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Right now I've been happy running the Droid X2's stock Motorola Android 2.3.4 (rooted). That has met my needs (and wants) but only in a "meh" kind of way. After seeing some of the screenshots and user reviews about some alternative Android builds out there, I decided it's time to give one a try. Awhile ago, there were only one or two different ROMs for the X2 so the choices were limited, but simple. Now, I'm seeing some awesome things like CM7 running on the X2.
I'd really like to dual boot, if possible. That way, if the other ROM is crashing too much, or killing the battery, I can switch back when I need to. Is this possible with, say, CM7? I've also heard some good things about Eclipse. Namely stability. Stability isn't the highest priority for me, as long as it works most of the time.
So, what do you think is the best alternative ROM out there for the X2 for someone who is willing to try something unstable but still usable? If it can dual boot (if that's even possible on the X2) with my currently installed stock ROM, that'd be a big plus.
EDIT: I've also been looking into MIUI, but I'm not sure if the nice design is enough to sway me.
There isn't really anything you can do as far as dual booting goes with the x2. What you could do, is create a backup using BSR and then flash between those backups. You'd still need to have a wall charger to change between the two, but it works. it's what I've been doing with MIUI because I still want HDMI mirroring.
Cm7 is very stable and it's what i use. There are only a few things that aren't functioning, but they are minor and won't cause any frustration for most. If you were satisfied with stock blur then you will love cm7. My first choice for blur based roms is eclipse. Very stable, very reliable and an overall great experience.
Dual booting would essentially be nandroiding like skel said. I've run into issues doing this with cm7 though, md5 got messed up but it works for most and has worked for me before.
Enjoy flashing your new roms, it becomes an addiction quickly.
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That's probably what I'll do. Make a backup and start the adventure. Haha.
Just installed CM7. What a beast.
Its incredible isn't it. Like one of the worlds wonders but in electronic form.
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cm7 is indeed a beast. took my phone a few days a wipes to get used to it but im running strong now.
My only concern with it right now is battery performance.
Go to the market and download Battery Calibration. Once downloaded charge all the way to 100% and run the app. I was on Eclipse and now run CM7 and will never look back. It's way faster and my battery life is great.
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
Getting fairly good battery on this ROM too. Pleasantly surprised.
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I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
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Eclipse works fine for me on 2.3.4 not much of anything really changed from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 basically the same thing
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So i bought one on Thursday and it arrived today. I just noticed that a leaked version of ICS was released just now, do you guys think I should use that? or cm9? or another ROM? Really not liking the touchwiz
I'm upgrading from a captivate which had cm7
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So i bought one on Thursday and it arrived today. I just noticed that a leaked version of ICS was released just now, do you guys think I should use that? or cm9? or another ROM? Really not liking the touchwiz
I'm upgrading from a captivate which had cm7
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Currently, this is the bestestest ICS ROM out right now for the "one".
http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh
If you just got it today I would suggest you start reading guides and FAQs. When you think you have it, read it all again. Its similar to the Captivate, but different enough you can do some damage if you aren't paying attention.
That said, the leak just dropped is not ready immediately for use. There is no "best" ROM, try many of them. There are several ICS ROMs, both AOSP and TW based. They are in the dev sections.
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Thanks guys, anything in special i should watch out for? that maybe the captivate didnt have?
Right now the ICS leak contains bootloaders and a stock Samsung kernel - stock Samsung ICS kernels SUCK, even the I9100 release ones.
ICS will be more polished in a few days. Since we have had kernel source for only a week - things aren't quite polished yet.
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Right now the ICS leak contains bootloaders and a stock Samsung kernel - stock Samsung ICS kernels SUCK, even the I9100 release ones.
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Just curious, why do stock Samsung ICS kernels suck? And how do you know that already? I was under the impression that we never had stock ICS i777 kernels until we got the leak today, so have you already looked at/tested them and compared them to your own? Just want to know the thought process
EDIT: You edited your post. I didn't know we had the stock kernel already. Still, what about it makes it so bad?
Some think else look into from that have Kay setting installed it is AMAZING what he did with the sgs2 that said have fun and do sum looking in i9100 section most of there roms are cross flashable with hell raiser...
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It's brand new and shiney. Might be best to give it a workout for a week or so to make sure everything is functional and stays functional. Not like it happens alot but there are lemons out there. No sensce causing yourself the xtra grief of wondering if you killed the phone or it already had a fatal flaw.
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Just curious, why do stock Samsung ICS kernels suck? And how do you know that already? I was under the impression that we never had stock ICS i777 kernels until we got the leak today, so have you already looked at/tested them and compared them to your own? Just want to know the thought process
EDIT: You edited your post. I didn't know we had the stock kernel already. Still, what about it makes it so bad?
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fuel_alerted wakelock (fixed in source-built custom kernels - we fixed it 6 months ago for Gingerbread, we had to fix it again for ICS)
Instabilities if you use SetCPU (still not fixed, but fundamentally can't be fixed for a binary kernel)
Let me do my noob question here then.
My GS2 has 2 months old. On this time i've tested a few ROMs and Kernels.
I just dont know how to erase all the phone data. I just came out from a bootloop erasing the data and everything else but the folders are still there.
I did a little search but didnt find any info... also nothing on FAQs.
Sorry to use your post man
I'm a noob but i did my research. Keep on GB for a week or 2.
I do use ICScrew Rom. Work fine. Came with a good kernel and you can also flash the entropy one.
There are several others rom that work fine just choose one to get more experienced.
cya
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It's brand new and shiney. Might be best to give it a workout for a week or so to make sure everything is functional and stays functional. Not like it happens alot but there are lemons out there. No sensce causing yourself the xtra grief of wondering if you killed the phone or it already had a fatal flaw.
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Sounds like a great idea, I always had trouble with 3g on the captivate, never knew if it was my fault or the phone's
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So i bought one on Thursday and it arrived today. I just noticed that a leaked version of ICS was released just now, do you guys think I should use that? or cm9? or another ROM? Really not liking the touchwiz
I'm upgrading from a captivate which had cm7
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I have ran probably about 6 different ROMs and the last 2 that I have ran, I swear by - took me about 3 months to finally understand the terminology, but an odexed based rom is butter smooth and runs good if the author put some time and effort into it.
My suggestion is ShiShirRom found in the Dev section or if you prefer to help "beta" test his ICS rom which is based off of the leaked AT&T S2 Rom - then give that one a try. It runs really well and I have had no issues personally.
Hah! I just got mine yesterday, and I've been playing with it. I've never had a smart phone before this, but I do have a Asus Transformer so I have experience sticking on custom roms and ****ting all over it (of course, I'm really just going through the motions outlined by the pros in that xda forum..).
My girlfriend has a DX2, rooted it for her a few months back so I'm not really up to date with any new DX news. I'm looking at the forums and there is a lot of new information, a lot to take it. What is the most stable ROM out right now, something that can be used everyday?
Eclipse 2.1/2.2
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Stock 2.3.5 Rooted
For stability eclipse is king
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CM 7.2 RC1 has been extremely stable for me application wise. I would highly recommend it.
eclipse 2.2 is pretty damn stable but i prefer cm7 or even cm9 now. imo cm roms have more goodies
In all honesty don't flash cm9 expecting stability...
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In all honesty don't flash cm9 expecting stability...
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im not saying its stable. im just saying imo i prefer the cm roms. and cm9 feels just as stable as cm7 did already
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im not saying its stable. im just saying imo i prefer the cm roms. and cm9 feels just as stable as cm7 did already
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It's an alpha release. There's more bugs than working features...OP is asking for an all around STABLE ROM. Probably shouldn't point him towards an alpha release... I swear all of these people saying it's just as stable as cyanogenmod7 are under the placebo effect.........
[email protected] OP - I tried CM7 and loved it. Flashed CM9 and yeah it's really buggy right now, but give it some time and devs will iron all that stuff out. Tons of potential, just not there yet. As of right now though, steer clear if you're looking for a 100% stable ROM. Once I played with 9 for a bit and went back to 7 I felt like it was the most stable ROM in the world. I Actually had to check the Cyanogenmod7.2 thread to remember the issues with it lol.
Well today I SBF'ed and tried eclipse. I have to say, you can't really customize it as much as CM7 but it is hands down a very reliable daily driver. Some people have wifi issues with it, but I don't- so I really have nothing bad to say about it.
CM9 - Not so much for stability
CM7 - Stable(beta) - My personal DD
Eclipse - Stable...Awesome, just not my cup of tea
Plus let's face it. This is for your GIRLFRIEND after all, right? You think she wants a working phone? Or a buggy one? Because I'm pretty sure YOU are the one that's gonna hear it if she has problems. I would imagine flashing CM9 on her X2 will put you in the doghouse pretty damn quick.
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I found CM 7.2 to be very stable when I used it. The only issue that I ever had with it was the wifi would sometimes only connect when when I went into settings.
And honestly, CM9 has been working great for me too, I know it is still alpha but i have had 0 issues so far.
I've been running CM7 RC1 for just over a week now and I LOVE it! This was my first time rooting and installing a ROM and I couldn't be happier. SOOOO much better than stock in every way and solid as a rock. I haven't had a single random reboot since installing it - whereas I used to get several a week on the stock ROM. If the phone had run this good out of the box, I probably never would have tried to modify it. I had planned to try Eclipse just to check it out but I like CM7 so much, I'll probably just stick with it. I'll probably flash CM9 once it matures some and reaches beta.
Eclipse 2.2, or as someone suggested, just a rooted, carefully debloated official 2.3.5.
Fyi, something as intermediate as removing bloat can make the phone unstable, ie, start removing the wrong authentication services, etc.
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I'm running Eclipse 2.1 with Zepplinroks scripts. It's very nice!
I know some of you will say, "Why not get Galaxy S3?" or Why not get cheaper LG Viper 4G LTE?" The reason is I cant. I cant upgrade to 2012 smartphone without losing my old data plan. If i do that, I will be forced to get new data plan which is $54.99. Im on Sprint Relay Data only for $39.99( Im hard of hearing btw) RIght now, I have Samsung Epic 4G. Pretty old I know and it tend to die fast even with new Galaxy SII battery. I am a techie guy that know how to root and install custom roms. Right now, Im thinking abt getting Motorola Photon 4G since it can be hack to run on tmobile/At&t when I planning to leave Sprint in the future. Is Motorola Photon is a good phone??? (In term of hardware)
I have it and I think its a great phone hardware speaking
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I have another question. Can I just unlock bootloader, flash different rom, then relock bootloader to get 4G back. Can I do it?
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I have another question. Can I just unlock bootloader, flash different rom, then relock bootloader to get 4G back. Can I do it?
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Nope. It's not the rom that's the problem, its having that rom use a non stock kernel. To keep 4g, you would have to use a psuedorom that doesnt mess with the kernel. The only one still in development is MOF's 2.3.5ish rom.
But yes, the Photon is an amazing phone. Without a doubt the best I've ever had. And ICS is supposed to officially drop soon so that means our Jelly Bean and ICS roms will be working flawlessly. The only risk you run in ordering a Photon is that it might already have 2.3.5 on it. If this is the case, you wont be able to unlock thus unable to install any custom roms. If you do choose to get it, order it from ebay or something and make sure to ask the seller to verify it still has 2.3.4 on it by going into About Phone.
alright thanks for clarification
Great choice for you as you can have a very good phone at a affordable price. I am on Cm10 on my photon it's fantastic can give any 2012 phone a value for money competition
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Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
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Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
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What a steal
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Cm10 is very stable. It has been my daily driver for past two days absolutely no issues except minor niggles already mentioned(white screen in camera but still takes beautiful pictures, camcorder not working etc)
jellybean popping on Cm10
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Found MotoPho with Android 2.3.4 on ebay for $160. Perfect! Will be buying on Tues night
Is CM10 is stable now (like very useful for daily driving)?
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Considering it was released last week it's stable as hell. Obviously it'll take a bit to work out the kinks. Sending/receiving mms messages is messed up for some people, camera is a bit laggy, camcorder doesnt work, noticeable twitching in general due to the lack of 2d libs, overheats slightly, and some are reporting iffy battery life. But the exact same problems exist on our CM9 and that has been out for many months. Basically, it's about as stable as its gonna get without the proper pieces we need from Motorola. Considering they said the Atrix's official ICS build is coming in Q3 and our Photon is nearly the exact same phone, I would say we'll have the pieces we need by the end of August or mid September. Guess we will see. Congrats on getting such a good price!
Need help finding ROM with Vanilla launcher
Just brought Motorola Photon 4G on ebay and it will come on Sat or Mon! I also told him not to update it haha.
Meanwhile, i want a stable vanilla rom and this rom is close as vanilla rom. Can I flash that rom ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224896 Or any roms that have vanilla launcher. Not a big fan of ADW launcher btw.
Yeah you should be able to flash that, but it is kind of outdated. If you want to use cm7 you don't have to use adw launcher. Just download a different one.
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Hmm, i can do that. What abt CM9 for MotoPho?
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Hmm, i can do that. What abt CM9 for MotoPho?
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Alien is quite dated. No one has worked on that since last year. Technically, CyanogenMod is vanilla android with extra customization options. Blows AOSP out of the water and is clean as a whistle. CM7.2(gingerbread), CM9(ICS), CM10(JB) -- take your pick! Id start out with 7.2 as everything works flawlessly. Once you are familiar with everything and are willing to deal with a few bugs but still stable builds, try CM9 or 10.
Hey guys my dad just got a Fascinate for his work phone and it's currently running Android version 2.3.5.. When I checked for a software update it said that was the newest version. Really? It never got ICS at least?
Now if this were my phone I would root it immediately and flash something newer onto it but it's my dad's, and he honestly does not need that many cool features and all that. Still, if the process was simple and the features were worth it, then I would be glad to do it for him.
I've been looking through the Fascinate forums and it doesn't look like any promising Jelly Bean ROMs are out. Maybe I am mistaken?
What is the most stable ROM you can recommend me that is relatively "new" as far as Android goes, as this Fascinate is still 2.3.5. I would just like something relatively new that is still being developed/updated, and is stable as it's my dad's phone and I can't constantly be babysitting it and fixing any issues.
Thanks guys (I have a feeling CM10 or so is the ROM I am looking for, as 10.1 doesn't seem to be up, but just let me know what is your opinion.)
Unfortunately yes, after the 2.3.5 update the Fascinate was completely left out in the cold and never got any further official updates. Lucky for us though, we have some extremely talented developers that have done far better than any crap Verizon might have pushed out on us.
You are certainly mistaken about the Jelly Bean Roms, there are a few really good options. Personally I'm running AOKP Milestone 1 (4.1.2) with Devil kernel and that's been my daily driver for a while now. CM10 would probably be your best bet for a 'stable' rom, although nothing is broken on AOKP too, so it's more a personal preference. The biggest issues that I see on here are related to phone calls (speakerphone, ringtone not playing, etc) so if he's to be on the phone a lot then you should probably skip JB honestly. This isn't to say there are workarounds and fixes but as you said, you don't want to be consistently fixing it, so...
Anyway, if it's his work phone and he values stability above all else and doesn't care about bells and whistles then perhaps staying with a good Gingerbread rom would actually be the best way to go.... Superclean and TSM Resurrection come to mind.
Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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sorry for off-topic, but what is your cpu OCd to if OCd at all
I've been running 200MHz min / 1200MHz max and screen off 200MHz min / 800MHz max (normal OC, not LiveOC). Battery life has been pretty good with it and it seems to be less sluggish vs stock. I also undervolt quite heavily too, you can check my thread I made about it in General a while back for my settings. I'm certainly not one of those people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance from their phones because I personally value battery life above performance, but I certainly don't want a sluggish phone either so I've tried to find a good balance
Alright guys thanks a lot for the suggestions I saw several of these myself and did the reading it was just hard to decipher it all considering I was new to the Fascinate
I've tried most of the jb ROMs for fascinate and settled for baked black bean v6 with devil kernel 1.9.5. Runs great but been having issues with MMS.
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Same here bbb6 with devil 1.9.5. But to fix my issues with MMS I just move to using "go SMS" with custom MMS setting and removed the stock app.
Side note: I do find "go SMS" to be horrible app along with the dev team. I mean yes the app works and yes I use it. But only because I have too. The is always nagging me to go try another theme, to get there launcher, or its sending me fake chat messages about how I should there go chat feature. I mean I have a list of things I dislike about it. But again it does get the job done....
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So what doesn't work about your guys MMS,,, and are you Verizon or someone else
Mine has always worked fine,,, I'm page plus through Verizon
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Power washed is a good 2.3 rom
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I'm using revol wireless. And I can get MMS to work. But it's way slower sending through the stock app then when I send through go SMS. Plus go allows me to rotate my PICs before I send them.
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