I am wondering if there is any bootstrap that works for this model of the S4? I have seen AT&T and Verizon threads with bootstrap and none about this device. I am interested in bootstrap because it doesnt trigger the knox counter when installing custom roms.
If anyone knows whether it would work on this device or not i would like to hear.
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We have an unlocked bootloader, and can flash roms and kernels (including AOSP) with custom recovery. Bootstrap is a waste of time unless your bootloader is locked. Who cares if Knox is tripped ;] carriers don't even care in my experience lol
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I am wondering if there is any bootstrap that works for this model of the S4? I have seen AT&T and Verizon threads with bootstrap and none about this device. I am interested in bootstrap because it doesnt trigger the knox counter when installing custom roms.
If anyone knows whether it would work on this device or not i would like to hear.
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Not at all clear what you are asking. Did you really mean S4 or is that a typo? And by bootstrap.. you mean Safestrap? Much of the interest in Safestrap is because the ATT and Verizon bootloaders are locked. So that was the only way to work with them for some time.
The S5 TMobile bootloader is not locked so Safestrap isn't so compelling an approach, although you might want to look at it for the ability to "multiboot" multiple ROM configurations. Or perhaps because it will preserve Knox in certain, specific configurations. But even then, as the poster above mentioned, less and less people care about Knox since warranty claims are usually done through the carrier, rather than directly with Samsung. And most carriers don't care about Knox. As well, Samsung ostensibly can't invalidate a warranty over Knox in the EU due to stronger consumer protection legislation.
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Not at all clear what you are asking. Did you really mean S4 or is that a typo? And by bootstrap.. you mean Safestrap? Much of the interest in Safestrap is because the ATT and Verizon bootloaders are locked. So that was the only way to work with them for some time.
The S5 TMobile bootloader is not locked so Safestrap isn't so compelling an approach, although you might want to look at it for the ability to "multiboot" multiple ROM configurations. Or perhaps because it will preserve Knox in certain, specific configurations. But even then, as the poster above mentioned, less and less people care about Knox since warranty claims are usually done through the carrier, rather than directly with Samsung. And most carriers don't care about Knox. As well, Samsung ostensibly can't invalidate a warranty over Knox in the EU due to stronger consumer protection legislation.
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I meant S5 yeah. But my buddy had an issue with his speaker failing and the first thing the carrier did was check the status and saw knox was tripped and refused to help him even though at the time he was running a non rooted stock ROM.
I havent had any issues in the past where I needed to use warranty but trying to prevent tripping it if I can. At the moment ive installed safestrap and it seems to work but I havent attempted flashing anything yet as im waiting for my ext SD and for safestrap to support multi boot, but im guessing since it goes into the safestrap recovery it probably works too.
My device is really the Canadian model but from my knowledge and history with the S3 and S4, if it works on TMO it works on mine too
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My device is really the Canadian model but from my knowledge and history with the S3 and S4, if it works on TMO it works on mine too
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Samsung will try to disavow a warranty over Knox. Most people do not deal directly with Samsung though, so what really matters in warranty claim is whether the carrier cares about Knox. Many people including at least one TMobile employee have posted that TMobile doesn't care.. making Knox almost an non-issue on TMobile.
It turns out that you're with one of the Canadian carriers, so you could search the forums or perhaps already know how your carrier handles Knox warranty claims.
Safestrap is an interesting approach, well supported by Hashcode. It has some advantages and some limitations as well. Given that a lot of us don't care about Knox and that TMobile's bootloader is unlocked, a lot of people are going to prefer a conventional custom ROM.
I'd like safestrap just because I don't have T-Mobile as my carrier I use it on at&t. Thus I cannot do a warranty claim through my carrier
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I currently have a VZW Galaxy S4 on 4.3 with a locked bootloader and I'm literally sick of not being able to flash anything without some stupid bootloader related error. I'm curious if it's worth looking for one with 4.1.2 whether it be T-Mobile or some carrier I've never heard of before and buying it and selling my current one so I can do what I want to with my phone.
Worth it or a waste of time/money?
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I currently have a VZW Galaxy S4 on 4.3 with a locked bootloader and I'm literally sick of not being able to flash anything without some stupid bootloader related error. I'm curious if it's worth looking for one with 4.1.2 whether it be T-Mobile or some carrier I've never heard of before and buying it and selling my current one so I can do what I want to with my phone.
Worth it or a waste of time/money?
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The money part is up to you whether it's worth it or not. The only thing I can tell you is make sure the phone you're getting is not on new KitKat. I know someone that has a tmobile s4. Those can be rooted with recovery regardless of what Android version, however if its on KitKat and you try to flash anything it trips to Knox counter and voids warranty and there is no going back. It also prevents you from ever receiving OTA's again making resale value garbage. Consider another brand altogether. Look here: http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
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The money part is up to you whether it's worth it or not. The only thing I can tell you is make sure the phone you're getting is not on new KitKat. I know someone that has a tmobile s4. Those can be rooted with recovery regardless of what Android version, however if its on KitKat and you try to flash anything it trips to Knox counter and voids warranty and there is no going back. It also prevents you from ever receiving OTA's again making resale value garbage. Consider another brand altogether.
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Well I'm not really concerned about the Knox counter or OTA stuff as if i could use a custom recovery i could just flash the stuff without the need of waiting 3 more months for some crappy carrier to release it with their bloatware filled bulls***. & on other brand topic I would just buy a Nexus 5 if not for it's incompatibility with Verizon but thats really the only other phone I can think of that really intrigues me besides the S4.
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Well I'm not really concerned about the Knox counter or OTA stuff as if i could use a custom recovery i could just flash the stuff without the need of waiting 3 more months for some crappy carrier to release it with their bloatware filled bulls***. & on other brand topic I would just buy a Nexus 5 if not for it's incompatibility with Verizon but thats really the only other phone I can think of that really intrigues me besides the S4.
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There are many reports circulating that the Nexus 6 will be on Verizon. So try to hold out.
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If the developer edition is bought directly from HTC's website, does that mean, despite the unlocked bootloader, it still has a valid warranty? I wouldn't have to anything except flash a custom recovery, right? Does AT&T's network place nicely with the developer edition?
That is a really good question. HTC technically reserves the right to void a warranty for any phone that has the bootloader unlocked, and yet this phone comes from the manufacturer BL unlocked. In practice it seems (from reports on XDA, at least) that HTC's enforcement of their policies is inconsistent at best. I've seen reports of unlocked bootloader is ok (warranty still honored) but custom ROM is not (even if returned to stock ROM, there apparently is some mechanism to tell if a custom ROM was ever installed); some reports of modding ok since the failure was hardware related, and other stories.
I suppose you can raise the question to HTC. But what they tell you, and what actually happens in practice may end up being two different things.
As far as compatibility with AT&T's network, from my understanding the hardware is exactly the same, just a non-AT&T branded ROM and bootloader unlocked. So it should work just fine on AT&T's network.
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That is a really good question. HTC technically reserves the right to void a warranty for any phone that has the bootloader unlocked, and yet this phone comes from the manufacturer BL unlocked. In practice it seems (from reports on XDA, at least) that HTC's enforcement of their policies is inconsistent at best. I've seen reports of unlocked bootloader is ok (warranty still honored) but custom ROM is not (even if returned to stock ROM, there apparently is some mechanism to tell if a custom ROM was ever installed); some reports of modding ok since the failure was hardware related, and other stories.
I suppose you can raise the question to HTC. But what they tell you, and what actually happens in practice may end up being two different things.
As far as compatibility with AT&T's network, from my understanding the hardware is exactly the same, just a non-AT&T branded ROM and bootloader unlocked. So it should work just fine on AT&T's network.
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Thank you for your response. Yeah, after using Samsung devices for years, I kind of got use to them haha. I wasn't sure if HTC had a knox like warranty. Hopefully it performs well on AT&T, some have stated the signal is about average. I know with the T-Mobile Galaxy S5, for example, the reception was not has good as AT&T's own S5. That's why I ask. Sometimes the carriers optimize their devices so that they work better than unlocked devices.
Hardware-wise, the AT&T and DevEd phones are identical. The radio firmware is different, but I haven't noticed any particular difference going between the original AT&T radio (original stock firmware without any OTA's) and either of the two DevEd radio firmware's (original radio firmware and the radio firmware on the DevEd OTA.)
In terms of the warranty, HTC reserves the right to not honor the warranty for either of the model if the phone is modified. Being that the bootloader is already unlocked on the DevEd, that's not considered a modification. (On the AT&T device, unlocking the bootloader IS a modification.)
In actual practice, I've never seen a phone manufacturer void a hardware warranty for software modifications -- unless the manufacturer had good reason to believe that the software modification caused hardware to fail. (For example, a processor burns up from overclocking, screens that developed defects from being over-driven, etc.)
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Hardware-wise, the AT&T and DevEd phones are identical. The radio firmware is different, but I haven't noticed any particular difference going between the original AT&T radio (original stock firmware without any OTA's) and either of the two DevEd radio firmware's (original radio firmware and the radio firmware on the DevEd OTA.)
In terms of the warranty, HTC reserves the right to not honor the warranty for either of the model if the phone is modified. Being that the bootloader is already unlocked on the DevEd, that's not considered a modification. (On the AT&T device, unlocking the bootloader IS a modification.)
In actual practice, I've never seen a phone manufacturer void a hardware warranty for software modifications -- unless the manufacturer had good reason to believe that the software modification caused hardware to fail. (For example, a processor burns up from overclocking, screens that developed defects from being over-driven, etc.)
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Thanks. This is exactly what I wanted to hear. I re-ordered the Developer Edition in Gold. Should be here tomorrow. It's seem like very promising device. May not even root it.
Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Bootloaders have been locked down on samsung devices for a long time. Tmobile was lucky enough to have them open. This will never happen.
this is the end..
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Never happened with the Note 3 despite similar petitions, likely never going to happen with the S7 either. I do agree that if you own the phone outright (not on a lease from AT&T) then you should be able to do as you please with it and once you completed the lease then you should be allowed to unlock the bootloader.
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Never happened with the Note 3 despite similar petitions, likely never going to happen with the S7 either. I do agree that if you own the phone outright (not on a lease from AT&T) then you should be able to do as you please with it and once you completed the lease then you should be allowed to unlock the bootloader.
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I would like to say that technically through ATT it is not a lease, it is a payment plan. That would be like buying a house or a car not leasing in which case they are both considered yours right off the bat. Yes you are making payments on it but if the deal is done properly you will never return the phone to ATT making it yours, unlike a lease.
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I would like to say that technically through ATT it is not a lease, it is a payment plan. That would be like buying a house or a car not leasing in which case they are both considered yours right off the bat. Yes you are making payments on it but if the deal is done properly you will never return the phone to ATT making it yours, unlike a lease.
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That is a very good point, however I can at least understand with AT&T that until you pay for that phone in full it is not considered yours. I would not be surprised if they have something in the fine print on the Next plan that says something to that effect. Note - I do agree with you entirely, I am paying for a phone and should be able to do whatever the heck I want with it.
If you're going to write a petition to these companies, you should run it through a proofreader and spell check. Nobody will take that seriously written the way it is. Also, if you want it to gain more traction, you should probably share it in the Galaxy S7 subreddit as well at www.reddit.com/r/galaxys7.
Don't think it will happen with Samsung Pay. They are very protective of it.
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With no upgrade availability for any of the phone numbers on my account, I paid full price for my S7 Edge, so I own my phone outright and want the bootloader unlocked!
What happens when this reaches 1500? With a locked bootloader aren't things such as root and safestrap still feasible?
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What happens when this reaches 1500? With a locked bootloader aren't things such as root and safestrap still feasible?
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Yes root it possible. Not sure about safe strap.
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Yes root it possible. Not sure about safe strap.
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Root is still a longshot and I'd go as far as saying that safestrap won't happen at all. Look at the past, the AT&T S6 barely got root, still doesn't have more than like 2 ROMs, and is entirely dependent on one root method that supports two specific builds and an app called Flashfire. Samsung, on behalf of the carriers, is doing everything in their power to make rooting and custom ROMs an impossible feat. With that being said, let's take a look at the AT&T Note 5. It still has just received root from the same people who are supporting root on the S6 (from what I've seen, PingPongRoot was born and died with an earlier S6 build). The majority of the big devs who used to put in the work for supporting Samsung devices have all jumped ship to devices that aren't as heavily locked down. Unfortunately, I think the dev scene for Samsung devices that aren't the international or T-Mobile versions is pretty much dead (even the Tmo Note 5 isn't getting much love). The only redemption here is that the S7 uses a qualcomm processor, not an exynos, which is much more heavily documented, meaning that if someone is able to crack open the bootloader, the ROMs (and more importantly, the kernels) will be much easier to build. This is all just my 2 cents, I hope someone does accomplish the unthinkable and achieve all of this, but in the meantime, if you want to stick with Samsung, buckle up and enjoy the stock touchwiz. You'll probably be on it for a while.
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Root is still a longshot and I'd go as far as saying that safestrap won't happen at all. Look at the past, the AT&T S6 barely got root, still doesn't have more than like 2 ROMs, and is entirely dependent on one root method that supports two specific builds and an app called Flashfire. Samsung, on behalf of the carriers, is doing everything in their power to make rooting and custom ROMs an impossible feat. With that being said, let's take a look at the AT&T Note 5. It still has just received root from the same people who are supporting root on the S6 (from what I've seen, PingPongRoot was born and died with an earlier S6 build). The majority of the big devs who used to put in the work for supporting Samsung devices have all jumped ship to devices that aren't as heavily locked down. Unfortunately, I think the dev scene for Samsung devices that aren't the international or T-Mobile versions is pretty much dead (even the Tmo Note 5 isn't getting much love). The only redemption here is that the S7 uses a qualcomm processor, not an exynos, which is much more heavily documented, meaning that if someone is able to crack open the bootloader, the ROMs (and more importantly, the kernels) will be much easier to build. This is all just my 2 cents, I hope someone does accomplish the unthinkable and achieve all of this, but in the meantime, if you want to stick with Samsung, buckle up and enjoy the stock touchwiz. You'll probably be on it for a while.
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I agree with you. The real kicker for me is what T-Mobile is doing, which is my carrier. Almost every device on tmo had the ability to get root and be unlocked. But they are getting on board with Verizon and AT&T and requested devices be locked down. Then they lie to us and say it's the manufacturers. They had them lock down the LG g5, which LG always gave us a unlock method,.garbage.
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dubbactrumpetmsu said:
If you're going to write a petition to these companies, you should run it through a proofreader and spell check. Nobody will take that seriously written the way it is. Also, if you want it to gain more traction, you should probably share it in the Galaxy S7 subreddit as well at www.reddit.com/r/galaxys7.
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I agree with you, I would love to sign a petition and I'm glad someone started one, but this petition has too many mistakes to even count. I doubt any company is going to take it very seriously. No disrespect intended to the person who wrote it, but it needs to be re-written.
Best hope for us is for the mandatory arbitration clause to go away. That would enable a group of users to sue when a locked bootloader prevents them from upgraded their phone. Older phones are susceptible to vulnerabilities because AT&T doesn't continue to roll out updates and the locked bootloader prevents you from updating the phone on your own.
I could be wrong, but I think this could be a pathway.
In the history of these sites and smartphones I don't think any company has ever unlocked the bootloader for any petition, and there have been plenty of them. I don't think they ever will. As much as I agree that it shouldn't be locked, especially if you outright own the phone, this is just a lost cause.
This thread about an app called "crom" in China is interesting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page24
Posted in the Sprint S7 edge forums. I guess the China varient is able to have its bootloader unlocked with this app...
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This thread about an app called "crom" in China is interesting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page24
Posted in the Sprint S7 edge forums. I guess the China varient is able to have its bootloader unlocked with this app...
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China's bootloader isn't as locked down as ours in the states is...[emoji30]
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I'm interested in the GS9 plus.
I have a the Verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan and would like to maintain my current functionality. I am wondering if the 9 plus fits the bill.
I would like to enable the hotspot without paying a monthly bribe to Verizon.
I would like to continue to use my banking apps with fingerprint login
I would like to continue to enjoy add blocking built in .
if this phone fits the bill what version is best all round ease of rooting and hardware specs.
other than that I don't really care about any other limitations like loss of warranty.
I understand Samsung pay will stop working, its fine I don't use it.
IF you have any recommendation on roms or just tips and tricks I'm all ears.
Thanks
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I'm interested in the GS9 plus.
I have a the Verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan and would like to maintain my current functionality. I am wondering if the 9 plus fits the bill.
I would like to enable the hotspot without paying a monthly bribe to Verizon.
I would like to continue to use my banking apps with fingerprint login
I would like to continue to enjoy add blocking built in .
if this phone fits the bill what version is best all round ease of rooting and hardware specs.
other than that I don't really care about any other limitations like loss of warranty.
I understand Samsung pay will stop working, its fine I don't use it.
IF you have any recommendation on roms or just tips and tricks I'm all ears.
Thanks
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You have to get one that is factory unlocked.. If you go carrier unlocked, bootloader is locked and you SOL.... Try to find one that has bootloader unlock and check with verizon first to see if it will work on their network.. I have the unlocked version on T-Mobile, and it works great so far.
Getti g it from ebay. How can i confirm factory unlocked and how can i tell it works with verizen.
Oh ny the way which processor is better snap dragon or exynos?
johnny_chimpo said:
Getti g it from ebay. How can i confirm factory unlocked and how can i tell it works with verizen.
Oh ny the way which processor is better snap dragon or exynos?
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You need to find out from seller which firmware it has. If its say G965U it is network unoc. G965U1 is factory and bootloader can be unlocked.
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You need to find out from seller which firmware it has. If its say G965U it is network unoc. G965U1 is factory and bootloader can be unlocked.
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does it need the U1 or just the U??
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You need to find out from seller which firmware it has. If its say G965U it is network unoc. G965U1 is factory and bootloader can be unlocked.
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Do not spread false information. G965U1's bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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Do not spread false information. G965U1's bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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Thats not what I hear. They are suppose to be factory unlocked. If not blame someone else.
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Thats not what I hear. They are suppose to be factory unlocked. If not blame someone else.
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Being factory unlockable and bootloader unlockable are two different things. Factory unlock (or "unbranding") just means you can use any SIM card on it without problem. Bootloader unlock means you can flash custom signed images like TWRP, kernels, etc...
All USA models ("U" and "U1") have bootloaders unlocked, without any free way to unlock.
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Being factory unlockable and bootloader unlockable are two different things. Factory unlock (or "unbranding") just means you can use any SIM card on it without problem. Bootloader unlock means you can flash custom signed images like TWRP, kernels, etc...
All USA models ("U" and "U1") have bootloaders unlocked, without any free way to unlock.
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So what model should I get that has the bootloader unlocked how do I check and where can I find or ask ther seller to provide this information.
Im trying not to make an expensive mistake here.
thanks for steping in!
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So what model should I get that has the bootloader unlocked how do I check and where can I find or ask ther seller to provide this information.
Im trying not to make an expensive mistake here.
thanks for steping in!
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Well, it's a little complex
If you want the easiest root method, the model you should look for is the one that ends with F (G960F/G965F) which are the international, Exynos variants. I think you can find quite a few good ROMs and kernels here and there. I doubt that Verizon would be able to block mobile hotspot, but I can't say for sure because I am not on a Verizon contract and don't know how they do it. But be aware that they're Exynos, some people completely hate Exynos, but I don't think they're as bad as people make them out to be.
The US variants are G960U/U1 and G965U/U1. These are Snapdragon variants. They have bootloader locked so you can't flash things like TWRP or a custom kernel. You can root, but the root method is much harder than the F variants, and have much more limitations. For example, biometrics like FP reader will always be broken. You should look up Extreme Syndicate root method on xda to see what you're getting yourself into. The only good thing about the root method is that knox won't be tripped.
I think there are Korean (or somewhere in the Asian market), Snapdragon variants that can be bootloader unlocked so you get the best of both worlds, but I have no experience using them and don't even know what their model numbers are
I don't know how your bank apps work, so I can't say if you will still be able to log in with your FP.
So, I've got a couple of Note 3s set up for my kids to use. I need to keep Knox to get the advantages it gives to Boomerang parental controls. I need root for running Xposed modules. Since 3g is going away, I'm scrambling to find newer devices.
I've been looking at the S8 and S9 and their variations. I found some S9+s in good condition for a reasonable price. They are the G965U1 running Android 10 on bootloader v9. My understanding is that they should work with T-Mobile or AT&T for voLTE and also for wifi calling on T-Mobile.
I've been reading a lot, but can't find definite answers to some questions.
Do these factory unlocked phones support voLTE and wifi calling or do they have to be branded by the correct carrier?
Can they be rooted on v9 bootloader without tripping Knox (Extreme Syndicate)?
Does anyone want to test Boomerang parental controls' Knox features on a device with Knox already tripped for me? If The Knox features still work, this would be the very best solution, but the app developer said they can't answer as to whether it will or not. The developer said to just try it. I'm not ready to lay out hundreds for a test that might leave me with a device I have to replace again.
It looks like originally you needed to downgrade to Android 8, but then some also update to Android 9. I prefer to have Android 9 or 10, but have read some saying that the system can't be downgraded from 10, which would leave unlocking the bootloader (and tripping Knox) as the only option for root. So what's the real deal?
I've also looked into the s5 and a few others, but like the idea of something with a newer Android for all comparability. Willing to look at anything that will work, though.
I appreciate any help.
If you trip the Knox e-fuse, Knox is gone forever unless you replace the mobo.
Both 9 and 10 are reasonably secure, 8 and below less so.
The Note 10+ 12gb ram, 4G Snapdragon variant is a gorgeous workhorse of a phone. The display is still one of the very best for color rendering and viewing. New ones can be had for $800 still, used for much less. New ones are loaded with 10, but used ones are likely updated to 11 unless you can confirm otherwise. Exercise caution as there's a lot of misinformation and outright scamming going on with used phones.
As for voLTE support it depends on the carrier and the model. My new unlock N10+ works on AT&T but some models especially older ones may not. Check with your carrier to see what models they support.
Whatever Samsung you choose I would recommend that you keep it stock. You can use a package disabler to easily tone down a stock Samsung... rooting isn't necessary.
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If you trip the Knox e-fuse, Knox is gone forever unless you replace the mobo.
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I understand that tripping the counter cannot be undone. Are you saying that third-party software that uses Knox cannot run after it is tripped, even if the Knox software remains? There seems to be evidence to the contrary.
Both 9 and 10 are reasonably secure, 8 and below less so.
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This is part of why I prefer to use 9 or 10, but other concerns are more important.
As for voLTE support it depends on the carrier and the model. My new unlock N10+ works on AT&T but some models especially older ones may not. Check with your carrier to see what models they support.
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Both carriers list these generic models (S8,S9,etc.) but don't specifically list branded or factory unlocked model numbers. Some people have had problems in the past trying to use an AT&T branded phone, carrier unlocked, on T-Mobile, specifically wifi calling not allowed. My bigger concern is now that 3g is being phased out; will voLTE work on each carrier with a factory-unlocked phone? Is there a way to use wifi calling on a factory-unlocked phone?
Whatever Samsung you choose I would recommend that you keep it stock. You can use a package disabler to easily tone down a stock Samsung... rooting isn't necessary
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How do you propose that I run X posed modules without rooting?
I just know that members here have issues with bank apps on rooted phones. Haven't paid that much attention to that problem but Knox's status is easily available if the banking app wants check it.
My unlocked Note 10+ was added to the AT&T network by simply swapping out the sim from my other AT&T 10+. Boom, that's all I had to do to set it up. Obviously AT&T will need to punch you out a sim card for the new phones. Talk to Advanced Tech support at AT&T to get a firm answer about voLTE support. If it's just the unlocked model of the variant they sell it will likely work.
The only way you can run some apps is to be rooted. So if you're hell bent on a specific app that requires root... can't have your cake and eat it too.
My kids don't need banking apps. They do need to be able to place and receive phone calls after 3g goes away next month.