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Hi all,
I have a Droid incredible 4g (stock, unrooted/unlocked, w/ the recent OTA update). I saw the Bootloader Unlock exploit in the developer's forum so I gave it a go, and it worked fine. Then I installed the Viper 1.0 ROM, but I haven't been able to get it to do anything after successfully booting except run through a loop of errors such as "Unfortunately, the process android.process.acore has stopped working." After I click "OK" on about 10 critical errors, it self-reboots and does the whole thing again.
Unfortunately, I didn't do a backup this time, so I have nothing to restore (first time I haven't done a backup, but also the first time I've ever had any kind of an issue w/ a ROM). I tried using the HTC Android ROM Update Utility 1.0.5.2011 that I found in the dev forum, but that didn't work either. Finally, I installed 2.17.605.2 Verizon Global Sense4.1 Android 4.0.4. It's a lot more stable than Viper was and the phone is basically usable, but I still get lots of critical errors. So this morning I went back to the forum and saw that I needed to downgrade to the old 1.43.605.3 kernel. I tried that and then reinstalled Viper 1.0, but it seemed to have no effect--still stuck in a critical error/reboot loop.
I realize that's the risk of playing with ROMs and I should have done a backup, but anyone have any ideas on how I can get my phone back and running?
Thanks!
Even though it explicitly stated you didn't need to do a backup, I did one anyway, to prevent something like this from happening. Always do a backup.
Did you verify the MD5Sum of ViperLTE?
Did you go to Recovery and Wipe -> Factory Reset and Wipe -> System both twice before trying to install the ROM?
Did you change anything in the ROM before attempting to load it?
There are lots of questions we could ask to ascertain the root of the problem, but these three are among the most important.
Wi-Fi won't work without the old boot.img, and from what I can tell, that's the only thing. It doesn't give critical errors.
I'm thinking since you are new to root you were un-aware the need to wipe before installing a rom.
im thinking that is the issue.
Thanks for the reply!
I didn't check the MD5 last night but I did just now and it matches.
I did a cache wipe the first time but not a system wipe. Then I started getting more desperate and tried reinstalling w/ system wipes and factory resets, but it didn't change anything.
No, I didn't change the ROM. Doing the Bootloader unlock exploit was about the absolute maximum of my technical abilities! The only thing I know I did wrong was that I didn't downgrade to the old boot version the first time (mainly because the wifi thing sounded inconsequential and I didn't want to learn the procedure if I didn't have to).
Anyway, I just tried Ultimate KangBang and it seems to work--no error messages so far. I don't know what I did wrong, but hopefully this keeps working!
IceDragon59 said:
Even though it explicitly stated you didn't need to do a backup, I did one anyway, to prevent something like this from happening. Always do a backup.
Did you verify the MD5Sum of ViperLTE?
Did you go to Recovery and Wipe -> Factory Reset and Wipe -> System both twice before trying to install the ROM?
Did you change anything in the ROM before attempting to load it?
There are lots of questions we could ask to ascertain the root of the problem, but these three are among the most important.
Wi-Fi won't work without the old boot.img, and from what I can tell, that's the only thing. It doesn't give critical errors.
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andybones said:
I'm thinking since you are new to root you were un-aware the need to wipe before installing a rom.
im thinking that is the issue.
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Yes, I took a short-cut that didn't quite work out. I didn't want to wipe the system because I wasn't sure if my pictures would be wiped too, but then when everything died I tried wiping everything and reinstalling and it didn't seem to improve anything. I did end up losing my pictures too. Oh well. Maybe it's just a combination of stuff I did to try to get things working (there was some trial and error in unlocking the bootloader but I did get that to work finally, and then more trial and error with the ROMs).
I guess the best thing to do is leave the phone the heck alone as long as it's working, for now. I just don't know why nothing seemed to work--I thought factory reset/fresh ROM would do it.
franklin411 said:
Yes, I took a short-cut that didn't quite work out. I didn't want to wipe the system because I wasn't sure if my pictures would be wiped too, but then when everything died I tried wiping everything and reinstalling and it didn't seem to improve anything. I did end up losing my pictures too. Oh well. Maybe it's just a combination of stuff I did to try to get things working (there was some trial and error in unlocking the bootloader but I did get that to work finally, and then more trial and error with the ROMs).
I guess the best thing to do is leave the phone the heck alone as long as it's working, for now. I just don't know why nothing seemed to work--I thought factory reset/fresh ROM would do it.
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If UKB ROM works then Viper ROM will too, installing the boot.img is very simple it's one command
I can help you with that if you'd like
in recovery before installing ROM, do a wipe of, (I go in this order, but it doesn't matter.)
1) Factory Reset
2) System
3) Cache
4) Dalvik Cache
then install the ROM
just DO NOT do External storage (unless of coarse u WANT to wipe your SD-Card.)
as long as you don't wipe External Storage you won't lose anything that's on your SD-Card.
in the future it is always good practice to backup(nandroid) your current ROM. I have been burned too many times, always do a nandroid before you do anything in recovery.
your photos are normally saved to the SD, flashing ROMs or wiping the system will not delete them
andybones said:
If UKB ROM works then Viper ROM will too, installing the boot.img is very simple it's one command
I can help you with that if you'd like
in recovery before installing ROM, do a wipe of, (I go in this order, but it doesn't matter.)
1) Factory Reset
2) System
3) Cache
4) Dalvik Cache
then install the ROM
just DO NOT do External storage (unless of coarse u WANT to wipe your SD-Card.)
as long as you don't wipe External Storage you won't lose anything that's on your SD-Card.
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It worked this time! Maybe the difference was that the boot.img file I downloaded was called "boot_signed.img" or something. I had no idea what it was supposed to look like, so I installed it that way and it didn't work. Then I tried renaming it to "boot.img" this morning and installing viper, but that didn't work. And then I restarted and installed UKB, and it worked. Just now I wiped and tried again with Viper and it's working fine. Maybe I did something this morning that caused it not to take properly when I tried with Viper, and then I reset and it worked.
Thanks for the help!
franklin411 said:
It worked this time! Maybe the difference was that the boot.img file I downloaded was called "boot_signed.img" or something. I had no idea what it was supposed to look like, so I installed it that way and it didn't work. Then I tried renaming it to "boot.img" this morning and installing viper, but that didn't work. And then I restarted and installed UKB, and it worked. Just now I wiped and tried again with Viper and it's working fine. Maybe I did something this morning that caused it not to take properly when I tried with Viper, and then I reset and it worked.
Thanks for the help!
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na the name has nothing to do with it. it can be named whatever.
im guessing the wipe worked.
franklin411 said:
Hi all,
I have a Droid incredible 4g (stock, unrooted/unlocked, w/ the recent OTA update). I saw the Bootloader Unlock exploit in the developer's forum so I gave it a go, and it worked fine. Then I installed the Viper 1.0 ROM, but I haven't been able to get it to do anything after successfully booting except run through a loop of errors such as "Unfortunately, the process android.process.acore has stopped working." After I click "OK" on about 10 critical errors, it self-reboots and does the whole thing again.
Unfortunately, I didn't do a backup this time, so I have nothing to restore (first time I haven't done a backup, but also the first time I've ever had any kind of an issue w/ a ROM). I tried using the HTC Android ROM Update Utility 1.0.5.2011 that I found in the dev forum, but that didn't work either. Finally, I installed 2.17.605.2 Verizon Global Sense4.1 Android 4.0.4. It's a lot more stable than Viper was and the phone is basically usable, but I still get lots of critical errors. So this morning I went back to the forum and saw that I needed to downgrade to the old 1.43.605.3 kernel. I tried that and then reinstalled Viper 1.0, but it seemed to have no effect--still stuck in a critical error/reboot loop.
I realize that's the risk of playing with ROMs and I should have done a backup, but anyone have any ideas on how I can get my phone back and running?
Thanks!
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weird, i was having the same problem with the same processes stopped working. i wiped cache dalvik and system but not factory reset. once i factory reset, it worked fine. i figured a system wipe would have been enough....
I only recently got into the whole rooting deal, but i followed the instructions precisely double checking and everything went along well , after that i installed most of the apps from here, made a full backup with titianium backup, but then i decided to try and install a custom rom, which was where i made my first mistake, i made a backup of the current(stock) rom and then went straight on to downloading cyagenmod 7.2 to try it out on my phone.
When i started the install i obviously had the pre install options, i only left the one check there which was wipe delvik cache i think figuring that was all i needed to do. Phone rebooted and the loading logo started but didnt go past it and after it had reappeared for 3 times the screen just went in a white screen with differently colored horizontal stripes, i thought my phone was now bricked, but i managed to turn it off and turn it back on and get into recovery mode. I tried to do a recovery which didnt do anything, after that i just selected factory reset thinking it will get me back to the stock rom, but instead CM worked and finally got past the loading logo, i checked in the CWM if i had the backup i had made before trying to install CM and it was gone.
I want to know what i have done wrong(i obviously have), how can i reverse it and how to install roms properly(preferably in simple language). I already found this thread.
Phone: LG Optimus Hub (E-510)
P.S. I am missing the Play store app, is this normal for CM?
1. You got into bootloop because you didn't do factory reset/full wipe (the /data partition wasn't wiped, files on this partition were from stock ROM and weren't compatible with CM) -> this is the reason why it booted after full wipe. Full wipe only deletes data, it will not restore stock ROM.
2. '... i checked in the CWM if i had the backup i had made before trying to install CM and it was gone'
Are you sure you made a backup? Or didn't you delete it?
3. For the Play store - CM ROMs ussually don't have Google Apps in them, you have to flash them after CM installation (look in the ROMs thread for Google apps/ GApps)
1. Thanks for the explanation, im defineatly going to keep in mind to wipe the next time i attempt to install a custom rom. Is the stock rom still in my phone or do i have to look online for one?
2. I belive you are right, i do remember wanting to do a backup, but i might have forgotten about it, i did one now so i can have something to go back to just in case.
3. Dont really understand this, can you please direct me to a thread for this? I tried doing the flash CWM recovery which didnt do anything, could i try using my backups from titanium backup to get the apps back on the phone? It would be quite a mess to get all of it downloaded again.
Edit: i tried installing google play downloaded from other sites and whenever i go into it, it asks me to add an account, but when i press yes, it just closes.
|Madman| said:
1. Thanks for the explanation, im defineatly going to keep in mind to wipe the next time i attempt to install a custom rom. Is the stock rom still in my phone or do i have to look online for one?
2. I belive you are right, i do remember wanting to do a backup, but i might have forgotten about it, i did one now so i can have something to go back to just in case.
3. Dont really understand this, can you please direct me to a thread for this? I tried doing the flash CWM recovery which didnt do anything, could i try using my backups from titanium backup to get the apps back on the phone? It would be quite a mess to get all of it downloaded again.
Edit: i tried installing google play downloaded from other sites and whenever i go into it, it asks me to add an account, but when i press yes, it just closes.
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First things first. Before you do anything else you need to do some reading in order to understand the Basics of Android. Otherwise your going to get yourself in a bind again. In my Signature your going to see some links if your on a PC. You should check them out, they will help with answers to a lot of your questions.
I cant thank you enough, i was looking for something like this! :good:
I will have something to read in my spare time, as little of it i have trough.
Your welcome . Glad I could help.
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Wow! I need some help. I've acquired a Samsung Galaxy Note (i717, I believe) that shows all the signs of being healthy (appearance, touch screen, etc.) but persistently slows down at the ATT opening splash screen, begins to load Android, dies and reboots. Whatever variant rooted ROM I received it with (sluggish and unreliable) I have written over and now I can't get any farther than the Android settings screen. Therefore I do not know the exact version nor can I begin to set it up (wifi, etc.).
That's the 'presenting problem', so let me explain what I've done to this point (about 25 hrs. worth!). I have reloaded latest version of CWM (runs great) and then Padawan JB . . . same symptoms. I have loaded the ATT JB and ICS via the latest Odin successfully . . . with same symptoms. I have loaded TWRP (touch screen is snappy and works as it should) and Padawan JB again . . . with same symptoms. I have wiped caches before, after, and in between till I'm blue in the face, each time with the same symptoms. Most recently I have done a hard reset to native/factory settings . . . with no change! I've tried to scour the XDA (and any other sites) trouble shooting articles and seem to have come to a dead end.
Here's a couple things that I'm wondering: because I can't get deep enough into Android to check out the model number, could the phone be something other than an ATT model? At the top of the front face it simply says 'Samsung', not ATT at top and Samsung at bottom like my previous ATT Note. Right after boot I persistently get an ATT splash screen which would lead me to believe that it is ATT. Is there some other way to find model, say in TWRP? Do I need a phone specific version of Android? Second, everything seems to be working fine physically (i.e., no hardware problems). Could this thing have gotten a virus in an earlier life that's preventing the ROM from working right? I've not been able to get far enough to register it with my cell provider (second party, not ATT). Must you be up and running with the cell service to correctly load and use the ROM (wouldn't think so)? And if so, how without Android working? I've been using and playing with computers for 25 years, but I'm fairly new to the Android system (but learning fast!) Any help would sure be appreciated. I'd really like to resurrect this baby. I loved my first Note (till it fell off the car and disappeared).
pstrulm said:
Wow! I need some help. I've acquired a Samsung Galaxy Note (i717, I believe) that shows all the signs of being healthy (appearance, touch screen, etc.) but persistently slows down at the ATT opening splash screen, begins to load Android, dies and reboots. Whatever variant rooted ROM I received it with (sluggish and unreliable) I have written over and now I can't get any farther than the Android settings screen. Therefore I do not know the exact version nor can I begin to set it up (wifi, etc.).
That's the 'presenting problem', so let me explain what I've done to this point (about 25 hrs. worth!). I have reloaded latest version of CWM (runs great) and then Padawan JB . . . same symptoms. I have loaded the ATT JB and ICS via the latest Odin successfully . . . with same symptoms. I have loaded TWRP (touch screen is snappy and works as it should) and Padawan JB again . . . with same symptoms. I have wiped caches before, after, and in between till I'm blue in the face, each time with the same symptoms. Most recently I have done a hard reset to native/factory settings . . . with no change! I've tried to scour the XDA (and any other sites) trouble shooting articles and seem to have come to a dead end.
Here's a couple things that I'm wondering: because I can't get deep enough into Android to check out the model number, could the phone be something other than an ATT model? At the top of the front face it simply says 'Samsung', not ATT at top and Samsung at bottom like my previous ATT Note. Right after boot I persistently get an ATT splash screen which would lead me to believe that it is ATT. Is there some other way to find model, say in TWRP? Do I need a phone specific version of Android? Second, everything seems to be working fine physically (i.e., no hardware problems). Could this thing have gotten a virus in an earlier life that's preventing the ROM from working right? I've not been able to get far enough to register it with my cell provider (second party, not ATT). Must you be up and running with the cell service to correctly load and use the ROM (wouldn't think so)? And if so, how without Android working? I've been using and playing with computers for 25 years, but I'm fairly new to the Android system (but learning fast!) Any help would sure be appreciated. I'd really like to resurrect this baby. I loved my first Note (till it fell off the car and disappeared).
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Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
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Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory reset in between.
fbauto1 said:
Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
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Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory
I would reflash cwm thru odin after that I would flash the latest TWRP 2.5. Then you can flash whatever. If padawan is givin u problems try something else like AOSP or AOKP. Padawan is TW based. JaimeD builds are pretty sweet.
sent from my GalaxySuperNote running OC Padawan JB
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androidmechanic said:
fbauto1 said:
Well, if you keep flashing an AT&T based rom, then yes, you will get an AT&T boot animation simply because it's part of the rom you are flashing.
You said "you think" you have an I717, did you take the battery off and physically look at the sticker beneath it to see the model?
Try TWRP, go to WIPE, and WIPE everything, which means checking every checkbox. Then flash a stock rom with a fresh phone (no data, nothing at all)
You said you did CWM->Padawan.. these are two totally different roms, so you should always do a factory reset whenever flashing two totally different roms.
You can't just rely on the Android->settings to see the info since roms overwrite these stuff in build.prop so if you flash a wrong rom, wrong info will show up.
Here's my advice:
1. Flash TWRP
2. Wipe in TWRP, check every checkbox
3. Flash a stock i717 rom
4. Reboot
If that doesn't work, either hardware is bad or your phone isn't for the I717 roms.
Edit:
Question, have you ever come to a point that the phone boots successfuly at all? You did mention CM works great. But you can't go from CWM->TW Based rom without factory
I would reflash cwm thru odin after that I would flash the latest TWRP 2.5. Then you can flash whatever. If padawan is givin u problems try something else like AOSP or AOKP. Padawan is TW based. JaimeD builds are pretty sweet.
sent from my GalaxySuperNote running OC Padawan JB
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If you want TWRP, flash TWRP. No need to flash CWM
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AT&T Phones have a [logo}AT&T] on the top-center!!
But if you are in doubt, use kies to do a full recovery-restore [WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE].
See post #4 on this thread.
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androidmechanic said:
If you want TWRP, flash TWRP. No need to flash CWM
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If you go thru Odin you would have cwm first. With the problems talked about, I would go back factory stock then re-root with Odin. Then thru cwm, flash twrp or whatever floats your boat.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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androidmechanic said:
If you go thru Odin you would have cwm first. With the problems talked about, I would go back factory stock then re-root with Odin. Then thru cwm, flash twrp or whatever floats your boat.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
fbauto1 said:
Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
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No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Nope. If you want TWRP, then flash TWRP via Odin. No need to go through CWM first. You can flash TWRP via Odin, you know that, right?
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No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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you are both actually correct, however, I am looking at PSTRULM's stats. if he is anything like me when I started, the more simple and less complication involved in the process, the more he may understand.
ANDROIDMECHANIC is stating the most basic and beginner way to do this and understand simply. after doing this a few times as I did, the basic mechanics of the process will become more fluent.
then he can make his own decisions as to methods which might be easier for him, without confusing.
I am sure you both are a huge help to everyone and I thank members such as yourself for your efforts. ME, I prefer baby steps, cause I know I can really EFF things up if I get confused
androidmechanic said:
No I didn't know that. All of the Odin programs that I dealt with flash cwm. Than for the Intel tho. :thumbup:
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Just a reminder.. when flashing through Odin, make sure it's an ODIN-flashable tarball, i.e., you can't flash a recovery-type zip through Odin and vice versa.
Hello everyone,
Well might as well say hi. I'm Ryukouki. I use this handle on a lot of forums, so if this is familiar you most likely know me elsewhere. So, anywho! I purchased a VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 two weeks ago, and I'm really curious. I rooted my phone, installed Clockwork Mod and backed up my data (I THINK) and I'm looking into ROMs for the Galaxy S4. What is the best mod for speed and performance, with good ease of use, and does not require a data wipe on installation? And is there a tutorial to go about doing this? I'm kind of new to the whole smartphone thing (used a feature phone for seven years!!), but I'm not too afraid to try new things out.
Ryukouki said:
Hello everyone,
Well might as well say hi. I'm Ryukouki. I use this handle on a lot of forums, so if this is familiar you most likely know me elsewhere. So, anywho! I purchased a VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 two weeks ago, and I'm really curious. I rooted my phone, installed Clockwork Mod and backed up my data (I THINK) and I'm looking into ROMs for the Galaxy S4. What is the best mod for speed and performance, with good ease of use, and does not require a data wipe on installation? And is there a tutorial to go about doing this? I'm kind of new to the whole smartphone thing (used a feature phone for seven years!!), but I'm not too afraid to try new things out.
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No ROMs 'require' a data wipe per se. You may, however, run into problems with any ROM if you don't completely wipe data when installing (especially the first time you go from stock to a ROM).
Why are you so afraid of wiping data? You could very easily download a few backup apps and have everything back up and running in 20 minutes.
trebb said:
No ROMs 'require' a data wipe per se. You may, however, run into problems with any ROM if you don't completely wipe data when installing (especially the first time you go from stock to a ROM).
Why are you so afraid of wiping data? You could very easily download a few backup apps and have everything back up and running in 20 minutes.
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I assume that this requires backup to my SD card though? And can you explain how I go about doing this? Do I just pick up things like App Restore and Backup (I think it's the other way around...) and then backup and restore? I don't want to screw this up, because I have a few apps where I've dumped a couple hundred dollars into and if I delete it or wipe it, I lose all the data, and I for sure as hell don't wanna do that!
You are rooted, so grab Titanium Backup, and use it. Just don't backup up system data. App data is fine (at least it always has been on AT&T).
I haven't seen a ROM yet that is stable enough to flash, IMHO. Give it a couple of weeks. I ran AOKP on my GS2 for a long time, and am looking forward to it here.
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If I was you man , I wouldnt never install a rom without a full wipe. That will keep you from running into problems. I know that from experience. Like Sbreen say, no wipe , no gripe
DroidHead214 said:
If I was you man , I wouldnt never install a rom without a full wipe. That will keep you from running into problems. I know that from experience. Like Sbreen say, no wipe , no gripe
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Very well then, I guess a wipe it is.
Now, let me get this straight. I rooted my phone. I have TWRP Custom Recovery on my phone, and I have backed up the thing in the recovery menu to my micro SD card. I also Titanium Backup'd my system with apps and whatnot. So when I decide to flash my phone to a new ROM, I'd first wipe the data, factory reset, and wipe the dalvik cache, then flash it, do the setup garbage, and then from there, redownload Titanium Backup and restore whatever I want to restore, correct?
Ryukouki said:
Very well then, I guess a wipe it is.
Now, let me get this straight. I rooted my phone. I have TWRP Custom Recovery on my phone, and I have backed up the thing in the recovery menu to my micro SD card. I also Titanium Backup'd my system with apps and whatnot. So when I decide to flash my phone to a new ROM, I'd first wipe the data, factory reset, and wipe the dalvik cache, then flash it, do the setup garbage, and then from there, redownload Titanium Backup and restore whatever I want to restore, correct?
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You got it! However the "factory reset" option in TWRP actually wipes data/cache/dalvik, I believe. (It tells you at the top of the screen what its going to wipe) Once you got your new rom you're all set to start restoring your apps with TB and enjoy the smoothness. After the setup process when your phone goes to the home screen, it's a good idea to let it sit for 5 to 10 minutes. (some developers advise this)
whiskerz said:
You got it! However, the "factory reset" option in TWRP actually wipes data/cache/dalvik I believe. (It tells you at the top of the screen what its going to wipe) Once you got your new rom you're all set to start restoring your apps with TB and enjoying the smoothness
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I'll try it either tomorrow...or, later in the week if my courage decides to run away. Now, in the worst case scenario, let's say I completely screw up and get stuck with a bootloop or, I just completely hate the ROM itself. To restore to my current configuration do I just go back to TWRP and hit restore, and it basically reverts itself? I'm so sorry if I'm asking really stupid questions, I just REALLY want to do it right, and not have any hassles whatsoever. I am extremely careful and I really want to feel comfortable doing this.
Some guides I see mentioned backing up the IMEI information on the phone. Do I really need to do that, or is that all automated and I shouldn't run into issues? And is there a GApps.zip file thingy that I need to download for the "stock" applications? But wait a second, TB should take care of all of that correct?
Ryukouki said:
I'll try it either tomorrow...or, later in the week if my courage decides to run away. Now, in the worst case scenario, let's say I completely screw up and get stuck with a bootloop or, I just completely hate the ROM itself. To restore to my current configuration do I just go back to TWRP and hit restore, and it basically reverts itself? I'm so sorry if I'm asking really stupid questions, I just REALLY want to do it right, and not have any hassles whatsoever. I am extremely careful and I really want to feel comfortable doing this.
Some guides I see mentioned backing up the IMEI information on the phone. Do I really need to do that, or is that all automated and I shouldn't run into issues? And is there a GApps.zip file thingy that I need to download for the "stock" applications? But wait a second, TB should take care of all of that correct?
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Yes, if your phone goes into a bootloop or you absolutely hate the rom, then pull the battery and boot into recovery. (If you just hate the rom no need to pull battery just power off)Make sure you have a backup of your system created within TWRP with the "backup" option. If you have a backup in TWRP you would just hit the "Restore" button and find your system backup and wait for it to restore. I've never heard anything about backing up IMEI info, you will probably not run into any issues. I've flashed tons and tons of roms on numerous devices and have NEVER had to do any of that. Gapps (google apps) are ONLY needed when you're going to run an AOSP rom. That means when the rom doesn't have the touchwiz skin over top of it. AOSP roms are pure vanilla android and have zero touchwiz features. You can find the touchwiz based roms in the "Android development" section while the AOSP roms are found in the "Original development" section. Also, it's fine to ask questions. That's how you learn!
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Yes, if your phone goes into a bootloop or you absolutely hate the rom, then pull the battery and boot into recovery. (If you just hate the rom no need to pull battery just power off)Make sure you have a backup of your system created within TWRP with the "backup" option. If you have a backup in TWRP you would just hit the "Restore" button and find your system backup and wait for it to restore. I've never heard anything about backing up IMEI info, you will probably not run into any issues. I've flashed tons and tons of roms on numerous devices and have NEVER had to do any of that. Gapps (google apps) are ONLY needed when you're going to run an AOSP rom. That means when the rom doesn't have the touchwiz skin over top of it. AOSP roms are pure vanilla android and have zero touchwiz features. You can find the touchwiz based roms in the "Android development" section while the AOSP roms are found in the "Original development" section. Also, it's fine to ask questions. That's how you learn!
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Awesome. Phew, I was like what why do I need to backup my IMEI information? I'm planning on installing Hyperdrive, is that a touchwiz based rom by any chance? And hah, yeah I know, I usually have really meticulous instructions for myself when I flash video game consoles, so I know the routine like the back of my hand.
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Awesome. Phew, I was like what why do I need to backup my IMEI information? I'm planning on installing Hyperdrive, is that a touchwiz based rom by any chance? And hah, yeah I know, I usually have really meticulous instructions for myself when I flash video game consoles, so I know the routine like the back of my hand.
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Yes, Hyperdrive is a touchwiz based rom! The file is going to be a little over a 1gig, and already includes all of the apps you'll need.(Don't flash Gaaps) I'm heading off XDA for the night if you have anymore questions/concerns feel free to PM me and I'll try to help
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Yes, Hyperdrive is a touchwiz based rom! The file is going to be a little over a 1gig, and already includes all of the apps you'll need.(Don't flash Gaaps) I'm heading off XDA for the night if you have anymore questions/concerns feel free to PM me and I'll try to help
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Oh good! And at least my internet is reasonable now, so 1GB shouldn't be too bad. ;D I should head off too, its a bit late over here. Thanks for your help, you've answered a lot of my concerns!
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All ROMs are the best and data wipes are always recommended
This will help anyone who keeps having flashing issues.
More detailed instructions in my GUIDE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
THIS IS ONE QUICK/SIMPLE ERROR FREE ROM FLASHING PROCEDURE
This should eliminate a few posts saying, stuck in download mode, stuck at logo. just vibrates and them MANY other issues that somehow, everyone seems to find.
Here is my quick rom flashing process I use ALWAYS (yes always)
THINGS YOU NEED ON extSDCARD
1. Extra kernels (2 or 3 you know works for your device)
2. Optional: 2 recoveries that can be flashed (I use CWM & TWRP)
3. Optional: apps.zip (a zip created from Titantium BU, containing Root Explorer, TU Backup, Quickpic, ES File Explorer and Terminal Emulator)
Flashing the rom: TOUCHWIZ/AOSP ROMS
1. Backup current rom (to the extsdcard)
2. Complete wipe, (I do complete, some people do not) Complete = No Issues [FACTORY RESET + CLEAR CACHE + CLEAR DALVIK CACHE + CLEAR DATA]
3. Flash the rom
4. Flash the kernel (your device kernel) (I know some roms have their own kernel) this is where your problems start.
AGAIN: FLASH YOUR KERNEL, you KNOW it works. 1 more time FLASH YOUR KERNEL. (you can experiment with other kernels after you boot)
AOSP ROMS - require you to flash gapps before you boot. [This is not required for TouchWiz roms]
5. Boot the rom.
FINISHED!!!! SUCCESS!!!
Total time to flash a rom:
7-10min
Errors - NONE
This goes for every rom in my guide.
TIPS:
This flash procedure is for Touchwiz Roms, if you are flashing AOSP roms, you must flash the gapps package associated with the rom you are flashing.
**** SGH-I337M Users: Often requires flashing a different kernel than the one included in most ATT ROMS. Any GT-i9505 kernel will work and Adam kernel and Faux kernel are both confirmed working for us Canadian users.
Note: Flash KERNEL directly after ROM then reboot device.
[Special thanks to blyndfyre for this helpful tip].
The extra recovery I flash if a rom does not like the recovery I am using.
Yes, you can flash recoveries back and forth.
Apps.zip I flash after the rom is up & running. This I use to get the rom setup (like root explorer and others needed)
I am in no way responsible for anything that may do damage to any device - Use these tips at your own risk - period!
If you found this useful in any way, please hit the THANKS button for my effort.
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TheAxman said:
Any questions? Anyone.
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I've been running into a lot of issues when trying to flash different ROMs. For instance, right now I'm on CleanROM 1.6 - I just tried to install PureGv2.
Steps I took:
Have Goo and ROM Manager installed after clean install of CleanROM 1.6
Flash CWM from ROM Manager
Install Recovery Script from Goo
Reboot into recover from Goo
TWRP loads
Wipe data, cache, dalvik, etc
Install PureGv2
I forget the error off the top of my head but it doesn't install
In a nutshell I'm asking what am I doing wrong? Do I need to flash another kernel?
Flash your verizon kernel. Correct. I know it is a vzn rom, but do it anyway.
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Flash your verizon kernel. Correct. I know it is a vzn rom, but do it anyway.
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Was looking through Tomsgt's Youtube channel and stumbled across a video of his that showed his "About Phone". Everything was identical to mine, so I'm still a little lost as to why I can flash certain ROMs but not others. Sac/Gru's ROM soft bricked my phone, Hyperdrive5.7 didn't install, CleanROM does. It's just funky...maybe I'll just Odin back to stock, flash the MDK and start fresh.
Could the downloads be a problem? I downloaded 2 of the ROMs from work today on a 50meg pipe and they didn't work.
Do you download the ROMs to your phone or to your computer and then move them to your SD card?
If you download to your phone, do you move them to the SD card or leave them in the download folder on the internal storage?
If you do the latter, do you use a micro SD adapter or plug the phone in and move them that way?
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Was looking through Tomsgt's Youtube channel and stumbled across a video of his that showed his "About Phone". Everything was identical to mine, so I'm still a little lost as to why I can flash certain ROMs but not others. Sac/Gru's ROM soft bricked my phone, Hyperdrive5.7 didn't install, CleanROM does. It's just funky...maybe I'll just Odin back to stock, flash the MDK and start fresh.
Could the downloads be a problem? I downloaded 2 of the ROMs from work today on a 50meg pipe and they didn't work.
Do you download the ROMs to your phone or to your computer and then move them to your SD card?
If you download to your phone, do you move them to the SD card or leave them in the download folder on the internal storage?
If you do the latter, do you use a micro SD adapter or plug the phone in and move them that way?
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Download to the computer,then copy to the phones extsdcard, should be ok, make sure you do a md5 check on the files to make sure they are the correct size.
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Download to the computer,then copy to the phones extsdcard, should be ok, make sure you do a md5 check on the files to make sure they are the correct size.
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Alright sounds good. Flashing back to stock later today then re-rooting
thanks for the help
Remember always do a BACKUP before you do anything.
First off, big thanks for this thread.
Now I'm running Cleanrom 1.5. If I wanted to install a new rom can someone please explain exactly what I do to go about it? As jargon free as possible would be awesome.
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I certainly scared the carp outta me the other night. I'm using the Carbon ROM and while I do like it, I miss a couple of the S4s features. I picked what looked like a good modified stock ROM and proceeded to flash it.
I'm using Goo and TWRP for the job. I checked of all 3 boxes for clearing cache, davik and factory reset.
Then I chose the file and started it.
The first result, it acted like if was doing everything but nothing changed. Phone still worked fine.
On the next try, I waited for TWERP to start and I reselected the ROM I wanted and flashed it.
When it booted up, I was very happy to see the original screens come up. Then it stopped on the one with the Verizon check mark. The blue LED slowly pulsing and nothing else for about 30 min. I removed battery to try and start over. Same thing again.
Time to goto my backup and restore my phone back to Carbon.
IT FAILED.
Now my phone is stuck in a weird looking boot up loop. After a few tries I was able to get into recovery
mode. TWRP started loading, froze and crashed! Even though I am a total noob at this, I still did not panic.
I'd restart my phone by removing the battery, going into recovery mode and then wildly press every button on my phone hoping to break the loop. It worked! I chose a different save and tried it all over again. FAIL.
ON the next I wiped every bit of old data off. Chose Factory restore crossed my fiingers....it work! My phone is fine now.
Thanks to that ordeal and this thread I think I know what I did wrong even though this never happened to me. before.
1) WIPE THE DATA
2)INSTALL A COMPATABLE KERNAL FIRST
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Vampyre111 said:
I certainly scared the carp outta me the other night. I'm using the Carbon ROM and while I do like it, I miss a couple of the S4s features. I picked what looked like a good modified stock ROM and proceeded to flash it.
I'm using Goo and TWRP for the job. I checked of all 3 boxes for clearing cache, davik and factory reset.
Then I chose the file and started it.
The first result, it acted like if was doing everything but nothing changed. Phone still worked fine.
On the next try, I waited for TWERP to start and I reselected the ROM I wanted and flashed it.
When it booted up, I was very happy to see the original screens come up. Then it stopped on the one with the Verizon check mark. The blue LED slowly pulsing and nothing else for about 30 min. I removed battery to try and start over. Same thing again.
Time to goto my backup and restore my phone back to Carbon.
IT FAILED.
Now my phone is stuck in a weird looking boot up loop. After a few tries I was able to get into recovery
mode. TWRP started loading, froze and crashed! Even though I am a total noob at this, I still did not panic.
I'd restart my phone by removing the battery, going into recovery mode and then wildly press every button on my phone hoping to break the loop. It worked! I chose a different save and tried it all over again. FAIL.
ON the next I wiped every bit of old data off. Chose Factory restore crossed my fiingers....it work! My phone is fine now.
Thanks to that ordeal and this thread I think I know what I did wrong even though this never happened to me. before.
1) WIPE THE DATA
2)INSTALL A COMPATABLE KERNAL FIRST
V^^^^V
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I can not stress enough HOW IMPORTANT THE KERNEL IS!
Hmm so everyone is a now a Oriental Flash Master from the far East now huh?
What recovery is everyone using?
[updated: 07-12-2013]
Flashing Questions
So, if you just need to add something, like different Kernerl, do you have to wipe and start from scratch?
Should you.
If so, and you backup apps and data in Titanium, then what you do a full wipe, flash entire rom, and reinstall the apps and data associated therewith?
Last, I have asked this but cannot seem to get an answer.
Installed Hyperdrive 7 (also had 5.7 and 6). Rom is super smooth and fast, working like a charm. but I want Verizon Visual Voice Mail.
I tried to copy the apk file to the devices system/app directory but get permission denied message....tried to install, and get failed message....
xander45 said:
So, if you just need to add something, like different Kernerl, do you have to wipe and start from scratch?
Should you.
If so, and you backup apps and data in Titanium, then what you do a full wipe, flash entire rom, and reinstall the apps and data associated therewith?
Last, I have asked this but cannot seem to get an answer.
Installed Hyperdrive 7 (also had 5.7 and 6). Rom is super smooth and fast, working like a charm. but I want Verizon Visual Voice Mail.
I tried to copy the apk file to the devices system/app directory but get permission denied message....tried to install, and get failed message....
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did you set the permissions for the app? That should work actually. Look at one of the apps in that directory, and set the permissions the same for the voice app. Reboot and see what happens.
Good luck.
May want to post this question also in my guide thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
Sorry if this is dumb, but how do I know what kernels for sure work with my device and how do I get them to my external sd card? I suppose the one that is currently on my device(how to get that to sd?), but what others?
Thanks.
Painterface said:
Sorry if this is dumb, but how do I know what kernels for sure work with my device and how do I get them to my external sd card? I suppose the one that is currently on my device(how to get that to sd?), but what others?
Thanks.
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Please bring the question over to my thread up above. It shows also what kernels to use. We will help there.
Another noob question: so you still advise flashing a kernel even if the ROM creator says that the ROM comes with the appropriate kernel and that no extra flashing is required? I've got the Verizon Galaxy S4 variant and specifically am thinking of Dubbsy's Google Play Edition ROM.
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theoneknownasbob said:
Another noob question: so you still advise flashing a kernel even if the ROM creator says that the ROM comes with the appropriate kernel and that no extra flashing is required? I've got the Verizon Galaxy S4 variant and specifically am thinking of Dubbsy's Google Play Edition ROM.
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You would flash the rom, and after, flash your verizon kernel, simple as that.