Reposting this in General S6E instead of TmobileS6E, for more exposure.
Here's the predicament. I got my S6E yesterday set it up, used for the rest of the day with no qualms.
When I went to put it on the charger it was at 7%, i thought to myself, I'll use an Apple 5W charger for a slower charge throughout the night.
I figured the slower, low powered charge will be better for the battery.
As it was charging it stopped in the middle of the night at 20%. From there, the phone constantly went from Charging, not charing, charging, not charging; repeatedly until I woke up to discover it at 7:20AM. I plugged in the phone at 2:30AM. It must have been in this charging on/off loop since 2:45AM or so. The phone was pretty toasty. The screen was on and the phone kept making that noise when you connect/disconnect from the charger.
So my question. will 4ish hours of everything i just mentioned fry the battery?
I don't think so but only time will tell.
No, but why did you leave it if it was going on/off.
Use a different 5W charger.
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I've noticed that when using TeleNav / ATT Navigator, my battery doesn't charge.
I do a soft reset and stop using GPS, the battery begins to charge.
This has happened with several Roms, so this leads me to believe that it's an equipment issue. I don't know if I'm alone with this issue.
Something like this is easy to overlook. The only reason I noticed is because I had to use GPS a lot more than usual and my battery went out while it was supposed to be charging.
If you're using any type of GPS, take a look. If you're good or not, just state what you use.
Thanks.
Mine will charge when I am using Garmin or GoogleMaps.... I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in. Keep an eye on the temperature of your phone!
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JFlitt
JFlitt said:
I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in.
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I've got my phone mounted on a spare belt clip i attached to my dashboard and ive noticed the same thing. there comes a time after it's been charging for a while when the light stops "breathing" but the battery is not fully charged. As far as GPS, i figured it wasted battery faster than it could charge, since i also have bt and the display stays on. I've been meaning to try it with an A/C charger in the car instead of the 12VDC. I'll let you know if theres any difference.
Thanks ...
*JFlitt*
I noticed the HEAT, my TILT did the same thing but it charged. The only issue I had with the TILT is when the battery is under 30%, I would have pull out the battery before it decided to charge.
*gmgonzal*
I'm using a mount also (15'' Gooseneck non-winshield). It starts out charging and then stops. I'll try with an AC adapter also just to see what happens.
There maybe something to this GPS & Charging......
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I have the Ac charger in my car and it works wonders. If I run more than three things at once then it will stop charging. All it take is a soft reset. Then all is well. As most said keep an eye on the temp. BTW I am using Energy's 2.0 040509 build with TomTom 7.915(9196)
Thanks Max, I figured the AC Charger would be better, it always charged very quickly at home.
Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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epriel said:
No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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That's freaking hilarious. I do the same thing. I notices my Fuze would stop charging when plugged into my car charger if it got too hot, so I simply positioned it where my AC would hit it. Now I don't have that problem anymore.
I tried the AC charger in the car....same thing.
Tried Google Maps also. Basically when I use GPS, charging stops when the device got warm. My device didn't take long to get warm....about 2 minutes.
There's gotta be away around this other than placing it on the air vents. The TILT performed much better with GPS.
my results
finally got a good long run with gps on I-95 and this is what I found:
1. According to tBattery, the 110V charger and the 12VDC charger were the same as far as charge being + 100 with the gps on, so the battery would still be charged if gps is running with the screen almost full brightness, BT on and a data connection.
2. Also according to tBattery, the temperature got to above 46 degrees when I noticed the phone was no longer charging, whereas at home it rarely gets over 33 degrees. The current showed more than 300 negative under these conditions.
SO technically, once the phone stops charging due to temperature, the GPS with screen full on and all the rest tend to drain the battery. Even if the phone is plugged in to the charger. If only it would stop charging the battery but at least take power for the device from the charger, that would have been good.
So I'm going to reposition the device on my dash to where the AC vents can hit it as others have done!
I have two different chargers in my car. The one that will charge my touch pro while running GPS navigation is 5V/1A. The one, that will not charge while navigating has 5V/500mA (which is max. USB-power according to the specs).
Since TP's GPS consumes approximately 500mA (I've read that somewhere on the internet), there will not be enough power to charge. Keep an eye on this.
I went on a 1Hr trip....
AC Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes...stop charging, reset needed
Cig Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes also...stop charging, reset needed
Aimed the AC on the device...Device charged the whole trip.
Bottom line....Keep it cool!
Lithium Ion batteries in devices all do this as far as I know. I remember back when I used my Dell Axim x51v for navigation is when I found this out for the first time. It would sit in direct sunlight on my dash and quit charging within about 5 minutes of use. One time during the winter I noticed when I didn't turn my heater on that it charged for much longer. Then the light bulb went off in my brain.
Same thing went for my Q9H, Tilt, and now Fuze. A lil air from the vent helps a lot, and keeping it out of the sunlight is an even better option.
New to VM & Android. Picked up two Optimus V phones a couple of weeks ago. While on the wall charger, both exhibit different behaviors once they've reached full charge.
On one Optimus, once the phone is 100% charged, it says "Full Charge" (or "Fully") on the lock screen. As it stays on the wall charger, the status remains full charge - there is no discharge.
However, on the other Optimus, once it reaches 100% charge, there is no mention of any charging status on the lock screen. And when I check the status in the settings, the phone shows that it is discharging, even though it remains on the wall charger.
The discharging status bears itself out as it remains on the charger, I'll eventually see the percentage of battery life drop.
Did I inadvertently switch a setting? The phone discharging itself once it reaches full charge even when on the wall charger is a problem. This is especially evident when I leave the phone on the charger overnight. In the morning, instead of starting the day fully charged, I'll see it at about 80% charged.
Thanks for any help.
There are not any settings in the Android operating system that affect charging directly. This is more a function of the kernel/hardware specific. This is why some phones can charge while off and others must be turned on. Try trading chargers/batteries between the two phones and see if the problem follows the hardware. Be sure and do this one part at a time, i.e. first trade batteries. Then if that isn't it trade chargers. You could have a bad battery and/ or charger. Also, are you rooted? Running custom Rom? These factors can also affect your situation.
Thanks for your advice. I followed what you instructed. First, switched the chargers to no avail. I changed the batteries and still no change.
It's odd to see two different behaviors exhibited by the same model phone. Both phone are unrooted running stock rom. As I indicated, one phone (which I consider the normal one) does not discharge as long as it's plugged in. The second phone starts discharging once full, even though it's plugged in.
The problem is when I leave it plugged in overnight - if I don't catch it at the moment it reaches complete charge, it'll discharge. Since I'm asleep when the phone reaches a full charge sometime in the night, by the time I wake up, I'll leave the home with a phone that is 60-80% charged.
I'll chalk this up to something faulty with the board and just turn it back in to Target.
(Be nice!)
My Streak is only 3 days old and I am thrilled with it but .....
Last night I shut it off and put it on the wall charger as usual at bedtime. It had about 80% charge left and had been working fine all day.
When I got up this morning and tried to turn the phone on, it said "0% Charge" and shut itself off. I had it on my cigarette lighter/usb charger in the car on the way to work (1 hour) and it still said 0% charge. I have had it on charge from the usb on my desktop computer in the office for 1-1/2 hours now and it says 20% charge.
When the phone is shut off, what the heck could discharge the battery completely in 6 hours????? Could the charger be bad and drawing current from the battery? (Shouldn't happen - poor design if it did!)
If it is REALLY sensitive to input voltage, maybe the USB charger in my car isn't high enough to charge the Dell? (I have seen some usb devices that actually want 5.1 to 5.2 volts to charge.)
Anyway, it is slowly coming up but I need to figure out what killed it over night. Has anybody else had this happen????
Dianne
(40 years an electronic tech and just joined The Cell Phone Age LOL!)
Did you fully shut-down your streak, or just turn-off the screen? There is circuitry that stops the battery from charging once a full charge is reached, as over charging will ruin the battery. So the phone should be on while charging. Another thought... Will it even charge if it's not on?
P.S. the thread title does leave some room for jokes
Yes, the phone will charge while it is powered off.
Your car charger may not have the power needed. I have seen a few posts about the car chargers.
Something does not seem right. While on the wall charger it should have been at 100 percent.
Also, my phone will charge fully in 2 hours on the wall charger, not sure of the time on USB.
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[email protected] dc can charge a hungry streak to full power in 2 hour.
It'll take about 3 H if you are using [email protected]
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Getting stranger!
After two incidents where the phone SHOULD have charged over night but was dead or nearly dead in the morning, I plan to switch to a USB charger that I KNOW is good but .....
When I tried to power up the Streak this morning (after being shut off last night and left on the charger over night) it was TOTALLY dead - didn't even light up again when I plugged it back into the charger! - so I stuffed it in my pocket until I got to work.
I popped the battery out and measured it - no-load voltage showed 4.0 Volts. When I put the battery back in, the Streak booted fine and showed 100% charge! (It was not battery contacts - I cleaned them a few days ago after the no-charge incident).
It appears that there may be something in battery-backed memory that got out of whack and removing/replacing the battery cleared the error state allowing the Streak to boot. This could tie in with the apparent charging problem?
Any ideas?
Guys I bought one Samsung Extended battery kit (2000mHa - genuine) last week and it worked a charm, noticed a considerable increase in battery life when compared to the stock battery 1650mha.
However on the weekend my Galaxy ran flat and now charging the phone, the phone starts charging, boots up, Samsung flash screen appears, then loads the main screen, stays there for 5 - 10 seconds, then phone powers down and turns off
I have tried several chargers, Blackberry (700ma) and the original Galaxy charger (USA charger - I live in Australia). I have read a few reviews that suggests I may need a higher output charger, maybe a 800ma or 1000ma charger? Would this be correct?
If the phone is still got charger, say 30% battery remaining, and I charge it using a Blackberry or Samsung charger, the phone charges fine, if its completely flat, it won't charge at all.
The phone has not been rooted and I am also running the 2000mHa extended battery mentioned in this post.
Any ideas to why the phone boots up, stays on for 5 seconds and turns off?
Info on charging rates for batteries:
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Li-Po (cell phone, RC car) batteries are pretty unstable when compared to NiMh/NiCd (AAs, reg Automobile) batteries.
When Li-Po's first started coming into the Remote Control Car Hobby, the big thing I was told to watch out for, and follow to a T was the charging and discharging rates, because if you neglected them, that's when the cells would swell and possibly burst into flames.
Rule of thumb is never charge at more than a 1C rate or exceed the batteries voltage, meaning if it's a 2000mAh battery, don't charge at more than 2.0A, if it's a 1750mAh battery, no more than 1.75A, and if it is a 1355mAh battery, no more than 1.355A and so on and so on.
For our stock, single cell(3.7V) Li-Po 1850mAh battery, the perfect, ideal charge rate would be no higher than 1.85A at 3.7V.
It blows me away that the stock charger is 5.0V, but Samsung obviously approved it so...Whatever.
I can almost guarantee you that our phones would never discharge at more than the batteries max rating.
To sum this up - don't charge it at more than 1.85A and 5.0 Volts and you should be fine. If you can use a charger with les voltage than 5.0V, I would use that one...
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One its a question in the wrong forum .
When flat does it not charge with phone powered off as normal charging practice for a dead phone .
jje
I have noticed this.
My theory is the phone does not charge while booting. So what little charge you had put in, would only be enough to boot, then by the time it can fully boot to charge again, it doesn't have enough power to stay up so it boots off.
If you left the charger on with the phone off for 10 min, should have enough to power up and stay powered. Try that.
My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Dr.Strangelove. said:
My phone dropped to 7% battery. I let it charge for an hour with airplane mode on and it was at 4% battery. The orange light was on the whole time meaning it was charging. I then turned it off, took the battery out and it went to 13% battery. Soon it went back to 4%. I let it charge again for 2 hours this time and it hadn't moved at all and was still at 4%. I then swapped the stock battery for one from China. It started with 60% battery and after a half hour of charging it went to 54%. Why does my battery drain while it charges? I don't even use it when it's charging so I have no idea why it's draining. I'm running stock ics but it's rooted with 4ext. Any ideas?
Thanks.
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Charge with AC not through an USB plugged to your computer. Your phone is using more battery than the USB port can provide. If you plug it in through the normal AC charger, it should be fine, as it gives out 1.0A, while USB ports typically give out anywhere between 200 to 500mA (at its absolute maximum).
I am using the ac. That message even appears when I use the ac.
Have you tried turning it of and charging?
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I have tried that and it only turns on to what the battery was at before. As I typed this I went from 54% to 21% in about 10 minutes. This is really starting to piss me off. My phone cannot hold a charge. My motorola from 8 years ago could at least hold a charge. This is ridiculous. Thanks so far for the help.
Are you using the factory Amaze Cord to charge your phone?
My factory amaze cord stopped charging via ac. I had it plugged into the wall and it would say usb charging so I'm using a different kind of cord. I've never had a problem using my sisters blackberry cord plugged into the usb converter to ac.
Maybe....just maybe...your devices charging port is defected...
I have some charger from China that goes from the wall straight to my phone without using that charging port and it doesn't charge it either.
China should only be used for one thing...Chinese People
I tried another one of my batteries that had a 60% charge. Within 10 minutes the battery was dead. I have it charging and the orange led is flashing. I waited 20 minutes and tried turning it on. After several presses of the power button it finally turns on. As soon as it gets to the home screen the low battery sound beeps and it shuts down. Seriously what am I supposed to do? This is getting ridiculous.
Thanks.
Have you looked into doing a warranty exchange...
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I have not. This has only happened 3 times or so since I got it a week or so after launch. I didn't suspect it to be a hardware problem. I think the person who suggested the bad power port was correct because my Chinese charger charged it full perfectly and it's been good. It just has to be held at a certain angle to charge. I'm going to go to Telus and try and get a new power port and see, maybe I could get an exchange. I have it rooted though, so would I have to unroot it get the exchange?
Thanks.
Step one, dim the phones lighting.
Then check to see if there's an app keeping the phone awake causing it to drain battery while charging,
If its not an app keeping it awake then you my friend are one of the unlucky owners of this picky phone...
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