, which cannot charge from USB ports on PC, and the EC-21 sold as EC-21, without the dock. This type has a chunkier USB connector which allows you to connect to PC and charge.
The one I have is the cable-only EC-21
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this is the knockoff I have.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200964395431
as far as the EC21 cable, I took mine out of the DK30 dock since my phone now fits in between both adapters.
I've never woken up to a not fully charged phone when using the knockoff one. I did notice it took longer to fully charge when I use knockoff at work with generic 1.0A block at work, but that's because I have music streaming as well as instant messages flooding in, so that isn't surprising.
after you mentioned that your knockoff cable had a thinner cable, I checked mine and saw that it was a hair thinner but almost the same thickness. I have attached pictures. is that what you're talking about in terms of "thinner"?
has anyone else purchased the cable that I bought off eBay and can give any other feedback on it?
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How are you guys checking the input power exactly? I tried an app but could never figure it out :/ lol
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this is the knockoff I have.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200964395431
as far as the EC21 cable, I took mine out of the DK30 dock since my phone now fits in between both adapters.
I've never woken up to a not fully charged phone when using the knockoff one. I did notice it took longer to fully charge when I use knockoff at work with generic 1.0A block at work, but that's because I have music streaming as well as instant messages flooding in, so that isn't surprising.
after you mentioned that your knockoff cable had a thinner cable, I checked mine and saw that it was a hair thinner but almost the same thickness. I have attached pictures. is that what you're talking about in terms of "thinner"?
has anyone else purchased the cable that I bought off eBay and can give any other feedback on it?
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It is hard to judge whether the thickness of the cable is the same for my knockoff, but I can say that my knock off is not the one you have posted the link for. The differences I can see though, are that the USB connector on mine is smaller, whereas the one you posted has the beefier/chunkier USB connector, suggesting that this cable allows it to charge via USB ports on PCs (the one on ebay you posted has the USB connector part looking similar in size to my EC-21, the version which is not the one included in the DK-30 set). Also the magnetic connector is a bit bigger on my knockoff (probably explaining the better sticking power to my Z Ultra compared to EC-21)
I forgot to mention in previous post that the only factor influencing the charge rate is the cable itself, because I have 2 x original Sony chargers (same model)
shaolin95 said:
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
Thanks!
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I bought one of those adapter. Not really a good deal. The magnet isn't too strong to offset the usb weight. And if u aren't careful u could inverse connection and. Well the phone did not die but u do have to reset it for it to work again.
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darth5zaft said:
I bought one of those adapter. Not really a good deal. The magnet isn't too strong to offset the usb weight. And if u aren't careful u could inverse connection and. Well the phone did not die but u do have to reset it for it to work again.
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Indeed. I got one and barely used it.
Just got my xzu. Been reading and searching for a genuine magnetic charging cable. From what I have read there is no official magnetic charger cable made by Sony. So is something like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Son...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item461de4c1f1 fake?