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Hi, wasn't sure whether to post this here or in development, so feel free to move it if necessary
I'm currently running Villainrom 12 and love it, but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
I've noticed villain have now got a 2.2 ROM out, but my only worry is that it does not include Sense UI. Can someone please point out the main differences between having the Sense UI and not?
and possibly conclude with there opinion on whether i should stick with Sense, or bin it for the new improved 2.2 Rom...?
cheers for any advice.
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but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
cheers for any advice.
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I believe you've answered your own question
but while I'm always looking for something new, I also want it to be Improved .
Ive flashed many ROM's before (Mainly Villain) and all Include Sense, but just want some advice on whether I should switch.
just some opinions and maybe a comparison of features/usability would help.
Could even start a small debate about the 2 different types of ROM's .
I've tried different Roms since Sept 2009, but I've always found stock ones are the most stable. I'm currently using stock 2.1 found un villain forums with a2sd and root. Very fast and with sense. Vanilla Roms tend to drain the battery very quickly. I'm a very heavy phone user and at work coverage is poor. Try them out, you might disagree with me. Oh, and let's not compare specific Roms, they're too different to one another.
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I also get bored with certain ROMs quite quickly and am changing constantly. I started off with Sense and then moved to Vanilla, have been back to Sense and then back again. I'm currently running Vanilla as like the look and feel of it. However I am thinking of going back to Sense, once I can find a good theme as I personally dislike the stock Rosie theme. That's the one thing that puts me off. That said the integration with Facebook and the widgets are a big plus. I know there are other apps and Launchers out there that can do similar things but not quite sure the integration is as good.
Another thing is that Sense UI was designed for the Hero and that means that with a good sense ROM all the hardware works as it should, meaning the LEDs (for notifications). I find these don't work with Vanilla ROMs as yet, although they're getting there.
If you want a change from Villain check out SenseHero. It looks great and is very fast and stable. The guy who created it is currently working on a newer version also.
God, that was long
DISCLAIMER: This thread contains NOOB questions!
Hi all,
First of all I guess most of you really dislike these kind of threads. But I am reading xda for 2 months now, searching all over the place for some answers. Probably read almost every guide etc. but I really can't get my head around this amount of information. So here I am with the age old question: Which rom should I install?
I ask this question here because of all the fora I visited xda seems the most knowledgeable.
So here is the situation. I was running Samsung 2.3.4 with launcher pro. But this was all a bit buggy and didn't feel right. So I was really glad to see the 2.3.5 update. I was still thinking this would contain gtalk video chat and ad hoc connection detection. But I was mistaken.
First I thought maybe install the most recent stock version. But as far as I can see this is also still 2.3.5 and doesn't include the previous mentioned features (correct me if I am wrong).
Currently I am this far as I probably "need" a custom wrong but the list seems endless and the one seems better than the other. And I feel a bit lost.
I looked at the following so far: Lite'ning; Oxygenrom; Cyanogen and Villainrom.
Lite'ning rom looks nice and fast but this much blue isn't good for the screen and I hear development is halted so probably not.
Villainrom, I can't find really good video's and I can't find that much info. So no for now.
Oxygenrom looks fast but I also not sure yet.
The best candidate seems to be Cyanogen right now.
So what am I looking for. Besides the two mentioned features above (gtalk video, ad hoc) I am not really sure if I am ready to unlock yet (but if it is necessary). Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either (duh) and I don't want to miss any features (FM radio for example). Oh and I am bit of a minimalist when it comes to looks. So that is secondary .
Hopefully I didn't bug you all to much and I am really looking forward to your opinions and experiences (good and bad). And I am still open for suggestions.
Carnelain
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Wait for II1 firmware .
jje
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only)
have a look in the android development forums (original & derivative) for a bigger choice, theres plenty out there.
Futhermore I am not really a fan of bugs either
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Sorry what exactly do you mean?
If you have to ask these questions, Cyanogen isnt for you (experienced users only
He means not for users who know little about flashing and roms ,Its the most difficult rom of them all .
You have read the posts but not understood them otherwise you would not be asking your question what rom .
You could go to one of the Rom Kitchens and build your own .
But in your shoes i would read the details on the latest custom roms what they have and whats missing .
Minimal look is stock or MIU .
PS I haven't really found a "which sellers of jigs are safe" thread. Does anybody know or is it an idea to start one?
Safe as in what ??? i dont see reports of unsafe jigs .
jje
I think OP's question is great, there's a lot of info on XDA but I can't find ONE stable/popular/regular thread discussing ROM vs ROM. The which ROM is best thread always pop up but then die after a couple of posts.
I think it would be great if users posted when they switch ROM commenting the switch, and if other users who tried more than 1 ROM posted their experience.
I'm a long time XDA user (Nexus One->Captivate->Nexus S->SGSII), have run a bunch of ROMs and read XDA EVERYDAY (multiple times lol) and read every post in LeoROM, Cognition, JKay and Siyah Threads but still I have the same question as the OP (was about to make a thread about it).
On my SGSII I've only run Cognition (since v1.0 to latest 1.5.1, gone through 2.3.3 and 2.3.4), also gone through all modems till latest KI4 and kernels (ninph, speedmod) till latest Siyah 1.8.
I've been thinking about switching ROM for some weeks now (want 2.3.5!) but couldn't decide, was about to convert to Leomar's ROM but then encountered other ROMs that look good and have a bunch of followers: Cristelko, DlevROM, TouchX Power, and now even more options!: Cyanogen stable out now and Cognition 2.3.5 announced coming soon. I hate being undecided!!! Was really decided on LeoROM, just about to switch, but now found all these other seemingly very good ROMs!
I'm a flash addict, love updating ROM, Modem & Kernel, but I HATE wiping! And I don't like to switch ROMs or update from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 without wiping. So I want to decide what to flash!!! I'm not going to try all of them (I don't have the time and I hate wiping) so I have to rely on other's opinions, reading a lot (following the changelogs) and then make a definite decision!
So please guys, anybody who has tried more than 1 ROM, can you share your experiences?
To check out the most popuar roms, look at how big the discussion thread is (reply, views).
Also a suggestion can be the one to check "veterans" signature, usually this ppl use the most stable/bugless firmware.
For my personal choice im on Cyanogen but yes, thats not for beginners.
My 2nd choice is the "nandroidbackup" of my Black S2 (check my signature) a lot easier to install and beginners ready
Also Miui is a good choice (and dosnt look like the stock tw rom) but got BT/TV Out bug for now, so if you need a stable bt it's not the choice.
To end my 5 cents, i think it's better for you, try out 3-4 roms and pick the one you feel better with.
I think the choice is pretty individual, some ppl loves a rom that some other really hate and so.
Its very simple their is no best rom its users choice . Your preferred rom may be a themed rom i hate themes .
jje
batista is realy fast and stable and has a pretty fresh look. but i have some batt issues with one of my three SII it should be something else
leomar75's revolution is pretty good and highly themeable
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insanity ii has pretty good batt live but is too simple for my likes
I don't recommend you flashing CM7 since it's harder than flashing samsung firmware based ROMS. Unless you really want it and then well, it's not that hard anyway.
Anyway, if you have root installing gtalk with video is easy, you just need a root explorer app, I use FIle Expert becasue it's free. Just follow this guide step by step and you're done http://samsunggalaxys2blog.com/sams...1-3-with-video-calling-for-samsung-galaxy-s2/
If you want a custom ROM, maybe you could try checkROM www.checkrom.com since it has good support for themes and stuff. And it is updating and will update with each relevant firmware release. And flashing it is just simple. Well hope it helps.
For last, if you really want to go with CM7, I can say that it's the best ROM I've flashed. I just started with it a couple of days ago and you can feel the smoothness inmediatly which I never had in samsung firmware. Anyway there are some bugs, you loose samsung apps like polaris office which I used a lot, FM radio I think doesn't work for now, and the camera app is worse than the samsung one that comes with the phone. But for me at least it's worth it, the main funcionality is there, bluetooth, wifi, etc.... Well, if you decide to flash it please don't use ROM manager becasue it won't work. I can help you with the steps i did if you want, so pm me if you need it because I probably won't be looking at this thread again.
Good luck!
I have used CM6 for Sony Xperia X10i. But really what I want is something that is lightweight and good battery life. I usually always install Nemus Launcher and a horde of my fav. apps. I am not concern about the themes as I never use the default themes. What I want is the built in SIP for GB over 3G. Can someone recommend a ROM for me to use? I have already rooted my phone.
I'd suggest VillainRom. Its stock, fast, and has the best battery of all KI3 roms in my opinion. It all really depends on what kind of rom what you want!
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Just trying out the X-Power ROM ... so far so good...
Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
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Thanks spradling for backing up my thread. I must admit I was a bit scared of by the previous replies. Nevertheless been ploughing through more threads and finally gave up on finding an answer. I guess everybody tries at one point and hopes they don't have to start a %*(^& I think I bricked my phone thread.
So which one to try. Well the heck with it cyanogen has the best looking website if they build there rom the same way what could go wrong.
Well a lot let me tell ya. It was a very feverish night and I had to flash my phone for like 20 times before I got it right (see this thread).
Nevertheless it works and it works great. I can seed there are some bugs. For example I had a slow response when waking up the phone but after going back and forth between the minimum cpu (200 to 500 MHz) that was gone.
Gtalk + video works (yay!) but still no ad hoc connection. I did some customization and my phone looks and feels slick now. I haven't tried the fm radio but it probably will not work. And I am missing the touch to focus in the camera app but that can be replaced (stil looking any suggestions).
The only thing that really worries me is the battery life. It shortened drastically but it could be me mishandling the battery.
Nevertheless I a pretty pleased with myself and my phone.
Hopefully this helps somebody
Carnelain
PS thanks for the offer tomascunill but I figured it out
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There's an lgCamera app in the market which I found better than the one that comes in CM7, you could try it and see if it works best for you. As for battery life, it seems to be better in the latest nightlies (the latest beeing 87). IF you're in stable version I HIGHLY suggest you to move to the latest nightly since there are lots of thing fixed that in "stable" version are not working right.
Thanks for the advice tomascunill. I tried the camera app and although it has the touch to focus feature I am not really blown away by it. Probably because of the lack of image stabilisation. But I'll find something that suits.
Futhermore I updated to the latest nightly. I wonder what issues are resolved. Does anybody know where to find the change logs? And I was wondering about another thing I installed the stable version because I expected it to be, well..., stable. But a better question might be how unstable are nightly's?
Must say I still like my phone but now the galaxy nexus (I liked nexus prime better) is out I feel like I jumped the gun. Well lets wait and see what cyanogen will do with ICS or what ICS stock looks like.
The best ROM is the one you choose. U need to test many rom to have your own opinion.
My favorite is LeoMar 2.7.1
I prefer stock ROM i mean without too much modifications.
LeoMar is a "stock" ROM that you can easily personnalised.
I use :
SpeedMod [Kernel]
Fly in [Animation]
And some mods.
This rom provides me the best battery life.
you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
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you could always flash a odex 2.3.5 ROM - would be mostly stock, have all the sammy apps/widgets etc etc. flash a kernel like siyah2.0 or latest speedmod - you can tweak a little bit, not stray too far from stock, and get better battery life with a custom kernel.
Everyone else here is right - CM7 is nothing like touchwiz and would be a big "leap" away from sammy/TW style interface
- x-power with siyah2.0 is a good combo!
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Don't get me wrong but I want to get as far away from touchwiz as possible. I probably have the term stock confused. I always thought it meant just android.
Best ROM threads are subjective.....
Best thing to do is take your time to read ROM threads and make a backup of ROM using then flash away find what ROM/Radio suits you best.
On that note thread closed.
Hi
I'm venturing here for the first time from the HTC section of the site, as I need to find out some information regarding this phone. Hopefully you lot can help me.
My sister has always been an iPhone user, but I've just managed to convince her to give Android a try. She doesn't want to customise her phone in any way whatsoever and just wants something simple. But given the fact I found a decent 12 month contract for either the Samsung or a HTC Sensation XE, and the ridiculously high prices Apple want for their iPhone, she has decided to listen to me and get one of these phones.
One of the major features she was interested in was that the text automatically resizes when you pinch to zoom on the web browser. What I need to know is if there is a stock ROM, as bug free as possible, that includes this feature on the SGS2? Preferably not a CM7 ROM as I think she'd find TouchWiz useful. But if it will only work on a CM ROM, then which is the most stable one? Then I can root it and install the ROM and give it back (and it will never be tweaked again by her). I just don't want her to encounter any lag and bugs which will put her off Android for good and I'll get a big "I told you so."
Alternatively I will just get her the Sensation (which I know has this feature), but tbh I think she would like the Samsung more for the slimness.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
*Edit* Opera Mobile is out of the question because there doesn't appear to be an obvious way of getting it to realise we're in the UK as opposed to the USA, which makes google search a bit useless.
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Hi
I'm venturing here for the first time from the HTC section of the site, as I need to find out some information regarding this phone. Hopefully you lot can help me.
My sister has always been an iPhone user, but I've just managed to convince her to give Android a try. She doesn't want to customise her phone in any way whatsoever and just wants something simple. But given the fact I found a decent 12 month contract for either the Samsung or a HTC Sensation XE, and the ridiculously high prices Apple want for their iPhone, she has decided to listen to me and get one of these phones.
One of the major features she was interested in was that the text automatically resizes when you pinch to zoom on the web browser. What I need to know is if there is a stock ROM, as bug free as possible, that includes this feature on the SGS2? Preferably not a CM7 ROM as I think she'd find TouchWiz useful. But if it will only work on a CM ROM, then which is the most stable one? Then I can root it and install the ROM and give it back (and it will never be tweaked again by her). I just don't want her to encounter any lag and bugs which will put her off Android for good and I'll get a big "I told you so."
Alternatively I will just get her the Sensation (which I know has this feature), but tbh I think she would like the Samsung more for the slimness.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
*Edit* Opera Mobile is out of the question because there doesn't appear to be an obvious way of getting it to realise we're in the UK as opposed to the USA, which makes google search a bit useless.
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Not being funny mate but you could of just googled the topic you are asking for and actually read reviews regarding the phones that you are talking about and could see the features that each phone is providing. anyway the pinch to zoom that you are talking about is a standard feature in all android phones if i am not mistaken. so no matter what rom you decide to flash you will have that option.
Now tell your siste the s2 is the phone to have for now...Then as you already know how to root phones install the latest stock rom from Intratechs thread. I would suggest any KL1 roms. Then flash jkay mods and then flash the ICS theme by Vertumus and your sister will love you forever.
Stock roms are pretty bug free and no need for tweaking..
EDIT: Stock browser is good enough and you can pinch to zoom also or use Maxthon browser from the market.
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Not being funny mate but you could of just googled the topic you are asking for and actually read reviews regarding the phones that you are talking about and could see the features that each phone is providing. anyway the pinch to zoom that you are talking about is a standard feature in all android phones if i am not mistaken. so no matter what rom you decide to flash you will have that option.
Now tell your siste the s2 is the phone to have for now...Then as you already know how to root phones install the latest stock rom from Intratechs thread. I would suggest any KL1 roms. Then flash jkay mods and then flash the ICS theme by Vertumus and your sister will love you forever.
Stock roms are pretty bug free and no need for tweaking..
EDIT: Stock browser is good enough and you can pinch to zoom also or use Maxthon browser from the market.
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Thanks for your reply. The thing is, she has to decide in the next day or so which one to get, because we get the impression this 12 month contract offer won't last too long. I know a fair bit about the Sensation XE, but from what I've read about the SGS2, it doesn't seem to natively support text reflow like other Android devices.
Threads like this gave me the impression:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1062327.html
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-international/350823-how-get-text-reflow-working.html
She doesn't really want to have to double tap to resize text. Also, I think she would just prefer to stick with the stock browser. If I was getting the phone for myself, I would trial and error every ROM and decide for myself but instead with this, I'll only have a few hours at most to sort it out for her and give her the phone. So definitely don't have time to be looking at every ROM and deciding.
It would certainly be easier getting the Sensation, but I'd rather get her the Galaxy S2, even though I personally chose an EVO 3D over it. (for a ridiculously cheap price too)
Thanks for your suggestion, and I will definitely be looking into that ROM if she gets the GS2
Man, just get her the S2 and don't do anything to it. It doesn't really need anything. And yes, pinch to zoom works in the browser, same as it did when I was using the S1.
Seriously, for her purposes don't put a custom rom on it. If you want to root it, install kies program (for drivers, comes with the phone) then Odin (flashing program/tool) and flash cf root. That way you will have cwm recovery and you can backup the current rom if you ever do flash custom.
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Man, just get her the S2 and don't do anything to it. It doesn't really need anything. And yes, pinch to zoom works in the browser, same as it did when I was using the S1.
Seriously, for her purposes don't put a custom rom on it. If you want to root it, install kies program (for drivers, comes with the phone) then Odin (flashing program/tool) and flash cf root. That way you will have cwm recovery and you can backup the current rom if you ever do flash custom.
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It's not pinch to zoom I'm talking about. I'm talking about text reflow when zooming in on the browser. The reason I'm also considering the Sensation is because I find the Sense UI a hell of a lot better than the alternatives. With the Sensation I won't need to change anything, but with the Samsung I'm hearing it doesn't reflow text in the browser, which, in fairness, will suck bigtime.
If this big ommision can be sorted out easily without having to use other browsers, then I'd happily get her a GS2. But, for everything else, I've always thought the Sense UI is great, even if the GS2 is slimmer, has a better screen and is more powerful.
After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
Now, my first instinct is to grab the sucker, root it, put CyanogenMOD on it. But, that is the "hacker" in me talking.
I don't want to "ruin" her experience. So, do I leave the phone "as is" with the TouchWiz on it? Do I install a custom ROM?
I know ZERO about the phone as I've only purchased Nexus devices for myself (Yes, I have a N4 - complete with broken glass back already).
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
Same with my other half, I ended up leaving Touchwiz on it as everything else was too difficult for her and I suppose Touchwiz is simple, isn't it?
Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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She knows nothing about that... remember she is coming from an iPhone. So iPhone users aren't really as technical / geeky as us Android users are. :good:
I am going to have to root it though. I just realized that Google Wallet is not allowed to be installed on the device. She REALLY wants that. So a "root" is a definite now at this point.
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Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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I'd say go with the Sammy-based ROMs (the ones in the regular development section) so it has all the TW features, but put Domination theme on it to give it an AOSP look, as I hate the TW design. You can try null rom, it has domination included. Also check out JKay framework in original development and see if you want to use that as well, it's included in the null rom too.
dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
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dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
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You can have UltimaROM. It is a Sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 3 months.
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You can have UltimaROM. It is a sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 4 months.
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Ultimarom is sammy or aosp ?
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sammy
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Official XXELLA 4.1.2 Jellybean.
Jelly Bean Domination - True AOSP style
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i thought ... so is just ... style
Girls like simple stock, but root and a decent kernel will help her (no ads etc and better sound/performance)
I have a N7 and love it. For the S3, try the most popular rom with lots of support and gui installer (omega v37) to start with. It has lots of different themes to try from the kitchen as well as mods etc. It's very stable. I use the boeffla kernel, close to stock, fantastic sound enhancements, she'll love it... Don't forget to remove the bloat!
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usafle said:
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
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The moment you root it, thr device status will change to "modified" n from that moment you wont get any official updates, you have to rely on XDA, n must say XDA is not doing bad for updates...
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usafle said:
After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
....I don't want to "ruin" her experience. ....
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
I would suggest keeping it stock so it has all the features but putting nova launcher on to keep it a consistent user experience with her nexus 7.
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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When he gets it back, though, it'll be obvious it's been modified and the guy won't get any more support. The phone will probably behave differently too.
Cyanogenmod might be a little too intimate for an android virgin, stick to only touchwiz.
And getting the xella kernel is recommended to be on the safe-er side of the sudden death bug (or any other kernel with the bug fix).
You my friend, have issues! LOL
spamtrash said:
As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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I recommend the crDroid rom. This one has a lot of options to choose, so you can install only what you need.
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
_INSPIREed said:
You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Canguy247 said:
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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pm sent
Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
2$HAYNE
I'm going to flash helly right now.
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