I see a lot of talk about the memory and how much is available. but I was wondering about installation of apps-
1, Where are they installed to?
2. How much room is there for them?
3. Is this shared with the RAM memory?
I'm keen to upgrade to an Android phone, but if the app storage is small then this would put me off.
So far app storage for me has not been a problem and I have been downloading a few. I have 102MB still free. Not sure how much was there to begin with though...
The memory for app storage is separate from the RAM - like it should be on WiMo and Symbian handsets.
If you root the Hero you can store apps on the SD card, though I have not done this.
I think unless you go on a download frenzy, you will be fine.
Most apps will allow storage of their cache / data on the SD in their settings menu - such as FeedR (RSS feed app), Twidroid (Twitter app) etc.
it really is nothing to worry about...i had to test a magic for my work a few months ago and one of the tests was to fill the internal memory and then try and use the phone...they'd had issues with windows mobile obviously....and it took over 130 apps installed before it got anywhere near full and still it worked fine for standard use.
seriously, unless you are installing EVERYTHING, then you'll be fine!
That puts my mind at rest. Thank you.
If you do run out of memory, you could always root it. Not that im advocating that or anything ;P
hello guys. i have a galaxy note, At&T version but i have a little problem. For example, i bought Modern combat 3 from the market store and i downloaded the Apk file off market store into my phone, so all in order to play that game, i have to download rest of the data over WiFi right ? but the data of the games that i downloaded over WiFi, it will instal automatically to my internal memory not to my SD card, usually with my others Android phones that i used to have it before it will install to my SD card. However, with my galaxy note every data of the game that i downloaded over WiFi it will stored into my phone memory and now after downloading more than 7 games my phone memory is full and my 32gb SD card still empty, even though my SD card is mounted.And if i ever moved, any data to the SD card, then i cant play the game it will asked me to download the data again and if i downloaded again it will still install into my phone memory . Any helps please. I'm sorry about my English. I'm a french speaker....
Not sure if i understand what you are saying about your sd card. Is there anything at all on it? If not, is it mounted?
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A little suggestion, read what you typed out loud to yourself (proof reading).
BUT, I think I understand.
Unfortunately, not every app (in fact, only around 50-70%) of apps support the ability of moving the app to the sdcard. Most games that download additional data do NOT support being moved.
So, what I suggest you do is move anything on your phone's internal memory to your sd card. Audiobooks, podcasts, movies, music, pictures, etc should be on your sdcard. This way, you should have more than enough room for whatever additional stuff apps are downloading.
Personally, I use my sd card for all of this stuff for two additional reasons - the sd card is replaceable, my phone memory is not. Media such as podcasts, audiobooks, movies, music, and pictures are always being swapped on my phone for different content. Every time you write data, this is a destructive process that wears down the memory cells that store data on the phone or sd card. But since the sd card is much more easily replaced than the phone, I put all of this content on the sd card.
The second reason I put all of my media on the sd card is, 'if' my phone should need to be warrantied, I dont have to worry about anything in the phone's internal storage because I keep everything I can on the sd card.
You also might need to actually plug your phone into the computer and browse thru the folders on the phone and manually delete any game data that is still around for games you arent playing anymore (games you uninstalled) or apps that you no longer have installed.
Or alternatively, redownload the game and follow the instructions below.
When you remove an app that you know you arent going to play again, you should delete it by going to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications, then tap the 'All' tab near the top of the screen. Scroll thru the list and when you see an app you want to remove, tap it. In this next screen, 'if' Force Stop is selectable, tap Force Stop. Then tap 'Clear Data'. Then finally tap 'Uninstall'. Clearing Data deletes any additional data the app creates that is not the actual apk you originally downloaded from the market (in most cases anyway).
Of course, another option is just to do a factory reset (Settings->Privacy and Storage->Reset Phone). This will clean everything (for the most part) off the phone and give you a clean slate to work off. Then, when you delete apps, do the steps I mentioned in the above paragraph when you uninstall any apps.
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Not sure if i understand what you are saying about your sd card. Is there anything at all on it? If not, is it mounted?
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yes the SD card is mounted. it shows me the capacity and everything.
littlewierdo said:
A little suggestion, read what you typed out loud to yourself (proof reading).
BUT, I think I understand.
Unfortunately, not every app (in fact, only around 50-70%) of apps support the ability of moving the app to the sdcard. Most games that download additional data do NOT support being moved.
So, what I suggest you do is move anything on your phone's internal memory to your sd card. Audiobooks, podcasts, movies, music, pictures, etc should be on your sdcard. This way, you should have more than enough room for whatever additional stuff apps are downloading.
Personally, I use my sd card for all of this stuff for two additional reasons - the sd card is replaceable, my phone memory is not. Media such as podcasts, audiobooks, movies, music, and pictures are always being swapped on my phone for different content. Every time you write data, this is a destructive process that wears down the memory cells that store data on the phone or sd card. But since the sd card is much more easily replaced than the phone, I put all of this content on the sd card.
The second reason I put all of my media on the sd card is, 'if' my phone should need to be warrantied, I dont have to worry about anything in the phone's internal storage because I keep everything I can on the sd card.
You also might need to actually plug your phone into the computer and browse thru the folders on the phone and manually delete any game data that is still around for games you arent playing anymore (games you uninstalled) or apps that you no longer have installed.
Or alternatively, redownload the game and follow the instructions below.
When you remove an app that you know you arent going to play again, you should delete it by going to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications, then tap the 'All' tab near the top of the screen. Scroll thru the list and when you see an app you want to remove, tap it. In this next screen, 'if' Force Stop is selectable, tap Force Stop. Then tap 'Clear Data'. Then finally tap 'Uninstall'. Clearing Data deletes any additional data the app creates that is not the actual apk you originally downloaded from the market (in most cases anyway).
Of course, another option is just to do a factory reset (Settings->Privacy and Storage->Reset Phone). This will clean everything (for the most part) off the phone and give you a clean slate to work off. Then, when you delete apps, do the steps I mentioned in the above paragraph when you uninstall any apps.
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thanks for ur help bro but it didn't work. i even rest the the phone to the factory but still doing the same thing. tell me on your galaxy note if u download for example asphalt 6 apk and if u star downloading the rest of that over WiFi tell where that file will install ? on your phone memory or to your external SD Card ? thanks
The reality is that any connection you use whether wifi or edge ect.some goes to device and some in sd. sometimes you can put a little bit more inside the SD card.
A number of my apps won't update at the moment because the phone is advising that the memory is full. However, when I go into the storage settings it advises that there's 1.08gb free on the phone an 0.99gb free on the SD card. The odd thing is that at the top under App Storage it advises that 2.78gb of 2.91gb is used, with 'other' taking up 1.83gb and apps only 0.95gb.
Despite much research on the Internet and playing around I can't identify what this other 1.83gb actually relates to and the phone won't let you tap on this part (as you can do with the apps). Viewing the internal and SD storage via the computer advise the same free space as above. I have tried clearing out the caches and using the Make more space without any luck.
It appears that there is some type of temporary file but I just can't find what it is.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Many thanks.
Odbod22 said:
A number of my apps won't update at the moment because the phone is advising that the memory is full. However, when I go into the storage settings it advises that there's 1.08gb free on the phone an 0.99gb free on the SD card. The odd thing is that at the top under App Storage it advises that 2.78gb of 2.91gb is used, with 'other' taking up 1.83gb and apps only 0.95gb.
Despite much research on the Internet and playing around I can't identify what this other 1.83gb actually relates to and the phone won't let you tap on this part (as you can do with the apps). Viewing the internal and SD storage via the computer advise the same free space as above. I have tried clearing out the caches and using the Make more space without any luck.
It appears that there is some type of temporary file but I just can't find what it is.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Many thanks.
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that "other" is apps that comes preinstalled, you can't do anything about it unless you are rooted,,& as per your full memory problem, there might be several things causing it, one is if you have used lucky patcher to patch some apps you won't be able to update them unless you remove the odex file created by it..or maybe your memory is actually full, in that case you must transfer some apps to sdcard...
Hello Everyone.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Ace (S5830) and until 2 days ago i was running a CM7 on it until it suddenly just stopped working and the phone hung in some kind of boot loop. That's when i decided to "upgrade" to a newer version of CM and searched for everything necessary.
I tried some CM11 alpha but since it's pretty unstable (at least the version i had was) i tried others until i settled for a stable 10.2 version (cm-10.2-20140309-UNOFFICIAL-cooper++). So far i am pretty happy since it actually is running very smoothly on my phone and i did not expect that at all. But then i ran into the same issue that basically everyone owning this phone runs into - it's very limited internal space.
Fact is i do need some google apps since i'm using gmail and synchronizing my contacts through it. Also i want to use Whatsapp, basically the only reason for me having a smartphone right now. I Installed the Dolphin Browser aswell since a decent browser is also something i'd like to use from time to time, but it seems to be full on external anyways so it should not count towards the internal storage.
Problem is now, all that is already too much for the phone's internal storage to handle since whatsapp has to stay on internal - at least that's my experience - and the google-play services that are needed aswell are placed on internal too without option of moving them.
I tried some things but basically all of them failed on one or another weird way..
- titanium backup - uninstalled system apps that i am not using (radio, browser, google play voice things, etc.) but after a reboot they were all back again. Even before rebooting, uninstalling them seemed not to open up space at all.
- Link2SD - tried linking whatsapp to my SD card, failed since whatsapp wasn't running very stable anymore. If anyone has a solution for this i'd love to hear it!
- App2SD - didn't even show any internal apps, and wasn't helping at all.
Also something i've tried, i have a message backup for whatsapp that's ~14mb but lies on my SD card. Problem seems to be that Whatsapp on recovering these messages put's them somewhere on the internal storage, at least it takes those ~14mb away from it after it recovered them. I tried to change the path whatsapp uses for internal storing of data with the app 'FolderMount' (like i found tutorials on the internet for exactly this issue) but wasn't even able to locate the internal stored data :/ Not because i just didn't find it, but because it seems not to exist...
I know i can't really increase the size of the internal storage but i think there has to be something i can do. I can't even update whatsapp since i am just living on the edge of the "low storage space" message with 20-15mb left.
What i am hoping now through this thread is to get some ideas or options how i could free up some space, move some apps around to SD maybe (utilize Link2SD correctly) or in the end basically have the things i need but some free storage on internal so that i can use my phone, maybe even install apps on SD (without them touching internal space) and have some room to update the important apps like whatsapp.
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ThePatchelist
Has anyone got any recommendations on the best way to move my app data to SD Card on the Z2? For example the 1-2GB of data that many larger games download to internal storage, I'd like to put that onto the SD Card. I know there'll be a performance hit, but I want to be able to play around with it and at least give it a try to see how the performance is anyway.
I'm currently running the .402 firmware and am rooted without unlocking the bootloader.
I've tried FolderMount but the UI is rather sparse/counter-intuitive and the three apps I tried with on the free version seemed to either break entirely, or just re-downloaded their data back to internal storage.
I've checked out the ROM Toolbox, but the options to move to SD card are greyed out on every game I check, as is the convert to user app option (as I assume games downloaded from the Play Store are already set as User apps).
Folder mount should work fine, the problem is if you haven't set it to auto mount after boot, or you open the app before mounting is complete it won't find the data and thus redownloads it. Working fine with Co-pilot for me.
I did have it set to Auto-Mount after boot and was waiting for the progress bar to finish saying it had moved the data before trying to open the apps.
I think one of the main things I didn't like about the app was also the interface. It seemed impossible to actually undo anything once it was done, in the free version at least. Does the full version have a more fleshed out interface?
No, only difference is the limit on number of pairs is removed, long click on the pair should allow you to amend details of pairing. Yes UI is spare but it does work.