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ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
good questions. i'd like to see these answered too
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
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Welcome to the world of Android! We hope you enjoy your stay ^__^. While I don't have a TBolt myself, I think any user opinion is good. Phone's auto updating is rare, like extremely rare, but I have seen it on some of the lesser model phones. I don't think you need to worry about it though. The free hotspot app however may be noticed and tagged as a tether as big red gets their chubby fingers around the few apps they are missing.
To root or not to root, that is the question.....or is it! The answer is up to you. If your comfortable with it than root it! All rooting will do is give you superuser ability, and the ability to flash custom roms/kernels/mods. If you want to keep the stock rom, than all you need to do is flash and nothing more. Rooting your phone doesn't auto flash some random rom. Roms are typically not built with an auto updater, so you only need to reflash a rom if you want to change roms or update to the newest version. I would say I flash at least an image a day on my Dinc. Once your rooted, regardless of the rom, I would suggest downloading some backup software (Titanium Backup or it's like for TBolt) and of course a tethering app, whether you want wired or wireless is up to you. Once you root, you lose your connection to big red's update servers and so you never have to worry about an update that returns you to stock like you do with i<anything's>.
Happy flashing!
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ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Tbolt just got netflix last week for stock users.
Even if you are not going to flash a custom ROM right now, I would root.
Reason being that rooting requires you to flash old firmware so your phone gets wiped. Better to do it now, then that way you can use apps like Titanium backup.
fxb141 said:
ok, here i am... in the android world, after many years of winmo - and i must say wow, i was missing a lot! i just bought a thunderbolt as a replacement for my htc touch pro2 (which was running stock, only after i broke my old one and didnt take the time to re do it again)
what i could do on my tp2 was run hotspot app PROVIDED by HTC (not sure why or how that slipped through big red's net) but it was free, no tethering/hotspot fee needed.
i like my TB (but not the bloatware) and am currently refusing all updates till i make my mind up on rooting. right now - kernel 2.6.32.21.gb05544a dated march 1, 2011 and the software number is 1.13.605.7. my guess is that since i bought it from amazonwireless, big red hasnt updated it, and it sat on the shelf at amazon for a bit. either way, the hotspot app still works for free.
my questions:
1. if i continue to refuse, can i assume that one day i will wake up updated or find my phone automatically updating without my permission?
2. if i root (before this big scary update happens) will my phone automatically go back to a stock rom, only with superuser access where i can remove bloatware manually and install a wifi hotspot app, or will i have to flash to a rom?
i am familiar with flashing windows mobile phones, flashed my past 2 devices to the newest software (had my tp2 before 6.5 was released for that phone, so flashed to 6 before big red officially released it). but it didnt need constant 'attention' once it was flashed. i used to fool around with sat boxes that did need constant attention and monitoring and waiting for charlies next emp, then scrambling to reflash. that was a pain.
3. will my rooted TB need constant attention or will i be able to tootle around without a care, only flashing when someone releases a rom that i might want to try out or some big release <gingerbread> is ready for rooted phones?
thanks for your time!
PS: I have read that people cant use netflix app on TB - i downloaded it, and it works fine for me. i am stuck in 3g land until next winter, but i would think that 4g would rock... just FYI in case anyone cares.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are OTA's that can't be rooted.
What rooting your phone will do is install a new stock ROM which means it will wipe your whole phone. From there you can flash up to anything you want. Don't do rooting the lazy way. Use the ADB process and do it right. If you have a problem along the way, you'll be very glad you did it that way because you'd end up getting into ADB to fix any problem anyhow. Plus, jcase and other at andirc.net are very helpful.
If you root you will end up with whatever ROM is used during the root process. If you go to the development threads and to the stickied rooting instructions it will show you what RUU is used for the rooting process.
If you havent updated your phone you might even find that the ROM you get after rooting might be a newer version of the one you are using. If you want to stick with that ROM you can and just debloat it yourself or find another debloated ROM out there.
Once rooted you can use it similar to how you used your stock phone with no extra maintenance steps needed. If you start flashing nightlies or alpha/beta ROMs then you will start needing to monitor your phone for behavioral problems more.
There are no OTA's that cant be rooted. When an OTA comes out and you are rooted you should wait on flashing it as you would loose root if you did but in just a few days the dev's will create a rooted version to flash. Those OTA's will then be started to be used as the base for new ROMs.
Root! Root! Root!
As far as requiring tinkering as has been mentioned just rooting alone won't change a whole lot for your regular experience. The fun comes in trying out new ROMs. Some of the ROMs out there are very stable and once installed shouldn't need a whole lot of tinkering either (unless you get the FLASH habit that so many seem to develop and decide to flash a new one every day *wink*).
I rooted and installed Thundersense 1.5 onto mine, it's pretty nice. While I am running into some problems with bluetooth audio, having root capability means I can actually tinker with the phone's settings to try to fix issues instead of waiting forever for Verizon/HTC to push out another update that may or may not resolve whatever issue I have.
Not rooting is like driving around in a sports car with a parachute tied to the back.
Just do it.
When you root following Jcases method in the dev section you end up with a bone stock 1.13.605.7 with root. You might still get prompted for updates if you stay on the stock build but DO NOT ACCEPT if rooted. It will just cause problems and you might lose root or worse. I havent heard of Thunderbolts updating themselves but I have heard of Evos, I belive, that did. (according to users posts) So you never know but I belive something to do with Clockwork Mod Recovery(A custom recovery for android that you install after rooting.) will cause the update to fail anyway. As I understand it right now all OTAs can be rooted BUT the Gingerbread update will apparently close all known exploits to get root when it is released. There will always be rooted versions of the stock OTAs posted in the dev section you can flash if you want the newest updates and to be rooted. Of course there are lots of custom ROMs for the Thunderbolt to try out that are fast and stable. So I say root. It takes some reading and learning if you are new to it but its will worth it.
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rooted and reloaded software
Thanks all for your advice! I successfully rooted my TB and it only took a few minutes to reload my apps and get it into working order. netflix is jumpy now, but could be the connection - going to mess with that some. not a big loss anyway - more of a 'wow, thats cool' than useful.
appbrain and HTC Sync with outlook contacts worked great for quick 'restore'
another question though - i am trying to remove the bloat and things like vcast and vznav will not let me uninstall. what is the best way to do this? i know i am rooted - barnicle works and has superuser access.
also, any good cooked sense roms that someone can recommend? not looking for one that constantly needs attention, just some cool things like cpu under/over clocking ability, and if SOMEONE would get a ford sync app that i could use voice command to text over sync - that would rock too!
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
that's awesome. i was think this very thing. I'm sold, I'm rooting.
orkillakilla said:
Synergy ROM is my ROM of choice. It's based on the newest GB leak for the Tbolt, and has Sense 2.1 with Sense 3.0 features, so I find it less laggy than full on Sense 3.0 ROMs, and Ziggy's kernel (included in the ROM) works great with no SetCPU needed. It's worth a try. You can find a link to the download in my sig.
Happy flashing!
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Thanks, I would probably try this ROM - Is there anything i would need to change on my stock everything, no updates, no frills TB - like, will i have to update the radio before flashing?
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
fxb141 said:
I must say, i love the synergy rom! it seems fast and really rocks! I did have to update my stock base version radio MR1 to MR2.5 so i had service. flashing went great. many kudos to each and every post i read with regard to rooting, flashing, radios and roms!!! yes, i am a lurker, but thanks all around!
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Glad everything worked out and that you are enjoying Synergy. Don't be afraid to try other ROMs though. I've flashed almost every rom out there and decided to keep synergy.
Sent from my HTC GingerBolt powered by the lastest Synergy ROM
Too many horror stories for me to root just yet. However I get multiple update demands from verizon every day which is driving me crazy, and today was the first time it actually tried to update itself without permission. I just happened to open my phone at work and saw it trying to download the update on its own. There was no way to cancel it either, I had to reboot the phone immediately to make it stop. It has yet to reappear, but we'll see what happens.
Rooting isn't worth it. Most of the ROM's out now are just plain awful (some people have no taste).
What are these horror stories you speak of?? I haven't heard of one person brick their phone rooting and that's the only horror story I can think of involving rooting. It's actually a pretty easy process if you just read up on what you are doing first.
As for the claim all the ROMs suck...well everyone if entitled to their opinion but there are Froyo sense and de-sensed ROMs, Gingerbread sense and de-sensed ROMs, and AOSP ROMs. You can have sense 2.1, 3.0, or no sense. Lots of themes to choose from if you want them. I don't see how that list is any different from any other HTC phone. That is not even including the fact that a lot of them greatly improve performance and batery life.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
I'm pretty down with the HTC One I just recieved yesterday, but the only thing that is bothering me is all this stupid junk AT&T stuck in there. The fact that I cannot tether either is a bit disheartening. I see there are a few ROMS in the developers subforum, but I haven't been able to check them out yet. Do any of those roms fit that description and if so, which one is the LEAST modified?
I've been using Android Revolution HD 6.0 from the international forums. Certain ROMs do work on our AT&T variants. It has basically everything that the standard Sense has, with tweaks. No AT&T bloatware. I've also been getting pretty awesome battery life. You may want to check it out.
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Sorry, here's the link to the page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
If you do decide to try it, make sure to read the entire original post before you do. There is instructions in there about using the volume buttons to select items in the Aroma installer. If you don't, your install may freeze.
I'm hoping we'll be able to flash our AT&T Ones to turn them into the same thing as the Developer Edition that's sold directly by HTC. I've been keeping on eye out for news of this becoming reality but haven't seen anything so far...
ranphi said:
I'm hoping we'll be able to flash our AT&T Ones to turn them into the same thing as the Developer Edition that's sold directly by HTC. I've been keeping on eye out for news of this becoming reality but haven't seen anything so far...
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if you have an unlocked bootloader its basically the same thing as the dev edition. and once we have S-OFF we will be able to flash official RUU's to the phone
Would the De-odexed ROM allow me to remove the crap AT&T put on the phone? If so, this will probably be the route I'll go, well, as soon as I get my extra dropbox space anyway.
Daman09 said:
I'm pretty down with the HTC One I just recieved yesterday, but the only thing that is bothering me is all this stupid junk AT&T stuck in there. The fact that I cannot tether either is a bit disheartening. I see there are a few ROMS in the developers subforum, but I haven't been able to check them out yet. Do any of those roms fit that description and if so, which one is the LEAST modified?
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Can't you use the tool kit (in the Android Development section) to root and uninstall via Titanium? I've always done that with stock roms in the past.
aipaloovik said:
Can't you use the tool kit (in the Android Development section) to root and uninstall via Titanium? I've always done that with stock roms in the past.
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Nope the System partition is write protected, so once you reboot all the crap comes back.
+1 for ARHD 7.0, running flawlessly. I'm totally new to Android and flashing ROMs, the ARHD dev and the threads over in the international forum make the whole process easy to learn. I played with the phone for about 2 hours before I became completely fed up with the AT&T claws dug into every aspect of the software, coming from an iPhone I had not realized how bad the bloatware problem has become.
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+1 for ARHD 7.0, running flawlessly. I'm totally new to Android and flashing ROMs, the ARHD dev and the threads over in the international forum make the whole process easy to learn. I played with the phone for about 2 hours before I became completely fed up with the AT&T claws dug into every aspect of the software, coming from an iPhone I had not realized how bad the bloatware problem has become.
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Yeah, what really got me was that even after a day or two of using the phone, the AT&T Address book sync message would still pop up. I had already declined it and stopped any syncing to it. Then, to top it off, after I had already been on several long calls using the phone, the CityID message pops up saying that I'm now in a trial period? It made me decide to go ARHD without a regret. De-bloated, stable, and battery is great for me.
Also went with ARHD. Working wonderfully so far.
Everyone can flash Int'l ROMs with no trouble. ARHD is a great ROM with a great Dev. Give it a try. A make sure you read before you start complaining about LTE signal strength.. The official ATT ROMs fake your signal to make it look better than it is. The Int'l ROMs are the actual strength.
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Everyone can flash Int'l ROMs with no trouble. ARHD is a great ROM with a great Dev. Give it a try. A make sure you read before you start complaining about LTE signal strength.. The official ATT ROMs fake your signal to make it look better than it is. The Int'l ROMs are the actual strength.
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Thanks for the tid bit!! I'm thinking about this ROM as well. The only thing I really need though is Wifi Tethering. Do you know if it can do it without paying AT&T for it? I'm sure some ROMS will have it soon enough. I would even use FOXFI if it would work.
With the ONE I just can't seem to get around AT&T. I'm in the ball park like many others who think tethering should be free. I get the whole "you are paying just for your phone service" and not your laptop or ipad and such; I just don't agree with it, so won't ever pay for it. I'll pay for MP3's, I'll pay for Apps, I just don't think I should line AT&T's pockets for something I already pay for "DATA".
Ok Rant Over. I got out of control there. I apologize.
dmjlabelle said:
Thanks for the tid bit!! I'm thinking about this ROM as well. The only thing I really need though is Wifi Tethering. Do you know if it can do it without paying AT&T for it? I'm sure some ROMS will have it soon enough. I would even use FOXFI if it would work.
With the ONE I just can't seem to get around AT&T. I'm in the ball park like many others who think tethering should be free. I get the whole "you are paying just for your phone service" and not your laptop or ipad and such; I just don't agree with it, so won't ever pay for it. I'll pay for MP3's, I'll pay for Apps, I just don't think I should line AT&T's pockets for something I already pay for "DATA".
Ok Rant Over. I got out of control there. I apologize.
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With ARHD you can turn on Mobile Hotspot and everything I just don't know if ATT will pick up if you're using it. I know with CM, I've used tethering and ATT never said a thing to me. So I'm guessing use it till they send you something.
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Everyone can flash Int'l ROMs with no trouble. ARHD is a great ROM with a great Dev. Give it a try. A make sure you read before you start complaining about LTE signal strength.. The official ATT ROMs fake your signal to make it look better than it is. The Int'l ROMs are the actual strength.
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I'm having one problem with the stock international deodexed rom. Apparently, I cannot install purchased apps. It downloads, then says it cannot be installed on USB or SD card...
any solutions?
dmjlabelle said:
Thanks for the tid bit!! I'm thinking about this ROM as well. The only thing I really need though is Wifi Tethering. Do you know if it can do it without paying AT&T for it? I'm sure some ROMS will have it soon enough. I would even use FOXFI if it would work.
With the ONE I just can't seem to get around AT&T. I'm in the ball park like many others who think tethering should be free. I get the whole "you are paying just for your phone service" and not your laptop or ipad and such; I just don't agree with it, so won't ever pay for it. I'll pay for MP3's, I'll pay for Apps, I just don't think I should line AT&T's pockets for something I already pay for "DATA".
Ok Rant Over. I got out of control there. I apologize.
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I posted a ATT Wifi hotspot mod in the dev section yesterday for stock/rooted (deodexed or odexed)
Also - I may be off base, but as far as debloating is concerned, we should be able to do this with an updater script in a recovery flashable package where it's just deleting the packages we don't want. As long as it's done in recovery it should stick on reboot. If we want to start a list of what should be removed, I can put a script together to remove them via recovery and we'll see how it works. (Edit - Working on it now)
Edit: well it removed them from /system/apps, but a few are still showing installed. Guess we'll have to get rid of the data they've created as well? Still playing... either way i managed to get these out of /system/app/:
ATT Device Help, Address Book Sync, Amazon Kindle, CityID, Drive Mode, Family Map, Hot Spot (ATT's), Locker, Messages (ATT's), myATT, navigator (ATTs), Promo Widget, Ready2go, SmartWifi, YPmobile
Sill playing..
Edit: Almost there...
Running Renovate on my AT&T HTC One and it is great. You guys should check it out. Clean rom with AT&T bloat removed, great battery, and some great tweaks.
homeslice976 said:
I posted a ATT Wifi hotspot mod in the dev section yesterday for stock/rooted (deodexed or odexed)
Also - I may be off base, but as far as debloating is concerned, we should be able to do this with an updater script in a recovery flashable package where it's just deleting the packages we don't want. As long as it's done in recovery it should stick on reboot. If we want to start a list of what should be removed, I can put a script together to remove them via recovery and we'll see how it works. (Edit - Working on it now)
Edit: well it removed them from /system/apps, but a few are still showing installed. Guess we'll have to get rid of the data they've created as well? Still playing... either way i managed to get these out of /system/app/:
ATT Device Help, Address Book Sync, Amazon Kindle, CityID, Drive Mode, Family Map, Hot Spot (ATT's), Locker, Messages (ATT's), myATT, navigator (ATTs), Promo Widget, Ready2go, SmartWifi, YPmobile
Sill playing..
Edit: Almost there...
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Here it is. A flashable package that will remove all the ATT bloat described above. Let me know if anyone runs into any issues, or see anything that's not getting removed that should be. I recommend wiping cache and dalvik after flashing.
Im running stock Odexed AT&T rom from JMZ found in development section with Thoravukks Kernel from international HTC one found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229300 which allowed me to delete all of AT&Ts bloatware from the rom since the kernel Naw read and write. Plus Modaccos xposed framework which allowed me to remap the menu button to the back button by long pressing it. And let me say its running beautifully. No issues at all everything works. Plus i get to keep my AT&T signal icons which i prefer.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
Fidelio_o said:
Im running stock Odexed AT&T rom from JMZ found in development section with Thoravukks Kernel from international HTC one found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229300 which allowed me to delete all of AT&Ts bloatware from the rom since the kernel Naw read and write. Plus Modaccos xposed framework which allowed me to remap the menu button to the back button by long pressing it. And let me say its running beautifully. No issues at all everything works. Plus i get to keep my AT&T signal icons which i prefer.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Yes. This can absolutely be fixed by flashing a different kernel. This is for those who prefer a fully stock experience, minus the bloat.
homeslice976 said:
Here it is. A flashable package that will remove all the ATT bloat described above. Let me know if anyone runs into any issues, or see anything that's not getting removed that should be. I recommend wiping cache and dalvik after flashing.
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Thanks tons! Looks like all the AT&T crud is gone! Totally appreciate this. So far no issues.
And no bloat returns after 2 reboots.
Just wondering, is this 100% uninstall?
Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).
doubleojerbo said:
Hey guys,
So as the title suggests, this will be my first time rooting any phone. I attempted to root my HTC Inspire 4G, nearly bricked it, and kinda gave up on the whole thing.
Now, with my HTC One loaded with unecessary AT&T apps and other stupid bloatware, I find myself in the same position. I know there are many guides for rooting the One, but are there any that are particularly newbie-friendly? Also, I understand that after rooting, OTA updates are impossible. My question is...is 4.2.2 available currently? What about 4.3? And most importantly, how easy/difficult is it to install an update?
Thanks guys. This whole thing has me moderately excited, and equally freaked out (really really like this phone and DON'T want to brick it).
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If you have never rooted, an HTC device is probably a little intimidating compared to other manufacturers.
Now, if you just get a guide and follow it to a t, you'll be fine.
You can always get thr phone back to a stock state if you want an ota update, buy if you are running a custom rom, that dev will typically update that particular rom with the ota update.
Hope that helps
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
if i can help....
i am new to android (iphone convert)...HTC ONE is my first droid device.
i had an iphone 5, Jailbroke it, was lovin life but needed a bigger screen.
HTC One, AT&T, 4.1.2 android
anyhow, i myself was in the same boat as you last week.
my main gripe with the stock HTC one is the fact that you cannot "wake up" the phone any other way
except for the power button. so annoying- it was driving me crazy.
also i have unlimited ATT data plan, and so my wifi tether was dead, and wanted to mod for that as well.
anyhow, i was on the fence regarding rooting my phone, but then i
finally ran into the BULLETPROOF kernel thread here at XDA, and i had to have it.
as i began to research my quest to brick my phone, i ran into this guy on youtube: qbking77
he has some great videos on youtube that will give you the exact instructions and directions on
what you will need to do to root your HTC phone.
His English is easy to understand, he has a support webpage/blog with links to everything you need, very very good and easy tutorial, probably what convinced me to do it.
so here are the steps that he gives:
#1. UNLOCK BOOTLOADER HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7vi388dMk&feature=youtu.be
#2. ROOT INSTRUCTIONS HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRkAHw_GmIs
BAM!...you are done rooting.
He uses TWRP (custom recovery), and TWRP has been an easy interface for me, no gripes.
so, anyhow, after you have gone through those steps, if I can suggest a couple other things I ran into.
one of the main reasons I was wanting to root my phone, was to install the bulletproof kernel.
this kernel allows for you to “swipe to unlock” your HTC phone.
it’s super cool, and that was the first thing I wanted to install.
I went ahead and installed it, happy as can be…
everything seemed cool, but after a day or so, went to open my camera,
and what do you know, black camera death screen, NO CAMERA!
I was like WTH, ???
jumped back in the forums (guess I should have researched a little further)
and I am not sure why, or what the deal is, but there is a glitch with the kernel and 4.1.2 android version. some people were fine but there are a lot like me and had the camera error.
so long story longer,
I ended up trying to re-install every single bulletproof rom version that was available,
still no luck.
finally i PM'd another user on these forums, he said he installed the ANDROID REVOLUTION HD (4.2.2 ROM)
i went ahead and installed, then I installed the bulletproof kernel m7-3.4 (for 4.2.2)
and what do you know, 100% just fine, absolutely sweet.
only other thing I’ve done was install the ULTIMATE RIT_ARHD_12.1 (HD icon them package)
and man, my phone has a whole new life, and I am absolutely loving it.
anyhow, hope that helps,
those qbking77 vids are the best thing to use in my opinion,
(oh and qbking77 has a vid to install "free wifi hotspot for the HTC ONE"....took all but 5 minutes and that was the icing on the cake!)
good luck!
AJ
Welcome
I am not big into posting on XDA because I typically found my answers either here or on YouTube. As 9aj9 stated, look up qbking77 on youtube and follow his videos. They are very straight forward. On top of what 9aj9 stated, I also S-OFF and SuperCID. The following videos explain what S-OFF and SuperCID mean and how you get them.
S-OFF - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4BWxtjaamM
SuperCID - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcYRNMq3YQ
I am personally running Stock Rooted Google Edition (link below), but I have flashed several things. It is all personal preference once you get rooted. Wish you the best of luck!
Stock Rooted GE- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360608
id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?
downhillrider said:
id like to throw my post in here if I could. I bought a factory unlocked One from htc.com and thought I was going to get updates from htc. They recently told me I still had to wait for updates from my carrier (att). with this bit of news Ive decided I want to put a stock google 4.2 on my one. Are these instructions posted above good for me to use? sense is something I can do without, has someone made a rom with 4.2 with sense as well?
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I have the ViperOne rom, it's 4.2.2 and Sense 5....
Best advice is take a step back and give it a few days. You will absorb everything there is in time. And if you **** up it Can be fixed ^_^
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9aj9 posted the very videos I used to unlock my bootloader and root mine, thats exactly what I would have posted,,
And if you want a good rom to run that 4.2.2 use this one with Sense 5 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
its close to stock with little tweaks here and there and its ALL I have been using. The Dev Mike1986 updates it rather often!
Plus if you are alittle worried at the moment, I would recommend keeping it simple and not worrying about SuperCID and S-off...while I to am both of these things, it isnt really necessary
You don't need to be rooted to wake your device with something beside the power button.
I use 'Power On Volume' and my volume button wakes my device. I use a different app that allows me to lock my HTC One with a touchscreen button.
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Awesome!
I picked up the HTC One a few days ago from AT&T (coming from iOS). Like 9aj9, some things were finicky like not being able to wake the phone other than the power button, I can see the gripes with the volume button placement and are easily triggered. I got a slim case to give me space away from the volume rocker.
Anyway, I was going to flash to the Home2Wake kernel, but the bulletproof kernel sound even better! However, seems it's most stable if Android Revolution HD ROM in installed (is that the right word?).
So, I have one question before I proceed - can I revert the HTC One to stock 4.1.2 after flashing to Revolution ROM? I'm asking because I am still within the return window and would like the option of getting it back to stock if I wanted to return it.
Im pretty certain u can revert, when u go through qbking77's vids, i believe he has a vid in reverting back to stock.
But one main thing is u have to run a full backup once u have TWRP installed....
aj
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I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?
bustedukulele said:
I was wondering about firmware. I just got my ATT One and I saw a lot of users are flashing the newest firmware.
Is this necessary and if so, what order do we do it in? Flash the firmware after Root?
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Not needed. The firmware that comes with the phone works on 4.2 roms also (the old If it isnt broken dont fix it comes to mind here ). Some of us just like to have the latest greatest everything so I did the firmware update as well, but like I said, its not necessary.
Also, when installing a 4.2 rom keep in mind that the file system will be different as 4.2 has support for multiple users.
Maybe I caught you before you went ahead and rooted, but it was honestly a piece of cake. I pretty much followed what 9aj9 wrote (thread 3). If you follow qbking77's videos, you can't go wrong. I used a W7 machine, even thought I usually use a Mac, but qbking77 used a W7, so I was able to do each step exactly. I did download the most recent SuperSU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053) instead of the older version form the site.
Anyway take your time, make sure you have a few hours. Also, realize you will lose everything when you unlock the boot loader. I backed up most things with Helium, but you have to re-install all the apps, Helium just backs up the data.
I decided to come back from WP, mostly because the phone I have lacks an LED notification light (yeah, it's a big deal for some of us).
Anyways, I picked up an Amaze 4g off of ebay at a decent price, but would like to return it to stock before I decide about custom ROM's and such.
I have a reasonable amount of experience flashing ROM's on other android phones, and so on, but I've never used the Amaze and it's already on CM. Basically, I just want to make sure I know the basic approach of flashing it back to "stock", while maintaining the ability to root and unlock it.
Here is the current description:
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 1.15.550L.....
Kernel 3.0.57......
Cyanogen Ruby 10-20130728 Nightly
I'm basically just hoping someone could politely nudge me in the right direction on how to approach this. If it had been my phone from the start, I'd be very comfortable, but I honestly don't know where to start when it's one I've never used, but already unlocked, rooted, and on CM . Is the amaze even fully supported and bug free on CM?
Regards,
BB
bladebarrier said:
I decided to come back from WP, mostly because the phone I have lacks an LED notification light (yeah, it's a big deal for some of us).
Anyways, I picked up an Amaze 4g off of ebay at a decent price, but would like to return it to stock before I decide about custom ROM's and such.
I have a reasonable amount of experience flashing ROM's on other android phones, and so on, but I've never used the Amaze and it's already on CM. Basically, I just want to make sure I know the basic approach of flashing it back to "stock", while maintaining the ability to root and unlock it.
Here is the current description:
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 1.15.550L.....
Kernel 3.0.57......
Cyanogen Ruby 10-20130728 Nightly
I'm basically just hoping someone could politely nudge me in the right direction on how to approach this. If it had been my phone from the start, I'd be very comfortable, but I honestly don't know where to start when it's one I've never used, but already unlocked, rooted, and on CM . Is the amaze even fully supported and bug free on CM?
Regards,
BB
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is it S On/Off?? supercid?
ravike14 said:
is it S On/Off?? supercid?
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It arrives tomorrow, but as it's an unlocked, t-mobile branded model (that has proof of running on AT&T as well), and is on Cyanogen already, I would expect that it is either both already, or capable of doing both without an issue.
I will post back when I check if S-Off is set to permanent, and if supercid is currently installed. I assume root and CWM are a given, but I'm not familiar with the custom kernels and basebands for the Amaze, so aside from what I posted above I'm not sure I know what is considered stock at the firmware level, and what is considered custom, or if it matters when it comes to the Amaze.
Hopefully I can return to at least to a stock ROM and go from there, so I know that everything works as it should, before thinking there's a defect that is really just a bug related to how the previous owner set it up. I should have asked him to set it back to stock + S-off/root, but the price and condition were right, so I didn't want to ask for more than what I paid for.
Thank you,
--bb
bladebarrier said:
It arrives tomorrow, but as it's an unlocked, t-mobile branded model (that has proof of running on AT&T as well), and is on Cyanogen already, I would expect that it is either both already, or capable of doing both without an issue.
I will post back when I check if S-Off is set to permanent, and if supercid is currently installed. I assume root and CWM are a given, but I'm not familiar with the custom kernels and basebands for the Amaze, so aside from what I posted above I'm not sure I know what is considered stock at the firmware level, and what is considered custom, or if it matters when it comes to the Amaze.
Hopefully I can return to at least to a stock ROM and go from there, so I know that everything works as it should, before thinking there's a defect that is really just a bug related to how the previous owner set it up. I should have asked him to set it back to stock + S-off/root, but the price and condition were right, so I didn't want to ask for more than what I paid for.
Thank you,
--bb
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well if it worked with AT&T it means its been super cid to super cid it has to be S OFF thats my guess , well if its s off all you have to do is run a RUU and you'll be in stock firmware
ravike14 said:
well if it worked with AT&T it means its been super cid to super cid it has to be S OFF thats my guess , well if its s off all you have to do is run a RUU and you'll be in stock firmware
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Thanks for your help!
Update:
Yep, it was s-off, super cid, and 4ext, all ready to go. Thanks again. I'm not used to HTC so I wanted to be extra careful and know what to look for. CM 10 didn't allow for BT calls, which is odd, but a deal breaker because I pretty much only use BT for voice, so stock is working out very nicely. Sense is actually better than I expected, or at least the modified Afnan tweaked one I installed. It's very fluid, and has good access to the controls I need. I had to tweak all of my other devices a lot more, to get the same functionality. I slapped on Nova launcher, tweaked it a bit, and I'm really liking the Amaze.
The one odd thing is that BT is terrible if I have the phone more than about 3 inches from my head. I'm guessing my case has issues, but haven't tested it without it yet.
K, Here's a little background. I've been using HTC Products for years. Kinda stuck on them. Way back when the HTC ONE Max was released I purchased 2 through Sprint VIA the upgrade Program. One for me, one for my wife. She preferred Samsung so I boxed hers back up, and well, forgot about it until last night when going through my dresser. I am going to activate it on my account, and retire my old one and just use it on a spare line I have ( now that my oldest son has his own plan ) for data, etc. I want to make some changes to it, and since its been soooooo long since I have rooted or used custom rom's. I am hoping some of you guys can help me out. There isn't much activity here for this phone right now, mostly folks having issues or looking for the cheap way. I am not concerned with dropping $25 on viper if needed, I'm all for ease. What I really need is advice on what methods to use to achieve my goals. Basically I don't care if I run stock rom, or custom. I just want to eliminate all the bloatware, Be able to tether the phone for wifi, and be able to access and use certain apps that require rooting. That's basically it. If I need to flash a custom rom, fine, so be it. What are the most stable roms out there for this phone that are still receiving updates. I have really tried using the search function to find the current procedures to S-off, root etc, but its pretty much a mess out there searching for current stuff, as many threads go back years. Hopefully this thread can kinda be a current guide to help folks like me that really like there Max's, at least till the next HTC Phablet comes out ( if ever ).
I would really appreciate any help you phone Guru's can give, especially since this is probably such a low demand device right now.. It would be really awesome if someone could post step by step, and include links to current info/downloads..The phone in question is running 4.4.2, Sense version 6.0, Software version 3.03.651.3
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!
Root; Sunshine to s-off and then TRWP and viper rom with sense 7