[Q] How to temp un-root MK2 for Warranty? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Am having trouble un-rooting MK2 for warranty work and could use some pointers.
Here's the problem: I'm not getting 4G/LTE signal, even in dense urban areas.
I think I need a new SIM, which will entail a trip to the Verizon Store, which means un-rooting.
I recently upgraded to a Galaxy S4. I have Unlimited Data, so I did the upgrade on another line, then used my existing SIM from my Galaxy Nexus to activate. It seemed to work fine.
Then did the following:
• Rooted
• WiFi Tether hack
• Installed Xposed and Wanum to remove custom boot screen
So I read the various un-root threads. This seems the most useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
but I'm concerned about the warning about losing the Loki Exploit and not being able to re-root.
If I ODIN the factory image, will I still be able to root it without Loki?
Other threads recommended a full-reset, which I did from stock recovery. Afterwards, I am still rooted and the Custom boot screen still appears.
So, how can I get back to a factory state to get a new SIM and then still be able to re-root?
Being able to use SafeStrap would be nice, but my main requirements are Root and WiFi tether. I can live with Nova Launcher over stock TouchWiz. I backed up the customized image in TiBu so I'll be able to restore once re-rooted.
Thoughts?

jpinsl said:
Am having trouble un-rooting MK2 for warranty work and could use some pointers.
Here's the problem: I'm not getting 4G/LTE signal, even in dense urban areas.
I think I need a new SIM, which will entail a trip to the Verizon Store, which means un-rooting.
I recently upgraded to a Galaxy S4. I have Unlimited Data, so I did the upgrade on another line, then used my existing SIM from my Galaxy Nexus to activate. It seemed to work fine.
Then did the following:
• Rooted
• WiFi Tether hack
• Installed Xposed and Wanum to remove custom boot screen
So I read the various un-root threads. This seems the most useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
but I'm concerned about the warning about losing the Loki Exploit and not being able to re-root.
If I ODIN the factory image, will I still be able to root it without Loki?
Other threads recommended a full-reset, which I did from stock recovery. Afterwards, I am still rooted and the Custom boot screen still appears.
So, how can I get back to a factory state to get a new SIM and then still be able to re-root?
Being able to use SafeStrap would be nice, but my main requirements are Root and WiFi tether. I can live with Nova Launcher over stock TouchWiz. I backed up the customized image in TiBu so I'll be able to restore once re-rooted.
Thoughts?
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Don't worry about any of this. I just did this few weeks ago. They don't care about your phone status as far as custom goes for a new Sim Card. Alls they do is put it in and power it back up. And your good.
As far as the other things you said.. If you're on MK2 build then nothing to do with Loki applies to you.
Anyways..... You're going to be just fine.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
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By the way... I went into Verizon running a custom recovery and a AOSP ROM. Your on mk2 which is still Stock TW. All the menus and settings are the same. They are not in a AOSP ROM like mine was.
The Verizon people were actually jealous of my phone .
Its when you send your phone in for an insurance claim that you want to do what you originally asked about.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

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OTA unlocked and rooted what to do ?

I'm on 4.1.1 and used one click root & unlock on this forum.
This morning I woke up to an OTA but declined and asked to post pone till 5/13.
What do I do ? I can't afford a bricked phone, nor do I care to grab an update.
I have a feeling on the post pone date it will automatically update.
Sent from my SCH-i605 on Verizon 4G LTE.
SoCalArm said:
I'm on 4.1.1 and used one click root & unlock on this forum.
This morning I woke up to an OTA but declined and asked to post pone till 5/13.
What do I do ? I can't afford a bricked phone, nor do I care to grab an update.
I have a feeling on the post pone date it will automatically update.
Sent from my SCH-i605 on Verizon 4G LTE.
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I'd also like to know about this. I used CASUAL to root my phone, and while I appreciate the features in the 4.1.2 update, I really don't want to lose root. Any insight into this matter would be appreciated.
Perhaps this is what you are looking for if your just worried about keeping root:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Updating won't 'brick' your phone (not sure if that is even possible with this phone without doing something incredibly drastic). Worst case you can always Odin back to stock - just back everything up first. Excellent guide here on how to do that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
But since you are unlocked I would look into flashing a custom ROM to get the full advantage of it (Jelly Beans or CleanRom are excellent). Tutorial on that is also in the link above.
Hope this helps.
“System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone.”
heric1 said:
Updating won't 'brick' your phone (not sure if that is even possible with this phone without doing something incredibly drastic). Worst case you can always Odin back to stock - just back everything up first. Excellent guide here on how to do that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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I clicked yes on the update and now I get this message on boot and I can't get to the recovery menu:
“System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone. Please turn off your phone and go to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help.”
Things I did to my phone prior to this:
- rooted with Framapak
- CWM installed
- Encrypted the internal storage
I'll be praying to Odin tonight...
Use Root Explorer or equivalent and delete the SDM.apk in system/apps. This is the apk that checks for updates.
Oh and if you want to keep root it is never a good idea to accept an OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36922297
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
markustlaumann said:
I clicked yes on the update and now I get this message on boot and I can't get to the recovery menu:
“System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone. Please turn off your phone and go to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help.”
Things I did to my phone prior to this:
- rooted with Framapak
- CWM installed
- Encrypted the internal storage
I'll be praying to Odin tonight...
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Odin can be picky after using casual also (try the rooted odin file if stock fails as well, thats what i had to do). You may need to remove the casual drivers as well for odin to recognize the phone, below is a link on that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzghcV8HVVk
Also the new release of casual for the 4.1.2 update is set to be released tonight, does anyone know if he could just re-run and to get root and a custom recovery back?
Hopefully not needed.
heric1 said:
You may need to remove the casual drivers as well for odin to recognize the phone
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Thankfully I was able to get it to boot into recovery mode eventually. Odin and Kies worked correctly to recognize the phone in download mode and I tried the root66 image with no luck. I'm downloading the VRALJB now to see if that works.
Update: I got my phone back to stock using the guide heric1 posted and the "alternate restore" image here. No bricks in my house.
Use this to update won't loose root...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269736
TaPpEd from my TwEaKeD N2
SoCalArm said:
I'm on 4.1.1 and used one click root & unlock on this forum.
This morning I woke up to an OTA but declined and asked to post pone till 5/13.
What do I do ? I can't afford a bricked phone, nor do I care to grab an update.
I have a feeling on the post pone date it will automatically update.
Sent from my SCH-i605 on Verizon 4G LTE.
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Take a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261478 created by developer beanstown106. Here you will find the latest update modified and placed into a flashable zip file through your custom recovery. If you flash one of those two files that he has, you can have the latest update, keep your root and unlocked bootloader, and be on a stock ROM.
There are two versions of the stock 4.1.2 ROM. The odex version doesn't allow for custom themes to be flash over the stock ROM, while the deodex version does allow for custom themes to be flashed over the stock ROM.
If you don't want 4.1.2 altogether, you can use Titanium Backup or My Backup Pro to freeze the SDM 1.0 file. A slightly more challenging method would be to use Root Explorer or something similar to it to go in and modify the name of the file.
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For me I use the odex because I have no intention on using themes. My custom ROM and theming days have long passed. All I need is the ability create backups of my stock ROM and the ability to take advantage or root required applications such as Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro.
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markustlaumann said:
I clicked yes on the update and now I get this message on boot and I can't get to the recovery menu:
“System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone. Please turn off your phone and go to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help.”
Things I did to my phone prior to this:
- rooted with Framapak
- CWM installed
- Encrypted the internal storage
I'll be praying to Odin tonight...
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Check out this thread right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107738 if you are experiencing the "System software not authorized by Verizon Wireless has been found on your phone. Please turn off your phone and go to the nearest Verizon Wireless store for help" crap. That should get your phone back up and running.
I ended up doing a nandroid back up aswell ass app and data backup and flashing beans. With the help from a admin over at note2forums. So that's my update and I'm digging 4.1.2
I also got something from here that made multi window fantastic and a clear notification bar as well as other goodies.
Sent from my SCH-i605 on Verizon 4G LTE.

[Q] Rooted MJ7, what now?

Hey guys, completely new here. I have had my S4 for awhile now and decided to finally root my device. I came across the vroot method and rooted my MJ7 s4. I now (stupidly) realize that not only is there little support for MJ7, but also that vroot has not been confirmed safe as it is a Chinese root method. My phone appears to work perfectly and I can confirm that it is rooted under MJ7 with no issues so far, but my question is: is there any way to err...uproot it and go back to stock until a safe method is confirmed? Or should I just wait until an Odin file is released? Like I said the phone works perfectly, I am just cautious and don't know what the next step is. Thanks!
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ProtossPaul said:
Hey guys, completely new here. I have had my S4 for awhile now and decided to finally root my device. I came across the vroot method and rooted my MJ7 s4. I now (stupidly) realize that not only is there little support for MJ7, but also that vroot has not been confirmed safe as it is a Chinese root method. My phone appears to work perfectly and I can confirm that it is rooted under MJ7 with no issues so far, but my question is: is there any way to err...uproot it and go back to stock until a safe method is confirmed? Or should I just wait until an Odin file is released? Like I said the phone works perfectly, I am just cautious and don't know what the next step is. Thanks!
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Well you're on mj7 like I am and that means we sit and wait for someone to find us a way to either run Safestrap or a bootloader unlock for custom recovery.
There already are Odin files in here and someone made a script to remove the Chinese superuser you're talking about and replace it with chainfires supersu.
Search around on here a little bit Youll find all that.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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Here's a video on the entire vroot method plus supersu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
And here's a link to an Odin file, although I don't think you really need it. Plus it's a full Wipe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507253
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
No
Well you're on mj7 like I am and that means we sit and wait for someone to find us a way to either run Safestrap or a bootloader unlock for custom recovery.
There already are Odin files in here and someone made a script to remove the Chinese superuser you're talking about and replace it with chainfires supersu.
Search around on here a little bit Youll find all that.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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Here's a video on the entire vroot method plus supersu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
And here's a link to an Odin file, although I don't think you really need it. Plus it's a full Wipe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507253
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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Okay great, I assume I used the same method as you did, I also have supersu so I suppose that means the Chinese garbage is gone. There really can't be any harm in leaving it in the current rooted MJ7 state right? I mean support will be released eventually. Waiting for safestrap seems like the best option just as far as safety is concerned. I have zero experience with rooting or flashing so I will wait for support to do a Titanium backup or something.
ProtossPaul said:
Okay great, I assume I used the same method as you did, I also have supersu so I suppose that means the Chinese garbage is gone. There really can't be any harm in leaving it in the current rooted MJ7 state right? I mean support will be released eventually. Waiting for safestrap seems like the best option just as far as safety is concerned. I have zero experience with rooting or flashing so I will wait for support to do a Titanium backup or something.
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No that's our only option as of now. I'd go into titanium and freeze sdm and fwupgrade so that in the event there is another OTA you can wait to see if there is a method to retain root through it. Always look on here first before taking any OTA.!!!
I'm on mj7 rooted and I'm running xposed framework to customize my s4 quite a bit... And then I just remove /freeze everything I don't want using Titanium. And I'm happy with my phone.
The devs are working on both Safestrap and unlocking the bootloader. It's a lot of work but those guys are on here working diligently.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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Also here's a thread listing some of the things people have been freezing using Titanium.
Maybe itll help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314265
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
No that's our only option as of now. I'd go into titanium and freeze sdm and fwupgrade so that in the event there is another OTA you can wait to see if there is a method to retain root through it. Always look on here first before taking any OTA.!!!
I'm on mj7 rooted and I'm running xposed framework to customize my s4 quite a bit... And then I just remove /freeze everything I don't want using Titanium. And I'm happy with my phone.
The devs are working on both Safestrap and unlocking the bootloader. It's a lot of work but those guys are on here working diligently.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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Also here's a thread listing some of the things people have been freezing using Titanium.
Maybe itll help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314265
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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I really should have done more research before doing this, but can you explain to me the reason to use safestrap when you have flashed a recovery on Titanium backup? I thought that if you screwed anything up you could just revert to your last flash on Titanium. Also unlocking the bootloader is going to allow us to use custom ROMS right? Sorry, really trying to get up to speed, it's a difficult time to get into this with MJ7. I really just want to go about this in the safest way possible.
ProtossPaul said:
I really should have done more research before doing this, but can you explain to me the reason to use safestrap when you have flashed a recovery on Titanium backup? I thought that if you screwed anything up you could just revert to your last flash on Titanium. Also unlocking the bootloader is going to allow us to use custom ROMS right? Sorry, really trying to get up to speed, it's a difficult time to get into this with MJ7. I really just want to go about this in the safest way possible.
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Well.. Couple things..
First off since we have an mj7 Verizon S4 there is no flashing anything at all. No roms at all. Titanium backup is a tool that can save all your system and user data/apps. As well as uninstall and freeze things.
Safestrap if it ever gets to us just allows the flashing of roms on a '' safe'' location on our phones. It doesn't touch our actual mj7 Samsung Touchwiz.
No custom recovery like Clockwork Mod for us because the bootloader is locked up!
There are many people on here working on both of these issues with the bootloader itself and going the Safestrap route as well.
For now grab titanium and freeze those two things I mentioned earlier so that your phone recieves no further updates. You don't want an update until you know there is a safe way to root, or keep root, if that's important to ya.
Other than that you can use xposed framework and modules to hook up you're phone.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
Well.. Couple things..
First off since we have an mj7 Verizon S4 there is no flashing anything at all. No roms at all. Titanium backup is a tool that can save all your system and user data/apps. As well as uninstall and freeze things.
Safestrap if it ever gets to us just allows the flashing of roms on a '' safe'' location on our phones. It doesn't touch our actual mj7 Samsung Touchwiz.
No custom recovery like Clockwork Mod for us because the bootloader is locked up!
There are many people on here working on both of these issues with the bootloader itself and going the Safestrap route as well.
For now grab titanium and freeze those two things I mentioned earlier so that your phone recieves no further updates. You don't want an update until you know there is a safe way to root, or keep root, if that's important to ya.
Other than that you can use xposed framework and modules to hook up you're phone.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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First of all, I want to say thanks so much for helping me. I know it wasn't addressed in the title of my thread but I really do appreciate it. I have noticed that people seem skeptical about doing anything on the rooted MJ7 framework so I just thought I should ask of its safe to do Titanium without bricking my phone? Not only have I never done it before but I am cautious if it is safe because I haven't backed anything up yet. Didn't want to use an old method now that we are on MJ7). Can I use the current version of titanium with MJ7 safely? Also what can I do with the Xposed framework? I thought that was used to load custom ROMS?
Thank you SO much.
Alright, so I have some questions that can probably be chalked up in the 'Rooted MJ7, what now?' category. I can't specifically find these answers, but I've read a ton of what basically boils down to, you can't do sh*t with mj7.
So I realize there's no flashing ROMs on mj7, which sucks a big one, but that's fine, I'll deal.
I've rooted the phone via vroot and all is good there. Triangle away doesn't seem to work, but whatever. It's highly unlikely that I'll need to take the phone into the store.
My biggest gripe is that I can't seem to get adb to work to push files to the phone. I keep getting 'permission denied' errors when I get to the 'adb push ..............' part. Near as I can tell from my reading, this is because the bootloader is locked. Is that right? I tried adding 'ro.secure=1' to 0 in default.prop, but that didn't work. I was trying to push a modded services.odex to /system/framework. Does anyone know how to get adb fully working on a rooted mj7? If you check my sig., you'll see that I'm not a total noob persay. I've been using adb for years. I have all the right files installed on my PC and what not.
ProtossPaul said:
First of all, I want to say thanks so much for helping me. I know it wasn't addressed in the title of my thread but I really do appreciate it. I have noticed that people seem skeptical about doing anything on the rooted MJ7 framework so I just thought I should ask of its safe to do Titanium without bricking my phone? Not only have I never done it before but I am cautious if it is safe because I haven't backed anything up yet. Didn't want to use an old method now that we are on MJ7). Can I use the current version of titanium with MJ7 safely? Also what can I do with the Xposed framework? I thought that was used to load custom ROMS?
Thank you SO much.
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Titanium is not used to load roms. It's used for backing things up primarily and that's it. It can also uninstall /freeze things, but that's all.
There's not really much we can do now except use xposed framework/mods to customize our phones. It is very safe and everything is located right here on xda.
For now take a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383484
Read from beginning and install the framework first, then Wanam.
It explains everything.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
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sharkie405 said:
Alright, so I have some questions that can probably be chalked up in the 'Rooted MJ7, what now?' category. I can't specifically find these answers, but I've read a ton of what basically boils down to, you can't do sh*t with mj7.
So I realize there's no flashing ROMs on mj7, which sucks a big one, but that's fine, I'll deal.
I've rooted the phone via vroot and all is good there. Triangle away doesn't seem to work, but whatever. It's highly unlikely that I'll need to take the phone into the store.
My biggest gripe is that I can't seem to get adb to work to push files to the phone. I keep getting 'permission denied' errors when I get to the 'adb push ..............' part. Near as I can tell from my reading, this is because the bootloader is locked. Is that right? I tried adding 'ro.secure=1' to 0 in default.prop, but that didn't work. I was trying to push a modded services.odex to /system/framework. Does anyone know how to get adb fully working on a rooted mj7? If you check my sig., you'll see that I'm not a total noob persay. I've been using adb for years. I have all the right files installed on my PC and what not.
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No there's no custom recovery or even Safestrap, which means no roms yet unfortunately.
There's no triangle away either but I've seen some folks working on something like Knox Away which is the same kind of thing since we're all stuck with Knox now!
As far as your ADB questions I'm not your guy for that. I'd say though that maybe it's got to do with the new security we have on these things now for sure.
I'm sure someone way more qualified than me can lead you in the right direction.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Mistertac said:
...but I've seen some folks working on something like Knox Away which is the same kind of thing since we're all stuck with Knox now!
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I've deleted all the Knox files I could find (about 12 or so) using FX Explorer along with some other security stuff that I found. I guess that's not enough to fully get rid of Knox since I still have that 'custom' screen at boot...
Man, I really wish I would have done more reading before deciding to go with a Samsung. Oh well, despite all this, it's still a great phone.
Thanks for your reply.
sharkie405 said:
I've deleted all the Knox files I could find (about 12 or so) using FX Explorer along with some other security stuff that I found. I guess that's not enough to fully get rid of Knox since I still have that 'custom' screen at boot...
Man, I really wish I would have done more reading before deciding to go with a Samsung. Oh well, despite all this, it's still a great phone.
Thanks for your reply.
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No there's no getting rid of Knox, it's part of the actual bootloader and kernel on some level. You can get rid of the Knox app which is on our phones but that's about it.
I was thinking the same thing about getting an S4 but from what I've read this sort of security is going to be more common on a lot of phones not just Samsung.
That custom screen went away on my phone, I wouldn't worry so much about that.
The s4 is an awesome phone, take a look at all the xposed modules you can add and really customize it.
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!

[Q] VZW S4 overheated lost my MDK

Hey guys... I need some help.I have many questions.
So as the title says. My S4 over heated. It's actually been happening for a while and the glass had begun separating from the digitizer over the last few months. A few day ago I awoke to a blotched out black screen that blacks out every so often.
I held off getting a replacement because I was rooted, loki'd on the MDK bootloader.
My replacement arrived today and it was the MK2 baseband. Upon start up VZW tried to push the OTA to me. i stopped it and postponed it to 6:00 AM eastern, MDK was easy, but I'm not familiar with this new process and had some questions. So using searches on XDA I have:
1) Rooted with Saferoot
2) Installed Wanam Xposed
3) Renamed SDM.apk & FWUpgrade.apk to .bak's to the update <-- was this right? I dont want to wake up to a voluntarily installed OTA.
Questions
1) Should I install SafeStrap, if so which version? I see there's an ATT version out there for upgrading to NC5, but there's also a MK2 version.
2) I see a lot up people were able to update to NC5 and keep root with Surge's method. Is there an advantage to this?
3) What's everyone doing for hotspot/tethering now on MK2 and up?
4) On MDK, most of the ROMs were debloated. What do I do to get rid of some of this VZW bloat on here.
Now I need help with the old phone.
Even though the other phone over-heated. I can just see VZW rejecting the exchange because I was rooted, Now with the screen being all black blotches and cutting out, I can't really return it to stock. The phone turns on, and works. I just cant see what's on the screen.
Is there a way for me to utilize my computer to unroot, return to stock recovery, and install a stock ROM all without being able to see the screen on the phone?
I don't want to delete my old Clockwork Mod nandroids from my SD card until I can return the old phone to stock.
Thanks for your help in advance.
ymDroid said:
Hey guys... I need some help.I have many questions.
So as the title says. My S4 over heated. It's actually been happening for a while and the glass had begun separating from the digitizer over the last few months. A few day ago I awoke to a blotched out black screen that blacks out every so often.
I held off getting a replacement because I was rooted, loki'd on the MDK bootloader.
My replacement arrived today and it was the MK2 baseband. Upon start up VZW tried to push the OTA to me. i stopped it and postponed it to 6:00 AM eastern, MDK was easy, but I'm not familiar with this new process and had some questions. So using searches on XDA I have:
1) Rooted with Saferoot
2) Installed Wanam Xposed
3) Renamed SDM.apk & FWUpgrade.apk to .bak's to the update <-- was this right? I dont want to wake up to a voluntarily installed OTA.
Questions
1) Should I install SafeStrap, if so which version? I see there's an ATT version out there for upgrading to NC5, but there's also a MK2 version.
2) I see a lot up people were able to update to NC5 and keep root with Surge's method. Is there an advantage to this?
3) What's everyone doing for hotspot/tethering now on MK2 and up?
4) On MDK, most of the ROMs were debloated. What do I do to get rid of some of this VZW bloat on here.
Now I need help with the old phone.
Even though the other phone over-heated. I can just see VZW rejecting the exchange because I was rooted, Now with the screen being all black blotches and cutting out, I can't really return it to stock. The phone turns on, and works. I just cant see what's on the screen.
Is there a way for me to utilize my computer to unroot, return to stock recovery, and install a stock ROM all without being able to see the screen on the phone?
I don't want to delete my old Clockwork Mod nandroids from my SD card until I can return the old phone to stock.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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1. Install Safestrap for your corresponding baseband. If you have mk2 then install safestrap for mk2.
2. If you upgrade to NC5 and keep root you can flash 4.4.2 touchwiz roms on the stock slot usingthe att 3.72 safestrap
3. For tethering you can use foxfi or you could use surges tethering unlock
4. You can debloat stuff by just disabling the apps you dont want.
For your old phone,
1. You should be able to get your data off of it by just connecting it to your computer then copying stuff from your old phone to your computer.
2. To reset it back to mdk stock, you should boot into odin mode doing the keypress when your phone is off, then after a few seconds press volume up to comfirm boot into odin mode. Then you should be able to odin mdk stock from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751461
Best of Luck
joshuabg;52899257
2. To reset it back to mdk stock said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751461[/url]
Best of Luck
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THANK YOU.
Quick question. Does this odin MDK flash install the stock recovery back.
ymDroid said:
THANK YOU.
Quick question. Does this odin MDK flash install the stock recovery back.
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It should, I think it goes over all partitions, boot, persdata, system, recovery, modem, etc.
Won't hurt to try.

Return S4 to complete stock

Hello,
I have a VZW S4 that is currently running 4.4.2 from an OTA update sometime ago.
Prior to that, and the previous OTA update from Verizon to go to Jellybean(I believe) I had root on the device with the unlocked boot. Root was killed when I mistakenly allowed an OTA update to take place. Ever since then, the phone has been running stock roms BUT it has always shown an Unlocked padlock icon at boot. Also, since then, I have given this phone to my GF and her work has now remotely detected the phone as rooted even though it is not. I am assuming the unlocked icon has something to do with it but I do not understand enough to know that for sure.
Now that the device has 4.4.2 and there looks to be a way to restore root, I am wondering if I go through that process of rooting, if I will be able to undo whatever settings that linger that triggered her employer to detect that the phone was at least at one point rooted - is that possible? I.E., Re-root the phone, alter any settings that need to be altered/deleted, then return the phone to a stock unrooted room and bootloader.
Hope I am being clear.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thank you!
Odin back to stock.
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[Q] NC5 root, updates and backup questions

I am giving two VZW GS4's to my parents for Christmas and I would like to make things as simple as possible for them, which means getting rid of all the boatware that Verizon/Samsung includes. I'm familiar with rooting/flashing etc. with my Sprint GS4, but I am still somewhat bewildered by all the info regarding the VZW phones and all the different versions.
These VZW phones are on the NC5 baseband (?) and if I understand correctly they can be rooted with towelroot but cannot install a custom recovery because the bootloader is locked.
Once I root, will the phone still receive OTA updates and install properly, or will there just be a continual message saying that the update failed?
I don't plan on trying to install a custom ROM, but if I understand correctly the only way to do so is by using safestrap?
Is it possible to backup the phone, similar to a ROM backup in TWRP for example? Will I be able to return to a full stock state after root? In other words, after I root what happens if I do a factory data reset?
Thanks in advance.
buckeyestargazer said:
I am giving two VZW GS4's to my parents for Christmas and I would like to make things as simple as possible for them, which means getting rid of all the boatware that Verizon/Samsung includes. I'm familiar with rooting/flashing etc. with my Sprint GS4, but I am still somewhat bewildered by all the info regarding the VZW phones and all the different versions.
These VZW phones are on the NC5 baseband (?) and if I understand correctly they can be rooted with towelroot but cannot install a custom recovery because the bootloader is locked.
Once I root, will the phone still receive OTA updates and install properly, or will there just be a continual message saying that the update failed?
I don't plan on trying to install a custom ROM, but if I understand correctly the only way to do so is by using safestrap?
Is it possible to backup the phone, similar to a ROM backup in TWRP for example? Will I be able to return to a full stock state after root? In other words, after I root what happens if I do a factory data reset?
Thanks in advance.
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1. You are correct. The nc5 can only be rooted. The bootloader is not unlocked or even possible to workaround; safestrap is your only option.
2. Once you root, your phone will not be stock anymore so OTAs will not work. You must unroot and restore your phone back to stock in order to update via OTA. However, if you learn how to use ODIN, your life will become much easier.
3. Safestrap is the only way.
4. You can backup with Safestrap. Yes you will be able to return back to a full stock state using ODIN. If you use ODIN to factory reset, your phone becomes back to stock i.e. unrooted.
Raymondlikesroot said:
2. Once you root, your phone will not be stock anymore so OTAs will not work. You must unroot and restore your phone back to stock in order to update via OTA. However, if you learn how to use ODIN, your life will become much easier.
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Thanks. One more question: Once rooted, if I stay on the stock rom, will the phone still receive OTA update notifications (even though it will fail install)?
I'm a little familiar with odin so I should be able to go back to full stock if necessary.
buckeyestargazer said:
Thanks. One more question: Once rooted, if I stay on the stock rom, will the phone still receive OTA update notifications (even though it will fail install)?
I'm a little familiar with odin so I should be able to go back to full stock if necessary.
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Yes, unfortunately, you will receive constant update messages. However, if you are rooted, you can stop these messages. Download an app called "titanium Backup" and freeze fwupdate.apk. That specific app is what causes all the update messages to appear.

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