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Hey guys
I've never modded my phone at all when it comes to custom ROM's, etc. My friend told me today that he flashed a CM9 ICS nightly build and it sparked some interest in me.
I read that to get the CM9 ROM you need to have CWM installed on your phone. Is that necessary? If so, why?
I also read that it will void my phones warranty if I install CWM...now obviously nothing is "suppose" to go wrong with the phone while doing this process and I heard that if the phone is soft bricked it can be recovered with nvflash (is this true?).
Finally, is there anything stopping me from flashing a stock bootloader (is that what CWM is?) onto the phone and then a stock ROM, allowing me to do a return on the phone without them knowing?
I'm completely new to this and this whole forum is so confusing and the only real easy instructions I found were on the CM9 site.
Thanks guys,
Elliott
EDIT: I also just saw on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uK-k3KfY5c
He used some sort of USB dongle at the end for something...what did it do?
Everything you need and more in the relevant thread. With such basic questions and the apparent lack of ability to search, read and digest information, you would be wiser to stick to stock, official ROMs though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly. I am more interested in the warranty issues with doing this...and if it's possible to comletely revert everything to the point where they can't tell what was done with the phone...I have searched around.
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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peachpuff said:
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
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Well I'm not planning on the phone having any issues...but you never know what could happen...When I first got my SGS2 the home button stopped working within 24 hours and I had to go back and get another one...
I'm just saying anything could happen...ex: buttons breaking, etc.
aceofclubs said:
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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Hey thanks for posting.
So you're saying that if I flash CWM, and then need to return the phone for whatever reason, I can install the original Samsung recovery tool that was there prior to installing CWM? Is that what you mean by "a simple flash of the older one..."?
Basically, if I ever need to return the phone, can I make it reset 100% original so that even if they knew how to check for stuff like CM9 and CWM, they wouldn't be able to find out that it was ever installed?
And when Samsung releases their official firmware and I decide I want to flash to that one, can I still use it? I'm guessing I could just flash it normally using CWM, but what if I wanted to go back to 100% original and update from there?
Starholdest said:
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly.
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Well that kind of attitude just irks me.
Unless I lack the ability to count, you asked a total of five questions, all of which are answered in that thread and countless others around this forum.
Anyway, your apparent main concern has to do with wanting to commit fraud. If you're okay with that, keep going. I guess since you're happy to break forum rules (rule #1), why not try and fudge a warranty claim?
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working.
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What if I have the updated bootloader?
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
UGKG2: http://www.multiupload.com/WHKOJ8A5FG
Firmware info: PDA: UGKG2 Phone: UGKG2 CSC: BMCKG2
UGKG2 Stock Kernel:http://www.multiupload.com/43QUKBBK47
Password is: [email protected]
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What's the difference between the two?
The first link has the entire rom, the 2nd has just the kernel. However...
These links have been dead for a while now, so you'll need to head over to Samfirmware.com & search for the firmware you need. Follow whatever instructions they have for flashing firmware downloaded from their site.
Starholdest said:
Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
What's the difference between the two?
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing? Is kernel just another word for bootloader? I looked up the terms briefly...
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
The rom has stuff like themes, fonts, and other stuff (nuts & bolts) the kernel is like the engine (controls stuff like WiFi, controls everything you can do as root, etc). The package containing the whole rom also has the kernel in it.
No idea. Do a Google search. Alternatively, you can get the latest firmware available for your country/carrier (which may or may not be the same as the one you're looking for, depending on whether the carrier has updated firmware since the one you're looking for was released) with the PC version of Checkfus (do a search for it on here Google).
Edit to add - A better analogy for rom/kernel. Think of your phone as a car. The kernel is the engine, the rom is everything else/the car itself.
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing?
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
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Bootloader etc.
Starholdest said:
Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
What if I have the updated bootloader?
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I think everyone has cleared everything else for you, so I'll talk about the jig! Firstly you most likely have the new bootloader so your flash counter will still be on, therefore your warranty will still be void. LUCKILY there's an app called TriangleAway (made my Chainfire) which you can find with a simple search, this will let you reset your flash counter and get rid of the yellow triangle as long as you're running a rooted ICS ROM (like CM9) and you can then flash back to stock and all traces of any root will be gone. There is a warning that the app can brick your phone but through my many uses of it, it has never happened and no-one has reported any brick.
Cool thanks for your help!
Hey guys I need to return my phone to be fixed, but have a slight problem. The firmware is all stock except for when it boots up it says it is a GT-I9100. This is left from a previous flash that I did, but I went back to stock and never bothered to fix that, because it didn't really bug me. Now my phone won't recognize a charger or any usb plugs. My question is will Samsung/AT&T still accept my phone for replacement with this? If not is there anyway I can fix the boot screen without plugging my phone in? Thanks guys sorry for the noob question, but I am not really sure what to do and this is kind of a specific problem, so I couldn't find anything in the search. Once again really appreciate any help!
Play dumb and say it's always said that you didn't know the model number of your phone was a 727 lol
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Play dumb and say it's always said that you didn't know the model number of your phone was a 727 lol
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777 you mean? This isn't the skyrocket forums
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Play dumb and say it's always said that you didn't know the model number of your phone was a 727 lol
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No, don't do that.
You can either use Mobile Odin to remove it, or do a complete Return to Stock using Odin.
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No, don't do that.
You can either use Mobile Odin to remove it, or do a complete Return to Stock using Odin.
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Can I use Mobile Odin with a stock firmware? Seems like you shouldn't be able to flash your phone from your device.
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Can I use Mobile Odin with a stock firmware? Seems like you shouldn't be able to flash your phone from your device.
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You're absolutely right. For some reason I thought you were stock rooted...my mistake. Use my second option then.
As long as you root it, you can use Mobile Odin. Not like it matters anyway, you just need to get rid of the GT-I9100 and then flash back to stock again, thus eliminating root.
Did Odin one-click back to stock not work for you? Because it sounds like you might have flashed I9100 bootloaders and flashing I777 bootloaders should fix it (which if I'm not mkstaken, the one click does include). Someone correct me on both points if I'm wrong , I'm simply conjecturing.
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It would be great if I could just flash the bootloaders, but I can't connect my phone to my computer
Some folks have reported that they could get their phone to connect via usb after cleaning the usb port with alcohol. Have you tried that?
Can you get into dl mode?
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creepyncrawly said:
Some folks have reported that they could get their phone to connect via usb after cleaning the usb port with alcohol. Have you tried that?
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Yea I tried this, didn't work. I could probably get it into download mode, if I borrowed someones battery, but I am not sure why that matters if the computer won't detect it.
I finally got my phone to connect after cleaning it for like an hour, I just have to hold it at a certain angle. Everytime I try and flash the bootloader I get a fail though, I am using odin 1.8.5 and the bootloader here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199. After it fails I have to reflash using the one click no bootloader here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199. Is there any one click with the stock bootloaders someone could please link me to? Thanks once again guys
Both links appear to be the same.
Anyway, why would you flash the bootloader?
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Both links appear to be the same.
Anyway, why would you flash the bootloader?
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That was my suggestion, I thought it might be an I9100 bootloader that he flashed which causes the GT-I 9100 to show up on boot, and he wants it back at stock for returning. Again I could be wrong, and of course flashing bootloaders is very dangerous, especially with your faulty USB connection (I didn't know it was faulty when I posted before).
EDIT: Did you ever try rooting so you can go the Mobile Odin route (which would be much safer)?
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karate104 said:
That was my suggestion, I thought it might be an I9100 bootloader that he flashed which causes the GT-I 9100 to show up on boot, and he wants it back at stock for returning. Again I could be wrong, and of course flashing bootloaders is very dangerous, especially with your faulty USB connection (I didn't know it was faulty when I posted before).
EDIT: Did you ever try rooting so you can go the Mobile Odin route (which would be much safer)?
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No I never tried that, would you recommend that? This is the screen I get when it boots http://img2.garfield.in/images/garfield/logoold_350x583.jpg, but my phone is a sgh-I777. That means it is the wrong bootloader right? Or am I misunderstanding something? Feel so useless haha, thanks guys.
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Both links appear to be the same.
Anyway, why would you flash the bootloader?
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Meant to post this for bootloader link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20229527&postcount=46, and I want to get it back to the stock loader so I can send it in for repair.
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No I never tried that, would you recommend that? This is the screen I get when it boots http://img2.garfield.in/images/garfield/logoold_350x583.jpg, but my phone is a sgh-I777. That means it is the wrong bootloader right? Or am I misunderstanding something? Feel so useless haha, thanks guys.
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I know that's the screen you're referring to, bootloader is just my random guess.
mattdm said:
No, don't do that.
You can either use Mobile Odin to remove it, or do a complete Return to Stock using Odin.
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Since your USB connection is buggy, and since flashing bootloaders is really dangerous anyway, I'd try this instead. If it doesn't help, let us know.
EDIT: what does your flash counter say when you boot in to download mode?
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what does your flash counter say when you boot in to download mode?
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This first, please. This will tell you which bootloader you currently have.
If the usb connection is lost while the bootloader is flashing, the phone will hard brik, and will require jtag repair to recover, which costs about $50 to $60. Therefore, it is necessary to know what the phone status really is before taking that risk.
If you determine that you really do have the I9100 secondary bootloader, then you put the I777 UCKH7 sbl.tar in the PDA slot of Odin3 v1.85. Or you could flash the I777UCKH7-CL503881 FULL Odin3 One-click Downloader which includes the param.lfs and the secondary bootloader.
Mobile Odin will not flash bootloaders or param.lfs
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This first, please. This will tell you which bootloader you currently have.
If the usb connection is lost while the bootloader is flashing, the phone will hard brik, and will require jtag repair to recover, which costs about $50 to $60. Therefore, it is necessary to know what the phone status really is before taking that risk.
If you determine that you really do have the I9100 secondary bootloader, then you put the I777 UCKH7 sbl.tar in the PDA slot of Odin3 v1.85. Or you could flash the I777UCKH7-CL503881 FULL Odin3 One-click Downloader which includes the param.lfs and the secondary bootloader.
Mobile Odin will not flash bootloaders or param.lfs
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Where can I get the full one click? On the download custom binary: no. Samsung official. Model: GT-I9100. Thanks
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Where can I get the full one click? On the download custom binary: no. Samsung official. Model: GT-I9100. Thanks
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Huzzah, I guessed right! You flashed I9100 secondary bootloaders.
Read this thread (I suggest reading the OP closely), paying special attention to 3) Special Problems. The downloads you need are here.
karate104 said:
Huzzah, I guessed right! You flashed I9100 secondary bootloaders.
Read this thread (I suggest reading the OP closely), paying special attention to 3) Special Problems. The downloads you need are here.
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Whenever I try to do this with odin it fails . I think I just need the one click with bootloaders, but I can't find it.
Alright, so I had attempted to root my new AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH - i777 and succeeded, but had flashed an incorrect kernel so my phone is acting very strange. I can still use the phone and everything, but it will not let me get into download mode so that I can use ODIN to fix my phone completely with no errors. Then, I was thinking if I tried using this option in SuperSU which allowed me to unroot my phone, then maybe it'd fix the phone itself and correct the kernel. So now, I am stuck with an unrooted phone and cannot root it again because I cannot access download mode. I do have CWM, but I also ran into problems with that not being able to flash ANYTHING off my SD Card. Could someone please give some tips or tricks I could use to fix this?
p.s. I read somewhere about something relating to a jig? I am still relatively new to all of this so I don't know how I'd go with doing that without proper instruction.
jbrownprod said:
Alright, so I had attempted to root my new AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH - i777 and succeeded, but had flashed an incorrect kernel so my phone is acting very strange. I can still use the phone and everything, but it will not let me get into download mode so that I can use ODIN to fix my phone completely with no errors. Then, I was thinking if I tried using this option in SuperSU which allowed me to unroot my phone, then maybe it'd fix the phone itself and correct the kernel. So now, I am stuck with an unrooted phone and cannot root it again because I cannot access download mode. I do have CWM, but I also ran into problems with that not being able to flash ANYTHING off my SD Card. Could someone please give some tips or tricks I could use to fix this?
p.s. I read somewhere about something relating to a jig? I am still relatively new to all of this so I don't know how I'd go with doing that without proper instruction.
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Search and you will find the answer about a jig as for your issue, have you tried flashing a different kernel
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Nick281051 said:
Search and you will find the answer about a jig as for your issue, have you tried flashing a different kernel
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How would I flash a different kernel? I can't do it through odin and I'm pretty sure CWM won't flash kernels. Plus, I'm not rooted anymore. So I'm not sure how I'd pull that one off.
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How would I flash a different kernel? I can't do it through odin and I'm pretty sure CWM won't flash kernels. Plus, I'm not rooted anymore. So I'm not sure how I'd pull that one off.
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Thought you were still rooted, if you were you could use mobile odin
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Thought you were still rooted, if you were you could use mobile odin
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Yeah because I ran into mobile odin after I found away to remove the root, hoping it would fix my phone. But that's where I kind of messed myself up. Would a jig be the only solution? Or is there another possible way? Could I do something through CWM?
EDIT: I cannot access CWM in any way since I am no longer rooted. I really screwed myself.
I understand that you are a little inexperienced, and I mean no disrespect, but what you are describing makes little or no sense. First do you have a Galaxy S2 I777? Next, what exactly are you doing to try to get into download mode? Next, how are you trying to access clockworkmod? Please be specific, and I hope you can get back to the conversation fairly soon, because I need to go to bed pretty soon. If not, I'll be here in the morning.
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I understand that you are a little inexperienced, and I mean no disrespect, but what you are describing makes little or no sense. First do you have a Galaxy S2 I777? Next, what exactly are you doing to try to get into download mode? Next, how are you trying to access clockworkmod? Please be specific, and I hope you can get back to the conversation fairly soon, because I need to go to bed pretty soon. If not, I'll be here in the morning.
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Well first off, to get into download mode I tried holding down both Vol. Up + Down and then plugging in the USB (with ODIN already up and running). Also, the phone was completely off when I do this. No matter how many times I try, which has been at least 30 times, it never works. also, I cannot acces CWM since I am no longer rooted, because I saw an option in an app called SuperSU that unroots your phone, but I had assumed that it would fix my problem. Apparently not.
No need to repeat yourself.
I've never heard of an I777 phone still able to boot and not able to enter download mode using the method you describe, unless somehow a secondary bootloader from another phone, say the I9100, got flashed onto it. Is there any possibility that the SuperSU flashed bootloader? Was that flashed in Odin? More details please.
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No need to repeat yourself.
I've never heard of an I777 phone still able to boot and not able to enter download mode using the method you describe, unless somehow a secondary bootloader from another phone, say the I9100, got flashed onto it. Is there any possibility that the SuperSU flashed bootloader? Was that flashed in Odin? More details please.
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Sorry, I should've made that part a bit clear. Yes, I am pretty sure I originally made a mistake of flashing the i9100 instead of i777. I went too fast into the process thinking I would know what to do, since I managed to root and install custom ROMs onto my old HTC Inspire 4G and my girlfriend's HTC Evo 4G. I realized HTC and Samsung are completely different, any phone at that, and I should be cautious from now on. And yes, I haven't seen a case like mine. My phone works fully functionally, I just cannot access download mode and since I am not rooted anymore, no longer have access to CWM. By the way, Im trying to get back to you as quick as possible so I can at least get a start by tonight before I myself goes to bed as well. ;P
OK. Looked up SuperSU app by chainfire. chainfire is a developer in the I9100 section. I don't see anything on his OP for the app that says it can be run on the I777. Didn't read in depth though. Need to take some time to study it to see exactly what it does. But on first look, it seems it could be involved in your problem.
Your phone can be recovered, but we have to know exactly what has happened to it in order to correct things.
Can you get into recovery mode using three buttons? vol+ vol- and Pwr.
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OK. Looked up SuperSU app by chainfire. chainfire is a developer in the I9100 section. I don't see anything on his OP for the app that says it can be run on the I777. Didn't read in depth though. Need to take some time to study it to see exactly what it does. But on first look, it seems it could be involved in your problem.
Your phone can be recovered, but we have to know exactly what has happened to it in order to correct things.
Can you get into recovery mode using three buttons? vol+ vol- and Pwr.
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Damn, I had sworn it said i777, because ever since I originally tried fixing all of this, I look out for i777 or not just to make sure I'm fooling with the right apps or kernels. And no, recovery mode won't work. Holding those buttons turns my phone off, with and without the USB cable plugged in. If I do it while the phone is off, it just boots up normally.
OK. You almost certainly have I9100 secondary bootloader, which governs button combination for download mode and recovery mode. I'm not sure if you can duplicate the I-9100 button combo on the I777, since in includes the hard home button which we don't have. You could maybe google it and see what you can find.
The other way to get into download mode that will work is a usb jig. Do you own one? If not, you can buy or make one. Buying one may delay fixing your phone by a few days. If you are handy, there are instructions for making a jig available by googling. Some links in one of my guides, too.
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No, now that you say you flashed I9100 firmware, it probably means that SuperSU wasn't the problem. Doesn't matter now anyway. Just need to get your phone into download mode and flash back the full I777UCKH7 package including bootloaders that you can download from the Download Repository (link in my signature).
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I think I'll head for bed. It's after midnight here. I'll check back in the morning to see if you need any additional help.
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OK. You almost certainly have I9100 secondary bootloader, which governs button combination for download mode and recovery mode. I'm not sure if you can duplicate the I-9100 button combo on the I777, since in includes the hard home button which we don't have. You could maybe google it and see what you can find.
The other way to get into download mode that will work is a usb jig. Do you own one? If not, you can buy or make one. Buying one may delay fixing your phone by a few days. If you are handy, there are instructions for making a jig available by googling. Some links in one of my guides, too.
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No, now that you say you flashed I9100 firmware, it probably means that SuperSU wasn't the problem. Doesn't matter now anyway. Just need to get your phone into download mode and flash back the full I777UCKH7 package including bootloaders that you can download from the Download Repository (link in my signature).
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I think I'll head for bed. It's after midnight here. I'll check back in the morning to see if you need any additional help.
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Alright, thanks for all the extra info. It really helped. My problem may not be fixed, but I even assumed I would need a jig. I guess I'll just order one online. Afterall, my phone still works. It is just bugged in an awkward way and I'd really love to root it, so I don't mind waiting a few days to get it going. Also, any recommendations on ROMs/kernels that I could maybe look into after all these problems are solved? Anyways, Thanks for everything!
EDIT: Also, whenever I get the jig, should I flash the bootloader or the stock kernel first? And another question, after this mess is fixed, is it okay to use a ICS ROM with a Gingerbread kernel and vice versa? Or should I find some guide about that? Lastly, I looked at the kernel that you were using out of curiosity and was wondering if TouchWiz or AOSP is better overall?.. I apologize for the explosion of questions, just so curious about all of this and want to know as much as I can.
Adb reboot download
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Well I feel very stupid now. I have it all working, every last thing. I still plan on getting a jig to wipe the counter from the previous installations, but besides that, everything is perfect at this point. When I had originally tried adb I couldn't understand how to install it because it said there wasn't an adb directory, but I figured it all out. Thanks to both of you for the help. You guys are amazing!
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Also, whenever I get the jig, should I flash the bootloader or the stock kernel first? And another question, after this mess is fixed, is it okay to use a ICS ROM with a Gingerbread kernel and vice versa? Or should I find some guide about that? Lastly, I looked at the kernel that you were using out of curiosity and was wondering if TouchWiz or AOSP is better overall?.. I apologize for the explosion of questions, just so curious about all of this and want to know as much as I can.
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Well I feel very stupid now. I have it all working, every last thing. I still plan on getting a jig to wipe the counter from the previous installations, but besides that, everything is perfect at this point. When I had originally tried adb I couldn't understand how to install it because it said there wasn't an adb directory, but I figured it all out. Thanks to both of you for the help. You guys are amazing!
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I see you've already recovered the phone. I suggested that you flash the stock I777UCKH7 full distribution, which is under the heading I777UCKH7-CL503881 Stock Binaries in the Download Repository. That contains the bootloaders and everything else all in one package. I was then going to suggest that you follow my guide How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash counter!! to root and install your custom rom.
For your other questions: You must have a Gingerbread kernel with Gingerbread and an ICS kernel with ICS. As far as what to flash onto your phone, that is a personal decision, and rom comparison threads get closed in this forum, and pretty much throughout xda. I like the rom I am currently using. It is an I9100 base modified for the I777 and uses the Apex launcher (not touchwiz). It comes with CherryPicker kernel, but even though I havn't changed my signature, I recently flashed Siyah kernel so that I can double boot AOKP and my regular rom. AOSP/AOKP roms are much closer to a straight Android experience. I'm just now trying it out for the first time. You just have to put something on your phone and try it out to see if you like it. If not, try something else.
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I see you've already recovered the phone. I suggested that you flash the stock I777UCKH7 full distribution, which is under the heading I777UCKH7-CL503881 Stock Binaries in the Download Repository. That contains the bootloaders and everything else all in one package. I was then going to suggest that you follow my guide How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash counter!! to root and install your custom rom.
For your other questions: You must have a Gingerbread kernel with Gingerbread and an ICS kernel with ICS. As far as what to flash onto your phone, that is a personal decision, and rom comparison threads get closed in this forum, and pretty much throughout xda. I like the rom I am currently using. It is an I9100 base modified for the I777 and uses the Apex launcher (not touchwiz). It comes with CherryPicker kernel, but even though I havn't changed my signature, I recently flashed Siyah kernel so that I can double boot AOKP and my regular rom. AOSP/AOKP roms are much closer to a straight Android experience. I'm just now trying it out for the first time. You just have to put something on your phone and try it out to see if you like it. If not, try something else.
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I did follow your guide to doing it without incrementing the counter and now it works flawlessly. And I decided to test the ROM you were using and it is fabulous. Even though I do agree, Siyah is a better kernel. But isnt Siyah a Gingerbread kernel?
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jbrownprod said:
I did follow your guide to doing it without incrementing the counter and now it works flawlessly. And I decided to test the ROM you were using and it is fabulous. Even though I do agree, Siyah is a better kernel. But isnt Siyah a Gingerbread kernel?
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Check the development forum and you will find ics siyah
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brandonarev said:
Check the development forum and you will find ics siyah
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Thank you.
EDIT: Actually, would you mind sending me a link? I would love to not accidently run into the wrong files again. XP
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jbrownprod said:
Thank you.
EDIT: Actually, would you mind sending me a link? I would love to not accidently run into the wrong files again. XP
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Just look in the dev section
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I was using Samsgung Galaxy SIII Toolkit v1.0 to root my (Sprint) device ( didn't realize v2.0 was out ) and at step 9 when the device was supposed to reboot on its own it just turned off and did not reboot. When I try to boot it I get a quick flash of SAMSUNG and then it turns off. I am able to boot into Download mode. USB Debugging is not enabled.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you.
Update:
I tried downloading a few different versions of the toolkit, and they all seem to check for USB DEBUGGING before starting the rooting process. I'm not sure which version I had downloaded initially (just that it was v1.0) where it didn't... But that part of the process had a NOTE saying to turn it on, restart the phone and plug it back in to continue...
I also tried booting into recovery mode and factory resetting - no dice.
You're in the section of the international phone, not the US-version.
Most probably something went wrong with replacing the kernel, flash your RAM through Odin again and it should boot fine.
Just use CF-root (or whichever kernel applies to the US-version) through Odin instead of using these tools. People always recommend them and I'd had to revive my fair share of devices which were softbricked (that's what your device is) through their usage.
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You're in the section of the international phone, not the US-version.
Most probably something went wrong with replacing the kernel, flash your RAM through Odin again and it should boot fine.
Just use CF-root (or whichever kernel applies to the US-version) through Odin instead of using these tools. People always recommend them and I'd had to revive my fair share of devices which were softbricked (that's what your device is) through their usage.
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This. Don't trust toolkits. Do yourself a favour and take time to learn how to use adb and on this phone, Odin, properly. It's unfortunate you had to learn why many people are against toolkits the hard way but if you follow the above advice and use Odin to flash a factory Rom for your phone all shall be well.
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This. Don't trust toolkits. Do yourself a favour and take time to learn how to use adb and on this phone, Odin, properly. It's unfortunate you had to learn why many people are against toolkits the hard way but if you follow the above advice and use Odin to flash a factory Rom for your phone all shall be well.
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Mm.. I'm trying an Odin approach now. Initially I tried a Heimdall approach, but it kept failing. :\
Thanks for the response.
Odin and Heimdall both do the same stuff; they use the Samsung firmware update mode to push the device's firmware.
Download your ROM off samfirmware.com if you can't revive it through a simple kernel flash.
You might have to factory-reset your phone tough, hopefully not.
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Odin and Heimdall both do the same stuff; they use the Samsung firmware update mode to push the device's firmware.
Download your ROM off samfirmware.com if you can't revive it through a simple kernel flash.
You might have to factory-reset your phone tough, hopefully not.
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I am currently writing a stock ROM to my phona via Odin. Once I'm back to stock I'll start messing around with it again. I just like touching base after I screw things up, if that makes sense.
I only bought the phone a few days ago so there's not much going on to lose, and I did do a full backup, so I'm not concerned. I already did a reset anyway when I first broke it.
I appreciate your help, and do now see that I'm in the wrong forum. In the future I'll post in the correct forum. Sorry again. Very embarrassing.
Thanks.
I just like touching base after I screw things up, if that makes sense.
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Yep. That's how (and most other people learn their stuff. Learning by breaking (and after having gained some knowledge, fixing)
Sorry again. Very embarrassing.
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It's more a problem for you than for us. If you were to flash a linked zip without really taking care you could hard-softbrick (only revivable through USB-Jig) or possibly hardbrick (only revivable through JTAG) your phone so it's best to stick in the correct section with the correct files =)
Hey guys!
I need a little help, I want to hardbrick my phone(for warranty purposes since i have some issues...last owner overclocked it like hell... )
I actually have a plan to do it:
I am running a 4.1.1 JB rom and Siyah kernel...
so first I am going to reset the phone to its factory state(flash stock rom, kernel ect.).. and now here's where I need help..
I need a method to brick it, that is undetectable that I've done any changes to it...in one word, hardbrick not to boot up and stuff!
Thanks!
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, I'm reading the forums for a long time, but this is my first post on it!
I once went into CWM, mounts and storage and formatted everything... Worked for me. Well if by worked you mean hard bricked
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DPluss said:
Hey guys!
I need a little help, I want to hardbrick my phone(for warranty purposes since i have some issues...last owner overclocked it like hell... )
I actually have a plan to do it:
I am running a 4.1.1 JB rom and Siyah kernel...
so first I am going to reset the phone to its factory state(flash stock rom, kernel ect.).. and now here's where I need help..
I need a method to brick it, that is undetectable that I've done any changes to it...in one word, hardbrick not to boot up and stuff!
Thanks!
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section, I'm reading the forums for a long time, but this is my first post on it!
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Easy, flash a stock 4.0.4 firmware and keep it on stock kernel.
then just boot into recovery and start wiping everything.
Dont know if this is undetectable though
Moving to Q&A, please post all future questions there.
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The-Hulk
Poroto said:
Easy, flash a stock 4.0.4 firmware and keep it on stock kernel.
then just boot into recovery and start wiping everything.
Dont know if this is undetectable though
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But if I reflash the stock kernel, it will flash the stock recovery, or not?
The stock recovery has wiping options too?
I had a little research on other bricking topics(other phone brands) throught xda and most peoples advice was to flash corrupted files through Odin,
like a boot.img or a corrupted update.zip to prevent the phone from even getting into download mode, making it an excelent paperweight I think that is fully undetectable sinc they cant do anything with it, and I can then tell that it will not boot up, I did nothing to it, tested with another battery, never fell, never got liquid, it was in a case, it has not even a scratch on it I would not do this if it wasn't necessary...I'ts always overheating like hell(I really tried everything to prevent that), even on charger, this is my second battery, my touchcreen response is poor, the bottom buttons are also laggy...I just want replacement before it's too late...It might hold up longer but my warranty expires on 31. Oct.
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I would try using a firmware not meant for your phone and pull the plug out half way through flashing it with odin.
Then hope it gets hot around the camera and wont come on.....lol
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Let's be reasonable here.
1. If you are not the first owner of the phone, then you might not be lucky with warranty service.
2. What are the issues you are facing? Can you list them?
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umm.. i'm the second owner, of course first, i will go and see my provider, and ask them about the warranty(will not bring the phone in first lol)!
Basicly the warranty sheet has no personal information, just the phone type, the IMEI, and the date when the other bought it!
The issues are, serious overheating around the camera area...it can never be interrupted, if the phone is on, it keeps overheating after about half an hour, I don't know what is the ideal temperature of a working device but after an hour I can't hold my phone without a thick case(or gloves lol)! It heavily affects the camera, focus has major issues, sometimes it says "can't connect to camera", touchscreen can be a little laggy when its hot...When I bought it from previous owner I didn't noticed it because on forums people kept complaining about heating, but then I realized that I was an idiot...I tried stock official roms, GB,CSI, and now JB, nothing changed!
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But if I reflash the stock kernel, it will flash the stock recovery, or not?
The stock recovery has wiping options too?
I had a little research on other bricking topics(other phone brands) throught xda and most peoples advice was to flash corrupted files through Odin,
like a boot.img or a corrupted update.zip to prevent the phone from even getting into download mode, making it an excelent paperweight I think that is fully undetectable sinc they cant do anything with it, and I can then tell that it will not boot up, I did nothing to it, tested with another battery, never fell, never got liquid, it was in a case, it has not even a scratch on it I would not do this if it wasn't necessary...I'ts always overheating like hell(I really tried everything to prevent that), even on charger, this is my second battery, my touchcreen response is poor, the bottom buttons are also laggy...I just want replacement before it's too late...It might hold up longer but my warranty expires on 31. Oct.
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it only works if you have a faulty emmc chip
Rick Roll said:
it only works if you have a faulty emmc chip
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How do I know that? My phone was first out in 31.10.2011.
DPluss said:
How do I know that? My phone was first out in 31.10.2011.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check&hl=es
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Thanks you very much!
Its says:
"Brick bug?
YES. Insane chip."
So if I revert everything to stock and then I start wiping stuff in recovery itt will hardbricked?
Can't it be even fixed in Download mode with Odin?
Jokesy said:
Ok.
very simple way to hard brick your phone.
Flash the wrong bootloader!
PS: first confirm that you can claim warranty service.
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I will confirm it!
So for example if I flash another phones boot.img throught Odin than it's a full disaster that can never be repaired?
Thank you!
Siyah kernel 3.1rc6 lol
DPluss said:
Thanks you very much!
Its says:
"Brick bug?
YES. Insane chip."
So if I revert everything to stock and then I start wiping stuff in recovery itt will hardbricked?
Can't it be even fixed in Download mode with Odin?
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Exactly, flash a stock 4.0.4 firmware and start wiping, not even a jtag service fixes that lol. or yeah, as jokesy said, flash a wrong bootloader
theunderling said:
Siyah kernel 3.1rc6 lol
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Lol, yeah, S3 kernel, I think that should work... I really want to do something that can't be reversed
What do you think? If I flash it, it would still go to the first screen? The one that says "Samsung Galaxy S2", or no response for ever?
Poroto said:
Exactly, flash a stock 4.0.4 firmware and start wiping, not even a jtag service fixes that lol. or yeah, as jokesy said, flash a wrong bootloader
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Thanks! I almost have all the info I need! Umm.. so if I wipe it's unreversable, and if I flash a wrong bootloader or kernel? Could Jtag service fix that?
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boot.img as far as i know is the kernel.
1. you need to download bootloader.tar Galaxy NOte GT N7000 (or any other samsung phone) and flash as pda via odin
or
2. you can download Galaxy SII bootloader.tar here.
then remove your cable as soon as odin starts writing the bootloader.
Gameover!
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Thanks, haha I think I will try to pull out the cable when the flashing start but first I will ask my provider about the warranty of course