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I recently posted a thread on how I can start programming geared towards the mobile platforms.
I would like to develop apps for more than one mobile platform. However I just have access to an Android device (SE Xperia X10), iPhone 4, and an iPad 2.
Smartphones are not like candies, that you can go pickup at a cheap store.
I mean how and where can I and other people who want to develop apps for specific platforms get free phones for testing and using the apps we develop?
The emulator that is included with the SDKs are not always the best way to test.
Any suggestions? All help is appreciated
EDIT: Forgot to mention that recently Windows Phone called over WebOS developers to develop applications on the WP platform, and Windows gave the developers free devices. But there are not many WebOS devs out there..
You can always nag at google for a nexus. Other than that, make your app, use revenue for phones.
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Smokeey said:
You can always nag at google for a nexus. Other than that, make your app, use revenue for phones.
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Thanks a lot, bumping for more suggestions.
Another way is to show your work off to other devices communities here on xda and maybe ask them them to "donate a device" in return for you developing for their specific device. If 10-20 ppl within a community pitch in atleast $10, that's $100-$200 that can be used towards purchasing a reburbished phone on amazon, or ebay. I've seen some phones go for $50-$80 (given they have had ESN's, etc.) But usually I dnt think you need a phone in service to develop for it, unless the app (or whatever your developing) strictly requires you to have service on it to fully test
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Ceelos09 said:
Another way is to show your work off to other devices communities here on xda and maybe ask them them to "donate a device" in return for you developing for their specific device. If 10-20 ppl within a community pitch in atleast $10, that's $100-$200 that can be used towards purchasing a reburbished phone on amazon, or ebay. I've seen some phones go for $50-$80 (given they have had ESN's, etc.) But usually I dnt think you need a phone in service to develop for it, unless the app (or whatever your developing) strictly requires you to have service on it to fully test
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Thanks a lot man. Not sure if someone would want a specific app by donating a device. Donating few amount of money by a few people would work. But I'll prefer to get a whole device free from, say a company.
I dont think its worth that much, for community members to put their money in.
Thanks a lot, ZA
Z!GZA!G said:
Thanks a lot man. Not sure if someone would want a specific app by donating a device. Donating few amount of money by a few people would work. But I'll prefer to get a whole device free from, say a company.
I dont think its worth that much, for community members to put their money in.
Thanks a lot, ZA
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Well, I guess it would depend on if your app is in high demand or not, would be the deciding factor in whether people are willing to donate to you.
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Why don't you try writing X company and ask them. Its not uncommon for them to do this, but im sure they aren't giving out phones to anybody. Why don't you get some credentials under your belt before asking though. Its like asking a company to buy and sponsor an f1 car for you but you don't even know how to put air in the tires on a go cart.
I voided my warranty.
Why don't you just build an App first for your available phones? Then if someone gets interested they might donate to you.
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Thanks Everyone for your suggestions. I really appreciate it.
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Why don't you just build an App first for your available phones? Then if someone gets interested they might donate to you.
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I just have one Android phone and its not working. Thanks though.
The good news is that the emulators are actually pretty good. They are not a perfect substitute for on device testing, but I have found very few bugs/behaviors that were different on the emulator than on a device.
If you just are sure to test your layouts on all of your supported screen sizes, you should be ok. There is good, up-to-date information on what devices are out in the wild, provided by google: Platform Versions/Screen Sizes.
Do the best that you can, release your app, and watch for feedback from owner's of devices other than yours.
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The good news is that the emulators are actually pretty good. They are not a perfect substitute for on device testing, but I have found very few bugs/behaviors that were different on the emulator than on a device.
If you just are sure to test your layouts on all of your supported screen sizes, you should be ok. There is good, up-to-date information on what devices are out in the wild, provided by google: Platform Versions/Screen Sizes.
Do the best that you can, release your app, and watch for feedback from owner's of devices other than yours.
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Yes I guess I will have to use emulators for now. Thanks a lot man.
Just for the record. HP has currently stopped the loaning of developer phones.
I want HTC to give me an EVO 3D or a Sensation for development
andreigherghe said:
I want HTC to give me an EVO 3D or a Sensation for development
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If you guys get a link Please Post!
I'd like a Development phone also....
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If you guys get a link Please Post!
I'd like a Development phone also....
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I wish we could get a link. Who wouldn't want a free development device?
i think most of the posters in this thread just want a free device. and keep adding the adjective "development" in front of it like it's cool or something.
Try some developer contests. Microsoft still has some offering Windows Phone as prizes.
This is a 3-year-old thread
Pushing this up since I'm a student and the prices for high-end devices now are quite high. I would like to develop for the community, but the bottleneck is that I can only stick to my poor abused Nexus 4
There's lots of devices out there, tablets, wearables, but I don't have the budget to buy them and use for testing, especially that new techs come out so often and upgrading to to-date devices is quite costly.
What do you guys think? Any success story here?
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Devs: Anyone have the same feeling that Samsung devices are most troublesome (kindof)? Always getting complaints from Samsung users...
I just went the tried and true (yet probably the hardest) way and attempted to contact manufacturers directly. Still trying to work with several. Hopefully things work out.
This may be a bone head old news post, but it's something I just noticed. I usually check for the free amazon app on my phone each morning but forgot to this morning so I checked online. This is when I noticed a "Test Drive" button as pictured below. I havn't had a chance to play with it yet, but wondering if others have and if, in fact, this is nothing new and I just failed to notice.
Nothing new. .. But still good for those that dont want to install the app before hand and see how it is
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I haven't actually seen anything that's even worth test driving in that section.
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I haven't actually seen anything that's even worth test driving in that section.
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so it's only certain apps then? Perhaps this is why I never noticed. Only time I use web based to to provide a link to someone on here so I don't spend much dwell time.
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so it's only certain apps then? Perhaps this is why I never noticed. Only time I use web based to to provide a link to someone on here so I don't spend much dwell time.
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yea i think it's only certain apps, usually useless stuff like games.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/no-flash-for-android-41-jelly-bean-users/11433
"In many cases users of uncertified devices have been able to download the Flash Player from the Google Play Store, and in most cases it worked. However, with Android 4.1 this is no longer going to be the case, as we have not continued developing and testing Flash Player for this new version of Android and its available browser options. "
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Looking ahead, Adobe will be blocking Flash runtime downloads. “Beginning August 15th we will use the configuration settings in the Google Play Store to limit continued access to Flash Player updates to only those devices that have Flash Player already installed. Devices that do not have Flash Player already installed are increasingly likely to be incompatible with Flash Player and will no longer be able to install it from the Google Play Store after August 15th.”
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I love Flash player! :crying: I can't wait to upgrade to 4.1 and lose functionality!
There are many ways around it lol
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Meh unneeded anymore. HTML5 is more powerful and lighter weight
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While I agree that HTML 5 is strictly better, that does not mean that all the creators with hundreds of hours of experience in Flash are simply going to switch. Even with the dominance of the iPad in the tablet market and the popularity of the iPhone there is still tons of content being developed in flash. Here's hoping that android dropping Flash support will be the kick in the pants the internet community needs to get moving onto the HTML5 bandwagon.
This seems to imply that it's not just Google making the decision and Adobe is on board. Even so, I worry that manufacturers are still going to bundle it with devices in an attempt to differentiate from the iPhone.
Of course, this wont matter if Jellybean faces the same dismal adoption rate Ice Cream Sandwich did, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
Posted this last night in the Original JB thread. Even though will never be supported with 4.1 I almost guarantee it will work fine if installing manually be who knows.
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Look on Adobe's website... It all makes sense as to why they aren't due to past comments made by Adobe. Now what stinks is the extinction of New installations of Flash on ANY Android OS after August 15th but devices that already have it are allowed to keep it. Oh well, just make sure you install manually after getting JB. I am almost positive it will work due to sane source code and only very minor differences in newer revision of Android OS
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Whats flash?
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Meh unneeded anymore. HTML5 is more powerful and lighter weight
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Tell that to my corporate website that still uses Flash exclusively.
Yeah, HTML5 is great & all but it's not adopted everywhere.
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Tell that to my corporate website that still uses Flash exclusively.
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Companies that fail to adopt technology are pretty doomed to fail in general.
What's better about html 5? Usually if something is so great people and/or businesses would want to use it. In this case it seems like it is kind of being forced on people.
Another way around it which I'm pretty sure will happen is that when Devs make their custom ROMS, they'll find a way to bake in flash so it won't be an issue. But since our phones came with it, I'm not worried in the least
As a SysAdmin view THANK GOD! they are getting rid of it. Flash is clumsy and very vulnerable, I think that they should focus (and everyone else) in HTML5 and other technology that will deliver better results without the burden of hogging resources and killing security.
Don't get me wrong, its a great technology and it ushered us to an era of great content but its about time we move on.
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What's better about html 5? Usually if something is so great people and/or businesses would want to use it. In this case it seems like it is kind of being forced on people.
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It's not that HTML5 is better than flash; there are arguments going both ways. The reason why *most* people like HTML5 is because it does not require a special plugin to be downloaded in order to view the specialized content; your browser does all the work necessary. In order to view flash content, you MUST download the Adobe Flash Player plugin. This is how why Steve Jobs chose not to go with Flash (aside from his personal vendetta that he thinks Adobe stole Flash from him); when asked why he refused to use flash, he said that HTML5 can handle anything flash can and more.
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It's not that HTML5 is better than flash; there are arguments going both ways. The reason why *most* people like HTML5 is because it does not require a special plugin to be downloaded in order to view the specialized content; your browser does all the work necessary. In order to view flash content, you MUST download the Adobe Flash Player plugin. This is how why Steve Jobs chose not to go with Flash (aside from his personal vendetta that he thinks Adobe stole Flash from him); when asked why he refused to use flash, he said that HTML5 can handle anything flash can and more.
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Amen brother! preach that good word!
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As a SysAdmin view THANK GOD! they are getting rid of it. Flash is clumsy and very vulnerable, I think that they should focus (and everyone else) in HTML5 and other technology that will deliver better results without the burden of hogging resources and killing security.
Don't get me wrong, its a great technology and it ushered us to an era of great content but its about time we move on.
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Couldn't agree more with ya! ;D
pogibry said:
It's not that HTML5 is better than flash; there are arguments going both ways. The reason why *most* people like HTML5 is because it does not require a special plugin to be downloaded in order to view the specialized content.
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So it's not just me. I hate when I go to do something and there is a big grey box that says to download the plugin to view this content...
Kcarpenter said:
Companies that fail to adopt technology are pretty doomed to fail in general.
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Companies usual moto: If it's not broke, don't fix it. Why adopt a new technology when Flash has proven enough for them for their business needs?
there is a JB thread already....
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First app
I have developed a simple app to fire your camera shutter for most brands
Canon ,Nikon ,Sony ,Pentax.
to choose between cameras just slide right or left.
Google Play link
Here
This app price is 1.50$
Original remote over 25$.
second app
This app is used to shoot TimeLapse Videos and it also support Canon ,Nikon ,Sony and Pentax.
its easy to use.
Google Play Link
Here
app price 2.50$
Canon T3-
Bought both apps a few weeks ago and just getting around to trying them out. Not sure how this is supposed to work. It's rather straight forward; takes you straight to the remote, but when I hit both the xD and xxxD buttons in the app nothing happens on the camera. Do I need the camera in a specific mode? Trying in full auto.
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Canon T3-
Bought both apps a few weeks ago and just getting around to trying them out. Not sure how this is supposed to work. It's rather straight forward; takes you straight to the remote, but when I hit both the xD and xxxD buttons in the app nothing happens on the camera. Do I need the camera in a specific mode? Trying in full auto.
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yes set the drive mode to 2sec/remote this will activate the Infrared receiver in the camera.
Ahh... The T3 doesn't have infared. I probably should have checked that out beforehand, but you might want to specify that in your posts. Keep the $, I appreciate the development.
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Ahh... The T3 doesn't have infared. I probably should have checked that out beforehand, but you might want to specify that in your posts. Keep the $, I appreciate the development.
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this is realy hard to list all cameras thats has no infrared port.
I mean my app support 7 DSLRs companies each company has at least 15 camera ,I dont think the app description will allow this much of words.
and please send the gmail account you used to purchase the app so I can refund you. I insist.
works with T2i's
all2i said:
this is realy hard to list all cameras thats has no infrared port.
I mean my app support 7 DSLRs companies each company has at least 15 camera ,I dont think the app description will allow this much of words.
and please send the gmail account you used to purchase the app so I can refund you. I insist.
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I'm not saying list every compatible camera. I'm saying maybe specify "infared remote capability". That should sum it up don't ya think? Again- my fault; I shoulda realized I didn't have remote capability beforehand.
And no, I really don't want the money back. I like that you're developing for DSLR's and I don't miss the few dollars. :good: Just gives me one extra reason to buy the T4i I've been thinking about.
Awesome man. I just purchased and it's working quite well on my SONY a77.
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I'm not saying list every compatible camera. I'm saying maybe specify "infared remote capability". That should sum it up don't ya think? Again- my fault; I shoulda realized I didn't have remote capability beforehand.
And no, I really don't want the money back. I like that you're developing for DSLR's and I don't miss the few dollars. :good: Just gives me one extra reason to buy the T4i I've been thinking about.
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the T4i or 650D is great choice and dont believe that there is DSLR for beginners or advanced and I myself have two categories DSLR for rich people and DSLR for regular people.
try to spend money on prime lenses rather expensive DSLR.
I bought the canon 7d a year ago and I really regret because my intentions is for video more then photography what I mean is I am missing the awesome flexible screen on the xxxD series and the 60D.
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Awesome man. I just purchased and it's working quite well on my SONY a77.
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glad it works and thanks for the review
I did find one thing, which I'm sure will be fixed in later release. The thing is that the app seems to be still active and running once you closed the app using the return button. Other than it works without any issues.
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I did find one thing, which I'm sure will be fixed in later release. The thing is that the app seems to be still active and running once you closed the app using the return button. Other than it works without any issues.
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the story about this some user contacted me and told me that he had a problem and it was whenever the app starts it shows the canon remote and he had to slide twice until he reaches the sony remote and complaining about the loading time when the app starts.
so what I did is whenever you start the app for the first time the app will recognise your choice for ever and the startup screen will not show except for the first time or the cache cleared by restart the phone or clear it manually.
so dont worry the app is not running ,even if its running it will consume any power.
I did that so I dont want to confuse the use by adding settings and this the beauty about this app just choose your camera brand and it will remmeber it for ever.
Hey OP, I don't mean to thread cap but just curious.
What are the advantages to your application for $2.5 over the popular free DSLR Remote app?
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Hey OP, I don't mean to thread cap but just curious.
What are the advantages to your application for $2.5 over the popular free DSLR Remote app?
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my app is more simple and has no setting.
by the way my app cost 1.5$
You aren't allowed to sell warez. It's in the rules.
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I have tried Evernote and it's just "ehhh" to me. Want a great note taking app that I can sync with my computer and phone preferably. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help/suggest things!!
Evernote!
What exactly does it lack for you?
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Evernote!
What exactly does it lack for you?
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Joe0113 said:
I have tried Evernote and it's just "ehhh" to me. Want a great note taking app that I can sync with my computer and phone preferably. Thanks in advance to anyone that can help/suggest things!!
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+1 for Evernote.
From a syncing and editing perspective, you'll be hard pressed find a more seamless app.
Google Docs + Google Drive is another alternative, though involves more than you'd probably like simply to take and sync notes.
Personnaly, I use JotterPadX, which is really great for taking notes, and supports sync with Dropbox !
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Google Drive is overkill (and, in terms of privacy, highly suspicious).
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Google Drive is overkill (and, in terms of privacy, highly suspicious).
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lol....
Welp, when you make the commitment to using a phone that runs an O/S highly dependent upon making use of Google services and integration, you choose to accept that more often than not, many apps and features are going to be considered overkill.
"lol".
1. No one is forced to use Google services on Android.
2. I prefer apps which follow the "one tool - one purpose" paradigm, and I've been able to find a lot of them over the last few months.
"lololol".
Get your facts straight.
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"lol".
1. No one is forced to use Google services on Android.
2. I prefer apps which follow the "one tool - one purpose" paradigm, and I've been able to find a lot of them over the last few months.
"lololol".
Get your facts straight.
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Agree with you, we don't have to be Google slaves. Google knows almost everything but that's not a reason to say " Ok Google, spy all my data with all your services ". There's a lot of apps which are maybe less performant, or with less features, but which respect as much as possible our privacy.
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Rosa Elefant said:
"lol".
1. No one is forced to use Google services on Android.
2. I prefer apps which follow the "one tool - one purpose" paradigm, and I've been able to find a lot of them over the last few months.
"lololol".
Get your facts straight.
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Not sure where you assumed I insinuated that anyone is "forced" to use Google services, and equally puzzled as to the rude nature of your response. Particularly considering that I was in agreement w/ you on using Evernote AND agreement that Google Drive (amongst other services) are in fact overkill. My response to your resistance to using Google Drive was simply that Google and overkill go hand in hand.
The "facts" are that Android, though open source, has a fairly solid Google footprint. Most users are aware of this upon purchasing an Android handset, and are equally aware that Google makes a concerted effort to integrate as many services as they offer as possible. Conversely, most of us XDA'ers are quite aware that we can minimize Google's footprint w/ 3rd party apps and other modifications.
That being said, none of this was the point of the OP's thread. He simply asked a question re: an app, and expected an answer. Not a debate over whether or not privacy is compromised.
In any event, and to avoid the risk of hijacking the OP's thread any more than it already has been, I will respectfully bow out of the conversation.
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Not sure where you assumed I insinuated that anyone is "forced" to use Google services
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Explain the "lol" please, if it wasn't for making fun of my statement?
Rosa Elefant said:
Explain the "lol" please, if it wasn't for making fun of my statement?
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The "lol" was just that. Simply laughing in my agreement w/ your assessment of Google Drive being considered overkill. Certainly not meant in malice, and apologize if that's the way you took it.
Well, yes, I pretty much did. Thanks for clarification. (Still doesn't invalidate my contra. )
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Well, yes, I pretty much did. Thanks for clarification. (Still doesn't invalidate my contra. )
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No worries, and of course it doesn't.
To OP : What do you feel Evernote lacks when taking notes? May be then we will be able to help you.
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I like onenote for its integration with the office webapps and skydrive. Google Keep for its simplicity.
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To OP : What do you feel Evernote lacks when taking notes? May be then we will be able to help you.
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Hard to explain. I prefer a note taking app that'd be similar to if I was writing it down in a notebook lol. Easily organized and what not and easy to edit, rearrange stuff, etc. Maybe I was using Evernote wrong then?! Haha.
Yes, you obviously were.
Joe0113 said:
Hard to explain. I prefer a note taking app that'd be similar to if I was writing it down in a notebook lol. Easily organized and what not and easy to edit, rearrange stuff, etc. Maybe I was using Evernote wrong then?! Haha.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes&hl=en
How about this? This would work better on a phablet/tablet with a stylus though. It would probably give you the best 'writing down in a notebook experience' if that is what you are looking for.
OP, Do you have a Samsung note? Great note app unfortunately is proprietary t Sammy Notes w/ sPens.
I also use Google Keep for simplicity. Love my Google Drive. Don't care about Google's KNOWITALL theory some suggest here. I also have a tough time with EverNote, of which I consider overkill, but that's just my opinion.
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I have a Sprint Galaxy S4 !