Can anyone tell me the system apps that are safe to remove on CM 10.1 rom?
Iv'e found lists for other devices such as the galaxy s 3 and galaxy y but not for atrix which has it's own unique system apps of course.
The porpuse of this is the save ram hoping to speed up a little bit my device, Iv'e notice that the fingerprint applications always running at sleep mode probably draining my battery so hopefully it will save some battery life as well.
BIG THANKS anyone helping me on this one.
As far as I know, all those devices already have a stable build of CM10.1, unlike A4G.
Therefore I wouldn't hope too much about this.
Also, the fact you see an app in the process list doesn't mean it's actually running. Don't assume, always check.
ravilov said:
As far as I know, all those devices already have a stable build of CM10.1, unlike A4G.
Therefore I wouldn't hope too much about this.
Also, the fact you see an app in the process list doesn't mean it's actually running. Don't assume, always check.
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I do assume its running based in Greenify app which keep showing fingerprint procces running on backround, downloaded betterbatterystats just to recheck it.
I guess ill have to try removing system apps that sound non-crucial (Fingerprint, Android live wallpaper) and see how goes.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.cmspen2
This is an application which allows detection of the S Pen detachment even on AOSP/AOKP/CM based ROMs.
It has only been tested on the Note 2 by me. If it works on your note device please let me know so that I can add it to the list of compatible note devices.
Explanation of how it works:
The android system automatically adds event files for each input device it detects when being installed. These event files are located in /dev/input/eventX where X denotes a particular device. These event files can be read using native C code for which I use an API provided by Radu Motisan which can be found here and also a bit more information about the event files can be found there. So now using this interface I find the event file for the S Pen and then continously read it to see if the value of the S Pen sensor has been changed. Whenever it changes I broadcast the corresponding Intent which was broadcasted by Samsung so that any applications which work based on that Intent can work even on these ROMs without having to change any of their code.
An interesting thing is that this feature is already present in CyanogenMod i.e S-Pen Power saving mode which disables the s pen touch decoder when the s pen is inserted. I fail to understand why they are not doing the same thing that I am doing through my application and save all of us the trouble.
Phone vibrates when i inserted/detached s-pen, so it works? I have note2 lte (n7105) with latest rootbox nightly.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/eebkzugsm7ek12s/CM S-Pen Addon.apk
Guys this is the beta version of my application which can detect S Pen detection even on CyanogenMod(works for me on JellyBeer Rom).
Please test it out and tell me if it works on your ROM, it mimics the Intent which is broadcast-ed by Samsung when the S Pen is inserted/detached so any applications which use that intent should work fine.
You can use it in conjunction with my application S Pen Helper to mimic page-buddy on CM 10. Here is the playstore link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tushar.spen_helper
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It works well, also Using jellybeer rom. Very good, one thing, how to auto launch a note app? There is the option to launch something, but can't choose what to launch, unless I'm blind.(which could easily be the case)
jnr21 said:
Phone vibrates when i inserted/detached s-pen, so it works? I have note2 lte (n7105) with latest rootbox nightly.
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If it's vibrating means it's working
bungknees said:
It works well, also Using jellybeer rom. Very good, one thing, how to auto launch a note app? There is the option to launch something, but can't choose what to launch, unless I'm blind.(which could easily be the case)
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I had made spen-helper keeping Samsung based ROMs in mind so it selects s note by default but since it's not there on cm10 so it's blank just click below the enable launch toggle will pop up a dialog to change it. I'll fix it in the next version. Also I suggest not to keep the event monitor running in the background as it drains the battery a lot. I'm looking for a method to fix the battery drain currently.
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If it's vibrating means it's working
I had made spen-helper keeping Samsung based ROMs in mind so it selects s note by default but since it's not there on cm10 so it's blank just click below the enable launch toggle will pop up a dialog to change it. I'll fix it in the next version. Also I suggest not to keep the event monitor running in the background as it drains the battery a lot. I'm looking for a method to fix the battery drain currently.
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Ok, thanks for the tip. Great work
Edit: just looked at battery now, and holy crap, yes it does drain it. But good start.
Uploaded to play store and source code to GitHub and also a brief explanation on how it works
v0.2.1 out
-Bug fixes and optimizations
-Changed app version to reflect beta status
app lauch settings
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v0.2.1 out
-Bug fixes and optimizations
-Changed app version to reflect beta status
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Can't see the "app launch settings" you've mentioned. Did you remove it? The batery drain is visible but i think it's not catastrophic. I wonder why the CM team never got around implementing this because they already have the building blocks...
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Can't see the "app launch settings" you've mentioned. Did you remove it? The batery drain is visible but i think it's not catastrophic. I wonder why the CM team never got around implementing this because they already have the building blocks...
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The app launch settings are not there in this application. If you want those features you will have to use this application in conjunction with this.
Regarding the battery drain I fixed it in the last version if you are still having battery drain I would suggest increasing the polling value to 1000 which is responsive enough and not at all taxing on the battery
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The app launch settings are not there in this application. If you want those features you will have to use this application in conjunction with this.
Regarding the battery drain I fixed it in the last version if you are still having battery drain I would suggest increasing the polling value to 1000 which is responsive enough and not at all taxing on the battery
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Thanks for the update. I already use the app you've pointed at - just thought your app could do the same (my bad...). On the battery side i disabled you app and the s pen helper leaving me with "stock" CM10.1 + a bunch of play store downloaded apps. The battery drain is still there so the good news is that your app works as expected - that is not causing any dramatic power consumption. The the bad side... the battery drain is caused by something else. I've installed wakelock doctor and am waiting to see which is the app causing the mentioned battery drain (~4%/hour - roughly 4 times more than usual).
Thanks for your quick support!
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Thanks for the update. I already use the app you've pointed at - just thought your app could do the same (my bad...). On the battery side i disabled you app and the s pen helper leaving me with "stock" CM10.1 + a bunch of play store downloaded apps. The battery drain is still there so the good news is that your app works as expected - that is not causing any dramatic power consumption. The the bad side... the battery drain is caused by something else. I've installed wakelock doctor and am waiting to see which is the app causing the mentioned battery drain (~4%/hour - roughly 4 times more than usual).
Thanks for your quick support!
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The battery drain is a problem in most of the CM based ROMs. I use Sentinel ROM which gives much better battery life than any of the other ROMs I tried. Link is in my signature in case you want to try it out.
tushar9989 said:
The battery drain is a problem in most of the CM based ROMs. I use Sentinel ROM which gives much better battery life than any of the other ROMs I tried. Link is in my signature in case you want to try it out.
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Thanks for pointing out that CM causes battery drain. I've previousely used CM on all my devices (HTC Desire, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Note I & II and Nexus 7) and it turned out to being great. I'll test a bit more and then jump over to Sentinel ROM.
This is a great application...
Many thanks for this huge step forward !!
tushar9989 said:
The battery drain is a problem in most of the CM based ROMs. I use Sentinel ROM which gives much better battery life than any of the other ROMs I tried. Link is in my signature in case you want to try it out.
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I'm using Notes 1, Google Play will not let me download it.
Could you remove the Google Play restrictions?
or maybe just attach the .APK file here in XDA?
Thanks
AllGamer said:
I'm using Notes 1, Google Play will not let me download it.
Could you remove the Google Play restrictions?
or maybe just attach the .APK file here in XDA?
Thanks
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Sorry the Note 1 does not have the sensor for detecting the s pen
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Sorry the Note 1 does not have the sensor for detecting the s pen
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Thanks for the heads up
Issue with the app working reliably on an ASOP ROM
tushar9989 said:
This is an application which allows detection of the S Pen detachment even on AOSP/AOKP/CM based ROMs.
It has only been tested on the Note 2 by me. If it works on your note device please let me know so that I can add it to the list of compatible note devices.
The source code can be found here
The android system automatically adds event files for each input device it detects when being installed. These event files are located in /dev/input/eventX where X denotes a particular device. These event files can be read using native C code for which I use an API provided by Radu Motisan which can be found and also a bit more information about the event files can be found there. So now using this interface I find the event file for the S Pen and then continously read it to see if the value of the S Pen sensor has been changed. Whenever it changes I broadcast the corresponding Intent which was broadcasted by Samsung so that any applications which work based on that Intent can work even on these ROMs without having to change any of their code.
An interesting thing is that this feature is already present in CyanogenMod i.e S-Pen Power saving mode which disables the s pen touch decoder when the s pen is inserted. I fail to understand why they are not doing the same thing that I am doing through my application and save all of us the trouble.
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I want to thank you for your hard work on this application, and the level to which you've gone to enable s-pen support in non-touchwiz ROMs. I just made the jump to Carbon ROM (4.3) this weekend after using my Sprint Note 2 (SPH-L900) with rooted, stock 4.1 since I got it at launch last year. I am totally fed-up with touch-wiz and I am really amazed at the difference the ASOP ROM is making for me.
I installed your app and it seemed to work perfectly for about 20 mins or so, then the next time I pulled out my s-pen it didn't recognize the event. Rebooting didn't make a difference, the only thing that made it work again was uninstalling, and then reinstalling the app. I am really confused as to why it stops working. I've checked, and both background services are still active, not cached, and the main program shows as running in my application manager. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions?
I can't paste links into XDA as I don't contribute all that often, but if you want to check out more on Carbon ROM I read about it on galaxynote2root, listed under the recent posts. The ROM is extremely stable and I'm very baffled as to why it isn't cooperating with your app! Thanks!
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I want to thank you for your hard work on this application, and the level to which you've gone to enable s-pen support in non-touchwiz ROMs. I just made the jump to Carbon ROM (4.3) this weekend after using my Sprint Note 2 (SPH-L900) with rooted, stock 4.1 since I got it at launch last year. I am totally fed-up with touch-wiz and I am really amazed at the difference the ASOP ROM is making for me.
I installed your app and it seemed to work perfectly for about 20 mins or so, then the next time I pulled out my s-pen it didn't recognize the event. Rebooting didn't make a difference, the only thing that made it work again was uninstalling, and then reinstalling the app. I am really confused as to why it stops working. I've checked, and both background services are still active, not cached, and the main program shows as running in my application manager. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions?
I can't paste links into XDA as I don't contribute all that often, but if you want to check out more on Carbon ROM I read about it on galaxynote2root, listed under the recent posts. The ROM is extremely stable and I'm very baffled as to why it isn't cooperating with your app! Thanks!
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I think that is happening because you have screen off detection disabled and you are locking the phone before re inserting the s pen. If that happens again you can try inserting the pen then enabling and disabling the detection from the application's settings.
Running unofficial cm11 4.4 Kit Kat and on ART. Any chance of support in the future?
Dwnhiller said:
Running unofficial cm11 4.4 Kit Kat and on ART. Any chance of support in the future?
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Have you tried using it? Because some users said it works on CM 11.
Hey,
When I had JB i intalled a modded build.prop from a user here, and I got extremely good results. Now I changed to CM11 with my Xperia Sola and I noticed how my battery wasn't as good as before... Is there any solution to improve my battery with Xposed modules, apps, or anything else? I know that you shouldn't be running apps in the background etc.
DatJoe said:
Hey,
When I had JB i intalled a modded build.prop from a user here, and I got extremely good results. Now I changed to CM11 with my Xperia Sola and I noticed how my battery wasn't as good as before... Is there any solution to improve my battery with Xposed modules, apps, or anything else? I know that you shouldn't be running apps in the background etc.
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Use Greenify ..Should help...
neoavi7 said:
Use Greenify ..Should help...
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Already using...
It's really hard to just make a blanket statement like, "Yea, this mod/tweak/app/etc will definitely help you get battery life." If it were, then so many people wouldn't be on here looking for solutions. No 2 phones are gonna get the same kind of battery life for a ton of different reasons. Sometimes it's the kernel, sometimes it's apps that sync too much, sometimes location services get out of hand, sometimes the radio version doesn't mix well with the update you are on or the area you are in, maybe some 3rd party apps don't play nice with others, and so on and so forth. Best thing to do is run some apps that might help pinpoint what is keeping the phone awake (wakelocks). Better Battery Stats http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 , Wakelock Detector http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179651 , GSAM Battery Monitor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en or something along those lines. Once you figure out what is causing it, then you can start to look for solutions. Good luck!
Look in the link below to consolidate. Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/app-potential-bloat-safe-to-freeze-t3161615/post61958829#post61958829
thread pinned..interesting will look tomorrow evening again..will sleep now
Sounds good
Look at the link in the first post to see what I have running.
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I did it's really awesome, I thank you. It's a tad hard to determine exactly what was disabled as you were unable to provided a list and I'm unable to piece together all the posts as to what truly was uninstalled/disabled here is what I have always running at the moment. Any advice?. Is it safe to say everything that's running here and not in your screenshot is safe to disable?.
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Yes, but if you disable the Catch people than I believe your Edge feature will not work. I don't use it but if you do keep it. Also if you don't use the factory email client you can safely disable that as well and not have any email issues if you use other clients.
What carrier are you on? If you reboot and have just those loading on startup you should be near 1.5GB. Now there may be events which trigger apps to run behind the scenes and there are apps to let you see what is running at startup and give you the ability to change their behavior based on specific events, however I'm not sure if those programs really work as advertised for modifying the app behavior. Tmobile users have had all kinds of memory management issues, there are mods you can make to modify the memory management aggressiveness but I have not found a need to make those changes, also with 5.11 it looks like they made it even more aggressive but again on boot up you should be closer to 1-1.5GB free RAM.
I have a Pixel 2 XL with Android 9 Pie. I'm wondering is there still a benefit to using Greenify with all the battery management functionality built into 9?
Thanks,
Rick
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I have a Pixel 2 XL with Android 9 Pie. I'm wondering is there still a benefit to using Greenify with all the battery management functionality built into 9?
Thanks,
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My personal recommendation is 'no'. Usually it is recommended when you have some app which runs riot in the background and there is no other way to control it. I find the implementation of Doze in Pie to be impressive and my suit of apps don't have any misbehaving app.
Thanks for the reply. Is the best way to check for rogue apps to just check the battery usage stats in settings?
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Thanks for the reply. Is the best way to check for rogue apps to just check the battery usage stats in settings?
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It is one of the ways to check for the actors in the drain scenario. A deeper analysis will require something like BetterBatteryStats from PlayStore.
I have an issue on pie if i wake up my device after 2 to 3 hrs it works like snail until i reboot my device. I dont think its memory issue as the ram us 4gb onboard and after wakup i checked it was around 1.8gb free. Please provide workaround.
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papuruth said:
Please provide workaround.
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Workaround: don't use Greenify; problem solved.
papuruth said:
I have an issue on pie if i wake up my device after 2 to 3 hrs it works like snail until i reboot my device. I dont think its memory issue as the ram us 4gb onboard and after wakup i checked it was around 1.8gb free. Please provide workaround.
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If you read the posts above yours, you will understand the comment of Davey126. Already Doze is near perfect in Pie and adding Greenify to the pot and further restricting apps through it, is likely to cause the behaviour that you are complaining of.
If you must still use Greenify, reduce the number of apps controlled by it to the minimum (only those definitely identified as rogues).
I stopped installing Greenify in 8.1, theres literally no point the memory management has evolved to a point now where its just adding complexity/cycles and RAM usage and acting in the reverse of your best interests - the opposite of what it used to do.
It was great in the past, but now its surplus to demands
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I stopped installing Greenify in 8.1, theres literally no point the memory management has evolved to a point now where its just adding complexity/cycles and RAM usage and acting in the reverse of your best interests - the opposite of what it used to do.
It was great in the past, but now its surplus to demands
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While I concur with most of your statements (including adding potentially unnecessary complexity) I have yet to experience significant resource loading attributable to Greenify. It resides on most my gizmos and serves as an overt check on apps that remain within the bounds of doze but exhibit behaviors that I find undesirable and/or consume unwanted cycles. The offenses are far more reserved than in the past but still annoying. That said, Greenify is clearly not needed on the vast majority of consumer devices running Android 7+.
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While I concur with most of your statements (including adding potentially unnecessary complexity) I have yet to experience significant resource loading attributable to Greenify. It resides on most my gizmos and serves as an overt check on apps that remain within the bounds of doze but exhibit behaviors that I find undesirable and/or consume unwanted cycles. The offenses are far more reserved than in the past but still annoying. That said, Greenify is clearly not needed on the vast majority of consumer devices running Android 7+.
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i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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Yep - it's a tool that can still yield tangible benefits if used judiciously. Xposed extensions increase potency and sidesteps battery optimization woes. When Xposed isn't an option Greenify still works fine with simple adjustments. That said, I fully agree it is not needed on most modern devices/ROMs.
It's definitely useful in some cases. Instagram is one of those apps that bypass Android battery controls. I have battery optimization on, background data off, battery restriction on, and background check off (in developer options) and it still runs in the background. Even regular hibernation doesn't work. I have to use Island and Greenify to freeze it on screen off.
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i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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Same with me. Greenify is my first buy
I use greenify widget "sleep and hibernate now" to turn my screen off.
Is there any other apps that can substitute greenify for that purpose?
I like screen off method of greenify because when we turn on the screen, we can use fingerprint (as far as i know other screen off apps must use pin/pattern to turn the screen on)
if no greenify what about the feature that shows all google sync in the accounts section? greenify unhides them and allows you to turn them all off, on stock android they hidden and kept on.
Is there an alternate way to unhide them?
chrcol said:
if no greenify what about the feature that shows all google sync in the accounts section? greenify unhides them and allows you to turn them all off, on stock android they hidden and kept on.
Is there an alternate way to unhide them?
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Interesting, I didn't even know Greenify did that. Would also be curious to know this.
Hey!
I've been using this application for a very long time now but I'm just interested into knowing a couple of things like what couple of options mean in practice.
Of course the best way would be to try them yourself but I have over 400 application so I guess it wouldn't really be that easy so that's the reason why I'm asking. I have just realized that there is an option to ignore the running state and I see that it has improved my phone's performance for like 50% for sure.
What do other options do like disabling long running service or hibernation mode?
I can tell you that I don't really care about anything else other than performance so should be fine for me to enable these options for every single application?
Thank you for reading!
What device and OS? Rooted, custom rom?
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What device and OS? Rooted, custom rom?
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S9 Plus running Noble ROM on Android 11.
hey,
well im not familiar with that ROM but right off the bat, u should see some performance improvements by using an "app manager" or "auto start" manager to curb the ram used by autostarting apps on your phone which sounds like the option ur describing, perhaps a tweak on ur cus rom. Next i would use something like Greenify with root access to hibernate or kill both user and some system apps that kill alot of battery and memory.
Using a global adblocking app on a rooted phone maybe another good idea and u can check out some posts on playing with your "host file"...
if ur die hard performance junkie...u can look into swapping kernels and such if its available. If you get into overclocking always watch your temp. Also all this is a very good way to brick ur phone or cause hardware failure, be careful, be warned, read lots, do once.
Hope this helps a lil bit atleast...
What about cutting " wakeup paths"?
I see they can make problem sometimes. I have ended up in bootloop couple of times so I just wanted to see what does this option do in practice? Will the change be written in data or system partition?