I've been searching the net if it is possible to take long exposure photos on smartphones. I found some but can we do it with our Z2?
jelmerpeligrino said:
I've been searching the net if it is possible to take long exposure photos on smartphones. I found some but can we do it with our Z2?
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It would be perfectly possible, if Sony would be so nice and would include Camera2 API access into their Lollipop/Marshmallow ROM. But they didn't.
There is a solution - Long exposure camera app, it will somehow achieve the effect (my guess is more photos, combined together). It works rather well for light traces, etc., but the result's aren't greatest. + quite low res results.
kokesh said:
It would be perfectly possible, if Sony would be so nice and would include Camera2 API access into their Lollipop/Marshmallow ROM. But they didn't.
There is a solution - Long exposure camera app, it will somehow achieve the effect (my guess is more photos, combined together). It works rather well for light traces, etc., but the result's aren't greatest. + quite low res results.
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Thanks bro. I hope Sony will finally realized about changing the Camera2 API2 for Sony Xperia devices.
to some lengts, yes
jelmerpeligrino said:
Thanks bro. I hope Sony will finally realized about changing the Camera2 API2 for Sony Xperia devices.
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If couple of seconds works for you then Try using:
camera fv5
as i tried i think effective is max 5 seconds, maybe somebody else hase solved this
Long exposure pbotos you cant and you could take with Z2 cause Sony does not make Camera 2API for Z2.
You can try,like someone said try with FV-5 do few exposures instead of that.
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stipi69 said:
If couple of seconds works for you then Try using:
camera fv5
as i tried i think effective is max 5 seconds, maybe somebody else hase solved this
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The dev is probably using hacks to even get that.
If you get a Sony, just know you're going to have to use the stock camera. For me that's a total deal breaker.
Even their unreleased X series will be without camera2.
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Hi everybody, I'm testing the xperia z2 from 20 April and I'm waiting the safe drm keys backup.
Camera quality is great but the auto mode pictures need to be more detailed. Could someone develop a module for xposed framework
like the z1 mode ? Thank for your answers !:fingers-crossed:
If you have question about the z2 you can ask me here (I'm sitting hard exams during 3 weeks it could take time before I answer you):highfive:
Sony disabled this because different settings cause different effects
20mp is general there for fun
Sony has focused on making Superior Auto actually work and really good too, so those 8mp shots will be better looking than 20mp, 20mp will just have that high resolution
You can decompile the cameraUI.apk and modify the values your self but i don't recommend
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I think the xposed module to enable 20mp superiour auto actualy works on Z2 but i have yet to test
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Envious_Data said:
Sony disabled this because different settings cause different effects
20mp is general there for fun
Sony has focused on making Superior Auto actually work and really good too, so those 8mp shots will be better looking than 20mp, 20mp will just have that high resolution
You can decompile the cameraUI.apk and modify the values your self but i don't recommend
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I think the xposed module to enable 20mp superiour auto actualy works on Z2 but i have yet to test
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So I will wait for good updates from Sony. 20mp is just for having more sharpness.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742568
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Bombdog's link is interesting, I would try later when I would have unlock my Z2.(Due to my 80 hours of exams I haven't the time to look at the whole Z2 forum which is growning each week )
We really need a safe drm backup and I think that Doomlord will soon release that we are waiting from this beautiful device !
PS : sry for my "bad" english and thank for your answers !!!!!!!
Rilavalon said:
We really need a safe drm backup and I think that Doomlord will soon release that we are waiting from this beautiful device !
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To do that Doomloird would need a root exploit, with isn't available right now. And nothing seems to give hope that it will be released soon.
Apparently the guys from "DXOMARK" have gotten their hands on the Xperia z3+ and put it through their tests.To my surprise Sony seems to have finetuned their great sensor to the extent that an xperia device occupies the third place in "DXOMARK" top: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Plus-review-Improved-rankings-for-latest-iteration
What are your thoughts on this?Is there any way to port Z3+'s camera wizardry to our beloved Z2? )
You can port the camera app but 70% of the features wont work and camera quality wont be changed.
Envious_Data said:
You can port the camera app but 70% of the features wont work and camera quality wont be changed.
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Why ?
nreuge said:
Why ?
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Well the hardware doesnt change and nor does the camera driver in the kernel
Maybe some changes will happen due to FW/SW libs but at best we wont see much change nor improvement for quality
As for features working, Z2 doesnt have manual camera control unlike Z3+.
Camera from Z3+ is not better than one in Z2.Z2 can expand much for quailty in manual mode so finally results would be almoust the same like Z3+.
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I need some help here, as this is my very first Android phone and I suspect the Sony software/photo processing is overprocessing my photos. I purchased the phone last week and was caught up figuring out the Android system. Now that things are settling, I am playing with the camera and getting very anxious about the poor camera quality.
I have tried a variety of photos (bright conditions, low light, fill flash) and honestly none of them were remotely satisfactory: the lack of detail overprocessing is terrible. I used to shoot commercially and I am coming from a Nokia 808 Pureview but I simply cannot accept that my standards are that high that a modern new phone would not be able to satisfy me.
Could anyone help me with the following:
- Is there an option to use a app for shooting photos and bypass Sony Camera app? If so, which app is recommended?
- Is there an option to shoot RAW and develop the photos myself??
- How could I test the hardware to find out whether the camera is actually defective?
Thanks in advance,
BB
Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
Woza72 said:
Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
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Found it - it was under "ALL" apps. I disabled and stopped it. Going out for new photos to try this out.
Thanks!
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Woza72 said:
Try going into settings, apps, locate 'photo analyzer service' and disable/uninstall it.
I have no issues or problems with my camera.
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I disabled, went out and took some photos and same issues. Photos were taken at mediocre lighting conditions, so tomorrow during the day I plan on taking some photos again.
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There are other apps, A Better Camera, etc. To the best of my knowledge the RAW can't be accessed because Sony's API doesnt support it. So without a better API, the Sony app is probably the best choice. Have you tried playing with the manual mode settings?
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There are other apps, A Better Camera, etc. To the best of my knowledge the RAW can't be accessed because Sony's API doesnt support it. So without a better API, the Sony app is probably the best choice. Have you tried playing with the manual mode settings?
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Manual mode is pretty skimpy, only allowing me to control exposure and white balance.
And I received a replacement Z5C from Amazon today, so I'll be able to compare cameras and decide if maybe my first unit was defective.
Cheers,
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Manual mode is pretty skimpy, only allowing me to control exposure and white balance.
And I received a replacement Z5C from Amazon today, so I'll be able to compare cameras and decide if maybe my first unit was defective.
Cheers,
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There's a whole huge thread on the quality of the camera in the main Xperia Z5 subforum. The consensus opinion is basically that for most occasions you want to stick with the super-sampled 8mp SA. Poor light conditions you want to also stay with 8mp, but hold the camera steady until the tripod icon comes up, or shoot in manual night mode. And only in bright daylight conditions should you attempt to use the 20 and 23mp modes.
Hello all,
I just bought a Z2 (second hand) as I wanted a phone with a high quality camera and apparently the Z2 was one of the best out there at the time of its release.
Unfortunately thus far the photos I've got from the Z2 seems pretty low quality with lots of noise and lack of detail. I've tried using manual mode and setting the ISO to 50 or 100 but the quality is still bad. Not really any different to my old cheap o Vodafone own branded phone. And the front facing camera is absolutely dreadful!
I've looked around for a solution but not found anything conclusive.
Does anyone have any advice on a way to improve the picture quality? Any particular ROMs or apps I should use. In currently on stock 6.0.1. I've read that some peoplefound that picture quality had degraded with each OS update from KK.
Many thanks
tooplanx said:
Hello all,
I just bought a Z2 (second hand) as I wanted a phone with a high quality camera and apparently the Z2 was one of the best out there at the time of its release.
Unfortunately thus far the photos I've got from the Z2 seems pretty low quality with lots of noise and lack of detail. I've tried using manual mode and setting the ISO to 50 or 100 but the quality is still bad. Not really any different to my old cheap o Vodafone own branded phone. And the front facing camera is absolutely dreadful!
I've looked around for a solution but not found anything conclusive.
Does anyone have any advice on a way to improve the picture quality? Any particular ROMs or apps I should use. In currently on stock 6.0.1. I've read that some peoplefound that picture quality had degraded with each OS update from KK.
Many thanks
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It's actually false, it has been the same way from KK,LP & MM
I tried flashing the Cyberian Mod and I've seen some slight improvements
I also bought a second hand z2. the camera was awful at first just as you described but then I saw a thread somewhere here on xda that suggests scratching off the thin coating on the lens of the z2. I scratched mine with a card and now it works great.
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It's actually false, it has been the same way from KK,LP & MM
I tried flashing the Cyberian Mod and I've seen some slight improvements
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I don't understand the Z2 has such good reviews of the camera. I have seen some pretty good photos that other people have taken on z2s though.
I've heard that unlocking the bootloader can effect the camera, though I'm not clear whether in a good or bad way.
tooplanx said:
I don't understand the Z2 has such good reviews of the camera. I have seen some pretty good photos that other people have taken on z2s though.
I've heard that unlocking the bootloader can effect the camera, though I'm not clear whether in a good or bad way.
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Ofcourse in a bad way, because sony removes the BIONZ processing and some other features if you unlock your bootloader
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Some sample images...
I have just transferred some of my photos from the xperia z2 on to my PC to have a closer look, and I'm even more shocked by the awful quality. It looks like a budget phone from 2012!
I took a few sample shots using the 'Superior' Auto mode, then using the Open Camera App, then one on my old cheap-o Vodafone Smart Prime 6 so that I could compare.
Look at the attachments, they are in the order mentioned above, all at 8MP.
1. Superior Auto produces a dreadful contrasty, high-noise, low-detail image.
2. Open Camera does a better job, slightly more detail. I was unable to set the ISO in the app for some reason.
3. Old Vodafone Smart Prime 6 has perhaps slightly less sharp image, but overall is much less contrasty and produces a much nicer image, with natural looking detail.
WTF?! how is this top of the range Xperia producing images worse than a low end phone?!
Any help greatly appreciated.
tooplanx said:
I have just transferred some of my photos from the xperia z2 on to my PC to have a closer look, and I'm even more shocked by the awful quality. It looks like a budget phone from 2012!
I took a few sample shots using the 'Superior' Auto mode, then using the Open Camera App, then one on my old cheap-o Vodafone Smart Prime 6 so that I could compare.
Look at the attachments, they are in the order mentioned above, all at 8MP.
1. Superior Auto produces a dreadful contrasty, high-noise, low-detail image.
2. Open Camera does a better job, slightly more detail. I was unable to set the ISO in the app for some reason.
3. Old Vodafone Smart Prime 6 has perhaps slightly less sharp image, but overall is much less contrasty and produces a much nicer image, with natural looking detail.
WTF?! how is this top of the range Xperia producing images worse than a low end phone?!
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Strange , i often do photos with my z2, and i have a more natural image than others. Ok in auto sometimes they are more overexposed(but very less with marshmallow). But use manual, -0.3 or -0.7 ev,esposure misuraction multiple and touch autofocus. Better than auto mode. If you mod your z2, use cyberian mod and the quality improve a lot. The version with worse camera is kitkat...orrible quality with auto mode. Then with lollipop and marshmallow,improve a lot the camera.
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Strange , i often do photos with my z2, and i have a more natural image than others. Ok in auto sometimes they are more overexposed(but very less with marshmallow). But use manual, -0.3 or -0.7 ev,esposure misuraction multiple and touch autofocus. Better than auto mode. If you mod your z2, use cyberian mod and the quality improve a lot. The version with worse camera is kitkat...orrible quality with auto mode. Then with lollipop and marshmallow,improve a lot the camera.
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Hi, thanks for your response, I'm going to try and install Cyberian but first need to figure out how to root the phone and install a custom recovery. There doesn't seem to be any clear and sure-fire way...
I've looked through loads of threads and websites and they all seem to be out dated, incomplete, very vague or unstable.
Anyone know the easiest / safest method for MM .291?
Cheers!
tooplanx said:
Hi, thanks for your response, I'm going to try and install Cyberian but first need to figure out how to root the phone and install a custom recovery. There doesn't seem to be any clear and sure-fire way...
I've looked through loads of threads and websites and they all seem to be out dated, incomplete, very vague or unstable.
Anyone know the easiest / safest method for MM .291?
Cheers!
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On general thread there is the method https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/tool-rooting-23-5-1-291-supersu-t3437280
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On general thread there is the method https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/tool-rooting-23-5-1-291-supersu-t3437280
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Yeah, I've looked through that but the instructions are vague, files seem to be missing, and people have said they have had problems with it.
tooplanx said:
Yeah, I've looked through that but the instructions are vague, files seem to be missing, and people have said they have had problems with it.
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You must install flashtool and use some guides to flash 575 kernel. Then the guide is simple. I use often this guide ,but when i'm on recovery to flash 291 kernel and supesu, i don't flash them but a new rom. It's the best way
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You must install flashtool and use some guides to flash 575 kernel. Then the guide is simple. I use often this guide ,but when i'm on recovery to flash 291 kernel and supesu, i don't flash them but a new rom. It's the best way
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Where can I find the correct flashtool? Are we talking about a PC based flashtool or android based?
Thanks
tooplanx said:
Where can I find the correct flashtool? Are we talking about a PC based flashtool or android based?
Thanks
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PC, there is a guide to install marshmallow to z5 but the first part of guide, explain how to install correctly flashtool http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/03/12/install-xperia-marshmallow-using-flashtool-and-xperifirm-guide/
Soooo.... rooted and installed Cyberian... camera is still god awful!
Is there a known issue with the z2? It seems that half of owners think the camera is brilliant and half think it's rubbish. I've seen evidence that would point towards there being a quality control issue at Sony, with a large quantity of faulty handsets being sold? (See this post, amongst others)
My back camera is definitely sub-par, performing worse than a low-end phone, and as for the front camera.... well, it looks like a blown up 0.2mp image.
Some more examples attached. They alternate rear camera, front camera.
I'm surprised Sony hasn't faced a large lawsuit around this issue.
tooplanx said:
Soooo.... rooted and installed Cyberian... camera is still god awful!
Is there a known issue with the z2? It seems that half of owners think the camera is brilliant and half think it's rubbish. I've seen evidence that would point towards there being a quality control issue at Sony, with a large quantity of faulty handsets being sold? (See this post, amongst others)
My back camera is definitely sub-par, performing worse than a low-end phone, and as for the front camera.... well, it looks like a blown up 0.2mp image.
Some more examples attached. They alternate rear camera, front camera.
I'm surprised Sony hasn't faced a large lawsuit around this issue.
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First: use 4:3 resolution instead 16:9. 4:3 is the resolution of sensor. 16:9 pictures are worse. There is a 12 mp resolution in cyberian Who improve a lot pictures. Why did you don't try it? if this persist, control that sensor have the lens antireflex corrupted. This is second hand z2. So this is possible
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First: use 4:3 resolution instead 16:9. 4:3 is the resolution of sensor. 16:9 pictures are worse. There is a 12 mp resolution in cyberian Who improve a lot pictures. Why did you don't try it? if this persist, control that sensor have the lens antireflex corrupted. This is second hand z2. So this is possible
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I've tried all modes and they all produce pretty poor photos. These are actually taken using Open Camera which gives a significant improvement in pic quality over the stock app.
Hello, my one makes even worse photos than yours, i have the cam glass scratched, is it the problem?
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I've tried all modes and they all produce pretty poor photos. These are actually taken using Open Camera which gives a significant improvement in pic quality over the stock app.
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See the lens if they are damged
Checked closely both back and front lenses for damage but they both look fine. The phone in general is in a 'like new' condition.
any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
Have you checked GCam Port Hub?
IDK why you bother looking for another camera while your phone's is already very great IMO.
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any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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thx
Masterblop said:
The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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Thank you very much bro
Which one are you guys using?
New updated version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl53/
Tried and working version: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1s_MGC.apk
Hello,
Is there any option to made the photo sphere working? Honestly I only try to have Gcam for this mode hehe.
Thank you for the apk
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode. It's not easy, but auto it's not good. For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
I know it's a smartphone and not a mirrorless or a Reflex but it's something like buying a 5000 euro camera body to use it with automatic settings.
Also form the photo you posted i see that the wood construction in the xperia auto mode is darker...but...the tree foliage on the top left clearly show more detail in the middle photo. The Gcam settings appear to have too much sharpness and grain.
Probably the middle photo with a little more exposure time or a little more iso will be the best one of the three.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode.
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I won't argue this with you; I've seen some great results in reviews from people using the camera in Manual mode. I'm sure it's possible to obtain superior results if you have the time to compose your shot and find the perfect settings.
The thing is though, for most of the photos I would want to take with a smartphone camera, I don't have time to find optimal settings manually. When I do have that time, I think the ability to make those manual adjustments is awesome (and should be in more smartphones), but most of the time I don't. That means that the Auto/Basic modes are incredibly important, because it's how I'll end up taking most photos in real life. Maybe that means that this phone is not marketed to me, and if that's the case, that's fine. But manual settings are pretty much outside the scope of discussion for this thread - what I wanted was a comparison of essentially default settings between my current phone and this phone.
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For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
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In my testing, I actually found that Basic mode usually takes worse photos than Auto mode. In particular, Basic mode seems to have a big problem with overexposure. I assume because HDR/DRO is not being used?
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
(I had to scale down this comparison for posting)
Also, all modes on this phone do not capture detail as well as my current 3 year old phone. If you blow up the details, clearly the reference photo on the left has by far the best preservation:
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
This holds for every test photo I took - the detail is worse from the Xperia. I don't think manual mode tweaks will fix this - it seems like the sensor and software just don't capture as much detail.
But then again, I am not a professional photographer, so I'm not completely sure. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
All in all, I was really disappointed with these results since I wanted to love this phone!
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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In this case for me Sony photo pro>Xiaomi>Sony GCam. Probably we have different opinions or eyes hehe
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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It's the new MHz race on x86 CPU when Pentium 4 were a thing
My race started with Hz
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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An owner of this particular phone with close to insanity price tag is supposed to be obsessed with camera quality. Just because this is the main selling point of it - Zeiss, Sony Alpha team etc. Unfortunaly I'm less than impressed too . Other flaws like average battery life, no face unlock, low screen brightness at daylight etc etc don't help to love this phone either....