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I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
sawbuck00 said:
I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
The difference from your current setup is that right now, the core of the device is still based on B&N version of Android. The alternate user interface is nothing more than a tease of what Android is truly capable of. A custom rom opens up many more doors and should be a much smoother experience.
Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
A bit to more to chew on....
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
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Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
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Thank you, Cubanluke88, for you thoughts and suggestions.
First, I did grab your first linked post and realized some misconceptions. I still need to digest it more thoroughly, though.
On the part of your response that I have edited out in the qoute, I also want to read more troroughly and pose some questions in a later response.
As for the final suggestion, I have been eyeing the Nexus 7 for some time ane even though it is a bit more expensive than the nook Tablet I currently own I think I might get it (or a similar device) when fortune and convenience presents itself. For now, I am still in a learning mode with the Android-like device I currentlhy have and need to read and educate myself further. As stated in my opening post - I am a noob - there is a lot of experimenting I need to do.
I will be replying with some questions after more reading and thought on your offered suggestions in the section I edited out for the time being.....
questions....again
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
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Cubanluke88,
Thanks again for giving me something to think about.
I have read/reread both of your linked posts and your complete response to my post. Further, it is useful to comment that with my nook Tablet hardware it is not at all important for me to have the BN OS. I have a classic nook eink that is totally satisfactory for anything I may need for BN usage alone - mostly, ebook purchase and reading. I purchased the tablet as a means to get access to Android applications not possible from the nook classic which was also hopeless as a general web access device. As a rooted Android device, I anticipate it's nook app to be satisfactory as an ebook reader as well.
Referring to the quoted segment of you initial response:
Still have that custom recovery card?
Yes.
Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store) Store these files on your internal storage..
Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
I appreciate the help and apologise for the need for spoon feeeding but I hope it helps avoid making further mistakes......
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
Thanks in advance....
sawbuck00 said:
Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
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That .img file is what you used to create the sdcard your wife and you used. Just as with the recovery sd card, you take said .img file and burn it to it to create a "bootable" sdcard. Thats not what we want to do now (if you're ready to replace the stock OS). Go to this thread for cm7. See where it says "Internal version 8GB & 16GB Compatiable?" Grab that. That is the rom zip file itself. To get gapps, youll need cm7 compatible gapps, found here.
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
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By internal storage, I'm referring to the internal storage on the Nook itself. (like what you see when you mount it via USB on your computer). It should come up as "My Nook" or something to that effect. If you store the rom zip file here, you will be able to boot into recovery via the sdcard you created, navigate to the internal storage and find the zip file and install it. Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
The easiest way to get a custom recovery is via this app here. Simply install the app and flash the custom recovery within it. Its also a great tool to return to stock recovery should you ever need to.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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Yep.
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Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
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Its in the recovery menu there right at the front. You should see something like reboot system, apply sdcard, wipedata/factory reset, wipe cache, install zip, backup and restore. Backup/restore to backup your current installation, install zip to install the rom + gapps, and wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache after installation.
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
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I'm not sure what this is. I'll take a look at it.
Cubanluke88 said:
Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
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Read much of the following thread and while I think it will be simpler in the future I assume I can do that at any time. Right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458630
Albert Wertz's youtube video throws a lot of stuff into the process which looks very interesting but I think I'll "crawl" around a bit and use recovery card for little longer while I become more familiar with a rooted tablet.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......
Note that if you install cm7 to the device, you are not simply on a "rooted" tablet anymore. You will be on a custom rom that also happens to have root access (most custom roms do). Its also worth noting that cm7 is a custom rom based on Android 2.3.4, so the roms capabilities and limitations will be subsequently limited to what cm7 is capable of. The latest version of Android is 4.1 and we are lucky enough to have a custom rom (cm10) in development based on it.
sawbuck00;33537204.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......[/QUOTE said:
Well it seemed to go smoothly. Currently geting updates downloaded. Back to exploring and experimenting....
Thank you, Cubanluke88, for help and advice. I expect I'll be back in awhile when I'm ready to install the internal recovery app and probably will screw things up at some point but it is my aim to get a better understanding the capabilities......
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undeeded apps
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
sawbuck00 said:
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
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They're there because cm7 is a port of a phone based OS (Android 2.3 was designed for phones). You can disable them but I believe camera is tied to gallery so that could screw up picture viewing and phone might be tied to contacts so that could screw up your contacts database if you use gmail. If you have a file explorer that has root access (I use root explorer, paid app in play store), you can navigate to /system/apps and all the apks for those apps (system apps) are found there. You can add a ".bak" extension to each one, then reboot and see if anything breaks. If for some reason things break really badly, you can always reboot to recovery and just flash the rom on top of it again.
I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
JBMFT said:
I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
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The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
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The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
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Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
JBMFT said:
Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
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Using Odin to re-flash the stock ROM will automatically setup the right configuration for. Do Not delete the files in /dev/block these are critical to the phones operation and part of the phones normal partitioning and operation as previously stated deleting these will cause a lot of problems if you delete them. If you really want to free up some internal storage space I would recommend deleting the carrier pre-installed bloatware, before you delete any bloatware makesure to backup the apps you deleted with Titanium Backup or a similar backup or flash Clockworkmod Recovery or Team Win Recovery Project and make a Nandroid Backup which is a complete backup of your phone. And don't worry about being gun shy we are all beginners at some point the only real way to become an expert if practice, practice, practice .
So I am working on the Heimdall One-Click.
Handshaking with loke, got no response. FML.
Help.
Edited: Apparently a low battery is not your friend...
after a little reading around on the net I tried a different one and BAM.
Back to stock. We'll see how this goes.
Being rooted with superuser had me spoiled...so much bloatware.
At the moment I'm on the original stock rom, rooted, and i keep getting the low storage warning, but i don't even have very many apps on the phone. I've deleted much of verizons bloat, at least anything i see as safe and dont use, but it still keeps popping up, I havent tried a different rom yet, but plan on it, just havent been able to get a nandroid to stick and work right yet for some reason, but working on it at the moment. Does anyone find that any particular roms help more with the memory issue than others? I had the 16gb s3 and never had this problem. Ive looked for ways to put apps to the sd but havent found any yet unless im missing something. Does anyone have any tips on the best way to work around this? Ive gone through the entire internal storage and there doesn't even seem to be much on it. Once i get a nandroid to work i'm going to try messing around a bit more, but any advice is helpful as im sure im not the only one to come across this.
Might wanna check to see where these nandroid backups that you've attempted are being stored. They do go towards internal memory unfortunately until you can move over to external sd. I'm in the same boat as you. Stock rooted, but afraid to flash a custom ROM since my backups seem to have a md5 mismatch when trying to restore (on CWM)...havent tried on TWRP...Honestly don't really see a whole lot out there as far as custom ROM's that seem that great...yet. I've modded my stock rom to suit my needs just fine...
there might be something still lingering when you remove some softwares. Check system/app or data/app and see if something that still needs to be remove.
Removing system apps (ie, bloat) will not gain you any usable space.
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I think my problem may be that all my pictures are saving to both my external sd and internal for some reason...no idea why though...it also keeps taking my music off the sd and copying it to internal mem...I finally got a good nandroid using cwm, seems the touch version want working but the reg one has and I deleted all my bad nandroids...now that I have that I'm going to a deodexed Rom n hopefully that helps being I've never had issues on the s3 with them
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For those who have the same problem, you can try checking the log files in /data/log
I had the same problem and found hundred of RIL dump files (each about 1 MB size).
Deleting these files help to solve my problem and increase the available space in Internal Storage.
Where's my storage...?
I understand that Samsung is getting grief for how much memory they use, but I just wanted to post my storage up here to see how it compares to other S4 users. Does the OS/partitions used for things like cache take up memory in addition to the 7 GB of "system information" ?
I've got 1.55 GB to Applications, 191 MB to photos, nothing in downloads or audio, and 6.85 in "Miscellaneous files"
I have a Hero H7300 (Chinese Clone HTC HD7). Never did like the Chinese programming but the phone itself is great. The only problem with this phone is the lack of internal memory and the original programming.
I found someone that offered to "root" this phone. He gave me a 75% success result. The first time I got it back, it worked find for a week until one day it refused to come out of the start up screen. The tech took it back for a few weeks and it was clear he made some improvements but I ended up paying more than I first intended. After a total of about $70 invested in memory upgrade and the rooting itself, he added a restore file and better stability. The problem came about the same time as the first time. After restoring the backup file, all I had lost was what I installed after receiving the phone. The problem I have now is, after restoring the back up file, somehow the partition went back to it's original size. Much of my internal memory went back to the external.
So, out of the 13.91GB total space. I have 12.53GB available in external and only 21.61MB available after basic programming. Originally after the second rooting, I had about 1.5GB available on the internal side of the SD card that is sharing the external and internal memory.
Being that I am in the Philippines, it is very difficult to find anyone that even knows what rooting is so there does not seem to be any way I am going to find someone that could possibly fix this. I know nothing about rooting myself but it seems to me that something happened to the partition. Is there a program that will allow me to set the partition myself?
Model number H7300 Android 2.3 MTK6573
Android Version 2.3.5
Baseband Version MAUI.11AMD.W11.37.SP.V6,2011/10/29 13:22
Kernel Version 2.6.35.7
Build number VitMod_Lite 2.1.fullodex Bunta V8 Edit
So I got given a lenovo tab the other day, i'm completely new to tablets and android software but it didn't take me long to fill up the native storage and this is where the program loophole began.
I had a few micro 32gb sdcards sitting around, so I did a speed check on them and put in the fastest one in the lenovo tab, after installing a good few programs which states they move programs to sdcards, which they do to a degree but nothing was better than the already built in move app to sdcard. I then found out about that to be able to take advantage of the sdcard fully, you need a rooted device.
This is where I found kingroot, which I then installed and started to use, after finishing up installing the standard health programs (antivirus, malware scanners etc), which flagged kinguser. After doing a bit of research about this program, I decided that I didn't feel safe using it, so I was looking around for alternatives.
I then found out, the program didn't like to be uninstalled so I started to use supersume pro, which did a good job removing kingroot but it didn't install super su as stated.
I am now in the process off trying to install twrp (which is proving to be more difficult than any other stage of this process), so i can then install super su, so i can use folder mount (this turned out to be the best program of them all imo), which in turn will allow me to use my sdcard.
This is where I am stuck, I have installed the drivers to pc, installed minimal adb and fastboot, also I have installed android studio. I have been able to use fastboot from the pc to send commands too the tablet but the bit that's confusing me is, how to tell the fastboot tablet to pull the twrp file from the sdcard ?
Or is there a vast simpler way of doing what I am trying to do, in the safest possible way.
tldr: What is the 'safest' way to root my tab for a newbie so i can use the sdcard fully at my discretion without being sent into a program loophole. Apologies for any bad grammar, it was never my strong point.
Nevermind, I managed to do it after 5 painstakingly days with hardly any sleep to rectify this issue, although I nearly bricked it in the process by installing the wrong twrp file but thankfully with all the info on this website, I have managed to undo all the problems and re root successfully and 'safely' using twrp and supersu zip as guided in another topic on this forum. So thanks to all developers and users, my tablet is now spyware and adware free for the most part.
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Nevermind, I managed to do it after 5 painstakingly days with hardly any sleep to rectify this issue, although I nearly bricked it in the process by installing the wrong twrp file but thankfully with all the info on this website, I have managed to undo all the problems and re root successfully and 'safely' using twrp and supersu zip as guided in another topic on this forum. So thanks to all developers and users, my tablet is now spyware and adware free for the most part.
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Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
.acy said:
Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
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Hello... I do not know of your experience with android devices... But it probably will not help looking for "rooted roms"
Try googling "tb3-710f custom rom" or "tb3-710f stock rom" or "tb3-710f firmware".
If you are successful in finding firmware/rom then look for a guide to root. I myself have some experience, I will also see if I can assist you with more information through pm' s.
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.acy said:
Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
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Actually... take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/tb3-710i-tb3-710f-rom-stock-rom-lenovo-t3437810. @PhatBmt009 seems to have a collection of everything you might need to root in regards to your device. I did not go through the whole thread though to see if the process is explained.
Please take a look by yourself and hit PhatBmt009's thanks button if you find the information helpful.
Good luck!!! :good:
r&xp said:
Hello... I do not know of your experience with android devices... But it probably will not help looking for "rooted roms"
Try googling "tb3-710f custom rom" or "tb3-710f stock rom" or "tb3-710f firmware".
If you are successful in finding firmware/rom then look for a guide to root. I myself have some experience, I will also see if I can assist you with more information through pm' s.
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Actually... take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/tb3-710i-tb3-710f-rom-stock-rom-lenovo-t3437810. @PhatBmt009 seems to have a collection of everything you might need to root in regards to your device. I did not go through the whole thread though to see if the process is explained.
Please take a look by yourself and hit PhatBmt009's thanks button if you find the information helpful.
Good luck!!! :good:
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That is great advice, once you know for a fact you have the original firmware for you're device and learn how to use adb or fastboot, then you can start to play around a bit with some of the software. I probably went through about 50 websites absorbing as much info as I can and the rest comes with trial and error with a big fear off bricking the device and the only thing you can do to really brick it, is by corrupting the data to a point of not turning on, which is why I was learning on a cheap tab like the tb3, which is a great tab for the price.
In the end for me it was just a case off installing twrp, theres 3 variants here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=80021 so massive props to Tzul, which then allowed me install supersu zip to root the device, how safe supersu is, I have no idea yet but so far its way safer than kinguser or one click root from what I have read.
Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
ComatosedUser said:
Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
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Ooops... Anyway...
Did you at any point allow TWRP to make modifications to the system?? I found that when I did that on my device it totally destroyed partition structures and went into infinite boot loops.
Also while i was trying to fix any issues (pretty much like you right now though TWRP) I noticed that when I tried to flash either supersu or twrp again or something else, I was getting a ton of red system messages not being able to mount partitions.
If that is your case, unfortunately, you might need to re-flash...
You might want to also check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lenovo-tab-3-8-tb3-850f-unbrick-root-t3598727
After applying these steps, both superuser and TWRP have had no issues with anything!!! (fingers crossed, until today that is... )
Keep us informed, especially if you find a way to actually overcome this without flashing stock and doing everything from the beginning.
Good luck for now! :good:
Thanks I wish I saw you're thread before, it would have saved me a lot of time early on but, oh boy what a day I have had with this device today, I am not sure what I did to fix it but i basically did the same steps again to wipe the cache and clear the data within twrp then rebooted. What I didn't realize was in the process of disconnecting the battery, the case snapped off part of the sdcard (so to all noobs like me, MAKE SURE TO TAKE SDCARD OUT BEFORE TAKING CASE OFF) which in turn caused a short somewhere, the device started to get really warm and twrp was showing the cpu getting to 53c, I quickly dc the battery again and pulled the sdcard, I went and got a replacement card
After a succesful reboot, the device booted up as normal so a big phew there, now a lot of the apps/games that was previously installed and linked to the sdcard are having some difficulty re downloading and installing with a few errors, some have been succesful but now i'm wondering if a full wipe will be in order here ? as the internal storage is still showing only 1gb free but I also want to keep twrp and supersu.
The original thought process was using the least amount of internal storage as possible since I have a hi speed 64gb sdcard and some games apps was still taking up a lot off the 8gb internal space, as some didn't like a full link via apps2sd with the internal data but with the ones that was succesfull didn't have any noticable slow load times. I would like to keep the dalvik cache of all programs on the internal storage if this helps with speed ? or does that not matter.
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The original thought process was using the least amount of internal storage as possible since I have a hi speed 64gb sdcard and some games apps was still taking up a lot off the 8gb internal space, as some didn't like a full link via apps2sd with the internal data but with the ones that was succesfull didn't have any noticable slow load times. I would like to keep the dalvik cache of all programs on the internal storage if this helps with speed ? or does that not matter.
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Congrads on reviving the device!:good::good:
Out of the 8 Gigs, how much space does the whole system occupy? Did you try to remove bloatware? Did you use any similar app to root uninstaller to get rid of unwanted/ unused apps?
To my limited understanding it would require some extended knowledge in programming to re-assign partitions (ie cache) or making other than default partitions actually become the default partitions for any purpose.
Anyway... I can understand how 8Gigs internal storage can be limited... You can try:
1. Since you have custom recovery installed, 1st and most essential step is to make full backup of EVERYTHING! Just enter TWRP hit backup and choose EVERYTHING in the options of what to backup. This will most probably not destroy the communication between external SD and system (in regards to installed apps) the next time you might need a recovery (as long as you will not make changes to the SD card in the meanwhile).
Make the backup file to an external SD. I personally use a 16GB micro SD only for backing up purposes!!!
2. After you have everything in backup, install a program similar to root essentials or root uninstaller and try to get rid of anything you do not use. This might give the system some space to "breathe"...
Let me know. I got rid of a whole bunch of stuff out of my tb3-850f tablet and the system now 'rocks' (not to mention the extended battery life...)
You can even uninstall default apps like any default system picture viewer (that consumes space in your system) and install QuickPic from the/and to the SD card. Same with video player. Uninstall system video player and install something in the likes of MX Player from/and to the ext. SD. You can make a whole bunch of tweaks and uninstalling depending on your needs. I have even uninstalled most of Lenovo related apps.
Let me know how it goes. For some reason I think you are quite experienced and perhaps you knew all these already!?! Anyhow, let me know if I can be of more help.
This whole website has been a great help and helped me learn the process again, I do have extensive knowledge in hardware and overclocking, I'm just not so good with code, html is best i can do lol. Back in the day (almost 20 years), I dabbled a bit in unbricking (bricking) and flashing old phones, the process is fairly similar, it's just a few more programs but getting the right programs and the 'right firmware' is key here.
That's a good idea to get another sd card to save backups on and root essentials sounds like a worthy program to download. As with partition sizes and what data is stored where, is still a learning process for me atm, theres so much clutter aka bloatware, i'm not sure which is safe to uninstall, I will do a thread search to see.
I may start a new thread for this as this topic is solved now but I am also looking to get a rom or app so I can start to fine tweak the power and cpu/gpu usage but so far nothing I have noticed for the tb3 ***
If any mods come across this thread can turn it to solved, pls thanks I can't edit the header.
ComatosedUser said:
Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
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Just factory reset because u never wipe Calvin cache remember that