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Currently S4 is rooted with TWRP custom recovery. Don't want to lose root access and I read that if you have a custom recovery the OTA update will fail. The update downloaded but not installed yet. I don't want the notification to keep prompting me to install. If I try to install the update, will it fail and not prompt me any notification?
It would probably fail to install because of twrp recovery. Freeze sdm 1.0 to stop the notification from popping up.
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As stated, Use Titanium to freeze SDM 1.0 and that should removed the annoying pop up that asks you to install the update. Worked for me.
So I was forced to "schedule" the update for 6AM on my rooted/CWM recovery S4. There was no way to continue or go back. I just froze sdm 1.0. Will this block the update ? Can anyone confirm it will fail due to the custom recovery ? Haven't installed a custom ROM (probably CM 10.1) yet as I'm waiting for it to settle a little more.
balaams_ass said:
So I was forced to "schedule" the update for 6AM on my rooted/CWM recovery S4. There was no way to continue or go back. I just froze sdm 1.0. Will this block the update ? Can anyone confirm it will fail due to the custom recovery ? Haven't installed a custom ROM (probably CM 10.1) yet as I'm waiting for it to settle a little more.
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It will block the ota. I had your exact situation. If you want to make sure for peace of mind, back up a couple system apps then uninstall them or freezem. Or you could just manually delete the ota files. But make sure to freeze sdm as was stated above.
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Surge1223 said:
It will block the ota. I had your exact situation. If you want to make sure for peace of mind, back up a couple system apps then uninstall them or freezem. Or you could just manually delete the ota files. But make sure to freeze sdm as was stated above.
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I freezed SDM and how would you manually delete the OTA files? I know verizon downloaded the file since it keeps on prompting me to install it
They are usually in /data/fota/ , but I haven't tried extracting them on a Galaxy phone before so I'm not sure if you will need to use adb to extract the files. You dont need to do this, I was just saying its an option.
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Surge1223 said:
They are usually in /data/fota/ , but I haven't tried extracting them on a Galaxy phone before so I'm not sure if you will need to use adb to extract the files. You dont need to do this, I was just saying its an option.
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Thanks.. I ended up just deleting the update since its 327MB of unwanted space and Froze SDM + FWupdater.
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
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scottgalit61 said:
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
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/system/app/SDM.apk. if you dont have it try to find com.samsung.sdm in /data/data/
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scottgalit61 said:
Hey guys where can i find the SDM 1.0 you are referring to.. thanks
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Go into Titanium Backup under Backup/Restore and freeze it there. Also freeze FWUpdate for good measure.
So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Another simple tip, if you have to Odin after a soft brick, immediately start airplane mode until the rooting process is done. Me personally I keep the RomToolbox apk on my SD card so I don't even have to sign in to download.
Great tips!!
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So the ota wont try to install itself. I see a lot of people annoyed with ota notifications. this is the solution
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Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
PaintDrinkingPete said:
Just so I'm 100% sure I'm safe...
(I am rooted and thought I had already taken care of this, but obviously had not...)
I had an OTA notification waiting for me when I woke up this morning. I declined and it said something to the effect that it would automatically try again at 0100 (1 AM) and make sure my phone was charged and yada, yada, yada...
After that, I immediately renamed \system\app\sdm.apk to "SDM.bak" (I also renamed FWUpgrade.apk in the same manner as directed in another post I saw).
So...that's all I should have to do right? Is there a downloaded update hanging out somewhere that needs to be deleted as well? My phone won't attempt to install this later at 0100 tonight?
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The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
keith.mcintyre26 said:
The actual OTA download will be located in /cache. Delete with root explorer.
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10ECN said:
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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Thanks!
10ECN said:
The download goes into the Data/FOTA folder. Find that and remove all permissions. I cant take credit for that one because I read it from another user that confirmed it stopped the OTA.
1. Open Root Browser
2. Navigate to data/fota
3. Long Press and select Permissions
4. Uncheck all boxes making it 0000
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would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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mugenfa5 said:
would it be better just to delete the update? The file is about 327MB and that's unwanted space being used
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I think the logic behind leaving the update file there, but with permissions removed is because that would effectively block the update from being re-downloaded again, or being run by the updater.
Granted, that point is probably moot if the correct updater apps are already frozen, but it's an extra layer of assurance.
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jhasty01 said:
How are you renaming sdm? I am using ES as root and it's not letting me.
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I used Root explorer...be sure to mount the directory as "read/write"
I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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jhasty01 said:
I ended up moving the two apk's to a backup folder on my sdcard, however after reboot I am still getting the prompt. I did not move the .odex files. Doing that now..
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Perhaps you only copied them?
FWIW, the FWupgrade.apk didn't have an associated odex file on mine.
It didn't actually move sdm, but rather copied it. To fix sdm and renove notification for update, I used Titanium Backup to create a backup thrn uninstalled the apk. Hope this helps.
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I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
Freezing is all you need. These other extra precautions are not necessary.
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reybie said:
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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You don't even need Titanium backup. I never see it mentioned here so I don't know if anyone knows it exists, but I think the free app "System Tuner" by 3c is much better that Titanium and has way more features.
DerekZ10 said:
I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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reybie said:
I was wondering about the same thing why people are renaming and moving files. Maybe they don't have titanium backup to freeze it?
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Yeah, I just prefer to manually rename/remove files that I know for a fact I don't want running. Freezing apps via TiB works well for bloatware and stuff like that...stuff that I *may* want to activate again later, but in this case, I'm 100% sure I do NOT want to run any OTA updates.
Most people use titanium back up or other apps because a lot of users don't understand file and folder permissions or how to run commands with adb or terminal etc. Manually doing it in cases like this is good so you know that its disabled. Especially when its something like this.
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DerekZ10 said:
I just froze SDM and FWUpgrade. Is that not good enough? Why is everyone renaming and deleting it?
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That's what I did and No Update for Me! Also, being on a custom recovery helps!
My wife and I both have rooted L9 and used that script in /etc which freezes all the T-Mobile apps.
She was able to do the ota update but my phone shows dead android when I try it.
Any idea how I can get my upgrade to work?
The biggest difference I can think of between our phones is that I'm using link2sd and she's not.
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I was in the same boat this morning until I
downloaded the JB kdz file with link in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43646179&postcount=276
flashed my phone with instruction in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085344
szczys said:
My wife and I both have rooted L9 and used that script in /etc which freezes all the T-Mobile apps.
She was able to do the ota update but my phone shows dead android when I try it.
Any idea how I can get my upgrade to work?
The biggest difference I can think of between our phones is that I'm using link2sd and she's not.
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Dude link2sd is your problem. Unlink apps and uninstall link2sd. Remember to uninstall busybox as well. Anything that modified the build.prop or system. Install voodoo ota rootkeeper and protect your root. Good luck!
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szczys said:
My wife and I both have rooted L9 and used that script in /etc which freezes all the T-Mobile apps.
She was able to do the ota update but my phone shows dead android when I try it.
Any idea how I can get my upgrade to work?
The biggest difference I can think of between our phones is that I'm using link2sd and she's not.
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Unfreeze the T-Mobile apps that you froze. Then uninstall link2sd... Try updating now and give me results.. And the only .apk that should be frozen is lookout security and LGsetupwizard.
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geeshiet said:
Unfreeze the T-Mobile apps that you froze. Then uninstall link2sd... Try updating now and give me results.. And the only .apk that should be frozen is lookout security and LGsetupwizard.
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No Dice, still getting dead android:
Unlinked all apps and unistalled Link2sd
Uninstalled Busybox
Unfroze everything except the two apks mentioned
I did use the Mass Storage script from this thread. It was installed via CWM. Could that be causing the problem? If so, what should I do to fix it?
Now I've gone and made a mess.
I didn't uninstall BusyBox, I only uninstalled the BusyBox installer APK. Now I can't reinstall that package to use it to remove the actual busybox binary. When I try to install Stericson's BusyBox installer from google play store I get "error downloading" RPC:S-5:AEC-0
Any idea where I should go from here?
szczys said:
Now I've gone and made a mess.
I didn't uninstall BusyBox, I only uninstalled the BusyBox installer APK. Now I can't reinstall that package to use it to remove the actual busybox binary. When I try to install Stericson's BusyBox installer from google play store I get "error downloading" RPC:S-5:AEC-0
Any idea where I should go from here?
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Download a nandroid backup and you will have no worries. But you should make your own stock backup before doing any mods sui you won't have this problem again.
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Nathan.7118391 said:
Download a nandroid backup and you will have no worries. But you should make your own stock backup before doing any mods sui you won't have this problem again.
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Thanks, I'm all set now.
Here's what I did:
Installed a rooted V20D nandroid from the sticky thread
Installed BusyBox
Used Voodoo Rootkeeper to preserve root
Installed the OTA upgrade (clear data for Google Services Framework then check for update in the settings menu to force this)
Upgraded SuperSU binary
Restored Root (I might have done this before the SuperSU binary upgrade)
Let the phone fully update itself
Reboot into CWM
Make an initial backup
Wipe all data and cache
Make a clean backup for the next time this happens (per Nathan's advice)
Restore the initial backup
Perfect glad I could help.
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Recently rooted s4. I tried using Rom Toolbox to uninstall some of the factory bloatware and it doesn't work. It goes through the motions as if it's uninstalling it, a popup with a percentage comes up, finishes and closes but the apps are still there. How exactly do I go about removing some of this awful bloatware?
I prefer to use tibu backup or root explorer. Most file browsers you have to grant read write privileges or it wont work.
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Use link2sd for removing system apps
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Must be rooted, TiBU and or Root Explorer...TiBu is the safest, and you may want to freeze them first to see if you have issues, then if you don't, delete them.
Good luck...
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Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
Yes, once you root the phone you can download Titanium backup (full version) and freeze SDM
As I believe that the SDM is the file that manages the communication for updates
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Well that depends. Progress is definitely being made towards another bootloader unlock. However, the 4.4 update would possibly introduce even more security that the devs haven't seen before.
But using titanium or just renaming sdm.apk to sdm.bak with a file explorer (must be rooted) will stop the updates.
newshook said:
Thinking of rooting the phone but know 4.4 is around the cornor. Is there anyway I can stop the OTA, or is 4.4 something worth trying?
Thanks!
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Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
Terri M said:
Once you root download and install TitaniumBackup and the key (the money you spend for the key is really worth it!) Then you can freeze SDM as well as FWUpgrade. This will prevent your phone from upgrading.
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newshook said:
I used adb to rename both, I hope that would be ok too,? Next I want to get rid of KNOX, Backup Assistant, Verizon Mobile Security, and Google+. Is it safe to remove them too?
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Your BEST bet is to use TitaniumBackup and make a backup of all the files you want to "get rid of". Once you make those backups, you can have TitaniumBackup uninstall those apps. Now if something happens you can easily reinstall those apps through TitaniumBackup. You can also have TitaniumBackup backup location to be your extSdCard and not on your phone, this way your backups aren't eating up space on the sdcard (internal sdcard)
I have frozen ( thru TitaniumBackup) all the apps you are talking about and I'm not having any problems.
Hope this helps!
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Yea I can't imagine stock 4.4 will be anything but more difficult for the XDA gods to find an exploit.
Thank god for swappa and people selling their mdk s4's .
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rest assured, that every subsequent firmware release by samsung/verizon will lock down whatever exploits we are using even more.
Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
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Summary of my system: I have a SPRINT SPH-L720T MK5 4.3 model phone. I am rooted with k1mu SafeRoot and have about twelve system apps (including the touchwiz launchers) frozen with Titanium backup. I use nova launcher as my primary launcher. I wish to remain rooted and according to things I read on the saferoot thread, I cannot receive OTA updates while apps are frozen, yet I received new notification this morning on my phone that says "System Update Downloaded. Touch to install".
I read the thread. I froze FWUpgrade. Not sure what SDM stands for, and I don't see a SDM in the list but when I type SDM in the filter it brings up a service called "System Update 1.8.8". I froze it also, assuming it's the right one.
I restarted the phone and the "System update downloaded. Touch to install" notification is still on my screen.
1) Is there any way to get rid of the notification after it has already spawned? I don't want to accidentally click on it at a later time.
2) and Is there any way to tell what the update actually is before launching it? Maybe it's not 4.4 and I can launch it.
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Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
k1mu said:
Go to /cache/fota/ on your phone. There will be an Update.zip. Delete or rename that and the update prompt will go away.
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I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
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I went to the top of the tree and found the cache folder but there were no sub folders (i.e. "fota"). I also ran a search on the entire tree for a "fota" folder and did not find one. I also ran a search on the entire tree for "update.zip" and didn't find one.
Is it possible, that my freezing the "FWUpgrade" and "System Update 1.8.8" automatically removed the fota folder and the update.zip? That seems unlikely.
or is it possible that I'm dealing with a completely different update (perhaps it's not 4.4, maybe it's something else all together)?
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
k1mu said:
Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Ran a search across my whole device for OTApkg.zip. No file found.
Please allow me to restate a few things:
1) I have no subfolder under "/cache". I do not have a "fumo" or "fota". I have nothing in my "/cache" folder.
2) On my Sprint SPH-L720T Tri Band phone, I do not have a "SDM" app process. When I type "SDM" in my titanium backup, it brings up a app process called "System Update 1.8.8". I don't know if I should have froze this, but I did.
3) I ran a search across my whole device for *.zip to return all .zip files. I did find a "/system/etc/security/otacerts.zip". Not sure if I should do anything with that.
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Sorry, broken memory - looking at my notes it's actually /cache/fumo/OTApkg.zip
Note that you have to be root to view the contents of the /cache folder.
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Also, I am rooted. I used your saferoot two months ago. I just went into my file manager app and found a root option. I turned it on and the file manager app requested super user privilege which I granted. Now I can see sub folders under cache, but none of them match your description.
I do see a obvious file called " 0de568e284baa2bbcb25305b099be7cc415386de.USER_L720T_SPT_MK5_to_NAF_Update_FWD.zip". See enclosed pic.
I moved it to my sd card. Do you think I'm OK to press the update option now to make it go away?
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Just freeze sdm in titanium
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Maduro78 said:
Just freeze sdm in titanium
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There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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bgmg said:
There is no sdm on my model. Read the entire thread. It's not very long.
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This is a misplaced thread.
bgmg doesn't have a Verizon phone, it's a Sprint phone. That's why suggestions to freeze SDM/FWUpdate don't work.