Widgets? - Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

Is it possible to “root" my Kindle, and load on Android?
Don't need to have two OS's. Just want the pure Andriod experience + widgets.

bookbuster said:
Is it possible to “root" my Kindle, and load on Android?
Don't need to have two OS's. Just want the pure Andriod experience + widgets.
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In the future please be more descriptive in your titles.
Anyway... If you are updated to the latest firmware, the short answer is no. Sorry dude, amazon has this locked down like Fred Phelp's butthole at a drag show.
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tokenpoke said:
In the future please be more descriptive in your titles.
Anyway... If you are updated to the latest firmware, the short answer is no. Sorry dude, amazon has this locked down like Fred Phelp's butthole at a drag show.
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Uhhh. I actually watched it update, and a part of me thought. “oh no."
Well. What is the best browser on kindle OS then?

That is a matter of opinion. I actually don't use my kindle anymore, having gotten annoyed with it way too many times and haven't tried any alternative browsers but if you can get chrome or dolphin on there they are both much better than silk in my personal opinion.
I'm guessing you're a new user so I'm gonna give you a couple friendly tips about xda
1. Don't ask for ETA's, that means don't ask "when/will there be an update for *anything*" the devs do all their work in their free time and don't exactly get paid for the numerous hours spent making ROMs/mods, cracking security, gaining root access.
2. Matters of opinion are not generally acceptable posts or questions because "what is the best..." Is based on personal preference and the threads quickly deteriorate into a pissing contest
3. As stated, be more specific when making threads
4. Before asking a question browse the forum and use the search function. Not only does it prevent multiple threads on the same topic but you often find your answer faster that way.
Welcome to the forum! Good luck not using the kindle to kill yourself in frustration, lol.
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No. Locked bootloader means no true ROMs at the moment, only "mods" that adds to the factory ROM.
CJuspast (sorry about spelling) had a pure ROM based partially on a Nexus ROM. It doesn't work that well.
Given that a "modded" ROM works quite well (I have both Amazon *and* Google play working together) taking one other doesn't really make it run any better.

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Help me choose the best rom for my needs please..

I am rooting soon and would like to know what rom is close to stock but takes out the bs apps like footprints and such, runs quick, lets me overclock, live wallpaper, has the basic functions working (google voice, marketplace, voice input, etc). Also why choose other roms vs. what I need? Do other roms have better functionality? Thank you for all for the great community especially the devs. Love you guys!
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If you're looking for a rom that's close to stock try plain jane OR XTROM.
If you're looking for the fastest thing out there you'll want one of the froyo ROM's but they aren't stable yet.
try the plain_janeT2....... pretty much stock 2.1....... can overclock, a2sd, wifi tether...... removes apps like footprints, amazon, peep, stocks....
Or Eris Official 1.0 by Ivanmmj
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Or Eris Official 1.0 by Ivanmmj
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I had problems with web views on apps though with Ivans - presumably because it uses the 2.1 leak instead of the OTA. Id recommend PlainJain for HTC goodness, but XTROM for sweetness and speed. That thing is peppy.
Also, you can very easily remove stock apps yourself. So whichever ROM you choose, adb commands (or Root Explorer app), can get rid of em for ya.
I use titanium backup to freeze/uninstall apps.
I did a search for XTROM and nothing came up.
XtrRom3.03
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jessebwallace said:
I had problems with web views on apps though with Ivans - presumably because it uses the 2.1 leak instead of the OTA. Id recommend PlainJain for HTC goodness, but XTROM for sweetness and speed. That thing is peppy.
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This is true if ivan's 0.8t2, but Eris_official 1.0 Is perfect
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begin rant :: Can someone please move this thread to general? I don't mean to be an ass, but people come to this forum for threads on developing and the amount of "I'm a noob, please help me" threads in here is getting out of hand. I have nothing against them, they just belong in general. :: end rant
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Funny but I didn't say I was a noob. I do however not have all the time in the world because I do have a daughter to attend to and work. Please stop whining and understand my needs vantagejuan.....
nomorefear said:
Funny but I didn't say I was a noob. I do however not have all the time in the world because I do have a daughter to attend to and work. Please stop whining and understand my needs vantagejuan.....
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You realize that by dignifying his rant with a response, you've given it at least a small amount of validity.
Ignore him. That's pretty. no one I'd acknowledging his rant but you. Just let it go.
Also, check out evil eris in the coming days/weeks. I bet framework adds a lot more to it.
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You realize that by dignifying his rant with a response, you've given it at least a small amount of validity.
Ignore him. That's pretty. no one I'd acknowledging his rant but you. Just let it go.
Also, check out evil eris in the coming day/days. I bet framework adds a lot more to it.
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nomorefear said:
Funny but I didn't say I was a noob. I do however not have all the time in the world because I do have a daughter to attend to and work. Please stop whining and understand my needs vantagejuan.....
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you have to be careful on xda, many of these people have snobbish attitudes. there was no sense in that guy even making a response to you if he don't like your post except to be mean.
Fresh 3.5 is a great ROM and 4. 0 Will be out soon give it a look I think you will like it
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KaosFroyo, you don't need to partition SD cards to install apps to SD, Froyo does it automatically if set to install to SD.

Hey guys i just bought a galaxynote

I will like to know how i put recovery mod3 to the galaxy note and which rom should i install that is fast and save battery.....? Im fully rooted
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mallende1 said:
I will like to know how i put recovery mod3 to the galaxy note and which rom should i install that is fast and save battery.....? Im fully rooted
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You want touch CWM....
As far as what ROM...well once you have CWM touch on it....FLASH AWAY FLASH AWAY...
You decide what ROM is best for you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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Hold Volume up down and power. Vibrates let go off power few seconds later let go off volume.
mallende1 said:
Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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If you're gonna flash any ROM you will need cwm...see my links...kk
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CM9 is an awesome rom for it
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Twrp2.2 is even better than cwm these days... just made the switch this week myself, and I'm never going back.
As for roms, just read the dev section and pick the one that sounds like it would work best for you. They all have their pluses and minuses, so choosing one for you is kinda silly...
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Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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Ignore them. You don't want a touch version of CWM to start off with. With the regular version, you can't screw up. There's up, down, and select.
You'll want to start by looking at the stickies in the development section.
When you think your ready....ignore the pull of your beautiful device, and all this gadgety hacker, and do a search for " how to use titanium backup ". Download the app, and do a batch backup of " backup all user apps + system data". This will backup almost everything. Your wifi passwords, your wallpapers, your settings, and even where you are in games and apps (in 99% of cases).
The best money you can currently spend is arguably the pro version, which allows you to do batch restores-- I.e. when you wipe your phone or move to a new ROM, or Update to a new version of the ROM, you can restore all of your apps at once, or even pick and choose them. These apps and settings will be backed up to your SD card, which will be untouched during flashes, rom installs, rooting, etcetera. With the free version, you have to do them one by one. The pro version also let's you backup to BOX.NET, Dropbox, or Google Drive. If you look around you can find a way to get 50 gigs free of Drop box space, the most popular cloud storage service right now. This is a must....if you ever water log your phone, corrupt your SD card, or something else, you'll always have a backup. You can also schedule backups to run while you sleep.
But after a night or two of reading and watching YouTube videos, you can head into the abyss (you'll have our support. Pm me if you need, as I get notifications when someone does....and I'm usually quick to respond).
But just follow these steps until you have Recovery installed, and have made a backup of the whole system (also known as a Nandroid).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
After that, I'd recommend Flapjaxx ROM to start off with, because its a little like the Stock ROM, but has additional features that can be installed, or downloaded right from the phone. It also enables tethering.
Read here to freshen up join your terminology, but don't follow these instructions. The other ones seem easier to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483113
And lastly, here's FJ's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
A ROM isn't necessary, however, because you can also just root and use the stock one.
On the first thread I posted, you'll want to read up and follow the steps in this order (I recommend the non touch version of clockwork mod so you can understand how the UI works, before you use a version that requires mastering use of the unlit soft keys on the bottom of the phone, and also introduces a couple variables, accidental and non accidental touches. Up and down, and enter are easy enough, and will get you familiar without increasing the chance to screw something up. Theoretically, they're the same. But bear with me.
On the first thread, follow steps:
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4a.
5a.
6a.
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And then read the rest of the first thread. The second link I posted will help you decipher the language. Also, I'd spend the first two nights just reading, so you're COMPLETELY familiar with what you want/have to do. There are at least half a dozen flavours or Ice Cream Sandwich out, and you'll want to look in the development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1496
Last all of the different ROMs, the screenshots, the features, and the comments, to fin what people like. Don't read into the negative comments and the issues too much however, and don't let them discourage you, because most of the issues that people have you'll A) never notice, because yoiull still be learning by the time they're fixed, B) won't bother you because they only involve doing specific things, and C) could be avoided by following the instructions closely.
Lastly, look up YouTube videos.
Search for "root att galaxy note Odin"
"flash PDA Odin"
" how to use clockwork mod"
"How to use titanium backup"
"androidcritics". (This guy does rom reviews on YouTube...he's a little young, but generally is real thorough....find his YouTube channel, and you'll be able to see what the most popular ROMs look like when they're installed and running on our device.
Lastly, if you like a really clean device, consider CM9 as a ROM, which is built from Google's open source code, and is built the way that Google intended android to be....it has no bloat ware (aside from a few must-have apps that our wonderful developers have decided are best used with their ROM), and is built to be customizable. For the moment the non-CM9 ROMs have a larger selection of mods, customization, Widgets, and apps, but CM9 really takes the cake. There are a couple downsides to CM9 though, and if you want me to elaborate, or would like a suggestion on a CM9 ROM (I've used almost every ROM ever made for our device) PM me, and I can come back to this thread, or talk to you in private.
Lastly again: Seriously. Don't be in a rush. Watch a ton of YouTube videos, and each time you do something (make a backup, root, install clockwork mod) read each thread, or watch each video 3 times. Let it sink in overnight, and then read 1 last time to make sure you have all the prerequisite files, and understand all of the steps.
And lastly, lastly, there are something like 4 versions of the galaxy note, including the international one. Ours has specific software. Using other version of the not e's software, or root/ flashing methods WILL brick your device! Everything you need is here, in this branch of the forum (look for i717 in the upper left hand corner before you follow any instructions...only follow instructions from, and watch videos from people who use the term "At&t galaxy note", "rogers galaxy note", or "sgh-i717" (sgh-i717r is the same).
I understand this is a lot, but it's all important. Feel free to ask questions (in the Q&A section of course) and plenty of us will be there to help you. Some people might flame you for not searching, but if the information in those threads that I linked to isn't clear enough, or you need more information, ignore them and ask. Everything you need is in the threads I gave you.
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Jamesyboy good job...you have lots of great points...and great advice....
But don't tell user not to listen to users ideas our suggestions...just do like you did, give advice & suggestion...like the rest of us.... based on yours and others error....
It will fall on the individual to make the call.
Again...great job.
Btw all your suggestions links are on my GNote thread in the Gen section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
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This is the best thread so far!! I've read all the stickies and then some..... Still left me wondering, but that one clears everything up that I had to ask people (and they dont like questions for the most part on here I've noticed)
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This is the best thread so far!! I've read all the stickies and then some..... Still left me wondering, but that one clears everything up that I had to ask people (and they dont like questions for the most part on here I've noticed)
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What thread are you ref to?...
Hey you can always pm me...i may not know it all, and i don't but that's why we have contacts and friends list....to help and learn....that's what XDA is....a learning and providing forum.
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I like this site alot, don't get me wrong, just there's so many ways to accomplish it, there's no "set way" of doing it for a noob, just a million ideas and writeups.
I liked his post because it just said, heres a decent setup, not the best, not the worst (only thing I've ROMed so far, so just my speculation) and heres how you can get it done, play with it, learn, read more and do it again if you find another thing you'd want to try.
BOY THANKS A LOT FOR THIS I WILL CHECK IT OUT AND WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I START DOING STUFF SO APPARENTLY GALAXY NOTE IS GONNA BE VERY FUN WHEN I START LEARNING TO FLASH
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It is! I lmk if you need help

Custom Rom & Lose Features or Wait?

Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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XoomZoom said:
Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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Samsung is almost ready testing Jellybean for the S3, it will come out in about 6-8 weeks officialy. Maybe some leaked roms will pop up at Sammobile soon. If you only want to root for Jellybean i would not do it and wait for a little while.
If you want those features stock with Samsung based roms and wait for the official jelly, in the meantime check out a few custom s Samsung roms to keep the flash addiction happy
There's a few reasons I'd flash one of these roms on it. #1 being I for some reason am a massive vanilla android fan, and #2 being that I live in Australia and it will probably take them an extra 6 months to bring the official update here after it's released. Although, I did get the "Stability Improvement" update last weekend, a few weeks off the rest of the world, is that an indication of future updates being that quick also?
Thanks for your replies and I look forward to continue this thread to help me decide. One part of me is thinking how hard is it to touch the screen to stop it from sleeping, press a button to call someone, or use bluetooth to transfer files bigger than web pages. The other is saying what's the point of getting the latest and greatest smartphone to get rid of it's advertised features?
I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
slaphead20 said:
I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
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Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
XoomZoom said:
Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
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if you root then you can create a nandroid backup(complete system image) so I try different roms, if I like one I set it all up then do a nandroid, so if I want to try other roms and come back I just restore it, but now that this will lose your data between making that original nandroid and returning to it
Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
XDA was made for DEVELOPERS to come and collaborate together. It's pretty sad that people have become so entitled to think XDA is a community where you can demand things, ask stupid questions, and expect people to solve your issues for you.
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Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Nevertheless, you can compare your questions with other questions and answer them. Be it here or in other forums.
Because I do not think your question is "unique" and can not be answered with another question that has already been asked​​.
You must simply enter your title in Google and then you'll find massive pages, where the same or similar question has been answered.
Why I am so upset about it? I have already explained in my text.
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
JJEgan said:
This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Its getting a bit off topic but i dont actually disagree with your viewpoint . Its just a complete waste of time forum is what its users are and their is no way around a general lowering of standards apart from the mods saying bang bang .I gave up a long long time ago and now ignore many posts .
OP not included in the above .
jje
Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Try temasek's rom, it's fast and fluid and i rarely have launcher redraws. Google Now is suprisingly useful in all times.
Some people think they are mods, just report the threads instead of coming into every thread you think look useless lol.. Talk about waste of energy
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What is the kernel and how does it interact with a ROM

I'm currently using supernexus on my i-777 with whatever kernel it came with. I keep seeing 'siyah' come up in discussion as "fast and smooth" so I'm considering flashing it. However, none of my searches have retrieved any threads where 'kernel' is actually defined or discussion of how/why you would choose to change the kernel from the one the rom dev considers best in his rom.
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Here you go.
This is a very easy thing to research on your own. Google is yer friend. Lots of information on this.
In before lock!
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This is a very easy thing to research on your own. Google is yer friend. Lots of information on this.
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You know its funny. I searched in searched within xda and never once thought of just googling it. My bad.
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Hey, make sure to add at the end of your search query: xda
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sharonbw said:
You know its funny. I searched in searched within xda and never once thought of just googling it. My bad.
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I find it hard to believe that you searched xda at all. The first result of a basic "what is a kernel" search is an xda wiki article that explains exactly what it is in lay terms. Maybe you were searching for things like "where is the popcorn", I don't know. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't, which then leaves us with the only other possibility I can think of: no, you didn't do your research. So please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that you did.
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I find it hard to believe that you searched xda at all. The first result of a basic "what is a kernel" search is an xda wiki article that explains exactly what it is in lay terms. Maybe you were searching for things like "where is the popcorn", I don't know. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't, which then leaves us with the only other possibility I can think of: no, you didn't do your research. So please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that you did.
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nitox.n2o said:
I find it hard to believe that you searched xda at all. The first result of a basic "what is a kernel" search is an xda wiki article that explains exactly what it is in lay terms. Maybe you were searching for things like "where is the popcorn", I don't know. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't, which then leaves us with the only other possibility I can think of: no, you didn't do your research. So please don't insult our intelligence by claiming that you did.
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Wouldn't I actually be insulting my own intelligence by claiming I searched and didn't find what I needed? I'm quite sure you are much smarter than me.
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In before lock!
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LOL
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Don't hold your breath on getting any 'this kernel vs that kernel vs stock kernel' info in here either. I have yet to see anyone here taking a critical review of what each has to offer in comparison to any other, or in relation to each with stability, enabled capabilities, pro's cons, etc that isn't just self promoting. This is the first forum in XDA that I've found the majority of active users just flashing whatever is currently promoted as best without question. I assume the developers are more or less tired of the static and stay away, and I get that, I would too.
SoCalHTCFuze said:
Don't hold your breath on getting any 'this kernel vs that kernel vs stock kernel' info in here either. I have yet to see anyone here taking a critical review of what each has to offer in comparison to any other, or in relation to each with stability, enabled capabilities, pro's cons, etc that isn't just self promoting. This is the first forum in XDA that I've found the majority of active users just flashing whatever is currently promoted as best without question. I assume the developers are more or less tired of the static and stay away, and I get that, I would too.
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I understand that! I was almost one of the sheep but embarrassment got me to read pretty thoroughly (ok a lot was wikipedia) and decide I'm happy with whatever kernel Faryaab puts in his rom.
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SoCalHTCFuze said:
Don't hold your breath on getting any 'this kernel vs that kernel vs stock kernel' info in here either. I have yet to see anyone here taking a critical review of what each has to offer in comparison to any other, or in relation to each with stability, enabled capabilities, pro's cons, etc that isn't just self promoting. This is the first forum in XDA that I've found the majority of active users just flashing whatever is currently promoted as best without question. I assume the developers are more or less tired of the static and stay away, and I get that, I would too.
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The major reason there are no "this kernel vs that kernel vs stock kernel" threads is that they typically devolve into a bunch of pointless bickering and get closed by mods. After numerous times this has happened (no only on the i777 forums) they are now 'officially' not allowed and will get closed immediately.
At one point quite some time ago, someone started a thread that included a bunch of statistics to try to document more quantitively the differences between ROMs and Kernels - I think there was a set method of sending data to the OP of that thread, and it was being compiled into a spreadsheet. IIRC this was back in the GB days - the thread is probably buried deep in the general forum somewhere. Without some type of quantitative analysis/support, there are just too many individual variables (e.g. better/worse cell signal, set of installed apps, usage patterns, screen brightness settings, etc. etc. etc.) to really determine what kernel is 'better' than another. It is much more important for a kernel to be 'good' for an individual user's situation.
The best way to determine that, is to try one and see. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, we here at the i777 forums don't have a huge array of kernels to choose from so this individual testing is not particularly onerous.
Thank you dandrumheller, that was the best answer I've seen on here to date related to kernels! It explains why everyone is so incredibly evasive in offering any information.
SoCalHTCFuze said:
Thank you dandrumheller, that was the best answer I've seen on here to date related to kernels! It explains why everyone is so incredibly evasive in offering any information.
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Although that didn't actually answer my (op) question it sure explains a lot!!!
I answered my own question by googling - what I should have done in the first place!
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sharonbw said:
Although that didn't actually answer my (op) question it sure explains a lot!!!
I answered my own question by googling - what I should have done in the first place!
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Now that's what I like to hear.
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[Q] ROM that has SPEN Support?

As it says in the title. I want to use an aftermarket ROM like Cyanogen or even just an AOSP, but I don't want to lose support for the S-Pen. Can anyone recommend a good ROM? I keep getting the OTA notice from Verizon, but since my phone is rooted and I have a TWRP boot loader I can't update.
There are apps in the market that add spen support to all ROMs. I personally have tried a few non TW ROMs and found them lacking. But thats just me.
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Got any recommendations? I would like something that's quick and not bloated with excess apps. With my previous phones, mostly moto droids, I was a fan of the AOSP ROMs because of their simplicity and speed.
Please let's not turn this into a best rom thread.
Recommendations of roms end up in arguments. Thanks
Naddict said:
Please let's not turn this into a best rom thread.
Recommendations of roms end up in arguments. Thanks
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Wow so you're telling me that the people on this forum can't even handle a simple recommendation request without turning into 5 year olds on the play ground? That's pretty pathtic. So how would you recommend I go about getting a relative idea of which ROMs are worth looking at without spending time I don't have flashing every one of them to my phone? Let's at least give people the benefit of the doubt before treating them like kindergarteners.
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Wow so you're telling me that the people on this forum can't even handle a simple recommendation request without turning into 5 year olds on the play ground? That's pretty pathtic. So how would you recommend I go about getting a relative idea of which ROMs are worth looking at without spending time I don't have flashing every one of them to my phone? Let's at least give people the benefit of the doubt before treating them like kindergarteners.
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Read threads instead of creating new ones
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I'm remembering what made me stop coming to XDA in the first place. You people are assholes. Don't you think I did search? I found one thread related to ROMs and the S-Pen and it was unclear whether it was working in all ROMs or just certain ones. I still have no clue what apps enable the pen and thanks to the over the top moderators that act like the gestapo I can't even get a recommendation on what ROM to try. Forums are suppose to be here to help people. If you're tired of answering the same questions, don't. Just ignore them and move on. Someone who's more willing to be helpful will eventually answer it. We don't need your unhelpful snarky remarks to remind us how a forum works.

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