Switching from Samsung - Sprint LG G3

So I am going to consider purchasing an LG G3 after a not-so-great experience with the Galaxy S5 and then the disappointing news that the S6 is doing away with user replaceable battery.
Here is my question....
How reliable has the G3 been so far? Are there any common issues? Is it pretty easy to root / customize? If I do run a custom ROM, is it capable of being restored to factory in a way that they will never know? I.E. can I return it under warranty if there are issues?

For starters sorry about your issue(s) with your Samsung (glad I didn't get one). So far the G3 has been pretty great for the most part. The only really common problem is the fact the phone heats up (not that bad). It is really easy to root all you have to do is be on stock ZV4 and all you have to do is download this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/root-stump-root-lg-g3-sprint-verizon-t2850906 and press a button it takes less then 10 minutes. It is pretty easy to customize depending on what you want to do if you really don't mind it you can stay on kitkat and use this xposed module: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792242 it has a ton of customization/mods. It is really easy to get back to stock, with this phone you don't have to worry about tripping any flags like with knox or on htc's all you have to do is follow this guide and you will be taken back to 100% stock. Here's the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...de-how-to-restore-sprint-lg-g3-ls990-t2852042 it even wipes out twrp and everything so there is really no way to ever tell you were rooted.

I went ahead and made a thread for rooting our devices: http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...rint-ls990-t3046496/post59227881#post59227881 it may help you decide

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[Q] Getting a Galaxy Tab 10.1 4G, some general questions

Well I'm getting a Galaxy Tab 10.1 4G soon from my carrier, Rogers. I have absolutely no experience with Android so this will all be new to me. I am curious about a couple of things.
I heard that it'll come pre-installed with TouchWiz. How could I change it so that I have the pure Honeycomb experience (custom ROM?) while maintaining the ability to connect to my carrier (Rogers)?
I'm aware of how to root it after reading this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
Is there any difference in rooting a device from Rogers and what should I look out for?
I was also told that the tablet has a flash counter that would allow Samsung to know if I rooted my tablet voiding my warranty. Is there any way to bypass it?
Do you have suggestions for apps to install?
Any other general tips?
Thanks!
Honestly touhwiz is not that bad on honecomb. Try it out.
But only way to get a pure android is experience with honeycomb experience is rooting, but that i am aware im not to sure if there is a pure honeycomb rom out there. They're mainly based on the samsung updates.
Like i said try touchwiz out, if you don't like wait until cm9 comes out and try ics.
Yep; dont worry about Touchwizz; it is far form being as much intrusive as most other UI; it is really light.
In fact, it is barely like 3-4 homescreen-disposable widgets plus 6 more embedded in the system bar that you wont probably ever trigger (or remember) after the first couple of days..
Rogers GTab10.1 "faux-G" ; after a couple days of use; it is really great. It never let me down nor gave me any "force close" of any kind.
Now, if you can live with only 16gb, not expendable, and you dont mind 'bout HDMI-Out either (adapters exists, but are expensive), it is really a good choice.
Regarding battery life; it is a tank.
And 3/3.5/faux-G speed is more than enough;
Unless you plan to rely on this for your next Battlefield 3 tournament, LTE is a luxury you can afford to skip.
im also wondering about the flash counter...
where and how can you check it to see if its more than 0?
what will make it go up to 1, is it flashing anything other than samsung files through Odin? or can you still flash anything through odin such as ROM's and needed files to get root but as long as they are based on stock kernel the flash counter wont go up to 1?

[Q] Rooted a while back - what can I do now?

I've been using the phone since I rooted it pretty much the day after I got it. I'm still running touchwiz and would like to flash something that is far lighter, removes bloat, includes ability to use hotspot and just runs faster. I've not done much of anything besides confirm root. I am familiar with most of the terms and not afraid to get my hands dirty.
I will need some easy-to-follow steps if at all possible. I'm in need of being able to backup apps, contacts, data/pictures/etc before I flash anything (I assume I will lose all of them). I'd love recommendations on a good ROM to suit my needs too. I guess I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed and not sure what I can do and then exactly how to go about it without losing anything or bricking my phone.
current build: I545VRUEMK2
Thank you in advance for your patience and help!

To install custom rom or not. What did you decide?

I made a similar post on the Google+ S5 group and the results actually surprised me. Majority said no, when I was almost certain it would be the other way around. I guess devices nowadays are good enough with simple root!
What did you guys decide? Did you install a custom rom? Or you left it somewhat stock (I'm not counting xposed + root as custom rom)
Simple root for me. I use titanium to disable apps I don't need and fix the write to SD that kitkat broke
I decided to with the Project Infinity rom. It's pretty good in the sense that all the bloatware is removed. There weren't as many ROMs as the previous Galaxy iterations though. No more paranoid or cyanogen mods. Besides that, there aren't many major changes to touchwiz so I also installed an Icon pack with nova launcher to get a more stock look. Overall, I feel that it's better but to each his own. Some people like it, some people don't care. Whatever choice you make, the S5 will still be pretty solid.
So far I'm sticking with stock + root + Xposed.
The inability to reverse the Knox flag is just a little too unsettling at this point -- especially since the first S5 I picked up with my JUMP upgrade was a lemon. (The screen died repeatedly-- refusing to switch on for hours and then temporarily fixing itself -- the first time just 45 seconds after I left the T-Mobile store.) Then again my new S5 is only 2 days old, having just burned a JUMP insurance claim and upgrade, so possibly I'll be a little less uptight about Knox flags once I'm 12 months down the line.
Also I'm not hugely demanding of my devices in terms of performance, beyond wanting decent battery life, so I don't really need custom kernels and ultra-streamlined and debloated ROMs if stock performs well enough. Xposed and other root utilities/tweaks allow for a decent amount of customization and debloating anyway, it just takes more individual legwork.
The main drawback I see is the lack of nandroid, which is always a nice fallback option. That's kind of a nagging thought in the back of my mind. My only customization complaint so far is an inability to tweak Touchwiz's ugly-ass color scheme and clunky layout in the notification drawer to a satisfying degree. (Wanam Xposed allows a certain degree of color control but the QuickSetting toggle colors are driving me nuts. )
overfloater said:
So far I'm sticking with stock + root + Xposed.
The inability to reverse the Knox flag is just a little too unsettling at this point -- especially since the first S5 I picked up with my JUMP upgrade was a lemon. (The screen died repeatedly-- refusing to switch on for hours and then temporarily fixing itself -- the first time just 45 seconds after I left the T-Mobile store.) Then again my new S5 is only 2 days old, having just burned a JUMP insurance claim and upgrade, so possibly I'll be a little less uptight about Knox flags once I'm 12 months down the line.
Also I'm not hugely demanding of my devices in terms of performance, beyond wanting decent battery life, so I don't really need custom kernels and ultra-streamlined and debloated ROMs if stock performs well enough. Xposed and other root utilities/tweaks allow for a decent amount of customization and debloating anyway, it just takes more individual legwork.
The main drawback I see is the lack of nandroid, which is always a nice fallback option. That's kind of a nagging thought in the back of my mind. My only customization complaint so far is an inability to tweak Touchwiz's ugly-ass color scheme and clunky layout in the notification drawer to a satisfying degree. (Wanam Xposed allows a certain degree of color control but the QuickSetting toggle colors are driving me nuts. )
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As far as I was told when you do an insurance claim, it does not count against your jump. Mine didn't
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As far as I was told when you do an insurance claim, it does not count against your jump. Mine didn't
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Sorry, that should really have read "insurance claim and JUMP upgrade". I was on an S4 before, so when I made the claim I took the opportunity to cash in an upgrade at the same time and replace it with a new S5 (rather than adding unnecessary extra steps by waiting on a replacement S4 and taking that into a store to upgrade). It does, however, mean that I've both put myself on a new payment plan for the S5 (so under the new JUMP terms I can't upgrade again until it's 50% paid off) and also burned 1 of my 2 insurance claims for a 12 month period. So I don't really want to jeopardize any warranty or other claims by blowing Knox unnecessarily.
Coderedpl said:
I made a similar post on the Google+ S5 group and the results actually surprised me. Majority said no, when I was almost certain it would be the other way around. I guess devices nowadays are good enough with simple root!
What did you guys decide? Did you install a custom rom? Or you left it somewhat stock (I'm not counting xposed + root as custom rom)
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I have been using Omega rom for years and across many devices so it's great to have it again on the S5. I actually switched from an AT&T S5 to a T-Mobile S5 (unlocked and using it on AT&T) because the TMO S5 could run Omega where the AT&T with a locked bootloader could not. Primarily because you cannot install a rom that uses the Aroma installer on Safe Strap (the AT&T S5's version of a custom recovery.)
So on Omega all's well. Very stable, great battery life, all the bloatware gone (except for what I chose to have on the phone.)
There is just way too much bloatware and crap on the stock AT&T and TMO roms. If nothing else, I'd run a debloated rom just to get away from all the bloat and crap.
Bought the phone outright so I'm not worried about knox and all that..
I'm actually fully stock. TW has grown on me, though it gets sluggish sometime. I would probably root later down the road and remove the bloatware.
What bothers me about stock is that I seem to be getting some stupid stuttering and sluggishness without a solid reason as to why it happens .
I did indeed install a Custom ROM.
I installed CM11 from the unified development on my phone. I kept my touchwiz backup just in case i might really need it for whatever reasons, The only reason to keep stock IMO is the WiFi calling feature. Only real complaint about stock is the signal bars in the status bar, it shows 2 bars while searching for service.... CM11 doesn't do that.
I am with you, stock with not bloatware is the way to go for me
gspears said:
I have been using Omega rom for years and across many devices so it's great to have it again on the S5. I actually switched from an AT&T S5 to a T-Mobile S5 (unlocked and using it on AT&T) because the TMO S5 could run Omega where the AT&T with a locked bootloader could not. Primarily because you cannot install a rom that uses the Aroma installer on Safe Strap (the AT&T S5's version of a custom recovery.)
So on Omega all's well. Very stable, great battery life, all the bloatware gone (except for what I chose to have on the phone.)
There is just way too much bloatware and crap on the stock AT&T and TMO roms. If nothing else, I'd run a debloated rom just to get away from all the bloat and crap.
Bought the phone outright so I'm not worried about knox and all that..
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I am usin XtreStoLite Rom with Aroma Installer, great ROM
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I am usin XtreStoLite Rom with Aroma Installer, great ROM
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I actually moved to this ROM from CyanogenMod.
TW has grown on me a bit. :silly:
what is the point on getting samsung if....
Exel said:
I actually moved to this ROM from CyanogenMod.
TW has grown on me a bit. :silly:
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You don't use TW ?
Alliance ROM 5.5. KT kernel on NG4 baseband. For me it's the perfect balance of options, performance and battery.

What do you suggest

HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.4.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
stewbuntu said:
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.2.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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My bad 4.4.2 and I do see 10B build # KVT49L.VS98510B model # has 10b too
Thanks guys, good info and stuff to research
Colchiro said:
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
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I knew I didn't want Samsung/[email protected] so I spent a while looking at other options and the G3 seemed great with Micro SD and replaceable battery. I can't understand what companies are thinking with no SD slot and not being able to swap batteries when they go bad, or on the fly (although I do 12 hr shifts). Ever since my Motorolla Atrix 3G I have missed glitch free daily drivers My fingers are crossed
So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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Locked bootloaders is why I switched to LG. I'm not alone.
I haven't tried any custom roms. I don't like to lose some of the features I like, like knock and stock camera, so haven't messed with custom roms for a couple years. Debloated stock G3 works fine for me....
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Why should I unlock and root my V30?

I've been a long time advocate of unlocking and rooting my devices, dating back to Windows Mobile. I loved the ability of dump bloated carrier apps, use Titanium BackUp to save and restore apps, and enable root-specific apps and features. Then, about the time I switched to a LG G5, the ability to unlock became a rarity. Around that time, I found that the LG BackUp allowed me to preform an easy restore after a system reset, carrier apps were easier to ignore and I found that rooting wasn't as much of a necessity as I remembered. Fast forward to the news that a method was discovered that allowed almost all V30s to be unlocked and rooted. My question is this: Is it really worth it to unlock and root my phone, or flash a custom ROM when this exploit will undoubtedly be patched soon? This leaves the owner to remain on the outdated firmware, which has possible security risks. Also, rooting the phone will most likely disable Android Pay, which I use regularly. Finally, one of the big selling points of this phone was the two-year warranty, which could be voided if unlocked.
I think it's great that people can finally unlock this phone, but I'd like to know what are the main reasons people are using this method and why they feel that it outweighs the risks. I've been out of the rooting/flashing loop for a while, so I'm looking forward to hearing the responses.
Thanks!
If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you had flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ.
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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Sorry... as I said, it's been a while since I rooted a phone, so I was off the mark on the update part. As for Android Pay, the last time I tried to use is on a rooted phone I got a failure notice. I have no idea what Magisk is, so that's exactly why I'm asking my original question. I'm looking for honest answers... not insults.
One other thing that I noticed was that the recommended method was the convert to the US998 Oreo in North America. The G5 I has was the carrier unlocked version which I used on Verizon. While it worked great, a couple features weren't compatible. For example, Advanced Calling only enabled HD Voice. Video Calling was unavailable. Also, Verizon visual voicemail didn't work, so most people switched to Google Voice. That caused issues with call forwarding to my LG Urbane 2. All of this things may have been resolved since then, and if they are please let me know.
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If you think you'll remain on outdated firmware you don't know much about rooting.
ROMs get monthly Android security updates. Does LG do that?
If you want to stay on stock firmware, you can flash any updated KDZ. I've been rooted since January and I flashed Oreo KDZ. I'm currently as updated as LG allows for US998'
You can have all the updates you want. Not sure why you don't think so.
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No rooting doesn't disable Android Pay. That's the whole idea of Magisk.
This topic almost smells of Troll.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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@ChazzMatt, I would not think he's trolling, as I had the very same question. I had rooted all my phones, up to the S8 Plus. Then I got a deal I could not pass on the V30 ($300 in pristine, practically new condition) and it did not take me more than a couple of days to see I liked it way more than the S8 and one of the reasons for that was that I did not feel like I needed to change anything to it. Great performance and sound, almost no bloatware and excellent battery life. So, knowing that the loophole might get patched I did unlock the bootloader but have remained stock, lurking in the rom threads until something compelling arises that make me root and leave stock behind. By the way I must thank you because you have helped so many of us in these guides.
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I'll give a more complete answer later tonight when I get home.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Just the ability to cut off most ads with AdAway is compelling enough for me to root, even if it voids the warranty.
Cannot stand all the crass obnoxious ads.
The smartphone hardware is amazingly reliable nowadays, once it survives the infant mortality phase (initial failures). I figure the 30 day return period is there for infant mortality, if the phone makes it past that it is extremely likely to survive 2 years. Especially a phone like the V30 with IP68 and some MIL-STD-810 ruggedness. So in my opinion the warranty risk assumed by rooting is very slight.
(Just spilled milk on my V30S yesterday. Rinsed it off, let it dry, good to go. )
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In case of forgotten WiFi password, Wifi generator will need root and help you see your saved SSID & passwords. If you have a custom kernel, play with CPU governors either for balanced performance/battery life (Does different CPU governors responsible for the UI smoothness but reduce battery life by a few minutes?) I'll take software smoothness over battery life anyday since I carry a powerbank. BBS app needs root to check the wakelocks so that we know what's draining the battery. LG for life. Innovates awesomeness and doesn't copy others is like MERCEDES-BENZ. The Best Or Nothing.
1) Philosophy of ownership.
You paid several hundred dollars for this small handheld computer. And if you are not the "administrator", then you don't really own it. Someone else does, either the manufacturer or the carrier.
In large companies, at all the workplace desktop computers, none of the regular workers are allowed to be "admin" or "administrator". The company doesn't want you installing your own software or uninstalling their software. They often have software to track the computer usage, as it's THEIR computer anyway. You have no rights, no expectation of privacy. You are using their hardware.
At HOME, you are the admin of your own personal computer. You can do whatever you wish. Should be the same with your smartphone.
1.5 years ago Samsung sent a BRICK command via OTA update to their Galaxy 7 Note phones on purpose, to force people to return those phones for a different model. No, not all Galaxy 7 phones had the battery flaw, but Samsung deemed it in THEIR best interest to take back all the Galaxy 7 Note phones and replace them with older Galaxy S7 or S7+ phones. This was only possible because Samsung still REALLY OWNED those phones, even though people had paid several hundred dollars to USE them. Until your phone is rooted, someone else owns the phone.
2) MORE FEATURES
Better audio (Viper, etc), HIM mode on ALL headphones, Wi-Fi passwords remembered and viewable, scheduled auto reboots to clear out RAM and start the day fresh, free ad blocking without having to use VPN. You can install a volume control app that will give you 30 or even 100 volume steps. You can install an xposed mod that will let you change the idiotic battery icons in the status bar.
3) TWRP CUSTOM RECOVERY
The ability to make frequent backups that you can restore in a few minutes is an amazing feature itself. It's like having a time machine to go back before you made a mistake.
You can also use TWRP to flash/install apps and mods to make your phone more fun. Install the fonts/emojis of Android P NOW.
4) TITANIUM BACKUP
Gives you "system level" control to backup and restore previous versions of apps. You can also make some user apps be "system" apps to give them more power (like a camera or volume control app) or you can completely uninstall "system" apps a carrier installed for THEIR benefit, not yours (i.e. bloatware, which they make money on).
MORE later. I have to go to work.
There are workarounds to give you some similar features of root like VPN ad blocking -- but in doing speed tests I have higher pings (more lag) as all data is going through a VPN network before I see it. Pure root is just better, for some many reasons.

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