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Hi guys,
I wanted to ask a thing...
Sometimes when im working on the phone and i get an incoming call...i dont get that slider to answer but just 2 buttons , to reject and to accept a call.
I woould like those buttons to be always there instead of the slider which sometims is buggy when answering...
Any ideas on how to achieve that?
Cheers
I don't think that there is a workaround for this. If you are working on your phone you won't need to unlock it. Problem is, if only those two buttons came up with your phone in your pocket, you might drop the call or answer to someone you might not want to talk to by mistake
yeah true....but i dont keep my phone "naked" when its in my pocket...
and find it more usable to click a button then to slide ti answer which sometimes...alot of times .. is kinda buggy..
Well, hopefully it might be easier to answer by unlocking after the (promised) update!
thank you very much for the replys
Hello guys!
My Defy didn't arrive yet, so i want you to help me test this thing.
I like hardware answer-call buttons but Defy doesn't have them so i decided to write a mod which will answer ringing call if you long-press any volume buttons.
Short-press should still work fine and silence ringer. Is that good idea?
I've modified android.policy.jar from 2.34 deodexed. Attached file will work only on 2.34 deodexed! Please don't ask how to install it; i dunno. If someone find this working, i'll be glad if you prepare update zip.
Note that it's my first time ever hacking Android and i'm totally not sure if it works.
So, does it work? Maybe idea is stupid or i posted in wrong section?
I think it's a good idea, because when wearing gloves, we can't answer!
would be nice to do the same for the camera. We could be able to take underwater pictures this way!
Okay my Defy came and so i tested and this mod DOES work nicely.
Although phone has quite small volume rocker and could be hard to press. But still better in cold winter
I can do 2.2 mod as well, not sure for which firmware. Also, where can i get compiled dexopt-wrapper to make odexed version
buvard said:
I think it's a good idea, because when wearing gloves, we can't answer!
would be nice to do the same for the camera. We could be able to take underwater pictures this way!
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yeah i thaught it would be good to use the volume rocker to take pictures could the same method work?
Simplestas said:
So, does it work? Maybe idea is stupid or i posted in wrong section?
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i like the idea. it would be better if it can be used to hang up a call as well...
The volume button is too small so I would rather use the screen.
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I think this is great idea. I'm still wating my dev, but i've already have thinged about same thing - attach line up/down on long lower volume button and camera on valume up [not long].
Hi, I made a video of the problem here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXcBcpSD1w
It's minor, but I'd still like it fixed.
I heard about this as well... does look annoying. What application did you use to test that?
Timmmmmm said:
Hi, I made a video of the problem here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXcBcpSD1w
It's minor, but I'd still like it fixed.
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I think "Yet Another Multitouch Tester" or something. There are loads of them in the market.
Yea I was just curious. I use multitouch visible test which shows coordinates as well and I tried to replicate this on my Nexus S... doesn't have that threshold though, it's similar to the Nexus One. Wonder why samsung would add that...
BTW could you tell me how many simultaneous touch inputs the screen can register? The original SGS and Nexus S can register 5 according to multitouch visible test. Nexus One as you know can do 2 but when you cross each axis they flip.
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I think "Yet Another Multitouch Tester" or something. There are loads of them in the market.
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I got up to 10 and then ran out of fingers...
There's no axis flipping problem.
Ok so the physical touchscreen technology is very good... it's just samsung has written in this threshold movement delay, that's a bummer lol.
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I got up to 10 and then ran out of fingers...
There's no axis flipping problem.
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I think the touchscreen is so extremely sensitive they decided to fool-proof the phone.
without this "sticking" there would be no way for an average person with shaky fingers to register a TAP not a micro-SWIPE.
kreoXDA said:
I think the touchscreen is so extremely sensitive they decided to fool-proof the phone.
without this "sticking" there would be no way for an average person with shaky fingers to register a TAP not a micro-SWIPE.
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I doubt it. It's virtually impossible to perfectly tap on other phones and it's not a problem. I'm pretty sure 'micro-swipes' are detected by the software layer as taps.
Well does it affect the phone usage otherwise?
I just checked on 3Gs (havent got the S2 yet, damn these late release dates ) and sure enough it has the exact same delay and skip when I slowly try to scroll say web pages. Its always been good enough for me though.
I would be more interested in an accuracy test to see if there are any major issues with the hardware itself. Last test I saw showed everyone but the iPhone digitizer having abysmal performance, I remember the Droid loosing the finger signal all the time.
Any links to the touchscreen performance test you mention?
As for the "deadzone" for touch input, CyanogenMod7 for the SGS has this aswell. Furthermore, it also has a "feature" where if you move your finger slower than a certain speed across the screen, homescreens/browser pages etc will just ignore the touch input. So if you want to minimally correct the framing of a webpage, if maybe the text is just cut off on the side, you need to quickly swipe a very short swipe to get any movement on the screen. Trying to slowly change framing is not possible.
Hardware is fine though, multitouch tests has no filtering like deadzones or speed thresholds.
I have this problem to, Its definitely software I think.
I wonder if its easy to mod to get rid of this deadzone/minimum threshold for scrolling. Anyone able to take a look. Its quite annoying in some things and my old android phone didnt do this.
Angry birds doesn't bypass the problem. It's quite hard to see underneath your finger but the problem is definitely there in "Angry Birds Rio".
Scrolling in some views don't show the problem so badly, presumably because they use the relative movement of each move event, rather than the absolute distance from the down event.
Yeah problem is still there in angry birds my mistake.
Its quite annoying in nova hd when you want to move the crosshair a tiny amount. You can't because of this problem
Anyone know what file in the source could be edited to maybe stop this ?
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Yeah problem is still there in angry birds my mistake.
Its quite annoying in nova hd when you want to move the crosshair a tiny amount. You can't because of this problem
Anyone know what file in the source could be edited to maybe stop this ?
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my hunch is this source is not available, and somewhere in samsung's closed framework or similar.
i know on cyanogen rom, you can go look at the source code for ADW launcher, and you can locate the touch input source code. and you can find all the algorithms like dX, dY, that are used to register swipes, motion, scrolls, etc. its all pretty complicated and impressive code actually.
i'm sure samsung has equivalent code somewhere.
So if we got rid of touchwiz and used ADW launcher would the problem still be there?
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So if we got rid of touchwiz and used ADW launcher would the problem still be there?
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Good question. I'm curious.
Still same problem with adw launcher
This looks more like a kernel thing to me in the touchscreen driver...
Are we able to edit/mod/patch the touchscreen driver in the kernel or is this only something samsung can do ?
sorrowuk said:
Are we able to edit/mod/patch the touchscreen driver in the kernel or is this only something samsung can do ?
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We have the sources. I'm checking out the frameworks first though in case it's obvious.
I love this new phone. Yes, I wish they would have built a bigger battery in there even it it would make it a little thicker and The bezels could have smaller on the sides and waaaaaaaay smaller on top and bottom. But overall, I like it, it's huge and this is what i want in a my one device. I want something that is still pocketable but as big as can possibly be (we arent there yet) and still handle my phone calls.
The software is missing a bunch of stuff. Yes, great, its not bogged down like I've been used to with Samsung, great, but come on... Why arent the software buttons customizable? Why isn't there a little button every time i hit a sound key to expand the volume menu to let me change all the different volumes (ringer/alarm/media)? I have to dig through setting to get to that... Why cant I$%#* longpress the icons in the quicksettings to bring me to the menu for that setting...
I feel like theres so much missing... a lot of things I'm used to from all the samsung phones I had. And I don't mean the gimmicky features.
A lot of these things are ideas that either google would come up with or any of the custom rom devs thought up. Samsung pays attentions and steals the good ideas for their phones... why doesn't sony??
I also with they had the knockon feature that LG has because i was used to having a button on the front and I hate having to press on the side...
I guess this doesn't matter anyway because as soon as @krabappel2548 has the main kinks worked out of the 4.4 builds, I'm jumping ship anyway. But either way, Sony really disappointed me...
FYI, I've been using these 2 apps since I got the phone, one lets you add stuff to the nav bar which is great, you cant get rid of the dedicated ones but you can put new stuff directly on top of them, And the second one is so i don't have to keep pressing the power button on the side you just wave your hand over it and it turns on (I've found that the best way to use it is to just run your hand over the sensor and that seems to work pretty well. It also always turns on by itself when I take it out of my pocket)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inorexstudio.wave2wake&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cygery.customnavbar.demo&hl=en
mottyengel said:
I love this new phone. Yes, I wish they would have built a bigger battery in there even it it would make it a little thicker and The bezels could have smaller on the sides and waaaaaaaay smaller on top and bottom. But overall, I like it, it's huge and this is what i want in a my one device. I want something that is still pocketable but as big as can possibly be (we arent there yet) and still handle my phone calls.
The software is missing a bunch of stuff. Yes, great, its not bogged down like I've been used to with Samsung, great, but come on... Why arent the software buttons customizable? Why isn't there a little button every time i hit a sound key to expand the volume menu to let me change all the different volumes (ringer/alarm/media)? I have to dig through setting to get to that... Why cant I$%#* longpress the icons in the quicksettings to bring me to the menu for that setting...
I feel like theres so much missing... a lot of things I'm used to from all the samsung phones I had. And I don't mean the gimmicky features.
A lot of these things are ideas that either google would come up with or any of the custom rom devs thought up. Samsung pays attentions and steals the good ideas for their phones... why doesn't sony??
I also with they had the knockon feature that LG has because i was used to having a button on the front and I hate having to press on the side...
I guess this doesn't matter anyway because as soon as @krabappel2548 has the main kinks worked out of the 4.4 builds, I'm jumping ship anyway. But either way, Sony really disappointed me...
FYI, I've been using these 2 apps since I got the phone, one lets you add stuff to the nav bar which is great, you cant get rid of the dedicated ones but you can put new stuff directly on top of them, And the second one is so i don't have to keep pressing the power button on the side you just wave your hand over it and it turns on (I've found that the best way to use it is to just run your hand over the sensor and that seems to work pretty well. It also always turns on by itself when I take it out of my pocket)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inorexstudio.wave2wake&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cygery.customnavbar.demo&hl=en
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The Xperia Tablet Z has the double-tap to wake feature. Funny how much I miss it from the Ultra.
Don't want to have to install a separate app either!
xposed framework fixes all your complaints
SweFox said:
xposed framework fixes all your complaints
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Not really sure how to do that... and anyway, once I install omni, most of it will come built in. I'm just disappointed in the out of the box limitations.
If you want a phone with more features buy LG G2, it's better than Samsung phones and also has highly customizable UI but heaver than Sony's one.
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mottyengel said:
Not really sure how to do that... and anyway, once I install omni, most of it will come built in. I'm just disappointed in the out of the box limitations.
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Okey.. If you planned on installing omni why are you disappointed since it wouldn't matter anyway? And like I said, installing xposed framwork lets you easily fix those complaints.
SweFox said:
Okey.. If you planned on installing omni why are you disappointed since it wouldn't matter anyway? And like I said, installing xposed framwork lets you easily fix those complaints.
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Its just disappointing is all. These have become basic features... Why would sony leave them out?
Simonna said:
If you want a phone with more features buy LG G2, it's better than Samsung phones and also has highly customizable UI but heaver than Sony's one.
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I want this monster, not some puny 5.2 phone.
SweFox said:
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Please tell me which xposed module lets to turn screen on without pressing power button?
techpal said:
Please tell me which xposed module lets to turn screen on without pressing power button?
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That can be solved with a flipcase or Gravity Screen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227516)
mottyengel said:
I love this new phone. Yes, I wish they would have built a bigger battery in there even it it would make it a little thicker and The bezels could have smaller on the sides and waaaaaaaay smaller on top and bottom. But overall, I like it, it's huge and this is what i want in a my one device. I want something that is still pocketable but as big as can possibly be (we arent there yet) and still handle my phone calls.
The software is missing a bunch of stuff. Yes, great, its not bogged down like I've been used to with Samsung, great, but come on... Why arent the software buttons customizable? Why isn't there a little button every time i hit a sound key to expand the volume menu to let me change all the different volumes (ringer/alarm/media)? I have to dig through setting to get to that... Why cant I$%#* longpress the icons in the quicksettings to bring me to the menu for that setting...
I feel like theres so much missing... a lot of things I'm used to from all the samsung phones I had. And I don't mean the gimmicky features.
A lot of these things are ideas that either google would come up with or any of the custom rom devs thought up. Samsung pays attentions and steals the good ideas for their phones... why doesn't sony??
I also with they had the knockon feature that LG has because i was used to having a button on the front and I hate having to press on the side...
I guess this doesn't matter anyway because as soon as @krabappel2548 has the main kinks worked out of the 4.4 builds, I'm jumping ship anyway. But either way, Sony really disappointed me...
FYI, I've been using these 2 apps since I got the phone, one lets you add stuff to the nav bar which is great, you cant get rid of the dedicated ones but you can put new stuff directly on top of them, And the second one is so i don't have to keep pressing the power button on the side you just wave your hand over it and it turns on (I've found that the best way to use it is to just run your hand over the sensor and that seems to work pretty well. It also always turns on by itself when I take it out of my pocket)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inorexstudio.wave2wake&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cygery.customnavbar.demo&hl=en
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So essentially you're blaming Google for not equipping Android with TouchWiz features from the first place.. right..
Sony is known for the simple and elegant to navigate UI. So if you want all the bells and whistles you could always opt for xposed modules. Better to add an app rather than carrying all the bloat in the first place.
Knock on feature should be there for TabletZ because it is a huge device so looking down the power button would take too long. the LG G2 was in a different, worse problem (button on the back) but XZU buttons is clearly felt just by handling the device even in one hand so i agree there's no reason to put such solution.
SweFox said:
That can be solved with a flipcase or Gravity Screen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227516)
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I thought if there is xposed module available. I am already using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=120244&extra=page=1&mobile=2
It should take some time to update, still talking to asus though on the bootloader for the 5.7, still awaiting that answer. However yay finally.
Darkdragontc said:
It should take some time to update, still talking to asus though on the bootloader for the 5.7, still awaiting that answer. However yay finally.
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Only real difference I've found so far is the always on backlight and the allways on screen, though if you have a case that turns screen on/off it kills that function...
Haven't made any calls so can't comment on that.
The update is around 200mb... It's not Android 7...
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Only real difference I've found so far is the always on backlight and the allways on screen, though if you have a case that turns screen on/off it kills that function...
Haven't made any calls so can't comment on that.
The update is around 200mb... It's not Android 7...
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It would have been nice if there was also an always off for the backlight. I guess they skipped my request I can't imagine someone would want the backlight keys on all the time. To each their own I guess. They said there were camera improvements, but I haven't tested that out yet.
pacattack81 said:
It would have been nice if there was also an always off for the backlight. I guess they skipped my request I can't imagine someone would want the backlight keys on all the time. To each their own I guess. They said there were camera improvements, but I haven't tested that out yet.
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The Always On back light for the keys for me is quite useful when operating the phone in the dark. It it the same as a computer keyboard with back light. I'm glad they added this feature, otherwise it's as good as not having any back light at all for the keys.
I also see a definite improvement in the audio quality. Earlier while playing tracks with silence, there was a slight hissing sound (using audiophile headphones) and I had reported this to Asus. I checked this now with a few tracks and it seems like this is fixed. I hear absolutely no hissing and the audio is crisp and clear even at high volumes. !
rynaus said:
The Always On back light for the keys for me is quite useful when operating the phone in the dark. It it the same as a computer keyboard with back light. I'm glad they added this feature, otherwise it's as good as not having any back light at all for the keys.
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That's interesting. At night is when the backlight annoys me. I'd prefer they don't ligh up. Glad they made someone happy though. I'll still wait and hope for an always off feature.
pacattack81 said:
That's interesting. At night is when the backlight annoys me. I'd prefer they don't ligh up. Glad they made someone happy though. I'll still wait and hope for an always off feature.
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Definitely put in your requests through email and at the zentalk forum. Could be coincidence, but I almost feel like the 'always on backlit' was done at a specific person's request (seen here) because it was early on and they were so vocal on the forum for this issue. Also the forum's audience isn't that big - so more of a chance to be heard.
The Simple said:
Definitely put in your requests through email and at the zentalk forum. Could be coincidence, but I almost feel like the 'always on backlit' was done at a specific person's request (seen here) because it was early on and they were so vocal on the forum for this issue. Also the forum's audience isn't that big - so more of a chance to be heard.
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Thanks for the idea. I signed in, but unfortunately it won't let me post to that board. I wonder why?