I am currently going through a process of getting a restraining order on a girl that has made threats against my family, my girlfriend, etc. And I need a call recorder in case she calls me. (The county attorney has already said that texts cannot be used. As anyone can pick up a phone and act like her.) I am rooted and I have Xposed installed on the GPE. Thanks in advance!
Ghstudent said:
I am currently going through a process of getting a restraining order on a girl that has made threats against my family, my girlfriend, etc. And I need a call recorder in case she calls me. (The county attorney has already said that texts cannot be used. As anyone can pick up a phone and act like her.) I am rooted and I have Xposed installed on the GPE. Thanks in advance!
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I've used this one. It worked great
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorder
Did the attorney say its okay to record the calls? Laws may vary by locality. But my understanding in many places its not legal to record a phone call unless the other party is informed you are doing so.
You might already be aware of the legalities. But just wanted to raise the question, in the event you were not.
redpoint73 said:
Did the attorney say its okay to record the calls? Laws may vary by locality. But my understanding in many places its not legal to record a phone call unless the other party is informed you are doing so.
You might already be aware of the legalities. But just wanted to raise the question, in the event you were not.
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They actually said to let it go to voicemail.
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So I think I've done enough research to have an idea of why recording the incoming voice stream is so damn elusive and difficult. Basically, it seems that it's an access issue between the baseband processor and the application processor.
So here's my question/idea: Doesn't the app processor have some level of access to the incoming voice stream by virtue of the fact that the stream can be sent to the headset jack, speaker, or even a bluetooth device at will? If the stream cannot be intercepted when going to the standard ear piece, can it perhaps be intercepted via whatever mechanism is diverting the stream to the various types of output?
For example, maybe we could develop a virtual bluetooth device. Similar to a virtual DVD drive in widows. There's no real physical drive, but the driver makes windows think there is and it can be used to mount ISOs... Well, same concept - make a virtual bluetooth device that android thinks is a physical device, and use whatever existing mechanisms to divert the audio stream to the virtual device. Then of course, the back-end for the virtual bluetooth could simply send the sound back to the handset whilst recording the audio stream.
I'm still an Android dev n00b, so coding this would take me quite some time. But what do you veterans think? Does this sound plausable/impossible/stupid? Maybe someone's thought of this and it didn't work out for whatever reason?
Thanks
Im not a dev by any means but I wish you luck I would love to have call recording on the Atrix. I can have it on the Cap ONLY on I9000 ROMs, had something to do with one of the eurasian Galaxy S models shipping with a call recording feature baked in to the "Dialer" app and the devs ported that dialer to I9000. Afaik it wont work w CM7 so I cant use it even tho I still have the flashable zip on my sd. Maybe if you change your post title to say you are wanting to dev for call recording you would get more of a response, I know this is the dev forum but as many wrong posts that have been here lately you might get overlooked..
Just remember the laws and regulations if you do indeed succeed. In the US, it is illegal to record a call without notifying the party involved with the call.
Cant wait to see it working.
Sent from Motorola Atrix on TELUS.
nosit1 said:
Just remember the laws and regulations if you do indeed succeed. In the US, it is illegal to record a call without notifying the party involved with the call.
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You're somewhat correct here. The actual answer here is that it is illegal in some states to record any interaction between two people without notification and acceptance by both parties. Some states it's a simple notification, some states it's illegal period, some states it doesn't matter. It's all by the state.
yup very true, every state has different rulings on the laws of call recording. Mostly big states you must notify the other party saying this call is being recorded blah blah blah... I live in CA so everytime I get a telemarketers call I always hear that BS
why on development?.
Moved.
Mr. Clown said:
why on development?.
Moved.
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Because it's a development question, necessitating an answer from a developer. The legal conversation is not the intent of this post.
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nosit1 said:
Just remember the laws and regulations if you do indeed succeed. In the US, it is illegal to record a call without notifying the party involved with the call.
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There is already a long thread on this same subject in which I layed out the actual law as it pertains to states and the federal law about recording calls.
Please refrain from posting what is 100% wrong, especially when it relates to legalities. You misinform people who could actually be seeking legal advice.
Read the following and educate yourself from there!
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm
I would ask that the moderators shut down threads where legal arguments arise, as there is so much misinformation from ignorant parties in these threads, that it could cause XDA more problems than they bargain for.
more so threads that are retreads of existing threads that aren't even that old.
No more legal talk!!
Sigh... Why on earth can't we talk about this subject without it turning into a legal discussion??
I don't give a rat's a** about the law here. No, I don't intend to break it, but that's 100% irrelevant. I'm not a lawyer trying to solve a legal problem, I'm an engineer and budding mobile dev hobbyist trying to solve a TECHNICAL problem.
Please, don't thwart an otherwise good and edifying technical discussion with fruitless arguing about legal BS. If I were interested in what the law says, I would not be posting to XDA. Come on, guys! Let's talk baseband processors, hacks, kernel mode drivers, <insert more tech jargon here>...
Maybe this is why no one can get anywhere with this. It always somehow transforms from "solve technical problem" (which is what we're good at, and actually qualified to do) to "get into a legal/philosophical debate". I don't know about you all, but I didn't go to law school; I went to a technical school and got a EE. And last time I checked the xda-developers.com home page, it said that XDA is:
"...the largest Internet community of lawyers/law students who like to discuss legal issues as they pertain to mobile devices."
Oops, no wait. My bad. It actually says:
"...the largest Internet community of smartphone/tablet enthusiasts and developers for the Android and Windows Phone platforms."
Can we please try to focus here? I didn't come here to pick a fight. Let's put our heads together and solve a technical problem.
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more so threads that are retreads of existing threads that aren't even that old.
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Those threads aren't productive because they all get off-subject by turning into legal debates. I was hoping that maybe this thread could actually be different and maybe help get some real and productive conversation going about the technical issues.
ah fair enough. Maybe edit the subject for that reason. Personally I would like to have this feature, came in handy once on my touch pro. over here we can record as long as 1 party knows its being recorded.
If you legally can't in your area, this thread might not be for you.
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ah fair enough. Maybe edit the subject for that reason.
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That's a good idea. I didn't know I could do that. Having trouble though. Sorry, I'm kind of an XDA n00b as well... how do I edit the subject? I can edit the post, but the subject appears to be read-only.
haha wish I could tell you off hand but I haven't had to edit one before.
What are the best non-motorola androids?
All motorola phones have call recording capabilities specifically crippled in their libaudio.so file.
I currently have an atrix and I don't have the knowledge of android OS to fix the libaudio.so myself.
Please FFS do not post anything about the legalities of phone recording in this thread. They are easily found by searching and not the topic of this thread. If anyone chooses to do otherwise, I humbly request a mod remove the off topic BS that seems to consistently arise in threads about software rather than legal oriented threads.
Thanks
Bueller? Bueller?
It has nothing to do with the phone, it's VZ, etc. Call recording works fine on MIUI.
I know on Samsung Galaxy S2 you can install a Call Recorder, check your phone-section.
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It has nothing to do with the phone, it's VZ, etc. Call recording works fine on MIUI.
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It actually is the phone, the libaudio.so on ALL motorola US phones is crippled from the factory. No call recording software can work on the phone unless it's one of the jank garbage ones that only record's on speakerphone.
As someone pointed out earlier in the thread... call recording works fine in Miui roms.
Since you're looking for a software solution that would be the best way to go. Install Miui rom on your phone. If there is a Miui rom for your phone. I've recorded my calls multiple times and not for other folks for listening to it at a later time. A client calls me, I'm out in the field, we talk about specifics of the case, I record the call in progress and when I get back to the office I take notes. It does not work using bluetooth... or more specifically the client's voice can be heard but not mine.
Is there a 3rd party app that gives you the same functionality? I'm not sure. Haven't looked since Miui is my rom of choice and it does the job natively.
Good luck.
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It actually is the phone, the libaudio.so on ALL motorola US phones is crippled from the factory. No call recording software can work on the phone unless it's one of the jank garbage ones that only record's on speakerphone.
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This is because it is illegal in alot of states unless you tell them you are recording them. If you don't they could sue you and have you put up on federal charges. The carriers are not gonna risk that.
If you want it then use an AOSP based rom that supports it. You could use MIUI but I wouldn't suggest it.
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This is because it is illegal in alot of states unless you tell them you are recording them. If you don't they could sue you and have you put up on federal charges. The carriers are not gonna risk that.
If you want it then use an AOSP based rom that supports it. You could use MIUI but I wouldn't suggest it.
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YOU WILL NOT BE BROUGHT UP ON FEDERAL CHARGES. You obviously don't know the laws and this is not the topic of the thread anyway. If you can't read then don't post, I specifically stated not to bring this off topic drivel into this thread.
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pernicus said:
YOU WILL NOT BE BROUGHT UP ON FEDERAL CHARGES. You obviously don't know the laws and this is not the topic of the thread anyway. If you can't read then don't post, I specifically stated not to bring this off topic drivel into this thread.
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Just in the spirit of the holiday here is the law
I never said you would, just that you can be. And just so you know. Every Android phone I have had has had the same issue. Only a few have been able to get it to work on AOSP roms as they dont use the stock files.
zelendel said:
Just in the spirit of the holiday here is the law
I never said you would, just that you can be. And just so you know. Every Android phone I have had has had the same issue. Only a few have been able to get it to work on AOSP roms as they dont use the stock files.
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As I explain in PM, You CAN NOT be brought up on FEDERAL charges for recording your own phone calls. Federal law only requires one party consent, YOU are that party.
In the states mentioned in that link you can be brought up on STATE charges for violating the state laws.
However, all of this is off topic, I clearly stated in the first post
Please FFS do not post anything about the legalities of phone recording in this thread. They are easily found by searching and not the topic of this thread. If anyone chooses to do otherwise, I humbly request a mod remove the off topic BS that seems to consistently arise in threads about software rather than legal oriented threads.
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Your right this has gone way off topic. Topic is about the call recording software which is prevented on said phones.
You have answered. Of you want tgat ability you have to use a custom rom with it built into the kernel.
Can anybody say if they have had any success configuring rvoix to work with the EVO 4G LTE? Since it's a snapdragon, this can be done with some kernel tinkering, right?
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Can anybody say if they have had any success configuring rvoix to work with the EVO 4G LTE? Since it's a snapdragon, this can be done with some kernel tinkering, right?
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FIRST please check the laws of your state and the states you receive calls on the regular to find out any type of disclaimer you would have to announce to the party your recording. In some places its a Federal offence to record a conversation without the party knowledge and consent of being recorded.
I know that GV can record incoming calls but haven't used used rvoix or any other form. If Kernel tinkering will be needed I wouldn't wait on it for now, we still don't have sources that would allow us to compile.
Thanks for the reply - lets just make it clear that I have checked on the legality of the recording (in my case I always ask permission - but in many states only one party (you) needs to have permission).
For the record, anybody who is concerned about the legality of recording calls and how to do so legally can consult the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, which has an excellent state-by-state website.
Now, anyways has anybody had any success with rvoix or something similar (that does recording from the line - not something that records using the mic)?
I think we are going to have to wait for kernel source
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wvdude said:
Thanks for the reply - lets just make it clear that I have checked on the legality of the recording (in my case I always ask permission - but in many states only one party (you) needs to have permission).
For the record, anybody who is concerned about the legality of recording calls and how to do so legally can consult the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, which has an excellent state-by-state website.
Now, anyways has anybody had any success with rvoix or something similar (that does recording from the line - not something that records using the mic)?
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Let me know if you ever get this figured out or find a different way to record calls without the mic. I've tried looking for this before in the past, but never found. Sadly like you said it won't work on our phones because it is Snap Dragon, but maybe there will be a work around.
NoClemency said:
Let me know if you ever get this figured out or find a different way to record calls without the mic. I've tried looking for this before in the past, but never found. Sadly like you said it won't work on our phones because it is Snap Dragon, but maybe there will be a work around.
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Well, actually what I meant was that it should work as soon as a kernel that supports it is developed because rVoix only works on snapdragon processors (like the previous EVO 4G)...so, just hang in there I guess and if anybody gets word of it, post it in here!
Thanks!
i will donate 50 bucks to get this working.
$100.00 Dollars
pre2epic4g said:
i will donate 50 bucks to get this working.
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No takers yet... How about $100.00?
Half now and half upon stable working app.
Use the voice recording app on the phone.easiest and simplest way.
pre2epic4g said:
No takers yet... How about $100.00?
Half now and half upon stable working app.
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No point in trying to get this going without the Kernel Source.
par05is said:
Use the voice recording app on the phone.easiest and simplest way.
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Well... thanks for this bit of info... it works quite well even though I wish the caller on the other end was a bit louder on the recording.
Guess I will just use this going forward.
What I want is a bit complicated. But I'm sure there might be an app which can do it. I've enabled call waiting in my Android. However, I don't wanna know the person on my other end to know I'm talking with someone else. What I want is, the other caller should get the normal ringing tone while I'm already talking to other person. I've seen it in some cheap Samsung phones (2/3/4 years back).
I want that none knows while I'm talking. If I turn off call waiting, the other call will not be able to call me. The call will not go to the ringing process. I want one hear the ringing tone as if I'm talking to nobody. ANy app?
I believe this has nothing to do with your phone or OS, but is rather handled by your operator. Therefore no app would help with this.
Not to mention this is quite a weird request... But to each their own.
ravilov said:
I believe this has nothing to do with your phone or OS, but is rather handled by your operator. Therefore no app would help with this.
Not to mention this is quite a weird request... But to each their own.
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My friend & I run the same carrier. He has this feature in his 6 years old Samsung but I don't have it!
OK, my bad then. In that case I don't know what to recommend. Wait for someone else to chime in.
Yeah! I really hope so!
Lets make an app that charges spam and scam callers and robo callers when they interrupt your day working or sleeping whos with me. I have ideas but i want to hear everyone elses input on this topic. because im getting sick of these callers
Lol, how are you going to "charge" them?
I take a personal interest in every spam caller.
Say the right things. I get few return calls.
I broke a few... oops.
blackhawk said:
Lol, how are you going to "charge" them?
I take a personal interest in every spam caller.
Say the right things. I get few return calls.
I broke a few... oops.
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stay tuned my good sir this will get good trust me
jaymzway said:
Lets make an app that charges spam and scam callers and robo callers when they interrupt your day working or sleeping whos with me. I have ideas but i want to hear everyone elses input on this topic. because im getting sick of these callers
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Wishful thinking considering that most [if not all] scammers can use internet apps, but not limited to bot nets to “spoof” calls, manipulating phone networks to ring your phone from numbers they actually aren’t calling from — including numbers that belonging to honest people like you, your doctor or your pharmacist.
Spoof calls usually get past the filters even with the assistance of sampling of the apps including
-- RoboKiller
-- Verizon’s CallFilter
-- AT&T’s CallProtect
-- T-Mobile’s NameID
rodken said:
Wishful thinking considering that most [if not all] scammers can use internet apps, but not limited to bot nets to “spoof” calls, manipulating phone networks to ring your phone from numbers they actually aren’t calling from — including numbers that belonging to honest people like you, your doctor or your pharmacist.
Spoof calls usually get past the filters even with the assistance of sampling of the apps including
-- RoboKiller
-- Verizon’s CallFilter
-- AT&T’s CallProtect
-- T-Mobile’s NameID
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ok thats a very true and a very valid point which just means another obstacle to overcome is all. Means it takes computers to generate that than it will take a computer to detect this with some proper know hows we can get around this.