A couple weeks ago, my Verizon Galaxy S4 let me know that there was an update available. As I always do, I wanted to check out the docs first. Interestingly, this is for the version that the phone is already running. Has anyone else seen this before? Since I have root already, I'm not thinking that I need to install the same, non-root version. What gives here?
I believe this update is for NG6. It has minor fixes from nc5. In my opinion, I would stick with nc5. Just flash ng6 modem if you want a better connectivity.
Raymondlikesroot said:
I believe this update is for NG6. It has minor fixes from nc5. In my opinion, I would stick with nc5. Just flash ng6 modem if you want a better connectivity.
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So the info contained in docs is incorrect, and should indicate NG6 instead? Brilliant. If that's the case, I'll just keep ignoring the upgrade.
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Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
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Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
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There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
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There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
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I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
steveojp said:
I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
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That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
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That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
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I thought MJ7 you can't root?
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I thought MJ7 you can't root?
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You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
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You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
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But the bootloader is still locked and I cant flash any custom roms yet right? And MJ7 is the newest update that is out???
Thanks
If you're on ME7 you can install safestrap to flash TW roms, but no AOSP. There's no point to upgrade to MI1 if that's what you want to do, because there's certain kernel issues using MI1 with safestrap. If you want to be on 4.3 rooted and don't care about flashing, then are safe methods to update firmware and keep root. Just follow the guides in their respective threads.
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Hey folks I hate to make a new thread if there is already a post on this, but I couldn't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S4 currently running 4.3 MJ7, rooted and using the wifi tether hack. I'm looking to upgrade to MK2, but I can't seem to find a guide that goes over how to do so without losing root and my wifi tether hack. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Hey folks I hate to make a new thread if there is already a post on this, but I couldn't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S4 currently running 4.3 MJ7, rooted and using the wifi tether hack. I'm looking to upgrade to MK2, but I can't seem to find a guide that goes over how to do so without losing root and my wifi tether hack. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Maybe this will help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
And this for the tether mod..
My only issue is that when I take the OTA I get an error message. I've read this is due to the tether hack, and I need to uninstall that for it to work. Just trying to figure out how to do so.
robbler said:
My only issue is that when I take the OTA I get an error message. I've read this is due to the tether hack, and I need to uninstall that for it to work. Just trying to figure out how to do so.
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Forget about the OTA.
Do it this way:
No Wipe MK2 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Google Wallet Patch -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
tech_head said:
Forget about the OTA.
Do it this way:
No Wipe MK2 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Google Wallet Patch -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
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Thanks for everyone's help, but I think I got it. I uninstalled the tether hack, took the OTA with survival mode, and now I'm on MK2 rooted with tether. Thanks.
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Thanks for everyone's help, but I think I got it. I uninstalled the tether hack, took the OTA with survival mode, and now I'm on MK2 rooted with tether. Thanks.
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What is the significant difference between MJ7 and MK2? I am on MJ7 and seem to have everything that I want (HyperDrive 15, tether, root).
What's the compelling reason to go up to MK2?
BoulderGeek said:
What is the significant difference between MJ7 and MK2? I am on MJ7 and seem to have everything that I want (HyperDrive 15, tether, root).
What's the compelling reason to go up to MK2?
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stepping stone to go to kitkat as you can retain mk2 bootloader while going to NC5 thru the upgrade/downgrade methods.
I just did this today and now running kitkat Bajarom V2.0
took a little while to do it but had no issues whatsoever
decaturbob said:
stepping stone to go to kitkat as you can retain mk2 bootloader while going to NC5 thru the upgrade/downgrade methods.
I just did this today and now running kitkat Bajarom V2.0
took a little while to do it but had no issues whatsoever
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Oooh! How's the BajaRom going? It actually looks quite nice. I'm tempted, but I'm scared to mess up LOL
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Oooh! How's the BajaRom going? It actually looks quite nice. I'm tempted, but I'm scared to mess up LOL
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not difficult but you have to be careful thats why I recommend a checklist so you don;t forget what files to have on your phone, what files you need on your computer and the order of the steps to be done.
there are several youtube videos that discuss various steps that would need to be done. If you have rooted and installed roms before, if you have used odin before, the process can be done successfully
btw, baja is very nice and devs are updating theme packages and other things right now. Can't wait to do some flashing on it.
Oh, I have most of the files set on my computer and phone to make the jump. I think. I just need clarification. What does downgrading back to MK2 achieve? Was that necessary in your move to Baja? I see these things like HLOS modems and non-HLOS modem and I'm like wait what is that and do I need to be concerned by it?
I'm one of those guys who has some irrational fear of messing up, hence why I need a list of exact steps to do. I don't really like making assumptions if I could help it. :c
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Oh, I have most of the files set on my computer and phone to make the jump. I think. I just need clarification. What does downgrading back to MK2 achieve? Was that necessary in your move to Baja? I see these things like HLOS modems and non-HLOS modem and I'm like wait what is that and do I need to be concerned by it?
I'm one of those guys who has some irrational fear of messing up, hence why I need a list of exact steps to do. I don't really like making assumptions if I could help it. :c
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You don't have to bother with downgrade...Odin full wipe mk2 tar then follow surge's steps to upgrade to nc5...you can load baja over the rooted deox rom
sent by baja kitkat S4
Oooh. Okay. I'll look into this later tonight. Hopefully I'll get it done soon. By the way, I noticed in Surge's thread that there's an NC5 patch file in the deodexed feature list. What is that and when would I flash that part?
The Official Release of KitKat 4.4.2 (NC4) for the Verizon Note 3 (SM-N900V) is now available and the official change log is HERE. However, that is the change log details changes from 4.3 to 4.4.2(NC4).
As someone who installed Beans pre-rooted version of the prior 4.4.2 leak (NC2), I'm curious as to the difference between the NC2 & NC4.
I haven't done any scientific tests, but NC4 certainly seems snappier and more responsive than the NC2 leak.
Also, I had three specific issues with the (NC2) build and all seem to be resolved in NC4...at least so far. First, the NC2 modem was worse than the MJ7 or MJE versions, but the NC4 modem seems as good, if not better than all the ohers. Second, the screen rotation would occasionally stop responding and get stuck in one mode or the other and only a reboot would fix it. And third, the auto brightness didn't work very well, if at all. After five (5) full days of running NC4 with Root I'm not having any issues and this seems to be the most stable and most responsive build yet. Also, battery use is almost identical to what I was getting before...although I probably have been using the phone more just testing it out and setting everything up the way I want it.
Also @anticloud pointed out that now when you setup your hotspot, if you select advanced options, you can now choose between creating a 2.4GHz and 5GHz hotspot. I don't believe that option was available before, but I never checked it in NC2.
Please post any info you have on undocumented changes from NC2 to NC4 and/or any personal experiences you've noticed between the two.
Thanks in Advance!
*** Take the advice of all the great developers and DO NOT install NC4 until they've had a chance to check it out and pre-root it! ***
Possible Visual Voicemail Issue
I did read that at least two users who installed NC4 are having issues with Visual Voice Mail.
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The Official Release of KitKat 4.4.2 (NC4) for the Verizon Note 3 (SM-N900V) is now available for download...no OTA yet.
As someone who installed Beans pre-rooted version of the prior 4.4.2 leak (NC2), I'm curious as to the difference between the two. I had three specific issues with the (NC2) build. First, the modem was worse than the MJ7 or MJE versions, so I reverted to those. Second, the screen rotation would occasionally stop responding and get stuck in one mode or the other and only a reboot would fix it. And third the auto brightness didn't work very well, if at all. So, I'm curious if any of those specific issues were addressed in the official release.
Please post any info you have on a change log for NC4 and/or any personal experiences you've noticed between the two.
Thanks in Advance!
*** Take the advice of all the great developers and DO NOT install NC4 until they've had a chance to check it out and pre-root it! ***
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I haven't experienced either of these issues and I've be on NC2 since the leak came out.
edwmsjr said:
The Official Release of KitKat 4.4.2 (NC4) for the Verizon Note 3 (SM-N900V) is now available for download...no OTA yet.
As someone who installed Beans pre-rooted version of the prior 4.4.2 leak (NC2), I'm curious as to the difference between the two. I had three specific issues with the (NC2) build. First, the modem was worse than the MJ7 or MJE versions, so I reverted to those. Second, the screen rotation would occasionally stop responding and get stuck in one mode or the other and only a reboot would fix it. And third the auto brightness didn't work very well, if at all. So, I'm curious if any of those specific issues were addressed in the official release.
Please post any info you have on a change log for NC4 and/or any personal experiences you've noticed between the two.
Thanks in Advance!
*** Take the advice of all the great developers and DO NOT install NC4 until they've had a chance to check it out and pre-root it! ***
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I've definitely been hitting the screen rotation and auto brightness bugs. Hopefully, those are addressed in NC4
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I've definitely been hitting the screen rotation and auto brightness bugs. Hopefully, those are addressed in NC4
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I as well have seen the autobrightness bug.. It seems to fix itself on a reboot for me, but irks me a bit. Screen sometimes is #1 in list of Barry draining apps.
I'm pulling OTA right now.
i wish this thread had a "?" at the end of the title. with 700+ views i cant be the only one expecting to see the NC4 change log posted LOL
Agree please rephrase you post topic because that's false information. There is no change log here
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Okay...I heard ya and added a question mark at the end of the title. I assumed...and I figured we all did...that there would never be an 'official' change log posted by Samsung or VZW noting the changes from an unofficial, leaked firmware to a final, official version. That's why I wanted to create a forum where end users could document the changes they've noticed. Sorry for the confusion and misleading original title!
UPDATE: I changed the title again because we now actually have an "official VZW change log" which is available in the original post of this thread (Thanks @klittle81). However, I still would like to have users share their experiences from NC2 to NC4...which was my original intention anyway.
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Okay...I heard ya and added a question mark at the end of the title. I assumed...and I figured we all did...that there would never be an 'official' change log posted by Samsung or VZW noting the changes from an unofficial, leaked firmware to a final, official version. That's why I wanted to create a forum where end users could document the changes they've noticed. Sorry for the confusion and misleading original title!
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I think what he meant is like how me and probably others were thinking, this thread had a change log from 4.3 to 4.4.2 NC4. Thats what I thought.
On the other thread a user is claiming by turning on survival mode on SU he was able to upgrade and keep root. Have any of you that have upgraded tried that and did it work?
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I think what he meant is like how me and probably others were thinking, this thread had a change log from 4.3 to 4.4.2 NC4. Thats what I thought.
On the other thread a user is claiming by turning on survival mode on SU he was able to upgrade and keep root. Have any of you that have upgraded tried that and did it work?
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Yeah, I get that now. I didn't really think about it at first because change logs for 4.4.2 from 4.3 have been out since January pretty much everywhere.
I was going to try the OTA with Survival mode, but when I go to "software update" from "about phone", I get the message "unfortunately, settings has stopped". I'm running the pre-rooted stock 4.4.2 NC2 prepared by Beans. I assume he disabled it to prevent people from taking OTA's by mistake.
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Yeah, I get that now. I didn't really think about it at first because change logs for 4.4.2 from 4.3 have been out since January pretty much everywhere.
I was going to try the OTA with Survival mode, but when I go to "software update" from "about phone", I get the message "unfortunately, settings has stopped". I'm running the pre-rooted stock 4.4.2 NC2 prepared by Beans. I assume he disabled it to prevent people from taking OTA's by mistake.
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Ya I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he DID remove it for that "just in case" scenario.
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Ya I'm pretty sure I read somewhere he DID remove it for that "just in case" scenario.
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So, that leads to some questions about the people who are saying that they've installed the OTA with Survival Mode in SU. They must be rooted if they've got SU, but most devs remove the ability to do OTA's...so what gives. Are they rooted on 4.3 or 4.4.2(NC2)...and what rom, if any are they running that allows OTA's? Just thinking out loud...
I'm interested to see if they enabled the XLTE on the Note 3 since the M8 and S5 require software update....maybe that's why it took so long to get it.
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I'm interested to see if they enabled the XLTE on the Note 3 since the M8 and S5 require software update....maybe that's why it took so long to get it.
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If you search through the general forum here there's a big thread on aws we can enable it now I'm 99% sure of through a hidden menu. I'm not sure if root is required but I remember guys saying they enabled it already.
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So, that leads to some questions about the people who are saying that they've installed the OTA with Survival Mode in SU. They must be rooted if they've got SU, but most devs remove the ability to do OTA's...so what gives. Are they rooted on 4.3 or 4.4.2(NC2)...and what rom, if any are they running that allows OTA's? Just thinking out loud...
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The stock rooted latest 4.3 ROM with all boat intact and no theme or any file tampering will allow the 4.4.2 OTA......but if you have any bloat removed or tampered with any system UI or framework files it will fail....so that why some people prefer to freeze bloat instead of deleting it so they can unfreeze it and accept a ota.....If you modded your device and want to ota with root survival mode, your best bet is to back up any internal storage data, do a fresh install of stock 4.3 MJE tar through odin, root using a MJE approved root method...do not modify or debloat anything.....check ota survival in super su app...take the OTA with your fingers crossed cause there is no guarantee. ...now welcome to a secured kernel and no way to revert back to 4.3 to root if it didn't survive..lol
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The stock rooted latest 4.3 ROM with all boat intact and no theme or any file tampering will allow the 4.4.2 OTA......but if you have any bloat removed or tampered with any system UI or framework files it will fail....so that why some people prefer to freeze bloat instead of deleting it so they can unfreeze it and accept a ota.....If you modded your device and want to ota with root survival mode, your best bet is to back up any internal storage data, do a fresh install of stock 4.3 MJE tar through odin, root using a MJE approved root method...do not modify or debloat anything.....check ota survival in super su app...take the OTA with your fingers crossed cause there is no guarantee. ...now welcome to a secured kernel and no way to revert back to 4.3 to root if it didn't survive..lol
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So my tether provisioning hack and wanam xposed probably will make it fail?
I kept a copy of the original tether file. I can uninstall xposed...
Hmmm...
As for backing up internal data, any recommendations? I find Titanium Backup too confusing to use.
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If you search through the general forum here there's a big thread on aws we can enable it now I'm 99% sure of through a hidden menu. I'm not sure if root is required but I remember guys saying they enabled it already.
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Yea I saw that thread and it had to be enabled manually but I was meaning if it would be enabled from Verizon and us not needing to hack it.
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I'm not sure if they will post a change log from NC2 -> NC4 but here I found this for NC4.. Pretty much says here is KitKat with updated bloatware...LOL
Update Features
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/galaxy-note-3-05-13-14.pdf
Update Instructions
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/galaxy-note-3-instructions-05-13-14.pdf
I just got my Note 3 today and took the OTA without even thinking. Now I'm on NC4 and absolutely no root methods are working for me. Anyone have any ideas? I tried all 3 stock ROMs, which failed. The unsupported root methods failed, through both download mode and normal. And the NC2 root ROM failed in Odin.
I am currently on MK2 rooted and have been since MK2 came out. I have been watching the newer versions of code come out, mainly 4.4.2. I don't see any real benefit of upgrading and rerooting. I have Titanium Backup Pro installed and already have frozen all the bloatware. What if any are the benefits of going to NC5 or NG6?
Thanks
-Agentmuzz
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I am currently on MK2 rooted and have been since MK2 came out. I have been watching the newer versions of code come out, mainly 4.4.2. I don't see any real benefit of upgrading and rerooting. I have Titanium Backup Pro installed and already have frozen all the bloatware. What if any are the benefits of going to NC5 or NG6?
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-Agentmuzz
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Kitkat and its new features and some apps are kitkat only... just Google it. Plus Security fixes bundled in the update.
I'm on nc5 with root and tether unlock. Any reason to update to nk1. Seems like nk1 was just to fix the problems with nc6 witch didn't have really any new features besides Knox. I haven't seen much about nk1 and not sure about a tether unlock either.
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I'm on nc5 with root and tether unlock. Any reason to update to nk1. Seems like nk1 was just to fix the problems with nc6 witch didn't have really any new features besides Knox. I haven't seen much about nk1 and not sure about a tether unlock either.
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NK1 just fixes the random reboot and vpn connectivity issues on NG6, so really nothing new.
Thanks that's what I figured.