When my Z3C broke down and I got a refund I decided to get a Z5C, especially for the USB port.
Big mistake, I hate the battery life of the Z5C compared to the Z3C.
I've tried many things: greenify, underclock but nothing has a big impact.
So I was thinking, would it be possible to shut down four cores completely?
So I would just run 4x A53 all time and shut down the A57?
I understand that would have an impact on performance, but if it's possible I would like to give it a try.
This answers my own question.
I will post results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...p-quad-core-manager-ultimate-battery-t2369297
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When my Z3C broke down and I got a refund I decided to get a Z5C, especially for the USB port.
Big mistake, I hate the battery life of the Z5C compared to the Z3C.
I've tried many things: greenify, underclock but nothing has a big impact.
So I was thinking, would it be possible to shut down four cores completely?
So I would just run 4x A53 all time and shut down the A57?
I understand that would have an impact on performance, but if it's possible I would like to give it a try.
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I am wondering this too, waiting for results.
harry_turtle said:
When my Z3C broke down and I got a refund I decided to get a Z5C, especially for the USB port.
Big mistake, I hate the battery life of the Z5C compared to the Z3C.
I've tried many things: greenify, underclock but nothing has a big impact.
So I was thinking, would it be possible to shut down four cores completely?
So I would just run 4x A53 all time and shut down the A57?
I understand that would have an impact on performance, but if it's possible I would like to give it a try.
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If you are still on Lollipop, battery isn't very good. Since the MM update I've seen much improvement. Maybe not stellar, but still much better.
I couldn't find a proper app to arrange this unfortunately. I've used a few from the playstore but they all were inconsistend in their behaviour.
harry_turtle said:
When my Z3C broke down and I got a refund I decided to get a Z5C, especially for the USB port.
Big mistake, I hate the battery life of the Z5C compared to the Z3C.
I've tried many things: greenify, underclock but nothing has a big impact.
So I was thinking, would it be possible to shut down four cores completely?
So I would just run 4x A53 all time and shut down the A57?
I understand that would have an impact on performance, but if it's possible I would like to give it a try.
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Try using the Aggresive Doze feature in Greenify. And also, the battery life has increased since the last update as it has been optimized by Sony.
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can you comment already ?
Actually, after 8.8.3.33 (not just ICS), I've noticed battery life to be excellent on standby, but less in actual use. I seem to run between 10%-15%/hour use when doing normal things (browsing, RSS reading, etc.).
I've been using some apps to look for the culprit, and all I've found so far is that the Prime seems to spend more time at 1200MHz and less time at lower speeds. I seem to remember more of a distribution of speeds prior to .33. I wonder if they didn't make the Tegra 3's mode changing less aggressive or something in the later builds.
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I wonder if they didn't make the Tegra 3's mode changing less aggressive or something in the later builds.
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another thing to take care of in custom rom I think, Devs
I think that ASUS and Nvidia will be making these adjustments for awhile. This is very new tech, and as they tweak one thing, another thing gets worse. I'm pretty confident that after a few more revisions they'll find a good balance between performance and battery life.
I remember some people complaining that there was a noticeable hitch as the Tegra 3 switch power states, and so maybe an adjustment was made to reduce the number of switches. Probably they just need to give some more weight to lower-power states.
I also notice that in ICS (didn't test it in .33), Power saver mode doesn't seem to have much of an impact. I need to run some longer tests, but certainly I can't notice any performance difference. So, that lends credence to the theory (at least to me, with the limited info I have) that the power settings are a little funky at the moment.
Everything on the N6P fit my bill except I'm still a bit skeptical on battery life. Its got one of the biggest battery capacity right now of 3450 mAh + new marshmallow power saving feature but I'm worried about the power hungry Qualcomm 810. My current G4 is only with 3000 mAh which I get roughly ~3-4hr SOT of gaming/chat/browsing/GPS which only last me 2/3 of the day so I always carry two batteries. (I hate carrying an urine pack). Compare to N6P, G4 also use 808 processor. I'm wondering if N6P on single charge can finally last me a full day. I found none of hands-on got battery remarks, so wondering if anyone got any reference data
im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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The faster charging negates this stuff for me, I'm very rarely not around an outlet.
i don't have any technical sources to help my argument, but the use of 4 low-power cores should, in theory, help the 810 be the "better performer" when it comes to battery management. additionally, marshmallow is designed to suspend/kill processes that are battery dependent when the device has reached some level of sleep.
what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
where i suspect the unknown impact to battery life will be lies within the micro-permission controls at the application level. having the ability to deny certain settings may help to extend battery and performance. on the flip side, i also see devs getting smarter about these controls and forcing the application to not even function if you disable a key role.
whatever happens, the 3450 ought to have better battery life than my '13 2200mAh X.
Between the 3450 battery and fast charge, I have no worries at all.
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what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
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I don't think it has to be face down. But if it's stationary, it will go into deep sleep and start killing off unnecessary processes. What's annoying about the N6 is that the back isn't flat. I constantly see my n6 waking up to display content on the screen from simply being on the same surface as my keyboard. The N6P being mostly flat, would wobble less when left on a desk.
thagringo said:
im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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ambervals6 said:
If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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Also Sony Z5 and Z5 compact
I'm running Marshmallow on my N9 now and I have to say the idle battery drain is greatly improved. Granted I've had it on M for less than 48 hours but last night for example I set my tablet down around 1am. At 7:30am this morning it had dropped from 86% to 84%.
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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JasonJoel said:
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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Could also be brightness level adjustments.
JasonJoel said:
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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After this N5 which can barely give 3 hrs SOT at best, I'd be more than happy to get even a sure 4.5 hrs [emoji14]
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I'm expecting over 6+ hours of SoT. I get 5 hours and a few minuted with my Note 4. If doze doesn't beat that, I'm returning it and opting for the Z5 instead.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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Even though I don't have one yet, I'm going out on a limb and say it will last as long as it is charged! :silly:
I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core clocked at 1.8ghz. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz,
BAM! Snapdragon 808.
This should pretty much negate any overheating issues, because does the 808 overheat? No. Will this boost battery performance? Yes. Will the phone still be usable? Heck yeah.
I will probably end up doing this before it's over with. It wouldn't be quite as lightning fast as it will be full speed ahead, but I'm coming from a nexus 4 with an s4 pro (The equivalent of an underclocked snapdragon 600). I'm hoping with this configuration, 24 hours with 7 hours sot.
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I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz, and bam. Snapdragon 808.
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And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x?
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ambervals6 said:
And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x
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Yeah pretty much. Haha.
In all honesty though, they preform just fine, and battery life is one of the most important features to me. It's all personal preference.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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ofcourse not 2k screen will sux that battery like a wh*****
and huawei battery tec is not good at all just check their phone with over 4000 battery
i expect to get about 5h sot on 6p
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I'm almost decided on this phone but battery life is probably the most important thing for me and I'm finding completely different test results. Some say it shows the small battery size, others say it's unbelievably good probably due to a less power CPU and smaller lower resolution screen. A youtube reviewer even claims he gets about the same battery life on the X as on his S7 Edge. Video playback seems to be the week point here but I don't watch many videos on my phones, just the ocasional youtube clip.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of people owning this phone so I can't find much information from a regular user perspective. So how has battery life been for you? At least as good as the old Z2 or Z3?
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I'm almost decided on this phone but battery life is probably the most important thing for me and I'm finding completely different test results. Some say it shows the small battery size, others say it's unbelievably good probably due to a less power CPU and smaller lower resolution screen. A youtube reviewer even claims he gets about the same battery life on the X as on his S7 Edge. Video playback seems to be the week point here but I don't watch many videos on my phones, just the ocasional youtube clip.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of people owning this phone so I can't find much information from a regular user perspective. So how has battery life been for you? At least as good as the old Z2 or Z3?
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I'm easily getting 4.5hrs+ screen time on my xa I know it's a different specc'd device but I think they've done a good job with the hardware+software optimization on the x range of device's. I don't see why the x should be any worse
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I'm easily getting 4.5hrs+ screen time on my xa I know it's a different specc'd device but I think they've done a good job with the hardware+software optimization on the x range of device's. I don't see why the x should be any worse
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It should actually be better and that's what I'm having a hard time believing. Your numbers do match up with the expect numbers considering the diferences between models. Maybe it's the Qnovo Adaptive Charging, they claim that makes the battery have a better charge time and lifespan
It is very good compared to my previous M5. They have done amazing job with this phone. If you look at the specs for X Performance, you will realize that Sony have removed the "2 days battery life" claim from that phone, most likely because of the processor bump.
I am able to watch offline youtube for close to 4 hours on this phone. Waze is another matter.
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It should actually be better and that's what I'm having a hard time believing. Your numbers do match up with the expect numbers considering the diferences between models. Maybe it's the Qnovo Adaptive Charging, they claim that makes the battery have a better charge time and lifespan
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I know the x has a slightly bigger battery but compared to my previous Xperia the m2 which had a almost identical size battery yet smaller screen and alot less power I'm impressed with the xa's battery performance and stand by drain. I know you can't really accurately compare a two year old device with a new one but I'm still impressed the x can't be that bad
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Battery life is good for me, I get 1-2 days out of it, for one full day it's always more then enough. My old Z5 compact was still a wee bit better though.
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Around 5hrs onscreen with moderate gaming, Facebook and Google now disabled.
It's just fine, but i still want more.
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It's just fine, but i still want more.
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Yeh, I figured it's really good for the battery size but not really up to what I'm used to.
Thanks much guys! :good:
Hi guys, this is something that keeps me up at night. The recent software update was supposed to make performance of the Moto Z better, and in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about, but when it comes to benchmarks it's a whole different story, I have the uk version by the way. To be frank, I used to get about 129 000 in antutu, which is pretty low to start with, and now it's down to 126 000, geekbench is lower than you would expect from this phone too, at about 1350 single core and 3810 multicore. So basically I started this thread as a place where we could share our benchmark results and discuss them, because I have a feeling I just got an unlucky unit, because it also gets real hot real fast (up to 60 degrees celcium), and I can't make it last for more that 4 hours of screen on time, and I'm really not a heavy user. I just feel strange about this phone, because I love everything else about it, and it’s good that I do, because resale value on these things is beyond awful, tried to sell it for 500 bucks for months with no success.
Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Benchmarks mean abso-farking-lutly nothing. If they are keeping you up any night, you have a mental issue. I suggest you see a shrink.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Well, there is no reason to be so toxic my friend, my main concern is that I may be the only one here with such a low score, and since the score got even lower after some time that could mean I may have a defective device, and that would be a real problem to keep me up at night.
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The only benchmark that matters is the one between your ears. And according to you, it passed.
in actual daily usage I find nothing to complain about
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All others are a waste of time.
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I don't think there's a problem with your unit, 4 hours screen on time sounds normal without the battery mod on. That drop in benchmark score isn't very significant unless it continues to drop dramatically. I have the UK model too, and it is underclocked by default to 1.8GHz. You could try the Turbo Z kernel to improve it
Also mine gets really hot fast when using Daydream VR or anything intensive but 60 °C isn't dangerous for the SD820. (You could check battery use in settings incase something is keeping your phone awake.)
Geekbench 4:
Single core 1369
Multi core 3779
Seems benchmarks are pretty similar. I'm on rooted Android N but stock kernel so same as yours.
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Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
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Thank you for your comforting and friendly reply, in battery settings Android OS, Android system, and phone idle are on top when I'm not using the phone actively, I've had laughable results sometimes, like yesterday I had 30 percent battery left with only about an hour of screen on time, again no gaming involved, but this usually happens when I'm moving around, if I stay at home and nothing happens to the phone it usually won't drain battery like that. I think the reason the phone gets hot easily is obviously because of how thin it is, for example, when I keep it in the pocket it's just as hot as my body tempreture, since it just absorbs heat that easily, but has a hard time getting rid of it.
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You're welcome. If you click on the graph you can see the awake time too, lately something has been keeping mine awake and draining the battery too. Not sure what it is yet, but if yours is getting really bad screen on time it could be similar. Likely an app running in the background keeping the phone awake which would heat it up more and drain the battery. There are wake lock detection apps that claim to be able to tell you which is causing this.
As you can see it's awake for long periods of time when the screen is off, and it really shouldn't be. Hope this helps :good:
So I just picked up a Galaxy tab S7 plus 128GB with 5g.
Before purchasing I watched and read benchmark reviews but I'm getting considerably less performance than pretty much all benchmarks I have seen.
Single core/gpu/memory benchmarks are exactly where they should be but multicore is around 20% less than expected.
This is a new device, I even did a factory reset and tried again, not much installed and settings are default.
Anyone have any ideas?
I don't think you should believe in benchmarks anymore, it's better to refer to real-world tests and reviews from users.
Actually many Android devices have implemented hidden switches which temporarily disables thermal/performance constraints when it detects a benchmarking app being run (similar to a defeat device) so it scores much higher than it normally should, with a risk that the device might be damaged due to overheat and such.
From my experience, Samsung isn't doing well with the optimizations, making some games lag horribly, and this is getting even worse with the most recent Android 11 update.
I was just a little disappointed that's all, multicore is only slightly higher than my snapdragon 855 phone, nubia red magic 3. Much better single core, gaming and emulation though on the tablet.
It is running great though and I'm enjoying it.
Love the device ..... But it seems to handle Kodi worse than my Nvidia Shield. That's my pretty anecdotal comparison for Android devices
So after a bit of playing around I think I found the main culprit, it was nova launcher prime.
After using the tablet for a day I looked at the battery stats and noticed that it was constantly running and used over 20% of the battery over time.
Uninstalled and benchmarks are much better but not completely there, in geek bench 5 I get 980 single and 2950 multi, was 2600 multi.
I expect 3000-3200 from this device so only a little under now, it is possible that the benchmarks I saw were using android 10 before the update to 11.
Looking at the battery stats One UI is under 2% battery consumption by comparison.
Johnnio said:
So after a bit of playing around I think I found the main culprit, it was nova launcher prime.
After using the tablet for a day I looked at the battery stats and noticed that it was constantly running and used over 20% of the battery over time.
Uninstalled and benchmarks are much better but not completely there, in geek bench 5 I get 980 single and 2950 multi, was 2600 multi.
I expect 3000-3200 from this device so only a little under now, it is possible that the benchmarks I saw were using android 10 before the update to 11.
Looking at the battery stats One UI is under 2% battery consumption by comparison.
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Wow .... Would have never guessed. I do in fact always use Nova. Maybe I should delete. Wish I could save (backup) desktops like with Nova
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Wow .... Would have never guessed. I do in fact always use Nova. Maybe I should delete. Wish I could save (backup) desktops like with Nova
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I was surprised too as I have been using it for years now.
Not saying 100% that it will solve your your issue but it is at least worth considering.
It could be a problem my end or even perhaps how android 11 records battery usage but Samsung UI has 1.8% battery usage vs 20% for nova launcher, I need to use the tablet longer to see if that translates to longer screen on time.
Johnnio said:
I was surprised too as I have been using it for years now.
Not saying 100% that it will solve your your issue but it is at least worth considering.
It could be a problem my end or even perhaps how android 11 records battery usage but Samsung UI has 1.8% battery usage vs 20% for nova launcher, I need to use the tablet longer to see if that translates to longer screen on time.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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I'll report back in a day or so with a screen on report.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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So, a couple of days later I would say that I do seem to be getting more out of the battery, around one hour more with the same mixed usage, YouTube, gaming, reddit is fun app, Firefox, screen brightness 65%, volume full, 120Hz with WiFi and mobile data enabled.
Screen on time from 100% to 10% is roughly 7 hours, not as good as I was hoping for but I am hammering it and I expect that the battery test videos I have seen are using auto brightness.