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Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
steveojp said:
Hi guys it's been a while since I've been on here. I have a quick question. I know the S4 bootloader can't be unlocked yet. Which is fine with me..but I found this thread to root it but it says not to do it if I accepted the OTA update. How do I know if I have the update? I did update my phone the other day but now it's asking for me to do it again. So I am think I don't have the latest update. I just want to root my phone to take out all this samsung and verizon crap it comes with. Hopefully when the bootloader is able to be unlocked I can start flashing custom roms. If anyone could help me out here that would be awesome. Here's the thread that I was going to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301720
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There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
k1mu said:
There are separate OTA updates to get you from MDK to ME7, ME7 to MI1, and MI1 to MJ7. You'll get prompted for each of these as there's no way to skip an update.
To find out what you're running, Settings, More, About Phone. Look at the Build number field.
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I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
steveojp said:
I looked and im on ME7...and it wants me to update again but im holding off. What do you think?
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That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
k1mu said:
That depends on what you want to do. Updating to MI1 will still allow you root, but no custom recovery.
There's no big advantage there, but MI1 will allow you to update to MJ7 and keep root, which is perhaps worthwhile as that's 4.3.
I find my GS4 to be a lot faster on MJ7 so it was worth it. But only you can decide what's best.
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I thought MJ7 you can't root?
steveojp said:
I thought MJ7 you can't root?
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You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
k1mu said:
You can root MJ7 using vroot. Since I don't trust that, I'm not rooted.
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But the bootloader is still locked and I cant flash any custom roms yet right? And MJ7 is the newest update that is out???
Thanks
If you're on ME7 you can install safestrap to flash TW roms, but no AOSP. There's no point to upgrade to MI1 if that's what you want to do, because there's certain kernel issues using MI1 with safestrap. If you want to be on 4.3 rooted and don't care about flashing, then are safe methods to update firmware and keep root. Just follow the guides in their respective threads.
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Hey folks I hate to make a new thread if there is already a post on this, but I couldn't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S4 currently running 4.3 MJ7, rooted and using the wifi tether hack. I'm looking to upgrade to MK2, but I can't seem to find a guide that goes over how to do so without losing root and my wifi tether hack. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
robbler said:
Hey folks I hate to make a new thread if there is already a post on this, but I couldn't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for.
I have a Verizon Galaxy S4 currently running 4.3 MJ7, rooted and using the wifi tether hack. I'm looking to upgrade to MK2, but I can't seem to find a guide that goes over how to do so without losing root and my wifi tether hack. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Maybe this will help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
And this for the tether mod..
My only issue is that when I take the OTA I get an error message. I've read this is due to the tether hack, and I need to uninstall that for it to work. Just trying to figure out how to do so.
robbler said:
My only issue is that when I take the OTA I get an error message. I've read this is due to the tether hack, and I need to uninstall that for it to work. Just trying to figure out how to do so.
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Forget about the OTA.
Do it this way:
No Wipe MK2 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Google Wallet Patch -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
tech_head said:
Forget about the OTA.
Do it this way:
No Wipe MK2 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Google Wallet Patch -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
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Thanks for everyone's help, but I think I got it. I uninstalled the tether hack, took the OTA with survival mode, and now I'm on MK2 rooted with tether. Thanks.
robbler said:
Thanks for everyone's help, but I think I got it. I uninstalled the tether hack, took the OTA with survival mode, and now I'm on MK2 rooted with tether. Thanks.
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What is the significant difference between MJ7 and MK2? I am on MJ7 and seem to have everything that I want (HyperDrive 15, tether, root).
What's the compelling reason to go up to MK2?
BoulderGeek said:
What is the significant difference between MJ7 and MK2? I am on MJ7 and seem to have everything that I want (HyperDrive 15, tether, root).
What's the compelling reason to go up to MK2?
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stepping stone to go to kitkat as you can retain mk2 bootloader while going to NC5 thru the upgrade/downgrade methods.
I just did this today and now running kitkat Bajarom V2.0
took a little while to do it but had no issues whatsoever
decaturbob said:
stepping stone to go to kitkat as you can retain mk2 bootloader while going to NC5 thru the upgrade/downgrade methods.
I just did this today and now running kitkat Bajarom V2.0
took a little while to do it but had no issues whatsoever
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Oooh! How's the BajaRom going? It actually looks quite nice. I'm tempted, but I'm scared to mess up LOL
Ryukouki said:
Oooh! How's the BajaRom going? It actually looks quite nice. I'm tempted, but I'm scared to mess up LOL
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not difficult but you have to be careful thats why I recommend a checklist so you don;t forget what files to have on your phone, what files you need on your computer and the order of the steps to be done.
there are several youtube videos that discuss various steps that would need to be done. If you have rooted and installed roms before, if you have used odin before, the process can be done successfully
btw, baja is very nice and devs are updating theme packages and other things right now. Can't wait to do some flashing on it.
Oh, I have most of the files set on my computer and phone to make the jump. I think. I just need clarification. What does downgrading back to MK2 achieve? Was that necessary in your move to Baja? I see these things like HLOS modems and non-HLOS modem and I'm like wait what is that and do I need to be concerned by it?
I'm one of those guys who has some irrational fear of messing up, hence why I need a list of exact steps to do. I don't really like making assumptions if I could help it. :c
Ryukouki said:
Oh, I have most of the files set on my computer and phone to make the jump. I think. I just need clarification. What does downgrading back to MK2 achieve? Was that necessary in your move to Baja? I see these things like HLOS modems and non-HLOS modem and I'm like wait what is that and do I need to be concerned by it?
I'm one of those guys who has some irrational fear of messing up, hence why I need a list of exact steps to do. I don't really like making assumptions if I could help it. :c
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You don't have to bother with downgrade...Odin full wipe mk2 tar then follow surge's steps to upgrade to nc5...you can load baja over the rooted deox rom
sent by baja kitkat S4
Oooh. Okay. I'll look into this later tonight. Hopefully I'll get it done soon. By the way, I noticed in Surge's thread that there's an NC5 patch file in the deodexed feature list. What is that and when would I flash that part?
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...date-with-knox-2-0-connectivity-improvements/
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
Surge1223 said:
...Sigh. When will vzw pull their heads out of their..
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Until they realize they are not doing their customers any favors, never.
I knew better. Got an MDK device, rooted it immediately and have been running CM ever since. [emoji41]
If you guys are talking about Knox 2.0...get used to it. Knox is being incorporated by Google in Android "L".
Remember, with all the hackers out there, the average Joe and Joan want their privacy secured...all the banking that is done from the phones now?
And also Verizon is the largest carrier for military and commercial contracts...to keep them and get more the phones have to be as secure as possible.
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
I think they need to find another root method. Towelroot only works on kernels june 3 and below. I have no idea if it will work if you used it
I'm not upgrading. All flashaholics like me will DEFINITELY just wait for a possible exploit for NC5 than hope for the almost nonexistent chance there will be an unlock in the new firmware. Just my $0.02
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SolidSnakeUS said:
Anyone try to see if Towelroot works with this build?
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We have been able to use towelroot on the latest updates for the att S4, S5, and Vz S5 by flashing back the previous kernel, rooting, then reflashing the new unexploitable kernel. Vz S4 users will likely be able to do the same on NG6.
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Least they could have done was give us 4.4.4 at the same time.
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Anyone get this yet. What android version is it still 4.4.2
Does towelroot work on this update? I want to know before I take the plunge...
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Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
MedleHed said:
Downloading now. I don't care if I lose root. I'll test towelroot after the update.
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Towelroot is guaranteed not to work. A better option is to grab the update from your cache/fota folder and post so that we can make a workaround to keep root.
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
Surge1223 said:
Yep id give it to muniz.
Theres no way im going through the drama we had last time.
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Lol, I remember and don't blame you at all.
It's confirmed that towelroot doesn't work. The version is still 4.4.2. The first thing I noticed was the GPS toggle in the notification area is now a Location toggle.
Any method of rooting?
Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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Now that Towelroot is out, is there any way of rooting on the latest version? Downgrading, flashing an image in Odin, etc? Or are we pretty much screwed until a work around is found?
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There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
muniz_ri said:
There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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I could give you guys the OTA if you tell me how to do it. I'm by no means an expert at rooting, but I've had a few years experience. So basically you'll modify the new kernel to allow downgrading to NC5, root, then update again? I had Towelroot before I updated, had OTA survival mode enabled in SuperSU, and had it installed as a system app, but I still lost root on this latest update. :crying:
muniz_ri said:
There is a very good chance that the kernel swap method will work on this latest build.
Someone just needs to grab the ota from their device. We'll take the kernel from the new update and package it into an Odin flashable .tar. You'll then flash the old NC5 kernel after taking the update, re-boot and root using towelroot, then reflash the new kernel. No guarantees but this method has been working on all of the latest Sammy updates.
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When they finally block us from doing this, it will be a dark day lol.
I'm wondering how to tell if I am using a NC2 or NC5. While I"ve had my phone rooted with the original root method, I have no clue about the nomenclature.
I'm currently using the Google Play Edition ROM for the S4 but want to use ChaosROM due to persistent issues that haven't been resolved. In ChaosROM, it asks to make sure you are rooted NC2 or NC5 with Safestrap. I have no clue what these mean and basically want to know if I can just download the ROM and flash it as I normally do.
zilla. said:
I'm wondering how to tell if I am using a NC2 or NC5. While I"ve had my phone rooted with the original root method, I have no clue about the nomenclature.
I'm currently using the Google Play Edition ROM for the S4 but want to use ChaosROM due to persistent issues that haven't been resolved. In ChaosROM, it asks to make sure you are rooted NC2 or NC5 with Safestrap. I have no clue what these mean and basically want to know if I can just download the ROM and flash it as I normally do.
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Phone info from the play store. It will tell you your bootloader version.
Thanks!
A couple weeks ago, my Verizon Galaxy S4 let me know that there was an update available. As I always do, I wanted to check out the docs first. Interestingly, this is for the version that the phone is already running. Has anyone else seen this before? Since I have root already, I'm not thinking that I need to install the same, non-root version. What gives here?
I believe this update is for NG6. It has minor fixes from nc5. In my opinion, I would stick with nc5. Just flash ng6 modem if you want a better connectivity.
Raymondlikesroot said:
I believe this update is for NG6. It has minor fixes from nc5. In my opinion, I would stick with nc5. Just flash ng6 modem if you want a better connectivity.
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So the info contained in docs is incorrect, and should indicate NG6 instead? Brilliant. If that's the case, I'll just keep ignoring the upgrade.