Is it safe to unlock on pre-rooted firmware? - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I decided to unlock my D6503 today. I backuped my TA partition and im ready to unlock. But if i unlock my phone in Pre-rooted firmware is there any chance of getting bootlocked or bricked?

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Sony Xperia Ulta c6806

I read in the Developers forums that you can get Cwm for Locked Bootloaders. Ive been trying to get it for a week and can this be done? I bought the Ultra at Bell and it says its model number c6806 and its locked.
dvella21 said:
I read in the Developers forums that you can get Cwm for Locked Bootloaders. Ive been trying to get it for a week and can this be done? I bought the Ultra at Bell and it says its model number c6806 and its locked.
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Yes. here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
However just because you have CWM, doesn't mean you can flash ROM's.
All you can do is flash Root, and other mods.
hamdogg said:
Yes. here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
However just because you have CWM, doesn't mean you can flash ROM's.
All you can do is flash Root, and other mods.
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sorry for the quick question, but would that work on the C6802 on .257, with locked bootloader? i've been wondering if i could get root without unlocking the bootloader(to preserve warranty).
yogi2010 said:
sorry for the quick question, but would that work on the C6802 on .257, with locked bootloader? i've been wondering if i could get root without unlocking the bootloader(to preserve warranty).
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yes you can root with a locked bootloader.
to unlock your bootloader you need to have root access.
You can always backup your TA partition, and then unlock bootloader, and then restore the TA partition and restore bootlock as well.
many possibilitites
hamdogg said:
yes you can root with a locked bootloader.
to unlock your bootloader you need to have root access.
You can always backup your TA partition, and then unlock bootloader, and then restore the TA partition and restore bootlock as well.
many possibilitites
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hey thank you sir for the response. I got my phone with .257 version already on it tho, and from what I'm reading, I can't find a way to root on .257 without unlocking the boot loader. is this correct?
as I see it, the only option I have on .257 is to unlock the bootloader with the Sony method, but no way to root first. am I mistaken? thanks!
lmemma16 said:
hey thank you sir for the response. I got my phone with .257 version already on it tho, and from what I'm reading, I can't find a way to root on .257 without unlocking the boot loader. is this correct?
as I see it, the only option I have on .257 is to unlock the bootloader with the Sony method, but no way to root first. am I mistaken? thanks!
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What you could do is use flash tool to go back to another firmware, then root, and then update to the newest version. But not flashing the kernel. then you can flash the modified kernel with CWM, and then flash the new kernel afterwards.
I think there is a tutorial on here that tells you how to do it.
hamdogg said:
What you could do is use flash tool to go back to another firmware, then root, and then update to the newest version. But not flashing the kernel. then you can flash the modified kernel with CWM, and then flash the new kernel afterwards.
I think there is a tutorial on here that tells you how to do it.
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ah yes, OK, that's what I was wondering, whether it is possible to downgrade the firmware with a locked boot loader, using Flashtool. perhaps I will try.. thanks
I just remember on some other devices I've had, a locked boot loader wouldn't allow a firmware downgrade.

[Q] [SOLVED] Bootloader Unlock needs Root and Root needs Bootloader Unlock

Hello dear XDA Community,
- Xperia Z Ultra
- 4.4.2
- 14.3.A.0.681
- C6833
I have a big problem with understanding all of this tutorials. I read everything about rooting and unlocking the Bootloader.
I understood that I need to backup my TA Partition for Unlocking my Bootloader so I can continue to use Sony technology.
Requirements ? Root. Okay that was my first problem. So i looked up how to root my phone and what do i need ? A phone with a unlocked bootloader. great! Sure you can say "look at this topic and carefully read" but I really did that and I am really helpless. Thanks for any help!
What did I read ?
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598&nocache=1 (requires root)
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904 (requires unlocked bootloader)
- watched severel youtube videos and encountered the same problem
Greets
tr0teK
When your bootloader is unlocked, you can never use X-Reality and any other item which requires the DRM in the Trim Area partition,
Restoring the TA partition without relocking the bootloader will not result in the return of X-Reality and such even if you are using a Sony ROM. This situation appears to have changed since the release of 4.4.
Backing up the TA partition is only good for relocking the bootloader on a Stock ROM (any custom AOSP, CM, AOSPA etc will fail to boot on a locked bootloader), for personal choice or returning the phone under warranty.
You can unlock the bootloader when not rooted, in fact you don't do it with the phone running normally anyway so root or not rooted, it does not matter in that sense.
You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root, if you are willing to re-set up your phone again. What you need to do is downgrade to 4.2, which is rootable, root, install recovery and flash the 681 pre-rooted zip, and use flashtool to flash the associated ftf file to get rooted on 681.
Follow the instructions in Lord Manhattan's thread that you linked to,in order to downgrade and install a recovery, then visit the following link to get the zip & ftf to re-up to 4.4 (681). You most likely will lose cellular connectivity whilst you are downgraded (there is a way around this, but as you are only going down to 4.2 to get a recovery, maintaining your IMEI for that short period of time is just a waste of effort), but it will return when you are back on 681 (4.4).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848
- Downgrade to 532
- Root it using Bin4ry's tool
- Backup the TA partition
- Unlock bootloader
- Either update to 681 again and take it from there or flash a kernel with recovery/TWRP and flash a pre-rooted 681. It's easy to root 681, so whatever floats your boat.
Don't mean to hijack this topic but I don't want to open another thread,
if I back up the TA partition, unlock bootloader, root the phone, then relock bootloader, then restore TA partition to bring back the xreality,
I am not going to install custom recovery and Roms.
Thanks for the Informations. I will give it a try the next days and report you if it worked.
coolmingli said:
Don't mean to hijack this topic but I don't want to open another thread,
if I back up the TA partition, unlock bootloader, root the phone, then relock bootloader, then restore TA partition to bring back the xreality,
I am not going to install custom recovery and Roms.
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Technically it'll work, but i have never done it before. Everything should go smoothly until you're going to re-lock the bootloader. You can't re-lock it on a custom kernel, and you'll be on a custom kernel once you flash Jackie's kernel with recovery, so you'll have to flash a complete stock kernel, then restore the TA partition with the TA Backup Tool, which will also automatically re-lock the bootloader. You should in theory end up with a complete stock ROM with root. That's on paper.
Worst case scenario? If you re-lock the bootloader while you're on a custom kernel, it'll explode it won't power on at all, and all you'll get is a blinking red LED and death. To fix this, just unlock the bootloader in Flashtool again and you're back to start again. It's not dangerous, but it's nerve wrecking to see it there, just blinking without any sign of life. I almost crapped my pants the first time i experienced it, and had no clue what was happening or what to do.
LordManhattan said:
Technically it'll work, but i have never done it before. Everything should go smoothly until you're going to re-lock the bootloader. You can't re-lock it on a custom kernel, and you'll be on a custom kernel once you flash Jackie's kernel with recovery, so you'll have to flash a complete stock kernel, then restore the TA partition with the TA Backup Tool, which will also automatically re-lock the bootloader. You should in theory end up with a complete stock ROM with root. That's on paper.
Worst case scenario? If you re-lock the bootloader while you're on a custom kernel, it'll explode it won't power on at all, and all you'll get is a blinking red LED and death. To fix this, just unlock the bootloader in Flashtool again and you're back to start again. It's not dangerous, but it's nerve wrecking to see it there, just blinking without any sign of life. I almost crapped my pants the first time i experienced it, and had no clue what was happening or what to do.
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Thanks for the reply, I think I will ditch rooting from this phone, too much troubles, I don't understand why Sony put the DRM key in a trim partition, perhaps they don't want us to root the phone after all.
I did it guys. It worked!
My steps:
- Downgraded to 4.2.2 with Flashtool (.532)
- Rooted with Bin4ry's tool
- Installed CWM and TWRP Dual Recovery for Xperia Z locked Bootloader by krabappe12548
- Flashed to 4.4.2[rooted] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848)
Now I have the newest version with Root Access. Everything works great
Greets
tr0teK
tr0teK said:
I did it guys. It worked!
My steps:
- Downgraded to 4.2.2 with Flashtool (.532)
- Rooted with Bin4ry's tool
- Installed CWM and TWRP Dual Recovery for Xperia Z locked Bootloader by krabappe12548
- Flashed to 4.4.2[rooted] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848)
Now I have the newest version with Root Access. Everything works great
Greets
tr0teK
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is this witout unlock the bootloader?
MjsNL said:
is this witout unlock the bootloader?
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Yep, that will work well on a locked BL
If you are only downgrading to flash the current rooted firmware, you don't even need to root 532, as [nut]'s dual recovery can be installed by the same method that bin4ry's root is delivered, just install the recovery, flash the zip, flash the ftf and away you go

Question about root and unlock bootloader

I have a new xperia z ultra c6806
Read a lot but still confused. ( Not everybody is made equal )
I want to root and back up TA
1 - My understanding is for backing up TA, i need to be rooted. But for rooting I need to be unlocked. But unlocking will erase the TA information. Am I wrong.
2- If I unlock boatloader can I flash back to pure stock for either warranty or returning the device.
Thanks
C6806 eh?
- Open the dialer and dial *#*#7378423#*#*
- Go to Service Info -> Configuration and check what is says under "Rooting status". Does it say Yes or No?
If it says yes, go ahead and downgrade to 532 and root it using Bin4ry's root tool, backup your TA partition and then unlock the bootloader, update to 757 again and flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. You can find links and what not here.
LordManhattan said:
C6806 eh?
- Open the dialer and dial *#*#7378423#*#*
- Go to Service Info -> Configuration and check what is says under "Rooting status". Does it say Yes or No?
If it says yes, go ahead and downgrade to 532 and root it using Bin4ry's root tool, backup your TA partition and then unlock the bootloader, update to 757 again and flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. You can find links and what not here.
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Thanks for the reply
It says " Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
So I guess, I will follow what you are saying
One thing; don't panic when you're noticing that you're not getting any signal at all (cell, WiFi etc.). That's the way it is when you're downgrading the baseband past .290, but you're only going to be on 532 for a short period of time, so it's no big deal. You'll get your signal back once you're back on 757.
LordManhattan said:
One thing; don't panic when you're noticing that you're not getting any signal at all (cell, WiFi etc.). That's the way it is when you're downgrading the baseband past .290, but you're only going to be on 532 for a short period of time, so it's no big deal. You'll get your signal back once you're back on 757.
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Got 532 installed and unlocked but now cant update to 757.... Pc companion is saying I am uptodate..
There seems to be no link to download 6806 757 firmware
Edit : oofff ... finally got everything working.. That was lot of work...
aalupatti said:
Got 532 installed and unlocked but now cant update to 757.... Pc companion is saying I am uptodate..
There seems to be no link to download 6806 757 firmware
Edit : oofff ... finally got everything working.. That was lot of work...
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So you figured out that you had to use Flashtool? You backed up TA? And you managed to unlock the bootloader and root?
Don't worry, this is a one time thing. The boring stuff is the downgrading and backup of TA, so since you've backed it up, it's done. If you have to relock your bootloader and un-root for whatever reason and you want to root again, you don't have to do this again. You then have to unlock the bootloader and simply flash a kernel.
Sent from my C6833
LordManhattan said:
So you figured out that you had to use Flashtool? You backed up TA? And you managed to unlock the bootloader and root?
Don't worry, this is a one time thing. The boring stuff is the downgrading and backup of TA, so since you've backed it up, it's done. If you have to relock your bootloader and un-root for whatever reason and you want to root again, you don't have to do this again. You then have to unlock the bootloader and simply flash a kernel.
Sent from my C6833
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My issue was downgrading and some driver issues with windows 8. All went well..
However now when I reboot I get this error " System UID's are inconsistent, you need to wipe your data partition or your device will be unstable"
But fixed that using twrp
I cant believe how good quality the phone hardware is.. Was using samsung for the last few years...
I am waiting for the next generation of z ultra and going to get that too.... Wish they introduce qi charging...

[Q] Unlock Bootloader? Restore TA partition

Hi,
I had the S3 and switched to the Z2 last month. So I am new to the bootloader thing.
Is it right that I can relock the BL by restoring the TA partition for warranty for example?
Or can Sony see that I've unlocked it?
just be sure to backup your TA, and you can go back to your original undetectable state
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Hi thx for your reply
So when I restore the TA the BL becomes locked again? Or is it possible without locking it?
And do I need a new backup when I update from .402 to .314 ?
House of Cards said:
Hi thx for your reply
So when I restore the TA the BL becomes locked again? Or is it possible without locking it?
And do I need a new backup when I update from .402 to .314 ?
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Why do you need unlock at all? Exist root methods without unlocking...
When I want to install a custom kernel for example.
Restoring the Trim Area locks the bootloader.
mathieulh said:
Restoring the Trim Area locks the bootloader.
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Does locking the BL wipes data the same as unlocking it?
Yeah m8, re-locking your bootloader will wipe your phone so, as always do a backup first:good:

[Q] Unlocking the bootloader with being able to relock it

Hi,
So I'm completely new to rooting Android-phones and I just read many threads about rooting and tried to inform myself as good as I can.
But I still don't know if everything will work so I need some kind of prove...
So that's what I "planned":
1. Downgrade to firmware .55 or .69 so I can root my Z2 with locked bootloader using the Community Rootkit
2. Backup the TA with TA Backup so I can relock the bootloader again and get my warranty back if needed
3. Unlock the bootloader and flash to the latest Lollipop firmware (prerooted)
4 (optional). Getting CyanogenMod instead of the Sony firmware
Some questions:
- Can I restore the TA backup on the latest firmware (unrooted/official/flashed with Sony's Emma flasher) even though I made it on .55 or .69?
- What features wont be usable anymore after unlocking my bootloader and using a rooted Sony firmware besides X-reality and the DRM keys? (Noise cancelling is somewhat important to me)
- Will I be able to use X-reality and all the other (somewhat unnecesarry) features again with relocking the bootloader via my TA backup?
- According to step 3: Do I need to upgrade to the latest official firmware in order to unlock the bootloader via Sony's website? Or can I unlock it with the rooted .55/.69 aswell?
Thanks in advance!

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