I've been reading up on my phone as I tried to root it with saferoot oblivious to what knox was however it failed to root and I am running 4.3 however there is no trace of knox anywhere on the phone is there anyway I can check if I tripped the knox counter and voided the warranty? thanks :silly::silly:
hazza990 said:
I've been reading up on my phone as I tried to root it with saferoot oblivious to what knox was however it failed to root and I am running 4.3 however there is no trace of knox anywhere on the phone is there anyway I can check if I tripped the knox counter and voided the warranty? thanks :silly::silly:
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No you can't check because there is no knox on 19300
There's no knox on the s3? sweet!:laugh::laugh:
hazza990 said:
There's no knox on the s3? sweet!:laugh::laugh:
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Does this mean I can flash a custom rom and if it needs to go back to sammy I can just reflash the stock 4.3 back on and there will be no evidence?
hazza990 said:
Does this mean I can flash a custom rom and if it needs to go back to sammy I can just reflash the stock 4.3 back on and there will be no evidence?
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No you need to flash back to stock and use triangle away to set your flash count to zero but that's pretty easy to do >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114 <<
Sweet XDD
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I am sure this is posted but I cannot find the answer but how do I root a stock NAB note 3 without triggering knox? if you have a link I'd really be appreciative.
xtrezpasor said:
I am sure this is posted but I cannot find the answer but how do I root a stock NAB note 3 without triggering knox? if you have a link I'd really be appreciative.
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I'm afraid you can't. The only way to root note 3 without triggering knox was kingo root, but it only worked for 4.3 and no longer works for 4.4 (tried it about a week ago)
you could root 4.3 then upgrade to rooted 4.4 without triggering knox, but i think it's too late for that now for you
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I'm afraid you can't. The only way to root note 3 without triggering knox was kingo root, but it only worked for 4.3 and no longer works for 4.4 (tried it about a week ago)
you could root 4.3 then upgrade to rooted 4.4 without triggering knox, but i think it's too late for that now for you
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Thanks, do you know the easiest way i can root then even trigging knox? as i'm not really sure what knox is for anyway since i dont use the phone for anything but personal use
xtrezpasor said:
Thanks, do you know the easiest way i can root then even trigging knox? as i'm not really sure what knox is for anyway since i dont use the phone for anything but personal use
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This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
leond said:
This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
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I dont have tep ... so basically i'm all in and i'm off contract so i can always just buy a new phone through sprints easy pay worst case but thank you!
leond said:
This should do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655450
P.S. Triggereing knox will cause your phone to display message about warranty being void on boot. Effectively this voids your warranty with Samsung. People say that Sprint until now did not do much trouble about servicing phones with knox warranty bit tripped. This can change any time.
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Can't change anytime. Root is allowed been for yrs! Read this thread follow link I added to it. To educate your self on sprints policies http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674884
Sent From My 0x1 Note 3.i love tep....
If you trip knox, can you still flash anything you want, modem, kernel, etc. I just have to ask, because i read that if you trip knox you will no longer be able to flash a modem or kernel. I sorry if this was asked but i tried to google search and really did not come up with anything to support it or deny it.
thanks
Opps just realized i posted this in general section and not question; Mod please move to question section
Thanks
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
Nyagu said:
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
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i know i can always revert to stock and i can not reset knox counter. I just want to be sure that if i do something that trips knox that i can still load whatever i want modem , kernel etc.
galaxyuser88 said:
i know i can always revert to stock and i can not reset knox counter. I just want to be sure that if i do something that trips knox that i can still load whatever i want modem , kernel etc.
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Flashing kernels, custom recoveries, and boot loaders WILL trip Knox. That's why people don't do it. After Knox is tripped, you don't have to worry about flashing anything you want. Knox just show's if you've flashed something. Once it's tripped, it does not limit what you can flash or not flash.
People are just careful not to flash kernels or bootloaders or custom recoveries so as to not trip Knox. They are worried they will not get warranty work on the phone if Knox is tripped.
Nyagu said:
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
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Flashing kernels, custom recoveries, and boot loaders WILL trip Knox. That's why people don't do it. After Knox is tripped, you don't have to worry about flashing anything you want. Knox just show's if you've flashed something. Once it's tripped, it does not limit what you can flash or not flash.
People are just careful not to flash kernels or bootloaders or custom recoveries so as to not trip Knox. They are worried they will not get warranty work on the phone if Knox is tripped.
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ok great. I am just experimenting with flashing w/ mobile odin pro and seeing what i can get away with. I am sure eventually i will trip knox, but righ now i am trying to avoid it. Just had me worried when i read that tripping knox will cause you not to be able to flash modem or kernel anymore.
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ok great. I am just experimenting with flashing w/ mobile odin pro and seeing what i can get away with. I am sure eventually i will trip knox, but righ now i am trying to avoid it. Just had me worried when i read that tripping knox will cause you not to be able to flash modem or kernel anymore.
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I don't know where you read that but I wouldn't go back to that site. Knox is long ago tripped in my phone and I've flashed tons of ROMS Modems, Kernels, etc. I got the TMO S5 because it's bootloader isn't locked and I can flash what I like. I use it on AT&T btw.
Enjoy playing with and flashing your phone. Hit thanks if I've helped.
Will I be able to download Ota's if I root and trip knox?
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Will I be able to download Ota's if I root and trip knox?
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Just rooting your S5 will keep you from getting OTA updates. But you can always odin your updates. Taking OTAs is dangerous for many reasons. It's better not to take them and find out what all they've changed by watching what happens to other peoples devices. Plus, if you use Mobile Odin Pro you can inject root and SU when you update.
Good luck with it.
If I've helped, please hit the thanks button.
So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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evoshift617 said:
So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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No you have to be rooted to use mobile odin on your device. Mobile odin pro just injects root if you decide to update to a newer firmware using mobile odin pro.
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So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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Use pc odin to flash an ota that works with towel root. After that get mobile odin pro. Use mobile odin to flash all ota. You dont need to flash bootloader. Tho im on nh5 with an nh5 bootloader. Also this method will not trip knox.
I assume when android L hits, you will need to upgrade the bootloader to that version first, then use mobile odin to flash android L on the device.
Some one correct me if im wrong on that.
im sure some people know about this but a lot don't so I wanted to post this link to a thread that's buried here regarding flashing custom touchwiz roms without tripping knox. http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/help/flash-tw-custom-rom-tripping-knox-t2892774
basically you can get a debloated custom rom with aroma installer and not trip knox. Its no cyanogenmod but I prefer touchwiz anyway . this works with neatrom and alliance rom apparently. I have not tried it but there are many who have with other variants
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
chiquito3 said:
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
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You cannot root NH5 software directly with towel root, but there is a thread that shows exactly step by step how to downgrade to a version that towel root will root and then go back to the latest. This procedure does NOT trip Knox. Knox is tripped anytime you load a custom recovery or kernel.
So, if you just want root so you can run Xposed and Wannam and what not, that's not a problem and you can odin back to stock if you need to for a return. Look around here on the TMO S5 threads and you'll find all this hashed over and over.
Good Luck!
Hit thanks if I've helped.
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Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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Yes you can root your phone but you will have to roll back the firmware back NE6 and then use towel root. Once you do that, then you can use pc odin to flash the nh5 firmware and use mobile odin pro to flash the NH5 software back onto your phone and retain root. Just remember that you will not trip knox using the method above, but if you flash a custom recovery or non tmo s5 kernel you will trip knox. There are a few threads here that you help you root and upgrade to keep root. Make sure you read thru some of the rooting threads before you do anything to your phone, It is your responsibility to make sure you know how and what your are doing when flash your phone, We are not responsible if you forget to read or flash something that is not for your type of phone, if you brick your phone or if you trip knox. Also Remember that if you do trip knox, there currently is no way to reset the knox counter, so please Do Not Ask.
Have fun and read before you decide to do anything to your phone..
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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chiquito3 said:
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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First Question is do you have premium handset protection? If so then I wouldnt worry about Knox at all. Handset protection covers everything including running over your phone with a car . I have had devices that I didnt have insurance on in the past when I was a NOOB that had the warranty flag tripped and never had any problems at T-Mobile with replacing it . T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person . It doesnt cost them anything like it would having to repair cracked screens etc... I have the S5 G900T and I rooted while I was still in the T-Mobile store buying it LOL . The sales guy told me their was no way to root it at the time (which he was wrong ). Anyway I understand kind of why you wouldnt want to trip knox but at the end of the day it really wont matter if tmobile is your carrier . There really isnt a difference between a tripped phone and one that isnt when it comes to getting it replaced . I know this from experience and many many others on XDA will tell you the same .
spirodave said:
T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person ..
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It's my understanding that the KNOX security flag is a electronic fuse. Once tripped it's burned to 1 state and a "re-flash" won't repair that.
That said, I could see T-Mobile taking it back because of the value of the replaceable parts, including an intact display. Enough profit is made on the extended protection plans that T-mobile could grind them all up and use them for fancy pavement surfacing. I've yet, for example to replace "anything" under an extended service plan. I get them to be careful, but there's been plenty of $$$ for those plan providers.
Extended service plans? Total and absolutely guaranteed profit for vendors.
galaxyuser88 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
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I read the towelroot thread but it does not say anything on how to downgrade firmware version.
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hI THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
1. DOWNLOAD G900TUVU1ANE6 FULL STOCK TAR FROM HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358541270
2. uNZIP THE FILE AND FLASH IT USING PC ODIN. WHICH YOU CAN GET HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. ROOT WITH TOWELROOT . TOWELROOT IS HERE https://towelroot.com/
4.DOWNLOAD MOBILE ODIN PRO FROM THE PLAYSTORE IT WILL COST YOU AROUND $6
5.DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST STOCK TAR TMB-G900TUVU1BNH5 FROM SAMMOBILE OR FOR A MUCH FASTER LINK GET IT HERE https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
6. UNZIP THE FILE AND COPY IT TO YOUR SDCARD OR INTERNAL STORAGE ON YOUR PHONE.
7. USING MOBILE ODIN PRO CHOOSE THE OPEN FILE SELECTION AND THEN CHOOSE THE FILE THAT YOU COPIED TO THE PHONE
8. IGNORE THE WARNING FROM MOBILE ODIN REGARDING KNOX. IT WONT TRIP. TICK EVEROOT AND INJECT SUPERSU FLASH THE PHONE .
YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED UPON ONCE IT RESTARTS AND ON THE NEWEST FIRMWARE.
YOUR BOOTLOADER CAN NOT BE UPGRADED BY MOBILE ODIN. THAT CAN BE FLASHED SEPERATELY BY USING PC ODIN.LOOK FOR THE BOOTLOADER FILE IF YOU WISH TO UPGRADE IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO INSTALL AT THIS POINT. MOST OF THESE FILES CAN BE FOUND HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 OR HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715487
IF YOU CANT FIND SOMETHING USE GOOGLE.
FINALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE IS SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I WOULD READ THESE THREADS BEFORE DOIN G ANYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/nh5-stock-rom-ur-phone-to-stock-t2901732 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...all-updatetmb-g900tuvu1bnh5-size-1-5-t2873090 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
LASTLY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT XPOSED DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH THE S5 IT BREAKS PRIVACY MODE S HEALTH CAUSES LAG AND IS ONLY USEFUL ON DALVIK. ONCE ANDROID L IS RELEASED . IT WILL BE USING THE ART ANDROID RUNTIME WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPOSED .
HAVE FUN!
My att note 3 is giving me too much trouble with gps. I'm giving up on it. Thinking about getting the tmobile s5 instead of att for the unlocked bootloader. I'm just trying to find myself root and recovery guides but I don't see them .. Please point me in the right direction
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Here you go.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+root+the+T-Mobile+galaxy+s5
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blackknightavalon said:
Here you go.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+root+the+T-Mobile+galaxy+s5
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The reason I asked on here is because I was hoping for something better, more "official" on xda than just some Googled sites... people brick phones over things they get from the Internet
optimusv45 said:
people brick phones over things they get from the Internet
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Well...XDA isn't a telegraph service.
blackknightavalon said:
Well...XDA isn't a telegraph service.
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What do you mean ? I looked up what telegraph means, and can relate it to what we are talking about ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723994
I think I found what I was looking for
optimusv45 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723994
I think I found what I was looking for
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not sure about other methods of rooting, but I'm pretty specific in avoiding the breakage of KNOX... if you're the same, here's an up-to-date guide to root and keep KNOX at 0x0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-s5-firmware-knox-0x0-t2909352
dimm0k said:
not sure about other methods of rooting, but I'm pretty specific in avoiding the breakage of KNOX... if you're the same, here's an up-to-date guide to root and keep KNOX at 0x0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-s5-firmware-knox-0x0-t2909352
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With this you'll still need to odin the recovery. So exactly trigger knox ? I think I'll just odin the recovery, not bother with rooting the stock rom, and just flash a rom
optimusv45 said:
With this you'll still need to odin the recovery. So exactly trigger knox ? I think I'll just odin the recovery, not bother with rooting the stock rom, and just flash a rom
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Odin the recovery? no... if you're on the latest ROM already, all you do is Odin the NE6 kernel given in the post, run towelroot, verify root, Odin NK2 kernel back and bam! rooted the latest NK2 ROM with KNOX intact.
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Odin the recovery? no... if you're on the latest ROM already, all you do is Odin the NE6 kernel given in the post, run towelroot, verify root, Odin NK2 kernel back and bam! rooted the latest NK2 ROM with KNOX intact.
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I understand how the method works. It's like they can't root the latest kernel or something so revert back for root and come back. My point is if your final goal isn't just a rooted stock phone, there is almost no point in this ? Because since the phone doesn't have a looked bootloader you can just odin a recovery and flash a rom without rooting first
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I understand how the method works. It's like they can't root the latest kernel or something so revert back for root and come back. My point is if your final goal isn't just a rooted stock phone, there is almost no point in this ? Because since the phone doesn't have a looked bootloader you can just odin a recovery and flash a rom without rooting first
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well yeah, no point in this if you're looking for more than a rooted stock phone...
Nice, this is my first time getting a tmobile device. So tired of att lock down. Can't wait for a real recovery on a good phone
Bump so I can find this easy in a few days.m
It doesn't really matter since knox can't be restored (0x1)
But I'm curious if anyone ever tried triangle away with galaxy alpha (G850F) ?
I did try it with kitkat and manage to reset flash counter to 0. (knox still 0x1)
but since upgrading to lollipop, triangle away no longer work, even returning to kitkat it no longer work.
I wonder what's changed during lollipop upgrade ?
ayamgoreng said:
It doesn't really matter since knox can't be restored (0x1)
But I'm curious if anyone ever tried triangle away with galaxy alpha (G850F) ?
I did try it with kitkat and manage to reset flash counter to 0. (knox still 0x1)
but since upgrading to lollipop, triangle away no longer work, even returning to kitkat it no longer work.
I wonder what's changed during lollipop upgrade ?
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New knox bootloader is the reason. I do not know if earlier kitkat bootloaders had the evil feature, where it
burns an e-fuse upon tripping the counter. But it is definitely present with new bootloader.
PS :: Can anyone tell if we can downgrade to kitkat from lollipop on alpha ? thanks.
sasank360 said:
New knox bootloader is the reason. I do not know if earlier kitkat bootloaders had the evil feature, where it
burns an e-fuse upon tripping the counter. But it is definitely present with new bootloader.
PS :: Can anyone tell if we can downgrade to kitkat from lollipop on alpha ? thanks.
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if you mean flashing kitkat from lollipop using odin ?
yeah it work. make sure you wipe data,cache,dalvik after, or bootloop will happen.