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Hi,
I bought this Sony Tablet S last weekend with the idea that I would try it and return it. I also bought a Motorola Xoom with the same intentions. I wasn't really able to try the Tablet S because everytime I picked up the device in the store the anti-theft alarm would sound. The salesperson reluctantly admitted I could take it back if I didn't like it, I usually don't this kind of thing as I prefer to wait and buy online cheaper.
Anyways it's been a week. My heart was set on getting an Xoom, I like Motorola but the screen quality... I don't want one even though I found two used for $300 with accessories.
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
The things I like about it:
- Durable! I plan on having this in my bedroom, I can fall asleep with it in the bed and I highly doubt I'd break it. Same for carrying it around the house, it doesn't need any kind of case.
- The Shape. It is decent to hold and it really does work well at a table. The angle makes viewing and typing a lot better.
- It's a Sony. I like Sony, I just hope they actually support this device unlike that piece of junk Sony Dash I foolishly bought last year.
- The remote feature. It's not near as advanced as I would like but the software is "Version 1.0". I'm hoping it progresses and becomes more advanced with "activities". I don't mind the layout at all, I think the buttons look good. The one thing I find is that it could be faster in switching between devices.
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
- I like the charge system. I don't have a dock yet, it's ordered but I like the fact it just drops in and easily lifts out. I could see all the other tablets docks requiring more effort to align and slide in/out of their respective docks.
- The Sony tweaks to the Android OS. I like them, I just hope it's not a drawback... waiting for Sony each time a new version is available.
- The Sony games. I don't game much anymore but it's a welcome addition for me.
- The HD Remote. Man, I wish I waited six more months before buying my XBR-LX900. This years models seem to have a better integration with this tablet.
- I like the fact that it's user serviceable. The battery can be changed and a 3G/4G card can be inserted.
What I don't like:
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
- It's looks. At times I like the way it looks, at other times... I think it looks / feels cheap. But mind you, it's very durable the way it is. I wouldn't hesitate to allow a child to play with it.
- The price. Way over-priced for what it is! I suppose all tablets are though, but at least Motorola has style. I like the looks and feel of the Motorola build much better.
- Weight... it is a touch heavy even though this is suppose to be one of the lighter tablets. Just imagine in five years the tablets we will have?
- The charge cord. If you don't use a dock (which should come with it!!!) that charge cord is going to break.
- And again lastly.. this isn't really a knock on Sony but I honestly feel it's too early to spend this kind of money on this types of hardware. Tablets are in their infancy, none of them are worth what we are paying for them. Honestly I think most tablets really should be priced at $199 or $299 for what they are. $499 is just.... too much money for what it is.
Anyways for me, I've decided to keep the Tablet S even though I know I will regret it in six months. I need a new alarm clock, I'd like to be able to convienantly check things from my bedroom and I would like to experiment with Android... so here I am.
I see the Tablet S as having a long life with me for it's simple durability. I don't have to baby it, it'll serve well for what it is. A portable household browser / email device. I don't think of this Tablet as something you would take out with you. For that I will mostly likely get a second or third generation Motorola.
I am also a proud owner of the Sony Tablet. This review is very well said.. can't disagree.. you should post this review in sites like Amazon.
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dberladyn said:
So on to the Tablet S... I kept going back and forth on it. My biggest gripe is that this will be worth $200 in a year and it may even be completely out of date as Tablets mature.
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This unfortunately is always the case with tech, once the Kal-El (quad core Tegras) come out you'll see price drops on the dual core ones. Doesnt mean your tablet is going to become useless though just you wont be state of the art anymore
- The screen. I like that it's 9.4" as this gives you more pixels per inch than a 10.1" display resulting in a sharper image. The viewing angles are good, but I have to admit.. I do wish Sony put an even better quality screen in. I don't think I would want to read a book on this device. By the way the 9.4" screen is easier to reach with your fingers but it's less appealing to the eyes, that extra 1/2" does make a difference in screen "real estate".
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Really? I absolutely love reading on my S tab, the display is sharp and clear.
- The screen. Another 1/2" would be more visually appealing. The colors could pop more and I wish it was better on the eyes for reading. One day I suppose, for now I'll be keeping my Sony eReader.
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I agree on this, wish the colors did pop a bit more something in between S tablet and Galaxy would have been nice. And yeah the thing I hate most is the charging connector, everytime I plug it in I feel like its going to break. Guess Ill have to buy a dock as well.
Yeah I agree, it's totally overpriced, the cost of the case is ridiculous too... but, that's Sony for ya.
I also have a wifi Xoom and think it's a piece of junk compared to the S, and most other HC tablets out there. It's laggy and the screen is so washed out and bland. The Sony S flips through screens so smoothly, gives a nice tablet experience.
Damn... my country still haven't release Sony Tablet S... ARGHH!!!.... my don't they just do global release...
Yeah Sony product is expensive but GOODD!!!
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
Maedhros said:
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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Dude. Enough with the jetsream already! Its all you talk about. No offense. But go get a jetstream, and post in their forums.
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Maedhros said:
tbh go save your money or spend it on something worth the money like the Jetstream or the Ipad2.
Tablet S just does not compare. In every single way my jetstream was better, so I ended up returning the TS.
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The Jetstream blows.
Hi guys,
New thing, i notice this on both i9100 phones (the one i sended back and the new one from today). There are like to almost same dimension parallel stains/distortions(?) on the bottom half of the screen and you can notice them only if is dark/semi-dark in the room and your phone is in front of a monitor/hdtv with a withe screen, in other conditions they can't be notice and from what i can tell they don't alter the image in any way. I will post a image from the first phone (the second one is almost the same) if you guys notice them or not, or you have a theory, please post.
Thanks.
Looks to me like a small manufacturing mark or defect in the polarising filter on the screen. I wouldn't be concerned with this, i doubt you'll ever get an LCD that doesn't have something like this.
the reason it is only showing up in front of a TV or screen is because the light coming off it is polarised. normally this shouldn't be visible, so the manufacturers aren't concerned
Somebody please correct me if i am wrong
No, i'm not concerned. I think is probably from the machine that holds the glass during production or assembly (because there are two i9100 with the same shape of the stains). I just wandered if other owners of i9100 notice the same thing with their phones, but from what i see nobody bothers...oh well, thanks anyway.
Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
666fff said:
Well my phone doesn't have that. And phones I've had before haven't had that. If it doesn't bother you then that's fine...personally I'd be and would get a replacement.
These phones should be *perfect*
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Ok sir, i will play this game, lets talk facts:
- This is my second phone after returning the first phone with the same problem and some package issue.
- The two phones come from the same online retailer but diffident distributors, this means is bigger than a batch problem.
- The problem is almost identical (two stains same shape), but visible only in one condition (mentioned above) and only from a very wide angle (btw if you tilt the phone in that light and angle the stains change color from darker to lighter).
- It doesn't affect in any way, shape or form the generated image, it can only be seen with the lcd off and in a fluorescent light.
- If you return for the second time the device, you have to wait for betwin 2-10 days (again) for the service department to come with a resolve and you risk to get a money back resolve, witch mean from 4-14 days to transfer your money in your bank account and after you start from the beginning with another retailer (all retailers have the same distributors).
With all above taken into account, honestly, what would you do?
*Hellover, let's play a game*
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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*Hellover, let's play a game*
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I think you're very unlucky to get a replacement with the same problem. Like I said, mine has an absolutely perfect screen, and given the fact this is an expensive flagship handset, everybody should have a perfect screen. Even on cheap phones I've never seen the poor screen QC that I've seen on the GS2, it's a shame. But NEVER accept anything less than flawless. Imagine the blob gets bigger and distorts the image somehow? You will be angry!
Personally, it would be hassle waiting for a replacement or a refund etc, but I'd much rather have my money back or a flawless phone, than hold on to a clearly flawed one. It's bothered you enough to post up on XDA about it. Seriously man, just return it. Maybe get a cheap phone and wait til the Nexus Prime comes out...
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GOD Damm it...man! Now i have to w8 for the "money back guarantee!!!"... i send it back because of YOU!....no man, thanks, you are right, i will settle for one with flawless everything. I attached a picture with the old one and the ex new one side by side.
I will change the retailer. lets hope third is a charm...
Later.
Well, third device, second retailer, same defect. I'm done, i didn't try the withe version but then again i don't like withe, so i will keep this one.
That sucks man. You could upgrade to galaxy nexus soon though!
I was a hardcore, die hard iPhone fan. Bought every single iPhone that came out( as well as other Apple products). The G2 is actually the first phone that impressed me! Most of my mates have S3s,S4s Note2&3s and just thought "WTF!" Their phones (as well as mine) would die by 2PM carrying around some dead piece of useless weight. trying to charge a bunch of batteries was an awfully pain chore too.
The day came were I sat next to this guy in a fully packed bus on a Thursday evening. He pulled out this gorgeous white device, I could barely notice the bezels. The screen was drop dead sexy. "Sorry mate, what phone you got?" I asked politely (this phone needs proper advertising!!!)
"LG G2!... came out yesterday" he replied.
Went home and did some research of this device I had never heard(let alone seen advertised). Its specs just blew all other Android smartphones out the water.
I decided to order one from Clove technology(White 32GB) and click the order button. I later called them to cancel the order but was already dispatched.
Delivery man knocked on the door at 07:14AM precisely. Still having that narrow-minded, typical Apple mentality, I signed the parcel and ditched it on the sofa. Came back home at 10PM and had nothing to do apart from watching TV or play GTA5. Out of curiosity I opened the parcel and opened the box and to my surprise it's the most comfortable phone I've held. It felt light and sturdy. Screen size was perfect. Amazingly fast phone! I've experienced no lag or stutters at all.
The moment came where I finally escaped the darkness. My eyes opened, I realized that the iPhone wasn't the best smartphone in the world. There were much better alternatives out there. It's the best decision I've made in the last decade. I still love Apple products but LG scored a hat-trick with their G2. There's no doubt I'll be buying the next 'G' (G3).
On a typical day at work with extremely heavy use, I usually laugh at my colleagues',(Samsung and iPhone users) bringing a crap load of chargers and batteries to work. By 2PM they'd all start moaning about their battery levels being critically low.
Kind of late now for work but thanks for taking your time to read!:angel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2355416&stc=1&d=1382957078
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Screen brightness was set at 100% all days
Good review. G2 ROCKS.
-LG G2
Yippie..!!
MK45A said:
I was a hardcore, die hard iPhone fan. Bought every single iPhone that came out( as well as other Apple products). The G2 is actually the first phone that impressed me! Most of my mates have S3s,S4s Note2&3s and just thought "WTF!" Their phones (as well as mine) would die by 2PM carrying around some dead piece of useless weight. trying to charge a bunch of batteries was an awfully pain chore too.
The day came were I sat next to this guy in a fully packed bus on a Thursday evening. He pulled out this gorgeous white device, I could barely notice the bezels. The screen was drop dead sexy. "Sorry mate, what phone you got?" I asked politely (this phone needs proper advertising!!!)
"LG G2!... came out yesterday" he replied.
Went home and did some research of this device I had never heard(let alone seen advertised). Its specs just blew all other Android smartphones out the water.
I decided to order one from Clove technology(White 32GB) and click the order button. I later called them to cancel the order but was already dispatched.
Delivery man knocked on the door at 07:14AM precisely. Still having that narrow-minded, typical Apple mentality, I signed the parcel and ditched it on the sofa. Came back home at 10PM and had nothing to do apart from watching TV or play GTA5. Out of curiosity I opened the parcel and opened the box and to my surprise it's the most comfortable phone I've held. It felt light and sturdy. Screen size was perfect. Amazingly fast phone! I've experienced no lag or stutters at all.
The moment came where I finally escaped the darkness. My eyes opened, I realized that the iPhone wasn't the best smartphone in the world. There were much better alternatives out there. It's the best decision I've made in the last decade. I still love Apple products but LG scored a hat-trick with their G2. There's no doubt I'll be buying the next 'G' (G3).
On a typical day at work with extremely heavy use, I usually laugh at my colleagues',(Samsung and iPhone users) bringing a crap load of chargers and batteries to work. By 2PM they'd all start moaning about their battery levels being critically low.
Kind of late now for work but thanks for taking your time to read!:angel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2355416&stc=1&d=1382957078
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Yippie...!!
I too agree that LG needs to know how to advertise the phone properly...Even many of so called mobile crazy guys were not knowing about this one.
Good read! Nice to know you love the g2.
LG G2
SO why did you cancel it in the first place, impulse purchase. That said even i agree i have owned tonz of phones, and i rate this phone as one of the best i have had. Only if they had done something better with back plastic cover(The only gripe)
MK45A said:
I still love Apple products but LG scored a hat-trick with their G2. There's no doubt I'll be buying the next 'G' (G3).
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It's a fantastic phone, and you picked the right phone and the right moment to switch. I have had 4 Android flagship phones before this one, and the LG G2 is a LOT better than anything else that I have tried. My latest Android phone before this one was the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Jumping over to this one is like switching race car from an old truck to a brand new Ferrari.
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SO why did you cancel it in the first place, impulse purchase.
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I purchased it the same evening I saw the phone on the bus. That being said, I was so impressed by its display I made a purchase without making a solid decision. The best mistake I've made and don't regret it.
Good choice, the G2 really is an awesome phone.
LG definitely seems to have been quiet with their advertising around it (I see commercials for the iPhone, SGS4 and Moto X all the time and I think I've seen a G2 commercial maybe once or twice).
How did you put the stock android screen buttons on the G2 on those screenshots?
MK45A said:
I was a hardcore, die hard iPhone fan. Bought every single iPhone that came out( as well as other Apple products). The G2 is actually the first phone that impressed me! Most of my mates have S3s,S4s Note2&3s and just thought "WTF!" Their phones (as well as mine) would die by 2PM carrying around some dead piece of useless weight. trying to charge a bunch of batteries was an awfully pain chore too.
The day came were I sat next to this guy in a fully packed bus on a Thursday evening. He pulled out this gorgeous white device, I could barely notice the bezels. The screen was drop dead sexy. "Sorry mate, what phone you got?" I asked politely (this phone needs proper advertising!!!)
"LG G2!... came out yesterday" he replied.
Went home and did some research of this device I had never heard(let alone seen advertised). Its specs just blew all other Android smartphones out the water.
I decided to order one from Clove technology(White 32GB) and click the order button. I later called them to cancel the order but was already dispatched.
Delivery man knocked on the door at 07:14AM precisely. Still having that narrow-minded, typical Apple mentality, I signed the parcel and ditched it on the sofa. Came back home at 10PM and had nothing to do apart from watching TV or play GTA5. Out of curiosity I opened the parcel and opened the box and to my surprise it's the most comfortable phone I've held. It felt light and sturdy. Screen size was perfect. Amazingly fast phone! I've experienced no lag or stutters at all.
The moment came where I finally escaped the darkness. My eyes opened, I realized that the iPhone wasn't the best smartphone in the world. There were much better alternatives out there. It's the best decision I've made in the last decade. I still love Apple products but LG scored a hat-trick with their G2. There's no doubt I'll be buying the next 'G' (G3).
On a typical day at work with extremely heavy use, I usually laugh at my colleagues',(Samsung and iPhone users) bringing a crap load of chargers and batteries to work. By 2PM they'd all start moaning about their battery levels being critically low.
Kind of late now for work but thanks for taking your time to read!:angel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2355416&stc=1&d=1382957078
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2355417&stc=1&d=1382957078
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Gotta say it was very pleasant to read this!
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Sensamic said:
How did you put the stock android screen buttons on the G2 on those screenshots?
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He has probably rooted. I know there's mods for that
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Sensamic said:
How did you put the stock android screen buttons on the G2 on those screenshots?
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Firstly, you must be rooted.
1. Download' Xposed installer' and install it.
Link Xposed installer': (can't do that, I'm under 10 posts:crying: so google it
2. Go to the Play store and download 'G2 xposed'
3. Restart phone
4. Open up 'Xposed installer', select 'modules' then select 'Xposed LG G2 [1.2]'
5. Modify your device...:angel:
The only thing Iphone have over android is resell value and looks.
I personally think G2 is the best android phone out right now. Samsung is turning in apple where they are just milking there customers.
Same here.This phone is amazing.
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Damasterjj said:
The only thing Iphone have over android is resell value and looks.
I personally think G2 is the best android phone out right now. Samsung is turning in apple where they are just milking there customers.
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My exact thoughts.
LG G2
Damasterjj said:
The only thing Iphone have over android is resell value and looks.
I personally think G2 is the best android phone out right now. Samsung is turning in apple where they are just milking there customers.
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I don't see a valid point in resell value of smartphones. I understand what you mean like the iPhones where you can resell for ridiculous prices compared to Androids and BBs. However, nearly nobody nowadays buys used smartphones. Myself for example, I'd rather donate them than sell them for £80= roughly $120 after I spent a ridiculous amount of money on them after I've kept them for 12-months. I'd be psychologically happy in helping someone by donating it to them than being ripped off. IMHO with the rapid loss of value in smartphones, there are two feasible options
1. Donate it or 2.keep it, but getting ripped for stupid resell prices? it's totally up to you.
People in this day and age want the latest technology, not some outdated stuff. I can't name a single person wanting to buy or currently owning a used smartphone.
^I wonder what part of the world you live in. Take 30 seconds and look through the cell phone section on Craigslist, refresh it in a few hours... Yeah.
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xketch said:
^I wonder what part of the world you live in. Take 30 seconds and look through the cell phone section on Craigslist, refresh it in a few hours... Yeah.
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Looking through Gumtree ( Craigslist equivalent) over half of the G2's for sale are sealed and not used. They were unwanted upgrades. Paying attention to when the used ones were uploaded, they're quite old by at least a week whereas the sealed once go live and are sold within the first week...
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I don't see a valid point in resell value of smartphones. I understand what you mean like the iPhones where you can resell for ridiculous prices compared to Androids and BBs. However, nearly nobody nowadays buys used smartphones. Myself for example, I'd rather donate them than sell them for £80= roughly $120 after I spent a ridiculous amount of money on them after I've kept them for 12-months. I'd be psychologically happy in helping someone by donating it to them than being ripped off. IMHO with the rapid loss of value in smartphones, there are two feasible options
1. Donate it or 2.keep it, but getting ripped for stupid resell prices? it's totally up to you.
People in this day and age want the latest technology, not some outdated stuff. I can't name a single person wanting to buy or currently owning a used smartphone.
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you are right in one thing a typical android phone sells for $120~ after 2 years. But Iphone on the other hand after 2 years still command $200~. plus its easier to sell use iphone products than android
that's just you but some people do buy use phones.
MK45A said:
. My eyes opened, I realized that the iPhone wasn't the best smartphone in the world. There were much better alternatives out there.
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this made me laugh sorry lol
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MK45A said:
I don't see a valid point in resell value of smartphones. I understand what you mean like the iPhones where you can resell for ridiculous prices compared to Androids and BBs. However, nearly nobody nowadays buys used smartphones. Myself for example, I'd rather donate them than sell them for £80= roughly $120 after I spent a ridiculous amount of money on them after I've kept them for 12-months. I'd be psychologically happy in helping someone by donating it to them than being ripped off. IMHO with the rapid loss of value in smartphones, there are two feasible options
1. Donate it or 2.keep it, but getting ripped for stupid resell prices? it's totally up to you.
People in this day and age want the latest technology, not some outdated stuff. I can't name a single person wanting to buy or currently owning a used smartphone.
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Are you serious, so you still live in planet earth? I buy and sell used phones everyday.
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I know this is a Xperia Z Ultra forum, but with the Nexus 6 being around the corner, and heavily rumored to being a 5.9in phone I was wondering if anyone was going to make the switch? Since there isn't an announced true successor to the Ultra I find myself compelled to head back to the Nexus experience. I am a little bummed the phone isn't bigger, but I think I can do without half an inch of screen. What are everyone's thoughts on the Nexus 6?
Couldn't and WOULDN'T!
I was actually tempted to THINK about the possibility of making such a (IMHO) foolish thing too! But then I realized I could never give up my 6.44" screen! Sure it's going to be a killer device...faster, qHD, more memory, stock Android, the works. But I then realized this is all I'll ever need in a device anyway and it's as close to vanilla Android right out of the box.
So I actually ordered another XZU (not the GPe) from Expansys! They dropped the price again to a new record low of $314.99. I live in Indiana so I get it the next day for the fee of standard shipping and pay no tax. This puppy is STILL A BEAST and at $314.99 it'd be crazy to throw money at another device that'll be most likely obsolete in 2 to 3 weeks anyway. At the current rate manufacturers are releasing devices how can any device remain current more than a month???
When, if ever, they were to announce a true successor to this beast that's when I'd seriously think about upgrading. For right now...for the time being...this is still a perfect solution. People are snapping these up as fast as they get them in stock.
The kicker for me is my wife wants the older one! When the one I ordered gets here Wednesday afternoon I'll be rooting that bad boy by Wednesday night. I bought a lot of the Sony accessories anyway, so I'd most likely go with the closest thing to an XZU update as possible if and when that ever happens in the future.
Of course that's just my .02¢.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/
TheFamilyMan said:
I was actually tempted to THINK about the possibility of making such a (IMHO) foolish thing too! But then I realized I could never give up my 6.44" screen! Sure it's going to be a killer device...faster, qHD, more memory, stock Android, the works. But I then realized this is all I'll ever need in a device anyway and it's as close to vanilla Android right out of the box.
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well said........
I'm afraid that I'm in the opposite camp.
While I love my Ultra when I'm using it, the sheer size means that it's a pain when I'm carrying it around (whether it's in trousers or coat pocket). Even finding somewhere in my cars to put it is a challenge.
So I've just agreed to buy a Nexus 6 - picking it up this evening. I'll hold on to the Ultra until I'm sure that the N6 meets my needs, but I think that I'm willing to give up that small amount of screen real estate for the convenience of having a smaller phone to carry around.
I hate Apple products with a vengeance, and would never own one, but I will admit that they often get it right on ergonomics, and the iPhone 6 Plus (which is about the same size as the Nexus 6) seems to hit the sweet spot as far as the size/screen convenience/functionality balance goes.
Plus the Nexus has better speakers than the Ultra (I make most of my calls on speakerphone and the Ultra is pretty poor in this respect) and supports Qi charging, which is nice.
Hey guys, friendly, neighborhood, T-Mo Sony (Z3) enthusiast here. Congrats on the Lollipop!
So, the wife and I have been going back and forth over her wanting to leave for Verizon (because, she suffers from unreliable reliability?). Between my bias for Sony and T-mo's features (I listen to music all day at work w/o data restrictions), I'm reluctant to leave. (Note: the back has started to peel off so I'm on borrowed time with this Z anyway)
If I WERE to leave, I can't tell if Sony/Verizon relations have deteriorated after the Z4v debacle where they won't get the X, or if I should look at the Nexus 6P, the new LG, or the :shivers: S7 Edge (I've been avoiding Samsung, but that VR tho). I'm afraid of both, getting stuck with Verizon and without a new Sony phone for a while (or forever?).
A few days back, I'd told the Mrs. I could cheaply get a Z3v online but then read the complaints on these forums and backed up/out. You wouldn't believe the eye-roll I got when I said I might look at the Z again after the update, lol. So what do y'all say? Is it worth staying in the Sony ecosystem (I rarely use but enjoy the PS4 connectivity), should I look at other Verizon phones, or just stick with T-Mo and get the X later?
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It really depends on what you're looking for. The Galaxy S7 is hailing great remarks because it's now very refined in its premium body, expandable storage and waterproofing returns. For the average consumer nowadays, they just want the latest and greatest tech.
It's impossible to really tell if Sony isn't going to release anymore phones Verizon. The chances are highly slim, but who knows what they have in store about the new X series. So you may grab this phone for cheap on eBay, but you're only going to get as far as you can in playing around and customizing to an extent until it gets a bootloader unlock. I don't know if you're interested in that, but that's it now for a phone that Verizon isn't going to do much more for it.
Be aware that the USB door has problems with seal tearing, and camera in camera/video mode will overheat in hotter ambient temperatures (sometimes for no reason) and shut down, other than that nice phone.
Like the rest, don't see the Z3v getting anything past Lollipop unless it gets an unlocked bootloader, although some articles say it will see Marshmallow.
Flaps aren't a issue with the z3v because you can just wirelessly charge. Limiting wear on them. And yes I think add of right now this phone will easily hold me over another year. I'll see about the X when it comes out.
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I'm getting close to just pulling the trigger on the Z3v. I figure, its cheap enough that if something miraculous happens between Sony and Verizon, OR if Sony's next phones DON'T accommodate CDMA, it won't feel like such a financial hit if I move on, in either direction.
Now, I just have to find a good, clean, reliable version of this device. ...And possibly some way to cover that obnoxious "Verizon" logo up top.
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I'm getting close to just pulling the trigger on the Z3v. I figure, its cheap enough that if something miraculous happens between Sony and Verizon, OR if Sony's next phones DON'T accommodate CDMA, it won't feel like such a financial hit if I move on, in either direction.
Now, I just have to find a good, clean, reliable version of this device. ...And possibly some way to cover that obnoxious "Verizon" logo up top.
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It's a great phone, nonetheless. For how undervalued this phone is priced at, it's a great buy for a compatible phone the largest network in the US and it's a flagship spec phone from 2014, not some midrange phone.
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It's a great phone, nonetheless. For how undervalued this phone is priced at, it's a great buy for a compatible phone the largest network in the US and it's a flagship spec phone from 2014, not some midrange phone.
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Yea, that's the message I'm getting here in the forums. My wife is dumbfounded at my love of Sony. But she'll be pleased when my Z3v comes in the mail, later today(!)...
The sacrifices I make, amirite?
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I have a cheap wireless charger ($10) from Amazon, so I never open the flap for charging. OBVIOUSLY, opening and closing the rubber flap every day is going to wear it out. Because it's . . .
-rubber.
I have a high end (as fast as Sandisk currently makes) 200GB micro SD in both of my z3vs. I have the rooted lollipop release from this site (with brighter led thanks to GigaSPX), which gives me a great variety of customization options (Xposed framework), VIPER4Android FX for INCREDIBLE sound customization, enabled the internal FM radio, updated camera (which I don't recommend yet until it's refined better), etc...
But no matter what, people seem to always want more. I liken that mentality to people camping out in cities at Apple stores awaiting the iPhone 5c. What a let-down THAT was. LOL!
This phone is an incredible device on it's own merit, in both capabilities and craftsmanship. Add just a few tweaks via root, and it serves as the penultimate "best bang for the buck" phone out there.
I got my first one on contract (line renewal) for just $99. It sat there, unloved, unattended, while people were surrounding the iPhone 6s like it was the second coming of Christ or something. I went home and did my research, and I went back the very next day and got it. I bought a second one off Amazon recently for over $300 (NIB) because to me, an average cost of $200 is still a bargain for the z3v (rooted w/ Lollipop, that is). Add 200GB to each one for an additional 100 bucks each, and still, for an average cost of $300, this phone is amazing.
Is the z3v still worth getting? IMO, Yes. Look at the hardware specs plus the camera. If you can pick one up for $250-300, add 200GB to it for $100 (Amazon), root it and upgrade to Lollipop, and pledge a few bucks to encourage complete unlock for custom ROM development, it's still a fantastic deal.
HIGHLY recommend a wireless charger to keep the flaps water tight.
A big downer is the lack of case choices out there. No argument there.
Yeah, I got one (refurbished) coming sometime today, along with the Incipio case, Sony's wireless portable charging pad, and an Illumisheild. I already have a 64gb micro SD, but maybe I'll look into a larger one. Its been a while since I've done any rooting or whatever on my own, so I might wait a bit. Seems like more than enough to hold me over 'til the next best thing from Sony drops. Its honestly a lateral move from my T-Mo Z3. I'm gaining wireless charging and I'll have yet to see if the T-mo treats (unlimited data, free music streaming, wifi router) will be missed.