Was just thinking about buying the app SetCPU for root users, and was wondering if I was actually knowledgeable enough to know what I was doing. And I'm probably not.
So, could you give me the details of what this does? I know OC improves performance and UC saves battery, but is there anything else I should know?
Would this app even be necessary since the Atrix already has good battery life? I get about 18 hours with heavy use.
Basically just tell me what I need to know about SetCPU.
Ok. I guess nobody wants to help.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Tennis11 said:
Ok. I guess nobody wants to help.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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I've never used this software before and I'm interested as well but you're jumping the gun about this... you only posted 2 hours ago...
Sorry.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Gotta give more time for people to reply... it's not uncommon for a thread to not have a reply for a day or 2.
As of now, it can only underclock the atrix... no overclocking really. It's a simple program in terms of ease of use. There's a minimum and maximum setting. You can lower the max to underclock if you want to save battery and you can increase the minimum performance. Someone said they felt the phone ran better when they increased the minimum, though I honestly don't see much of a difference. Increasing the minimum will cause more battery drain.
For now, I don't really see a use aside from underclocking to save battery life. I haven't personally tried that as, like you, I have been satisfied with the battery life. If I knew I wouldn't be able to charge the phone for a while, I might give it a try, but haven't really wanted to bother with it. Otherwise, you can toy around with it for a few minutes. I'm hoping we'll get an update so we can overclock sometime.
Yesturday I woke up at 5 am and flashed 1.2.6 to remove all the buggy ROM I had installed. I then rooted and downloaded a few root apps; setcpu, TI backup (for freezing some worthless moto crap), and root exporer. Then using setcpu I set my max speed to 760 and made a profile so that when the screen is off it sets the max speed to 312. I really didnt start using the phone heavily untill about 4 pm (at this time I think my battery was reading about 89%). When I say heavy, I mean more than I would normally use in one day. At 1 am this morning, still on my phone, barely able to hold my eyes open, the battery was at 10%. I really dont know if setcpu contributed to my battery length, but I'm leaving the current phone setup alone.
Coming from the DX, the benefits of rooting (even with it locked down) were WIFI tethering, screenshots, and overall just being able to customize the phone more with themes, colors, etc.
From what I can tell, the Wifi tethering app just can't hang with the native MobileHotSpot tethering option provided by the phone, in which case, it becomes less of a benefit.
I can see why people don't like Sense but it doesn't bother me one bit so that really isn't a factor. Just wondering what other features (or lack thereof) are pushing people one way or the other.
well i supposed it's up to you if you like to tinker or not. so far i am using the das bamf rom and really like it. for one, all the vzw bloat is gone, and there are a number of nice little features such as the battery charging icon, 5 icon wide app drawer, transparent app drawer/notifications.
root enables programs such as set cpu to control the cpu speed. for instance, i have the cpu slow way down when the screen is off saving battery.
if you are happy with your phone the way it is, leave it. if you like to play around, try new things, and have a better phone than the manufacturer came out with, root it. there is practically no danger and you can also go back to stock.
I just rooted because I hate all the bull**** bloatware. Also like to customize
The ability to remove the Verizon software off the phone (VVM, VZ Navigation, VZW Backup, etc) and the ability to change the DPI to something more usable (i.e., less big).
Those are my reasons...
Titanium Backup... Removal of bloatware... Those two things, even if you plan on keeping stock rom, is enough reason to root, in my opinion.
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Removal of trailware games I will never play. and get rid of CityID and verizon apps, that is my biggest complaint
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Removal of trailware games I will never play. and get rid of CityID and verizon apps, that is my biggest complaint
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Are you referring to having to scroll through them when in the apps folder or actually feeling a performance difference by removing them? If it's scrolling past them, that doesn't much bother me..
Now that the kernel source is out, I'll definitely be rooting. Battery life is a top priority so undervolting is a big factor for me if nothing else.
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Are you referring to having to scroll through them when in the apps folder or actually feeling a performance difference by removing them? If it's scrolling past them, that doesn't much bother me..
Now that the kernel source is out, I'll definitely be rooting. Battery life is a top priority so undervolting is a big factor for me if nothing else.
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who needs vz backup assistant when google does it for free? i guess some people can live with trialware taking up useless space but cityid is just awful. I use to get nag screens on my incredible. There is an option to remove it if you cancel the trail peroid, but it is still there taking up memory
My reasons that I rooted:
1. Get rid of bloatware
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Customization options
4. *FULL* backups of my phone (Titanium Backup)
5. Overclocking, Underclocking, Overvolting and Undervolting
The Kernel was just released by HTC today, so we will be getting some really nice mods for the T-Bolt soon. Some of the things I want:
1. When my phone is plugged into a charger, I want it overvolted and overclocked for FULL performance (1.6ghz stable please )
2. When my phone is on battery, I want it back to 1ghz, but lets unvervolt it to get better battery.
3. When my phone's screen is locked lets underclock it down to 250mhz, seriously undervolt it, and get some real juice out of it.
4. When my phone's screen is locked, auto disable 4g, gps and wifi for even more battery savings.
Basically I want a phone that screams when it is supposed to scream, and tidy on the battery when it is supposed to be.
For me its about bloatware and speed. Plus (correct me if im wrong) the hotspot tethering is only free for a period of time, so eventually youll want that root for the tether.
I always equate it to if you buy a pc versus building it. Most people if they buy it the first thing they do is delete all the crap for overall performance.
Even if you root only to get rid of the bloatware your going to see an increase in battery life (especially from crappy blockbuster) and load speeds.
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For me its about bloatware and speed. Plus (correct me if im wrong) the hotspot tethering is only free for a period of time, so eventually youll want that root for the tether.
I always equate it to if you buy a pc versus building it. Most people if they buy it the first thing they do is delete all the crap for overall performance.
Even if you root only to get rid of the bloatware your going to see an increase in battery life (especially from crappy blockbuster) and load speeds.
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also read reports of blockbuster running in the background constantly updating and draining the battery unless you physically go in there and turn it off...i didnt bother checking that out, i promptly removed it for good
For me it was all about the customization. Everything I own I tweak to make it just to my like so the same goes for my phone, so rooting was just necessary. Also a lot of the custom ROMS are designed to help improve battery life, and since the battery life of the TB isn't very stellar to begin with, it is nice to be able to increase it by flashing the correct ROM. I really don't see a situation where you wouldn't want to root it.
My moto is when in doubt... Root.
It just makes it better
Had my Thunderbolt since day one. It's my first smartphone. I want to root it and in the process of doing so. I've read that it will wipe my phone. Just curious. Does that include my SD card as well? and how would i go about flashing my stock ROM just in case i need to take it in for warranty purposes?
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Had my Thunderbolt since day one. It's my first smartphone. I want to root it and in the process of doing so. I've read that it will wipe my phone. Just curious. Does that include my SD card as well? and how would i go about flashing my stock ROM just in case i need to take it in for warranty purposes?
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It wont wipe your sd card unless you select it to in clockwork recovery.
to get back to out of the box with s-on and original rom. download this ruu and plug your phone in. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975888
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It wont wipe your sd card unless you select it to in clockwork recovery.
to get back to out of the box with s-on and original rom. download this ruu and plug your phone in. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975888
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Awesome Thanks
DNak206 said:
Coming from the DX, the benefits of rooting (even with it locked down) were WIFI tethering, screenshots, and overall just being able to customize the phone more with themes, colors, etc.
From what I can tell, the Wifi tethering app just can't hang with the native MobileHotSpot tethering option provided by the phone, in which case, it becomes less of a benefit.
I can see why people don't like Sense but it doesn't bother me one bit so that really isn't a factor. Just wondering what other features (or lack thereof) are pushing people one way or the other.
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Coming from the DX you were in a walled garden (not as bad as another walled garden, but walled none the less). While I do like Sense, there are also Cyanogen, Liquid Metal, and MIUI as examples of rom styles that will completely transform your phone.
MIUI menus for example are by far the best designed that I have seen. And you might reply who cares about menus, but once you have messed with it, it makes a world of difference.
Cyanogen adds a crap ton of function then tends to focus on stability. This lead to (IMHO) the smoothest most stable rom on the Droid Inc.
Liquid Metal is just way outside the box. I was not fond of it (except the kick ass lock screen), but I bet someone here who did fancy it could speak for its merits.
The real question is, why the hell wouldn't you root
dyezak said:
My reasons that I rooted:
1. Get rid of bloatware
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Customization options
4. *FULL* backups of my phone (Titanium Backup)
5. Overclocking, Underclocking, Overvolting and Undervolting
The Kernel was just released by HTC today, so we will be getting some really nice mods for the T-Bolt soon. Some of the things I want:
1. When my phone is plugged into a charger, I want it overvolted and overclocked for FULL performance (1.6ghz stable please )
2. When my phone is on battery, I want it back to 1ghz, but lets unvervolt it to get better battery.
3. When my phone's screen is locked lets underclock it down to 250mhz, seriously undervolt it, and get some real juice out of it.
4. When my phone's screen is locked, auto disable 4g, gps and wifi for even more battery savings.
Basically I want a phone that screams when it is supposed to scream, and tidy on the battery when it is supposed to be.
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I second all that. LOL
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I second all that. LOL
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I will most likely root, I guess I have just been pretty impressed with this phone stock, wasn't sure I needed it. Take into consideration more customization, tethering and increased battery life, again, I think it's a no-brainer.
Are you guys seeing an increase in speed and battery life now that you've rooted? I know killing bloatware also kills running services which should in theory help, but isn't undervolting the best way to maximize juice?
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I will most likely root, I guess I have just been pretty impressed with this phone stock, wasn't sure I needed it.
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This is why I still haven't....
Coming from a turtle phone, this is very easy to get used to as-is..
Ill try to put in pertinent info w/out babbling
I bought my T day b4 yesterday rooted it with easy rooter the software version is now android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.36-cfs
ziggy471'sbuildbox #041011-0922
sun april 10-2011
with rom The Perfect storm v1.3
First things first I have no concern for the battery life my t stays plugged in 20-22 hrs a day......What I need/want is a fast T and faster internet.
I installed "cpu master to overclock but have no idea how or what to set that to would like a fast but staple setting to overclock to,or a better app to do it with whichever.
I also installed "wireless Tether" version 2.0.7 and again have no clue as how it needs to be setup for fastest possible Internet.
I drive a truck so my t is running Google maps,my phone,Facebook,and mail all setup to be ran via voice along with tethering my laptop to run my truck software.
any other tweaks/app,suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
ohh and BTW I cant stand a cluttered up screen so any themes that let me put "like "apps in a folder or things that let me condense stuff together.
Please excuse the Noobness my last handheld system was a stock palm 600 that took me 3 days to run over with 80,000LBS,dont really want to do that again.
Well you're off to a good start. As far as fast internet goes there's really nothing you can do about that. You're driving around in a truck all day and your speed is going to only be affected by the strength and type (evdo/3G/LTE) of your signal. Wireless tether can only be as fast in "giving" its internet as the internet its "receiving."
As far as speed of your thunderbolt goes your best bet will be a streamlined rom and a kernel that supports over-clocking. I only use setcpu for over-clocking and all the kernels I've used as of late have worked with it's auto-detect frequency setting. Its very simple to use you just use a max and min slider to adjust the range that the processor should reside in based on your phone's ever changing processing "needs". This allows you to mitigate the downside of over-clocking which is battery drain but since you're almost always plugged in no big deal. For your situation check out Imoseyon's kernels. There's one that can be overclocked to 1.92Ghz but be warned few phones will be stable at this speed. Make a "heat profile" under profiles in set cpu and set it to run at stock speed whence you reach 50C. Then move your max slider up one notch and use it heavily for an hour. Every time you move up and are stable, repeat. When you are no longer stable drop one notch and that's the best performance you can get.
It's like Seinfeld said, "Find out what will kill me, then back it off a notch."
Good luck
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As far as fast internet goes there's really nothing you can do about that. You're driving around in a truck all day and your speed is going to only be affected by the strength and type (evdo/3G/LTE) of your signal.
Good luck
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Thanx ill check out Imoseyon's kernels.I did bump my cpu all the way to 1920,highest it hit was 48c (but it is mounted in front of a/c vent)running almost as much as i could through at it (for now) im sure i can find some more stuff to try...lol thanx for that info as what to keep a eye on.
as far as the internet i knew it can do only what it can get, more of the type question there was I dont know what all the settings in the tether app "channel frequency,and lan network settings" along with in the advanced radio info "toggle ciphering,toggle DNS check " I assume the best to make sure it gets best available would be the "CMDA + LTE/EvDo auto" setting and what is the "CMDA auto(PRL)? to update prl automatically?
Just wondering if anyone is using PMR, what settings you are using. Never used it before, and just got my LGOG last night, so I am a double noob.
I stayed away from kernel tweaks but tried just about everything else with no problems. Gave some slightly noticeable speed increases in some areas.
quardrant score only went up about 200 fully loaded though.
If you dont know what the script is going to do dont use it. Safest way to go about it. Some have pretty clear explanations.
Edit: The one time i did use kernel tweaks i got bootloops but i think i had them all selected. Download the app from the store so you can download the unpimp zip in case you have problems.
The phone is so damn fast out of the box I would never notice any tweaks I don't think
So basically the title says all. I'm planning to use this device a little bit longer, and the only problem with it is the battery life - but I love everything else, like the display, the sound, the design. I was a wonder to root before few months but feels like at this point, at least with Samsung you losing more than you will gain with root. Like Samsung Pass, Samsung Health and Security folder. I know there is a way to recreate them but not sure is worth it all the work. Although, I tihnk is worth it to sacrifice those (but I really will miss Samsung pass), to have a better battery life.
So my question is, if I root my device, put some custom rom + some app like Greenify, will be I able to have a better battery life than now? At the moment I make around 3h of sot, which maybe is normal for device +1 year old. But I can't trust it when I'm going out. Always need to carry a power bank with me, just in case...
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So basically the title says all. I'm planning to use this device a little bit longer, and the only problem with it is the battery life - but I love everything else, like the display, the sound, the design. I was a wonder to root before few months but feels like at this point, at least with Samsung you losing more than you will gain with root. Like Samsung Pass, Samsung Health and Security folder. I know there is a way to recreate them but not sure is worth it all the work. Although, I tihnk is worth it to sacrifice those (but I really will miss Samsung pass), to have a better battery life.
So my question is, if I root my device, put some custom rom + some app like Greenify, will be I able to have a better battery life than now? At the moment I make around 3h of sot, which maybe is normal for device +1 year old. But I can't trust it when I'm going out. Always need to carry a power bank with me, just in case...
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yes, installing a custom ROM will likely increase your battery life so as that the kernel that the ROM youve chosen is optimized for efficiency. If the ROM you choose is overclocked beast-mode gaming champion settings enabled, then no. Some ROMs are also very stripped down eliminating seldom used apks thereby increasing batt life as well. What model do you have? if its the g965u, you aint rootin it fwiw
Thanks for the response!
Yes, I understand boosting or using some modes for performance can lead to worst battery life. My device is G965F. As for now, I'm planning to wait for the final version of Android 10. Then I guess would wait for developers to update their ROMs and chose the lite one?
Leon said:
Thanks for the response!
Yes, I understand boosting or using some modes for performance can lead to worst battery life. My device is G965F. As for now, I'm planning to wait for the final version of Android 10. Then I guess would wait for developers to update their ROMs and chose the lite one?
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Youre most welcome!
If you do that, you might be waiting for a while as Samsung has been recently pushing to make root more and more difficult. If youre dead set on rooting, id do it now and avoid the pitfalls of being on a bootloader version that you cant go back to your old one from and waiting for the devs to figure out the new source code etc etc.