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Hi, I think I'm having problems with my amazing Amaze..it's taking just about 5 hours to do a full charge (1%/3min).
Would like to hear some feedback from you guys.
1-How long did your first/second/third charges take (approx).
2-How long does a full (from under 10%) charge currently take?
3-At what rate is your device charging (%/min)
NOTE: I am using a wall outlet and it does say on the phone that it's charging though AC charger.
Check out this thread if you're interested in knowing my issues in more detail:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423303
Thanks!
Not sure how long it takes me. . But I know it charges a lottttttttttttt far when its off
xologist said:
Not sure how long it takes me. . But I know it charges a lottttttttttttt far when its off
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Do you have an idea of how long it takes for it to increase by 1%?
Yeah, in my case...even with the phone off, it still seems to take just as long.
Cheers
Mine varies alot. If I'm not messing with it and the screen is off its 3 to 3 1/2 hours. However if I start playing a game or just messing with xda it can easily exceed 5 hours. Been thinking about trying the charger for my transformer to see if it charges any faster just haven't yet.
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venceslau86 said:
Hi, I think I'm having problems with my amazing Amaze..it's taking just about 5 hours to do a full charge (1%/3min).
Would like to hear some feedback from you guys.
1-How long did your first/second/third charges take (approx).
2-How long does a full (from under 10%) charge currently take?
3-At what rate is your device charging (%/min)
NOTE: I am using a wall outlet and it does say on the phone that it's charging though AC charger.
Check out this thread if you're interested in knowing my issues in more detail:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423303
Thanks!
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mine used to take 8 hours to fully charge when I first bought it then after couple of weeks took only 3 4 hrs to fully charge
Felinos11 said:
mine used to take 8 hours to fully charge when I first bought it then after couple of weeks took only 3 4 hrs to fully charge
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Holy...8 hours? Really? Was that using AC charger or USB? Were you playing with it, or would you let it charge untouched?
Thanks for your reply
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Thanks for all your feed back!
Follow up here...
1. How much take time to get full charge from 0 to 100.
My deviCe takes 2h and 50 min almost 3 hours n urs?
2.for the first time for how many hours to charg3 the battery and the 2nd times how many hours we should charge the battery and after 3rd time how many hours to charge the battery thnx
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When I first got the phone, I just plugged it in and charged AC until full (plus 30 mins) while powered off.
First full charge 4-100 (powered on) Approx 3 hr 22 mins.
Just on my 2nd charge now and waiting......
Just charge to full and done, best to not let the battery get to zero and force shutdown to prolong long-term battery life and performance.
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UpInTheAir said:
When I first got the phone, I just plugged it in and charged AC until full (plus 30 mins) while powered off.
First full charge 4-100 (powered on) Approx 3 hr 22 mins.
Just on my 2nd charge now and waiting......
Just charge to full and done, best to not let the battery get to zero and force shutdown to prolong long-term battery life and performance.
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Hi. I thought its the best if u leave the phones battery drain to zero and charge it to full and recycle it several times.
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Hi. I thought its the best if u leave the phones battery drain to zero and charge it to full and recycle it several times.
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This will make good reading for you and explain things better. Quite informative.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391186
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I thought its a lithium ion battery and so it doesn't matter if you charge it even its not at zero. I always understood with this kind of battery it doesn't effect battery life.
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PollPixx said:
I thought its a lithium ion battery and so it doesn't matter if you charge it even its not at zero. I always understood with this kind of battery it doesn't effect battery life.
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Bad for battery health. Read link in my above post or research Google for more info.
Basically zero is bad, the less depth of discharge, the higher number of charge cycles etc.
Charging uninterrupted (no bump charging) from near zero to 100% will help with battery calibration though.
Hope this helps
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Hello, dear XDA people!
I got my Z Ultra today.
YEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, had to do it..
Now, I come from Note 1....and I have a few questions...
one of them is about the first charge...
I tried to read as much as possible, but on the Sony website and the paper manual it says only how to regularly charge and that the green light means it is over 90 percent... AND it says that before first turning Z Ultra on, even though it comes with some charge in it already from the factory, the phone should be charged prior to first time power up...
Now, I did charge it, but it is only showing green light, and no percentage (Ultra is off, I haven't turned it on yet)...
How can I know it is charged fully?
I don't want to leave it plugged in too long, cause I read that batteries don't like that..
new charger
for new phone or smart phone ,first charge is 8 hour,ok
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Hello, dear XDA people!
I got my Z Ultra today.
YEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, had to do it..
Now, I come from Note 1....and I have a few questions...
one of them is about the first charge...
I tried to read as much as possible, but on the Sony website and the paper manual it says only how to regularly charge and that the green light means it is over 90 percent... AND it says that before first turning Z Ultra on, even though it comes with some charge in it already from the factory, the phone should be charged prior to first time power up...
Now, I did charge it, but it is only showing green light, and no percentage (Ultra is off, I haven't turned it on yet)...
How can I know it is charged fully?
I don't want to leave it plugged in too long, cause I read that batteries don't like that..
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just fill it til full and detach it after full, no need to leave it for 8 hours. as per my experience, first charge will not retain battery level for long. it will come empty fast, This is normal, so just charge it again after drained for a while (maybe 50%) and it will be normal after that .
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hansip87 said:
just fill it til full and detach it after full, no need to leave it for 8 hours. as per my experience, first charge will not retain battery level for long. it will come empty fast, This is normal, so just charge it again after drained for a while (maybe 50%) and it will be normal after that .
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+1 for that.
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Oh, great!
Thanks, folks..
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Oh, great!
Thanks, folks..
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modern Lion batteries (lithium Ion batteries) don't have a memory. They can tend to think that they have a limit if you only charge it to say 80% all the time, but a full empty and then recharge will annul that. So there is no memory chip or anything.
So charge it to what ever you want..
Also FYI, the green LED turns on when it's reached 90%.
So no need to charge it until 8 hours?
Because i just buy Z Ultra. So raelly need to know for the first charge..
TQ
Acetrigger said:
So no need to charge it until 8 hours?
Because i just buy Z Ultra. So raelly need to know for the first charge..
TQ
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...just use it right out of the box. Newly sealed devices has about 45% battery life. And it was about what my device had when I unpacked it.
I did not charge it. I just went ahead and started using it until I needed to charge it.
I cannot quite remember if I rooted the device on my first cycle or if I charged it before I started.
I discovered that if you use a note 3 charger or tablet charger you phone charges faster obviously due to more amps.
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I discovered that if you use a note 3 charger or tablet charger you phone charges faster obviously due to more amps.
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the ZU will happily charge at 1800mA, I've not seen mine charge any faster than that, I'v not been brave enough to see if true fast charge will work
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...just use it right out of the box. Newly sealed devices has about 45% battery life. And it was about what my device had when I unpacked it.
I did not charge it. I just went ahead and started using it until I needed to charge it.
I cannot quite remember if I rooted the device on my first cycle or if I charged it before I started.
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TQ. But what i mean is for the first time charge is it need to be 8 hours?
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TQ. But what i mean is for the first time charge is it need to be 8 hours?
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.........no you don't have to sit there with a timer and wait 8 hours on your first charge. The text refers as a "recommendation".
Your phone will not explode nor will it bend or void your warranty if you only charging it for 7 hours and 53 min or 3 hours the first time.
Thanks for everybody's input. I think I've got our down now Lol. But I'd like to keep the discussion open for anyone that would like to be better informed.
New topic: Tips & Tricks for getting the most out of your battery.
Thanks guys!
Don't run it dead regularly (that was for ni batteries), don't charge it all the time (ie topping off everytime you're near a charger). If going to store powered down for long periods do so at like %60 capacity.
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twiggums said:
Don't run it dead regularly (that was for ni batteries), don't charge it all the time (ie topping off everytime you're near a charger). If going to store powered down for long periods do so at like %60 capacity.
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Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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Pure+ said:
It's been a while since I have actually cared about a phone enough to really want to take care of every part of it, including the battery, and I was wondering what the best way to keep it fresh is?
Use until it dies and fully charge every time.
Use until low power warning and recharge.
idk what other methods there are....
Anyway, appreciate any and all tips guys:good:
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Best way is to not worry about it. Only thing you want to avoid is letting it die in standby over and over.
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Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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Sorry I was so brief was at work on lunch.
In the ideal world you'd probably charge around %20-%30. Lithium batteries do not like being over drained or overcharged. Overcharging isn't really an issue since our phone handles charging. Over draining repeatedly will drain max capacity, same with overcharging. The %60 i refer to is a rough number if you were going to be storing the phone powered off for weeks or months, lithium batteries should not be stored at max voltage or drained.
You don't want to be constantly "topping" your battery off either. The life of a lithium battery is generally going to be measured in charge cycles. So charging it every time you're sitting at a charger will really just wear it out faster.
I generally just charge my phone every night when i go to bed. With as long as these phones last on a charge; I've yet to burn through my entire battery in less than a day more than a time or two. Don't put too much thought into it or worry too terribly much. Running it down once or twice isn't going to do much that you'd immediately notice, but doing it every time is certainly not a good idea!
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Sorry I was so brief was at work on lunch.
In the ideal world you'd probably charge around %20-%30. Lithium batteries do not like being over drained or overcharged. Overcharging isn't really an issue since our phone handles charging. Over draining repeatedly will drain max capacity, same with overcharging. The %60 i refer to is a rough number if you were going to be storing the phone powered off for weeks or months, lithium batteries should not be stored at max voltage or drained.
You don't want to be constantly "topping" your battery off either. The life of a lithium battery is generally going to be measured in charge cycles. So charging it every time you're sitting at a charger will really just wear it out faster.
I generally just charge my phone every night when i go to bed. With as long as these phones last on a charge; I've yet to burn through my entire battery in less than a day more than a time or two. Don't put too much thought into it or worry too terribly much. Running it down once or twice isn't going to do much that you'd immediately notice, but doing it every time is certainly not a good idea!
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Okay. Thanks for all the info. It really helps to know that stuff. I'm not to worried about burning through charge cycles. I'm getting 2-3 days of a charge. 4 if I drain it. Battery on this is the best I have even seen. Truly incredible. I don't know how they managed it. But I am absolutely loving it.
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The only thing you need to worry about is not letting your battery reach below 14%. Unless your out or not near a charger it's understandable.
Charge your phone once it hits 14%. Let it fully charge don't interrupt it (unless you have too)
Sometimes don't charge your device to 100% I sometimes charge mines to 90%.
Let the battery die once or twice a month.
Just don't worry about the battery. By time you hit anywhere near 500 charge cycles you'll be on the m9 or a new device.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
The only thing you need to worry about is not letting your battery reach below 14%. Unless your out or not near a charger it's understandable.
Charge your phone once it hits 14%. Let it fully charge don't interrupt it (unless you have too)
Sometimes don't charge your device to 100% I sometimes charge mines to 90%.
Let the battery die once or twice a month.
Just don't worry about the battery. By time you hit anywhere near 500 charge cycles you'll be on the m9 or a new device.
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Why would you only charge to %90? And why would you let it die once a month?
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twiggums said:
Why would you only charge to %90? And why would you let it die once a month?
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Because you wanna train your battery and get the most out of it. A lot of people say those are old rules because these batteries don't have memory cells. But you'll find yourself not needing to replace the battery as fast as you would by just letting it die all the time
I have replaced a cell phone battery yet and I've been using that method since flip phones days
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Because you wanna train your battery and get the most out of it. A lot of people say those are old rules because these batteries don't have memory cells. But you'll find yourself not needing to replace the battery as fast as you would by just letting it die all the time
I have replaced a cell phone battery yet and I've been using that method since flip phones days
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Hhrrmmm. i think you're thinking of nickel based batteries (nicd, nimh, etc). Generally lithium cells really dont like low voltages or have memory.
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Hhrrmmm. i think you're thinking of nickel based batteries (nicd, nimh, etc). Generally lithium cells really dont like low voltages or have memory.
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I think he's correct on the letting it die once every month or so. I did a lot of research on this a while back and ideally you don't let your phone drop below 50% regularly and don't let it sit on the charger all night since its going to be at 100% for many hours before you wake up a li ion batteries prefer to not be at 100%. The discharging it fully will calibrate it and make sure all the cells are being used since if certain cells don't get discharged every so often they start to lose ability to hold a charge. Keep in mind I looked all this up 2 years ago and most of the issues only affect people who keep phones for 2+ years unless the do 100%-0% every day then their battery won't last long.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
These phones all have battery protection circuitry built into them.
As the battery approaches 100% charge the charge current reduces to almost nothing to prevent overcharging.
Having said this I would not leave the phone on charge for weeks on end but there is really no reason to worry about taking it off charge the moment it shows 100%.
Likewise for discharge. When the phone indicates that the battery is getting flat it will make sure that even if you run the phone till it dies, the battery will not have been allowed to overdischarge. When your phone switches off software is telling the phone to power down to protect the battery.
Also, to touch upon Lithium battery charge cycles, one charge cycle is the 100% charging of the battery, now keep in mind this can be from 0-100% OR it can also be the sum of multiple chargings up to 100% capacity of the battery
I.e.- charging from 75% to 100% once is not considered a charge cycle to the battery, but do it three more times from 75% (25%x4=100%"rated" capacity) and it considers THAT one charge cycle. So if you charge from 50% regularly, two times charging from 50 to 100% is ONE charging cycle.
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Pure+ said:
Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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Allen` said:
Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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Huh? You saying to only charge it in one hour increments?
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i think the battry in the HTC M8 is really good. it will last for a whole day with no issue. I have beeing testing it and actually I am happy with the resulet
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Allen` said:
Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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As usual, speaking with reps can be cause for alarm. In this case, it's obvious he/she was blowing smoke. Read the links posted in the thread.
Updated OP. This is now more of a help thread for those who need it. Thanks for all the info and tips.
Let's keep it going guys!
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How long do I charge my Z2 when I get it for the very first time on Tuesday? Do I keep it on there for 24 hours? And how long should I discharge it for? Till it's empty? Want to make the most out of my battery in the long run.
The manual states 30 minutes charging before first use. The battery is Li-Ion so no need to care about how you use it.
From my experience only leaving Li-Ion battery for long time discharged might get you in trouble.
i would go for 6-8 hours for first charge
To be honest there are many different opinions on this, and i dont believe in single 1 of them lol. I had many smartphones till now, and never did these fullcharge or discharge thingies, and never had worse battery life than it should be. But thats just my opinion. Oh and i read somewhere that its actually bad to completely discharge, as it may shorten its lifetime over time.
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feis said:
To be honest there are many different opinions on this, and i dont believe in single 1 of them lol. I had many smartphones till now, and never did these fullcharge or discharge thingies, and never had worse battery life than it should be. But thats just my opinion. Oh and i read somewhere that its actually bad to completely discharge, as it may shorten its lifetime over time.
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I agree with that statement.
So do you think I should only charge it for one hour and that's it? When should I put it on charger again? 10%?
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So do you think I should only charge it for one hour and that's it? When should I put it on charger again? 10%?
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It doesn't matter. Battery is pretty modern and not like the old phones. Charge how you like. Even when you fullcharge you can leave the charger in because it stops charging at 100%.
I charged mine for about 2 hours before powering it on to make sure it was 100% full, lithium ion batteries are not designed to be fully discharged then recharged, doing that just makes the battery life worse.
Good to know because it was tedious. Thanks guys