Unlocking Bootloader - What do I really lose? - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I'm aware that unlocking the bootloader without backing up TA partition will potentially do the following :
1. Void warranty
2. Disable X-reality engine.
3. Affect camera quality? ( disputed as nobody has noticed this)
So for myself as a flashaholic, is it worth it?
1. - I'm used to this on every device I've owned. So no biggie.
2. Had anyone tested this yet? And so what? In the settings is states it's used for photos and movies. So possibly only within the photos and movies apps? Plus it's such a great screen anyway, is it even needed. And on previous devices I've seen the older bravia engine ported anyway, so it's just a software thing.
3. Looks unlikely to be true.
Anything I've missed?

furrypotato said:
So, I'm aware that unlocking the bootloader without backing up TA partition will potentially do the following :
1. Void warranty
2. Disable X-reality engine.
3. Affect camera quality? ( disputed as nobody has noticed this)
So for myself as a flashaholic, is it worth it?
1. - I'm used to this on every device I've owned. So no biggie.
2. Had anyone tested this yet? And so what? In the settings is states it's used for photos and movies. So possibly only within the photos and movies apps? Plus it's such a great screen anyway, is it even needed. And on previous devices I've seen the older bravia engine ported anyway, so it's just a software thing.
3. Looks unlikely to be true.
Anything I've missed?
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And the features for download music info
Some says that X-Reality still works even in unlocked bootloader,except Album.

Well, I think you summed it up pretty well right there.
For me the question is - do I need to unlock the bootloader right now? If you can wait I'm sure someone will come up with a way to back up the TA partition and save those all important DRM keys. Not that we care about those keys so much, but it would be nice to have the option to restore if needed

I am a flashoholic too, but I'm going to wait and see if there is an other way around. My only root apps are backup apps so it's no big deal. If no exploit have been released after say 4-6 months then I will just flash non the less (well if my BL is unlockable that is).

Ben Ling said:
And the features for download music info
Some says that X-Reality still works even in unlocked bootloader,except Album.
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Well I use Play Music All Access anyway so not bothered.
I like to tinker and get things setup just as I like it. So getting Root and therefore Xposed etc would be great. For example, I like to change DPI to fit as much as I can on that lovely screen. Everything seems just way too big as it is
Well, I have a holiday now so I guess I can wait a couple of weeks.....

losing X-Reality is a big lost for me. the screen is not comparable to superamoled+
only X-Reality can help to please my eyes when looking on pics or watching fullhd movies.

All x-reality seems to do is boost the colours, I ended up turning it off as it was making images I copied to the phone look strange & washed out, example a pic of my GF had a blue halo like blur on it with it on, turn it off & the pic looked normal.

I've now had X-reality switched off for a few days and am happy without it. The Z2 screen is great as it is and X-reality was just distorting photos, over saturating bright colours.
Once I get home from holiday I'll be unlocking and rooting for sure.

monx® said:
losing X-Reality is a big lost for me. the screen is not comparable to superamoled+
only X-Reality can help to please my eyes when looking on pics or watching fullhd movies.
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Well thats your taste then, cause z2 has really natural colors, while superamoled is unrealistic and oversaturated. Same thing with xreality turned on
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Help!! I want to buy Xperia mini pro

hi guyz i want to buy this xperia mini pro soon, could you give me some feedbacks? the quality, speed, performance, camera, & problem etc.
if i want to purchase what should I check it? and how to check/test it (basically i check wifi,sms/call,camera/video ) what i mean is for the speed, performance, etc that can i locate the problem or defect..
And...This phone can play actually in facebook games like holdempoker, tetris?(which i mean support flash 10.3?) , and for the updates, is this possible can upgrade 2.3.4 soon?
it is true that Manufacturing dates affected in xperia mini pro regarding noise background, camera blurred, annoying screen when slide keyboard
(you can check under your battery for the build date of your device)
Here are the list affected:
* 11W28
* 11W29
* 11W30
* 11W31
Is this true?
and do you have own 11W32 manufacturing dates which has no defect like issue above?
I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
Titan Nettix said:
I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
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wow thxs for your great informative response.. If i download 3d games like asphalt 6 or battlefield etc it required to root it first?.. and it is recommend to root new phones like 1 week old (i know it will void warrantly, but how about the other disadvantage in rooting?)
for android os, the spec shows that 2.3 but all users has 2.3.3 . I am little confusing about this, is they manual flash to get 2.3.3 or if I buy it actually 2.3.3 already?
for the annoying screen while slide keyboard check this youtube and forward @13:11 and i have found out other user crossed this issues but i lost that link but it is similar to these. . .
youtube.com/watch?v=y-q525gHrxA&feature=relmfu
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Mine is already at version 2.3.3 when I bought it. So no flashing needed.
I'm on slow gprs internet right now so I'll watch the video later. I forgot to tell you that an annoying colourful screen appears sometimes when I open many apps and games at the same time and then pressing the home key to go there. Not that the screen stays like that, but it happens very fast but you will notice it. I happen to see pink and green lines. You might have seen such a thing on PCs(it happened on mine). It freaks me out so I never did that again. I used taskmanagers for switching.
If you buy licensed games, I don't think rooting is needed. I haven't thought of buying just yet, and don't intend to root my phone till my warranty runs out. I'll have to study more about rooting before doing it as I'm new to android OS. I'm satisfied with playstation games at the moment.
Titan Nettix said:
Mine is already at version 2.3.3 when I bought it. So no flashing needed.
I'm on slow gprs internet right now so I'll watch the video later. I forgot to tell you that an annoying colourful screen appears sometimes when I open many apps and games at the same time and then pressing the home key to go there. Not that the screen stays like that, but it happens very fast but you will notice it. I happen to see pink and green lines. You might have seen such a thing on PCs(it happened on mine). It freaks me out so I never did that again. I used taskmanagers for switching.
If you buy licensed games, I don't think rooting is needed. I haven't thought of buying just yet, and don't intend to root my phone till my warranty runs out. I'll have to study more about rooting before doing it as I'm new to android OS. I'm satisfied with playstation games at the moment.
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ahh okay.. I am also new in android OS. So I will wait couple of months before proceed in rooting. (seriously I'm scared when attempting to root especially when they warn you like "rooting procedure incorrectly may have brick your phone" LOL. For the wifi did you check it before you purchase? it seems few users also encounter in wifi which unable to connect. . Maybe when I purchase this phone I know what you mean in taskmanager
rooting itself will not void your warrenty, as it can easily be undone as if you never tampered with the device. However, there is no easy way to root the phone (as in superoneclick or gingerbreak) and requires unlocking the bootloader which will void your warrenty.
I've heard that rooting can be undone, but is it a simple process or does it involve flashing a rom? I'm scared of flashing my phone. I've never done it even with my previous windows mobile and symbian phones.
And delmarz, about the wifi thing, I never checked 'cause I know I won't be needing it. But I've tried wifi tethering with my xperia and other phones which connected from mine ran with the same speed as in mine(alone). (...but seriously, I don't know which phone gets the credit in this case)
Titan Nettix said:
I've heard that rooting can be undone, but is it a simple process or does it involve flashing a rom? I'm scared of flashing my phone. I've never done it even with my previous windows mobile and symbian phones.
And delmarz, about the wifi thing, I never checked 'cause I know I won't be needing it. But I've tried wifi tethering with my xperia and other phones which connected from mine ran with the same speed as in mine(alone). (...but seriously, I don't know which phone gets the credit in this case)
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All you need to do to unroot your phone is to click on the restore or repair button in the Sony Ericsson pc suite.
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Titan Nettix said:
I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
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+1 thumb up!
prinzhernan said:
All you need to do to unroot your phone is to click on the restore or repair button in the Sony Ericsson pc suite.
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Oh okay. Still, I will root it when my warranty runs out.
Titan Nettix said:
Oh okay. Still, I will root it when my warranty runs out.
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hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
delmarz said:
hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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Hmm, I always thought its JUST to have full control of your android system.
delmarz said:
hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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Root itself lets you have total control over the android system. I haven't rooted mine because I dont see the need to. Everything runs perfectly.
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Not rooting ya android phone is like having a pretty young GF and not boning it every night.
It lets you install some very useful apps, get rid of the horrible bloatware crap networks install, and gives you full control of your device.
delmarz said:
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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One really useful thing is that it is possible to take a backup of all the program's setting, game acheivements etc. This is not possible with a non rooted phone. The backup programs can't access the app db if not rooted.
If you need to reset your phone for some reason, at least your work and progress isn't spoiled.
thank you for your reponse I bought my xperia mini pro today ...but help i downloaded the NFS(games) in pc my question where do I paste it?... usually i paste it in Phone Card (E but when I browse in phones i did not locate my NFS installer ..help me
delmarz said:
thank you for your reponse I bought my xperia mini pro today ...but help i downloaded the NFS(games) in pc my question where do I paste it?... usually i paste it in Phone Card (E but when I browse in phones i did not locate my NFS installer ..help me
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Congrats, welcome to the family.
You downloaded the .apk file or the 'sdcard' data? For sdcard data, you can google where to put it (plus there should be an info from the site you downloaded). For installer (apk file), keep it anywhere. Try refreshing your folders or close the window and open again(if you're searching from pc). There should be no problem locating from the phone itself with any file manager.
Otherwise, use application installer from menu. It will automatically search for it. Careful though, nfs shift is the app that started the 'annoying screen' in my phone. I downloaded the installer and installed it, then started it, while downloading its data, I pressed home and then whoosh the pink-green-blah blah blah screen came in a flash. Most android users will try nfs first, don't worry.
Hello!
Advantage from rooting:
Full control over the device.
Disadvantage from rooting:
Losing capability of DRM reproduction and the trackid feature/app
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Get astro file manager from market, put .apk files into a folder, browse to folder with astro and you can install them.
tigger69 said:
Get astro file manager from market, put .apk files into a folder, browse to folder with astro and you can install them.
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Don't really need that. Just open application installer from the app drawer and if you really did copy to your phone, then it will be shown there.

[Q] couple of questions

So I'm new to android after having an iPhone for the past 4 years and decided I wanted a change. I couldn't decide between the z2 and the m8. I've had a HTC before and it was quite possibly the worst phone I've ever owned (hero) however I loved sense. And the xperia ui just seems too plain for me. So im wondering, if rooted would I be able to put sense 6 on my z2? Would it work the way it should or would there be limitations?
I was also wondering about the whole kid mode thing on sense / touchwiz. Can this be changed into a sort of profile for the phone? So I could have it set to my profile and have everything open to me or set it to another and have half of my stuff different. (Ie apps, logins, etc etc ) basically like having different log ins to a PC.
And my final question is; can you get the phone to have an iOS control panel (slide from the bottom). That was ridiculously helpful and its missed greatly!
On a different note, my double tap to wake can be a little off by not working and I've had a couple of occasions where my phones been in my pocket for a while and it failed to wake up (double tap or physical button) have Sony addressed these issues and is there going to be a fix? From what I can gather the double tap is a certain builds issue. I've also got a gap in the bottom left and the phone overheats shooting 4k. I'm not too bothered by the overheat but I still expected more for a flagship phone. /:
I'd send it back but I'm worried id receive a phone with even worse problems. /: almost makes me wish I'd got the m8!!
Yes there is some ported Blinkfeed from Sense6. (didn't work for me anyway) Otherwise You can try Golauncher or something else.
2nd question kid mode isn't pre-installed in this phone, not sure about what kid mode does. But I found an apps that you can try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoodles.kidmode
3rd question you can't have exactly same things as ios, but you might like PieControl.... it's something different from what you expecting.... you may also try SmallApps(with Sony UI)
Double tap to wake is working fine for me and it should work without any problem. Before you messed it up rooting or flashing I recommend you to take it to shop and ask.
4k overheating is normal and gap is fault. Definitely you can get new XZ2. Gap issue is not good with waterproof.
CenteaOSD said:
Yes there is some ported Blinkfeed from Sense6. (didn't work for me anyway) Otherwise You can try Golauncher or something else.
2nd question kid mode isn't pre-installed in this phone, not sure about what kid mode does. But I found an apps that you can try
3rd question you can't have exactly same things as ios, but you might like PieControl.... it's something different from what you expecting.... you may also try SmallApps(with Sony UI)
Double tap to wake is working fine for me and it should work without any problem. Before you messed it up rooting or flashing I recommend you to take it to shop and ask.
4k overheating is normal and gap is fault. Definitely you can get new XZ2. Gap issue is not good with waterproof.
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I mean, once rooted is there a way I can put sense6 on my phone as a whole? Not just blinkfeed..
Yeah, I've seen with a few security apps that you can password protect particular apps and stuff but I was wondering if there was a way you could have different profiles set for the phone which youd have to log into for example.
Thanks for the info, I shall give those two a go!
Yeah, I think I'll go into a three store tomorrow. Is there a production line that's fault free so far?
Thanks for the help so far, sorry if I didn't make my original questions clear enough!
xRoyle said:
I mean, once rooted is there a way I can put sense6 on my phone as a whole? Not just blinkfeed..
Yeah, I've seen with a few security apps that you can password protect particular apps and stuff but I was wondering if there was a way you could have different profiles set for the phone which youd have to log into for example.
Thanks for the info, I shall give those two a go!
Yeah, I think I'll go into a three store tomorrow. Is there a production line that's fault free so far?
Thanks for the help so far, sorry if I didn't make my original questions clear enough!
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Sorry it's my misunderstood. Yes there is no sense poted rom for XperiaZ2 and there will be no sense ported rom in future,I bet.
I've seen Sense Ported ROM on GalaxyS2 but it's discontinued..... so it's very difficult to port it.
Have fun with your XperiaZ2! And have a nice day!

Questions for AOSP ROM Z2 users (CM11, Carbon, etc)

Hi guys,
I've owned my Z2 for about a month now, really enjoying the phone. I've rooted and created a TA backup zip and have been exploring more of the phone with root, however, since my first phone was a Nexus, I'd like to go back and test the waters with an AOSP-based image like CarbonROM, but there's a couple concerns with doing so:
Will the camera button functionality remain? I like being able to launch the camera with a physical button, and the half/long-press functionality.
How well do apps like Google Camera, Impala, and VSCO Cam fill the void left by losing the Z2 camera app? Are they suitable substitutes?
Aside from the DRM keys that I've saved in the TA backup, what else is there to worry about losing after unlocking the bootloader? I don't have any investment in Sony's ecosystem outside of this phone, so things like "Social News" and "SmartConnect" aren't exactly deal breakers. In fact, I don't even think I use the active noise cancelling because I own Sennheiser/ATH headphones.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ricebun said:
Hi guys,
I've owned my Z2 for about a month now, really enjoying the phone. I've rooted and created a TA backup zip and have been exploring more of the phone with root, however, since my first phone was a Nexus, I'd like to go back and test the waters with an AOSP-based image like CarbonROM, but there's a couple concerns with doing so:
Will the camera button functionality remain? I like being able to launch the camera with a physical button, and the half/long-press functionality.
How well do apps like Google Camera, Impala, and VSCO Cam fill the void left by losing the Z2 camera app? Are they suitable substitutes?
Aside from the DRM keys that I've saved in the TA backup, what else is there to worry about losing after unlocking the bootloader? I don't have any investment in Sony's ecosystem outside of this phone, so things like "Social News" and "SmartConnect" aren't exactly deal breakers. In fact, I don't even think I use the active noise cancelling because I own Sennheiser/ATH headphones.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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On XDA in the N5 thread there is a flashable zip for CameraNext from the OnePlus One with this the half/longpress feature is working fine. And everything exept 4k video recording is working fine. But I'm also working on that (soon hopefully together with Kali-, a CM Admin and the sirius maintainer). I don't think you would need anything than saving TA Partition but remember that the Internal storage WILL get formatten when unlocking your bootloader.
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Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks!

Issue with Playstation App

Hello everyone. New Z2 owner here, long history with android though! I tried searching around but found a little bit of information before posting. I have a D6503, build number 17.1.2.A.0.214 (ATT USA) and i cant seem to figure out what broke my playstation app. When i first opened the phone yesterday everything worked well, this morning i unlocked bootloader (didnt back up my TA keys im such an idiot) and that was successful. Really wish i did more research on backing up my DRM keys, first sony phone and lesson learned.
I didn't flash a rom, nor do i have root and still giving me an error when trying to sign in over and over. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, even factory flashed a tf file like it just came out the box. What could be wrong? I know once you unlock bootloader you lose DRM keys, but did unlocked break my playstation app? Any helped would be appreciated.
Error code: 0X82E01003
Anyone?
Error code: 0X82E01003
i have xperia z2 and i have also unlocked bootloader my DRM keys lost forever,
im having exactly the same issue, justthatmy app was working 4 weeks ago with no problems, and by that time my bootloader was already open so maybe its not an error related to the DRM keys, still i dont know why doesnt allow me to sign in on my Z2
does anyone solved it?
ado000178 said:
i have xperia z2 and i have also unlocked bootloader my DRM keys lost forever,
im having exactly the same issue, justthatmy app was working 4 weeks ago with no problems, and by that time my bootloader was already open so maybe its not an error related to the DRM keys, still i dont know why doesnt allow me to sign in on my Z2
does anyone solved it?
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same thing happen to me
and error C-80F80A01 on remote play
Same errors here, ive tried asking if its related to drm but didnt get a response, uninstalling updates for playstation app from the play store will make it work, not getting anywhere with remote play tho, i think drm keys may have been added with new version because i dont see many people complaining that its not working, the few who have complained have unlocked bootloaders and Z3 forums have remote play confirmed broke if bootloader unlocked.
However if this is the case then i cannot understand how people have it ported and running on non sony phones....... for the record i cant get the port working either
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Im off to annoy sony on there live chat, will report back in the unlikely event i chat to a sony staff that knows what theyre on about lol
Well after a long chat with sony chat support, i didnt get a straight answer but it would appear that remote play is broken due to loss of drm keys, on that note anyone want to swap a bootloader unlocked z2 (with no ta backup) for an unlockable z2? lol
I'm locked bootloader, and had trouble, as soon as I deleted super su app, ps4 remote play worked again
Unlocked bootloader means Playstation services broken. Being punished for wanting to unlock my phone and customize it. Will never buy another sony phone. Bought this phone for remote play and I now can't use it.
so disappointed
kennypow3rs said:
Unlocked bootloader means Playstation services broken. Being punished for wanting to unlock my phone and customize it. Will never buy another sony phone. Bought this phone for remote play and I now can't use it.
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As they said, now that we have the update we cant use rem play such a bull****, so i think its not sony fault bro its ours for not backing up that frickin TA stupid folder so were pretty much f####k up by our own actions, damm!! In so stupid!! Ok i give up... im selling this phone and gettin a new z2! Since price came down...i aint getting z3 cause desin its a downgrade to me with that stupid notification led... No thanks im getting brand new z2 with a ta folder intact!! Lesson learned!!!
ado000178 said:
As they said, now that we have the update we cant use rem play such a bull****, so i think its not sony fault bro its ours for not backing up that frickin TA stupid folder so were pretty much f####k up by our own actions, damm!! In so stupid!! Ok i give up... im selling this phone and gettin a new z2! Since price came down...i aint getting z3 cause desin its a downgrade to me with that stupid notification led... No thanks im getting brand new z2 with a ta folder intact!! Lesson learned!!!
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wait....... aint tried it yet, looking for deodexed 4.4.4, sure envious data posted one......... but give this a try first http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
thanks bro
numskull said:
wait....... aint tried it yet, looking for deodexed 4.4.4, sure envious data posted one......... but give this a try first http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
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thanks dude i will
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thanks dude i will
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No worries, i have it installed now but hasnt made xreality work, so im doubtful but ya never know
numskull said:
No worries, i have it installed now but hasnt made xreality work, so im doubtful but ya never know
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yeah im already looking to sell my phone to be honest. Bought it for remote play, that feature is probably lost for me forever. On the hunt for another good phone.
Had the Nexus 5, M8, M7, OnePlus One, Lg G3 all this year lol. Guess my hunt continues for the perfect device. This sony came really close but sony immediately lost my attention with the DRM keys bull.
kennypow3rs said:
yeah im already looking to sell my phone to be honest. Bought it for remote play, that feature is probably lost for me forever. On the hunt for another good phone.
Had the Nexus 5, M8, M7, OnePlus One, Lg G3 all this year lol. Guess my hunt continues for the perfect device. This sony came really close but sony immediately lost my attention with the DRM keys bull.
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Considering the same to be honest, cant say i got this phone because of remote play (got it back in april) i was gonna get an xperia anyway, but went for the z2 mostly in case of any compatibility with my ps4, wasnt possible to root and backup when i unlocked, but the playstation app and all my other worked fine after unlocking, 6 months with a great phone then bam, cant use my usual playstation app or new remote play, wouldn't have unlocked if i knew that was gonna happen, worst part is, about 2 weeks after i unlocked someone discovered a way to root n backup first, grrrrrrrr
On the plus side, im not a devoloper or anything, but i tried loads of methods of getting some kind of temp root access to pull that TA file back then, that mod, while not making anything work, it has created a folder on my phone that i havent seen since may......
Im on the same page i was only putting up with the annoying low low notification bug because we were getting remote play etc.
Now i have no reason to keep this device looking to get the G3
How did you find the G3 Kennypow3rs
numskull said:
Considering the same to be honest, cant say i got this phone because of remote play (got it back in april) i was gonna get an xperia anyway, but went for the z2 mostly in case of any compatibility with my ps4, wasnt possible to root and backup when i unlocked, but the playstation app and all my other worked fine after unlocking, 6 months with a great phone then bam, cant use my usual playstation app or new remote play, wouldn't have unlocked if i knew that was gonna happen, worst part is, about 2 weeks after i unlocked someone discovered a way to root n backup first, grrrrrrrr
On the plus side, im not a devoloper or anything, but i tried loads of methods of getting some kind of temp root access to pull that TA file back then, that mod, while not making anything work, it has created a folder on my phone that i havent seen since may......
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Sony broke remote play on purpose, they just launched the Z3, thats one of the only features people would actually buy a sony phone to be honest. Sony knows this. If they allowed all over phones to access remote play then they'd never sell any phones. I get it, but it still sucks. Remote play is gone for now. No way unless a dev cooks up a way to make it work without DRM keys. Im sure, then even sony predicted that so they have ways of locking it out. In a nutshell they punished you for unlocking, you paid the price now buy a Z3 they said.
dude you just described my feeling....
numskull said:
Considering the same to be honest, cant say i got this phone because of remote play (got it back in april) i was gonna get an xperia anyway, but went for the z2 mostly in case of any compatibility with my ps4, wasnt possible to root and backup when i unlocked, but the playstation app and all my other worked fine after unlocking, 6 months with a great phone then bam, cant use my usual playstation app or new remote play, wouldn't have unlocked if i knew that was gonna happen, worst part is, about 2 weeks after i unlocked someone discovered a way to root n backup first, grrrrrrrr
On the plus side, im not a devoloper or anything, but i tried loads of methods of getting some kind of temp root access to pull that TA file back then, that mod, while not making anything work, it has created a folder on my phone that i havent seen since may......
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yeap! back then i just wanted the sound mod from olokos in my phone but have working both of my speakers in a call caused trouble to the person in the other side havin hard time listening my voice so i ended up uninstalling the mood and relocking with flashtool, result= TA forlder gone and all for nothing. sell it before it gets too DAmm cheap!
manemzjum said:
Im on the same page i was only putting up with the annoying low low notification bug because we were getting remote play etc.
Now i have no reason to keep this device looking to get the G3
How did you find the G3 Kennypow3rs
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The G3 was the perfect phone ive used to date minus the screen.If LG would have only included a 1080p screen instead of a QHD 2k screen, it would have been 10/10. The screen just drains too much battery and not needed yet in technology for phones. It really drains the battery so much. I would say pass on it. Also there is zero development to be honest. Get a Nexus 6 or something else. All those phones ive listed id say pass on and wait for something better.
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Sony broke remote play on purpose, they just launched the Z3, thats one of the only features people would actually buy a sony phone to be honest. Sony knows this. If they allowed all over phones to access remote play then they'd never sell any phones. I get it, but it still sucks. Remote play is gone for now. No way unless a dev cooks up a way to make it work without DRM keys. Im sure, then even sony predicted that so they have ways of locking it out. In a nutshell they punished you for unlocking, you paid the price now buy a Z3 they said.
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Only problem is, it is on other phones. The port of remote play runs on galaxy s4, note3 some htc devices, its unlocked and rooted sony devices its not working on
kennypow3rs said:
The G3 was the perfect phone ive used to date minus the screen.If LG would have only included a 1080p screen instead of a QHD 2k screen, it would have been 10/10. The screen just drains too much battery and not needed yet in technology for phones. It really drains the battery so much. I would say pass on it. Also there is zero development to be honest. Get a Nexus 6 or something else. All those phones ive listed id say pass on and wait for something better.
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I'm really drawn to the G3 so given what you've described here if I just added an extended battery or just carried a spare sounds ideal
I must admit the Z2 has been quite impressive with battery life I can from note 3 which was/is a superb device I swapped to Z2 just for a change the numerous problems ha email just put me off
Notifications
The fact I can see the digitizer touch panel points on the screen
Now block psn app and remote play
In don't find the touch screen as responsive/accurate as other devices
Got someone looking for a straight trade for G3 so may take them up on it
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[Camera Problem] Camera doesn't save picture

Since 10 days threre is a bug in my Xperia 1. If I take a picture, camera doesn't save the picture, also in the small preview the loading image will be there for hours. After restart it works perfect for about 10 pictures, but the problems will be there again. If I will use another camera app there will will be a camera fault.
Xperia 10 or xperia 1? This is the Xperia 1 forum..
But anyways, try clearing data from the camera app. Settings > apps > Camera
Xperia 1, sorry fault in typing. I tried this 3 times, but no change
I have also had this problem. The camera app is trash. The battery and screen are the only things going for this overpriced junk. Sony should deliver more for the price they are asking.
nirvananils said:
Xperia 1, sorry fault in typing. I tried this 3 times, but no change
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Are you on the latest firmware? And are you saving to the Internal storage or sd card?
jms.flynn said:
I have also had this problem. The camera app is trash. The battery and screen are the only things going for this overpriced junk. Sony should deliver more for the price they are asking.
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Camera app is fine. Sell it and move on if you're not happy.
Yes latest firmware. Device is great, also pictures if it works with camera
iArvee said:
Are you on the latest firmware? And are you saving to the Internal storage or sd card?
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I am having the same issues. and I am on the latest firmware. And set to internal storage.
iArvee said:
Camera app is fine. Sell it and move on if you're not happy.
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Camera app is trash, It's slowest app on the entire phone. I don't have any issues on other apps loading but Camera app takes seconds to load.
Like the OP said photos are being processed and it's not saved for a long time. Need a restart of the entire phone to get them to work.
Then again sometimes photos are saved as green, like complete useless.
And you shouldn't say like sell it and move on cause us/consumers bought this phone paying $1000 because we have a trust in the company, And I have been using Sony for the past decade, I always had problems with their camera app. It's so laggy.
From the start to transition of three cameras then video recording lag, no smoothness in zooming in during video etc. But why I buy Sony? cause I have a faith that in some point they will fix it, but they never do. Then you may ask why I still buy Sony cause I love the design and as a hardware product Sony has a very minimal failure rate. Like my XZP I have used for entire two years, never gave me a single issue except for laggyness of the camera.
So when someone comes and complains an issue in Q&A and when they are really pointing out a real issue don't say "Sell it and Move on if you're not happy." it's like you're making Sony Mobile extinct. Your attitude makes them wanna quit mobile developing. So think about it before say something like this before, Don't be that guy in the internet. :highfive:
chesterr said:
Camera app is trash, It's slowest app on the entire phone. I don't have any issues on other apps loading but Camera app takes seconds to load.
Like the OP said photos are being processed and it's not saved for a long time. Need a restart of the entire phone to get them to work.
Then again sometimes photos are saved as green, like complete useless.
And you shouldn't say like sell it and move on cause us/consumers bought this phone paying $1000 because we have a trust in the company, And I have been using Sony for the past decade, I always had problems with their camera app. It's so laggy.
From the start to transition of three cameras then video recording lag, no smoothness in zooming in during video etc. But why I buy Sony? cause I have a faith that in some point they will fix it, but they never do. Then you may ask why I still buy Sony cause I love the design and as a hardware product Sony has a very minimal failure rate. Like my XZP I have used for entire two years, never gave me a single issue except for laggyness of the camera.
So when someone comes and complains an issue in Q&A and when they are really pointing out a real issue don't say "Sell it and Move on if you're not happy." it's like you're making Sony Mobile extinct. Your attitude makes them wanna quit mobile developing. So think about it before say something like this before, Don't be that guy in the internet. :highfive:
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Camera does load slow, but I can live with it. Photos do not take a long time to process. I don't need to restart my phone in order to get them to work. Photos never saved as green for me. But of course, my experience is different from others.
Never had recording lag. Smoothness well yeah it's not smooth. I bought Sony because I like Sony as well. Have been using Xperia since 2014.
Do a software repair, which usually fixes 99% of all problems. I'm just saying, if you're not happy, then sell and move on. Complaining won't get you anywhere, will only get you so far.
iArvee said:
Camera does load slow, but I can live with it.
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No you can't live with that, It's a real bummer that it takes ages to load, I mean it's 2019 and take a look at other OEMs how much attention they pay to their cameras. This is why Sony is lagging behind. Look how much Sony's other divisions listen to consumer. I don't think I can accept the fact that it takes like 2 seconds to load the app. There was a time Camera app was really fast to open.
iArvee said:
Photos do not take a long time to process. I don't need to restart my phone in order to get them to work. Photos never saved as green for me. But of course, my experience is different from others.
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If you're saying it doesn't take a long time to process then clearly you've been using a different phone, cause my Xperia 1 is taking a long time to process some photos and it needs to be restarted as well.
iArvee said:
Never had recording lag. Smoothness well yeah it's not smooth. I bought Sony because I like Sony as well. Have been using Xperia since 2014.
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Well Zooming in isn't really smooth if you hadn't used it, This proves how often do you use the camera app. It's like these things are new to you.
Have you used a compact camera? or a camcorder? It's like that. https://youtu.be/WHpo-Dl4yt4?t=465
Take a look at this and see cause he literally explains the smoothness on zooming in and the recording. Frames dropping when the phone gets heated up.
Then again I feel like this 960fps is fun to use when you get it first but how often do you use it. I'd rather have 1080p 120fps/240fps, 4K 24fps/30fps/60fps and a smooth transition in cameras which is totally can be done by software. Sony needs to focus on the camera app and be serious about it. I mean they headed in the right direction with this phone but they cut it off immediately by delivering a mediocre camera software. I wouldn't mind them contacting Google and asking them to use Gcam on this phone, like literally let google use Googles software cause it's that bad. I use it and I take photos and I do love the photos comes out of this phone, I genuinely do and I wanna use the camera a lot but I get bored and tired of using it cause the restrictions they have.
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Have a look at this photo, I mean people asked me if I did take it with my phone and they didn't believe, I did some colour adjustments to my liking with LR, but still it does take amazing photos but I feel like it can do more but holding back.
iArvee said:
Do a software repair, which usually fixes 99% of all problems. I'm just saying, if you're not happy, then sell and move on. Complaining won't get you anywhere, will only get you so far.
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Bro why would I be doing software repairs for silly problems like this? This easily can be fixed with a software update. Plus If I keep doing software updates for each and every problem I have with the phone, I would be only doing that but not using the phone. SOFTWARE REPAIR IS NOT A FIX.
Sony should serious about smart phone cameras as they're with mirrorless and RX-100 series. Don't say sell it and move on to a guy who's been using Sony phones from 2005 when Sony was with Ericsson, when Sony was having some of the best camera phones.: highfive:
chesterr said:
No you can't live with that, It's a real bummer that it takes ages to load, I mean it's 2019 and take a look at other OEMs how much attention they pay to their cameras. This is why Sony is lagging behind. Look how much Sony's other divisions listen to consumer. I don't think I can accept the fact that it takes like 2 seconds to load the app. There was a time Camera app was really fast to open.
If you're saying it doesn't take a long time to process then clearly you've been using a different phone, cause my Xperia 1 is taking a long time to process some photos and it needs to be restarted as well.
Well Zooming in isn't really smooth if you hadn't used it, This proves how often do you use the camera app. It's like these things are new to you.
Have you used a compact camera? or a camcorder? It's like that. https://youtu.be/WHpo-Dl4yt4?t=465
Take a look at this and see cause he literally explains the smoothness on zooming in and the recording. Frames dropping when the phone gets heated up.
Then again I feel like this 960fps is fun to use when you get it first but how often do you use it. I'd rather have 1080p 120fps/240fps, 4K 24fps/30fps/60fps and a smooth transition in cameras which is totally can be done by software. Sony needs to focus on the camera app and be serious about it. I mean they headed in the right direction with this phone but they cut it off immediately by delivering a mediocre camera software. I wouldn't mind them contacting Google and asking them to use Gcam on this phone, like literally let google use Googles software cause it's that bad. I use it and I take photos and I do love the photos comes out of this phone, I genuinely do and I wanna use the camera a lot but I get bored and tired of using it cause the restrictions they have.
View attachment 4857189 Have a look at this photo, I mean people asked me if I did take it with my phone and they didn't believe, I did some colour adjustments to my liking with LR, but still it does take amazing photos but I feel like it can do more but holding back.
Bro why would I be doing software repairs for silly problems like this? This easily can be fixed with a software update. Plus If I keep doing software updates for each and every problem I have with the phone, I would be only doing that but not using the phone. SOFTWARE REPAIR IS NOT A FIX.
Sony should serious about smart phone cameras as they're with mirrorless and RX-100 series. Don't say sell it and move on to a guy who's been using Sony phones from 2005 when Sony was with Ericsson, when Sony was having some of the best camera phones.: highfive:
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I can live with it. Because I'm patient. I'm not sure how you can dictate if I can live with how things are or not. Again, the photos process fast for me without any problems. Regardless if I save on the SD card or internal storage.
Software repair is a fix for some issues. Hence "repair". It solves a lot of software problems. You've been using phones since 2005? Congrats! AFAIK, there's internal struggles with their Alpha cameras and mobile, hence the bad connection between the two. The current (new) president of Sony mobile was the first to "unite" them in a way.
But anyways, you have your opinions, I have mine. Don't try to force your way on me, especially from someone who has been "using Sony phones from 2005".
I suggested a fix via Software Repair. If it doesn't work, complain on the proper forum; or sell and move on.
Ok i have this problem too... And its really annoying because when i want to find it in my album last pic that i took its not there
Had this problem to.
Hard reset fixed it for me. (Hold volume up + power until 3 times vibration)
I have to agree with you chesterr...
This isnt the way Sony handled us. Btw Using Sony (ericsson) since the phones with the first color screens.
Cmon, its a flagship phone. How can your phone/app be laggy?
Look at the sections of sony phones, its just empty.
Why?
Because of the "I am sony, I am high class" logic.
I know they are busy with the new android but atleast fix those minor bugs.. Its really frustating. It has nothing to do with patience. What if you need to take a picture of a fast moving object? Shoot out with "hey wait I have patience! Im gonna take a picture"!?
Be realistic. No offence of course.
in gallory app, there is a troubleshooting option in in-app settings, it can solve ur problem.
or, you can disable sony's gallory app, use other gallory app like Google Photos instead.
Efe64 said:
Had this problem to.
Hard reset fixed it for me. (Hold volume up + power until 3 times vibration)
I have to agree with you chesterr...
This isnt the way Sony handled us. Btw Using Sony (ericsson) since the phones with the first color screens.
Cmon, its a flagship phone. How can your phone/app be laggy?
Look at the sections of sony phones, its just empty.
Why?
Because of the "I am sony, I am high class" logic.
I know they are busy with the new android but atleast fix those minor bugs.. Its really frustating. It has nothing to do with patience. What if you need to take a picture of a fast moving object? Shoot out with "hey wait I have patience! Im gonna take a picture"!?
Be realistic. No offence of course.
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Oddly I do not have this problem with the launch of the camera. It does not even take a half-second to open the application, taking photos longer is quite logical because there is an intermediate (the dram). Moreover, the xperia 5, which does not have dram, taking photos is faster. For unregistered photos I wonder if this is not a material design defect related to the dram since there are only some people who are concerned and not all of the users.
doungmli said:
Oddly I do not have this problem with the launch of the camera. It does not even take a half-second to open the application, taking photos longer is quite logical because there is an intermediate (the dram). Moreover, the xperia 5, which does not have dram, taking photos is faster. For unregistered photos I wonder if this is not a material design defect related to the dram since there are only some people who are concerned and not all of the users.
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The problem is launching from the lockscreen with the camera button. Camera icon works flawlessly.
So the dram chip is a complete failure then?
https://www.sonymobile.com/be/legal/testresults/xperia-xz1/#gref
Its supposed to be 5 times faster?
Efe64 said:
The problem is launching from the lockscreen with the camera button. Camera icon works flawlessly.
So the dram chip is a complete failure then?
https://www.sonymobile.com/be/legal/testresults/xperia-xz1/#gref
Its supposed to be 5 times faster?
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the dram is actually much faster but acts like a cache. So in practice, the data is stored on the dram then the internal memory or the microsd and a delay is mandatory. The advantage of the dram is to be able to offer a better bursts or an idle 960 fps. A good example for the transfer delay is in a reflex camera where you can see the buffer empty during a burst. But for unregistered photos a problem of dram is not an exclude it is only flash memory and in this area it's pretty recurrent I had several defective ssd or ram to the purchase . Obviously this is only an assumption I would prefer that it is purely software for those concerned by the problem
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Efe64 said:
The problem is launching from the lockscreen with the camera button. Camera icon works flawlessly.
So the dram chip is a complete failure then?
https://www.sonymobile.com/be/legal/testresults/xperia-xz1/#gref
Its supposed to be 5 times faster?
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Even from the lockscren I do not have that, after the camera is torn down in the android battery optimization, and I activated the smart launch as well as the immediate take. That may be the difference.
doungmli said:
the dram is actually much faster but acts like a cache. So in practice, the data is stored on the dram then the internal memory or the microsd and a delay is mandatory. The advantage of the dram is to be able to offer a better bursts or an idle 960 fps. A good example for the transfer delay is in a reflex camera where you can see the buffer empty during a burst. But for unregistered photos a problem of dram is not an exclude it is only flash memory and in this area it's pretty recurrent I had several defective ssd or ram to the purchase . Obviously this is only an assumption I would prefer that it is purely software for those concerned by the problem
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Even from the lockscren I do not have that, after the camera is torn down in the android battery optimization, and I activated the smart launch as well as the immediate take. That may be the difference.
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"it is purely software for those concerned by the problem"
^ This
Its like the newest BMW M5 got gearproblems but you dont recall it.
So i guess i need to reset my phone then.
Efe64 said:
"it is purely software for those concerned by the problem"
^ This
Its like the newest BMW M5 got gearproblems but you dont recall it.
So i guess i need to reset my phone then.
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I hope it's software but weird that not all models are affected in this case, maybe a poorly done update. Always tried a repair / reset, if it still may be a hardware defect, I had once had a problem recording 960 fps on the premium xz and that was the dram the problem
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Efe64 said:
"it is purely software for those concerned by the problem"
^ This
Its like the newest BMW M5 got gearproblems but you dont recall it.
So i guess i need to reset my phone then.
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Also try to uncheck the camera in android optimization to launch the application from the lockscreen, it has tandence to be quite aggressive
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doungmli said:
I hope it's software but weird that not all models are affected in this case, maybe a poorly done update. Always tried a repair / reset, if it still may be a hardware defect, I had once had a problem recording 960 fps on the premium xz and that was the dram the problem
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Also try to uncheck the camera in android optimization to launch the application from the lockscreen, it has tandence to be quite aggressive
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Yes, tried I hope your problem will be solved. Have a good day
Android optimization? How?
I made an account just to reply here for whoever may one day face this issue - I just purchased an xperia XZ [I know its 2021 and its from 2016] anyway, I love xperia phones and am replacing my xperia z3+
Anyway!
TO FIX THIS =============================
First test to verify --- REMOVE YOUR SD CARD [Can you see your photos?]
IF YES
THEN
FORMAT YOUR SD CARD AS EXTERNAL / INTERNAL STORAGE [whichever option you are allowed I chose external]
Your problem will then be fixed.
I tried transferring my sd card from previous xperia directly to my new one and thats what caused this problem.
I hope this helps you, don't be upset, its a wonderful device.... <3

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