So, I recently got my first android and I've been fairly obsessed with getting it to run as smooth as possible, with as little battery drain as possible. Removing all bloat, and all unnecessary apps/services etc. Now I find myself with half my apps being related to optimization, and I am wondering if this might have some reversed effects. I do appologize for the long read, I hope this thread will clarify some things for more than just me!
My setup so far on my LG G2 D802:
Stock KitKat 4.4.2 - DorimanX newest beta kernel (STweaks, Synapse)
Viper4android - Sound quality is ALOT better, buzz/hissing sound gone.
Greenify - I use it mainly on social apps, to prevent wakelocks. Also used on stuff I don't use and cpu/ram consuming apps I don't use that often
DisableService - Used mainly on social apps and I have disabled about 20 system services (Mainly wearable, game, log, and ad stuff)
Xposed Installer: Xprivacy, BootManager, Cool Tool, Greenify, Secure Settings(Mainly for Llama), Wakelock Terminator.
Trickstermod - Using to modify IO and kernel (Running deadline/interactive(Highly modified))
Wakelock Detector
Titanium Backup
SuperSu
CPU Monitor Advanced Pro
All in all 17 apps just for optimizing, it feels a bit much? Does these app drain battery? Any tips?
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I used Better Battery Stats to figure out what has draining my battery like crazy. After 15 hours, this patial wakelock kept my phone up for nearly 6 hours!!! My phone is a LG P769V20D (Optimus L9), locked bootloader, and tweaked stock ROM. Almost fully debloated (kept gmail).
Is there an alternative fix to this? I froze Google Services Framework, but then the play store won't work until I defrost it. In addition, it causes the appearance of another wakelock called "Icing." It doesn't run as often as Event Log, but still runs a decent amount of time (~1 hour in less than 24 hours of battery discharge).
Any ideas?
Edit: I think I found a solution!!! Turns out that Xposed Installer has a nifty app called Per App Hacking. It enables the user to either prevent wakelocks or simply delay the rate at which the wakelocks occur. In my case, I prefer to delay since I do use Gmail, Maps and the Play Store. Thank goodness for Xposed!
I am curious to know what the minimum repertoire of security apps could be. I find that it is easy to have two or three apps doing the same thing, and tripping over each other. For starters, an anti-virus app will likely include anti-malware and firewall, but somehow I think they are not necessary if you have apps that disable permissions, for example.
I have installed the XPosed framework, and with it I have installed XPrivacy, BootManager, LightningWall, Per App Hacking, UnbelovedHosts, and Greenify. This list, by itself, might have conflicts. I also love Titanium Backup, and 3C Toolbox Pro, and these were all I had before Greenify turned me on to XPosed. Now I have far too many knobs and sliders. I am still learning to use these, but I feel that I might be chasing my tail. So the question is, what is the minimum that should be installed to maintain a firm level of control over the phone?
What prompted most of these installs, besides not wanting my tip calculator to take my picture, is the extreme lag I deal with being a Thunderbolt user. And until I get a device with more processing power (or a super lightweight ROM), I want to limit the application activity.
Pete said:
I am curious to know what the minimum repertoire of security apps could be. I find that it is easy to have two or three apps doing the same thing, and tripping over each other. For starters, an anti-virus app will likely include anti-malware and firewall, but somehow I think they are not necessary if you have apps that disable permissions, for example.
I have installed the XPosed framework, and with it I have installed XPrivacy, BootManager, LightningWall, Per App Hacking, UnbelovedHosts, and Greenify. This list, by itself, might have conflicts. I also love Titanium Backup, and 3C Toolbox Pro, and these were all I had before Greenify turned me on to XPosed. Now I have far too many knobs and sliders. I am still learning to use these, but I feel that I might be chasing my tail. So the question is, what is the minimum that should be installed to maintain a firm level of control over the phone?
What prompted most of these installs, besides not wanting my tip calculator to take my picture, is the extreme lag I deal with being a Thunderbolt user. And until I get a device with more processing power (or a super lightweight ROM), I want to limit the application activity.
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Best thing would be to upgrade to a newer device honestly. Your focus on security is pointless as there are at least 4 major groups of security threats imbedded in ICS android code, one that persisted into even lollipop until a few days ago. Heartbleed, fake ID, stagefright exploitables, etc.
Besides all that, titanium and 3c run in the background, so does xposed. If you suffer lag, drop some of the apps you mentioned, debloat your system, and slightly overclock. I had santod's nusense running faster than some dual core devices on my bolt while I still used it.
Hi,
i have recently upgraded to factory marshmallow image. Performance was awesome on the first minutes (no apps installed). But then, after all apps from the playstore were installed, performance got considerably worse.
As I was used to do on previous android versions, I enabled cpu usage overlay on developer options, only to realize it now only shows android ui process on the list.
As I noticed that other cpu monitoring tools were only displaying themselves, I'm guessing it's something related to the new permission system.
So here's the question. Is there any way to grant an app, or even the system ui, access to other apps cpu usage info???
Is there any other way to track which app is draining the performance, without having to uninstall one by one (I have around 150 apps installed)?
Model: volantisg (lte), black, 32gb.
Thank you.
I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
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I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
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- Greenify won't directly free up memory
- sluggishness is likely do to multiple apps/services competing for resources when the device wakes; that's why native doze has occational​ maintenance windows
- aggressive doze can contribute to this behavior
- consider a start-up (broadcast receiver) blocker if the social media apps you reference are found running after the device starts; that way they never get loaded into memory in the first place
Can you recommenced a start-up blocker? this means the app will never be launched into memory unless I do it manually?
I thought that "greenify" will "compress" the program in memory causing it to use less. I don't want the app to be completely disabled (otherwise I could just freeze it). For example, if someone sends me a message on facebook (which is very rare), I'd like to know.
Real head scratcher this one!!
RN3 pro SD650 practically had it since day one of its release
Was using CM 13/14 and radon kernel all along
Always used to boast to all of my friends as i would regularly get 8-10 hours screen on time
Currently on the 03/29 build of LOS (TheStrix), radon 4.3, greenify
Getting 2-3 hours screen on time, i am a light user i dont use any social media apps
I have noticed this since jumping on the Nougat upgrade
Apps installed: Adaway, magisk, chrome, greenify, ES file pro, google maps, sdmaid pro, Mihome (camera at home)
Phone idle and LineageOS System are consuming 30% of the battery between themselves
I use my phone as i have always used it, have not changed anything apart from using magisk whereas previously i used the built in root with CM
I am not a new user who needs simple advice, I hopefully can figure out what is happening in the background
I dont really want to install a wakelock detector etc
I have even tried to reset app preference in the hope that will help
Whereas usually i would have a straight line on my battery graph with the slight dip now it is a constant dip
Anyone else experiencing anything similar?
Install wakelock detector see if anything stands out. Are the CPU's going into deep sleep? That sort of drain says otherwise.