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I've got my M2000, and the "ooooooh" factor is starting to wear off - I need toys, dammit!
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Seriously - I'm looking at a USB charger - anybody got any thoughts as to the best-value one in the UK? Also screen protectors? Any good? Or more hassle than they're worth?
Finally - is there a decent case that will allow me to carry the spare battery? Even just a case *for* the spare battery to stop it shorting out in my laptop bag would be nice - as it is, it's useless, as it's sod all use at home, and I can't really take it with me, short of shoving it into a freezer bag. Classy.
Can't help you much there. I definitely don't have too many extras.
When I got my Qtek 1010 (XDA), I couldn't get a fold-up keyboard fast enough. Unfortunately, the keyboard was more of a disappointment than anything else (some of the buttons, especially the space-bar, have to be pressed _just_ a little harder to be recognised).
Now, with my i-mate (XDA II), the only extras I have indugled in (although I still carry the keyboard with me) is a 512MB SD Card (which is also not so great, cause it's an AGFA, and it's SLOOOOOOW).
How about getting yourself a GPS kit?
For USB Sycn and Charge cables you can beat these :
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=115610&asource=116684
I have had these PPC Techs canples for a numnber of devices and they are very cool.
I can also recoomend this to go with it :
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EXP_USB-CLA
Its a dongle to go in your car cigarette lighter that has a powered USB port in the top so you can run/charge anyt5hing that can take power via USB.
The two items above are a real go anywhere kit
If you want sometning with real wow factor, how about a laser projected virtual keyboard ?!
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=110909
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http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=115610&asource=116684
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=EXP_USB-CLA
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Are you looking in my shopping basket? They were the ones I'd added before I asked... I was hoping for somebody with some experiences of the extending charge cable - it could have been a very useful device or uselessly overcomplicated and fragile.
As for that laser keyboard... :shock:
eXpansys rock.
They are so good at this kind of thing.
I recently bought a bluetooth headset from them which turned out not to be very robust. The ease with whcih I was able to send it back and get a full refund (including carriage costs) was excellent.
The most amazing thing about that laser keyboard is that it's £20 cheaper than the foldup one.
And don't forget Satellite Navigation. That is the 'Must Have'!
Install MS Voice Command software, pretty cool you can then control whole device by Voice without any training!
And a 2.5mm to 3.5mm Stereo adaptor from Expansys will let you plug in some "Proper" headphones (I use Sony MDR-EX71SL's) you've then got an IPOD butt kicking MP3/WMA player.
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Install MS Voice Command software, pretty cool you can then control whole device by Voice without any training!
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I've installed Fonix, and it does indeed seem good. If only I could initiate a call from my bluetooth headset...
And a 2.5mm to 3.5mm Stereo adaptor from Expansys will let you plug in some "Proper" headphones (I use Sony MDR-EX71SL's) you've then got an IPOD butt kicking MP3/WMA player.
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Umm, iPod butt-kicking? I've not found any 40Gb SD cards yet, and the battery life is mediocre enough without having it playing MP3s all day every day...
GPS - It's a thought. What's the good SatNav software to go for? TomTom still?
I just bought a Parot CK3300 BT hands free kit with built in GPS receiver.
Should get it on Tuesday.
Was referring to the Audio Quality on IPOD's not storage space.
Bitrate for Bitrate the IPOD media format is not a patch on WMA
TomTom3 Navigator has never got me lost yet?
only downside is the iffy address entry method but this can be rectified with a UK postcode add-on.
Checkpoint "Safety" Camera POI works a treat as well
http://www.blueant.com.au/bthp_i.htm
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If you want sometning with real wow factor, how about a laser projected virtual keyboard ?!
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=110909
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DAMMIT!!!!!! I thought of that 3 years ago!!!! They stole my idea!! Anyway, What about bluetooth mice or sdio camera. There's also external batteries that charge the pda, check out mobileplanet. Asus put out a wifi laptop hard drive enclosure, add a hard drive, and hook it up to the external battery, and you've got yourself up to 40 gigs of external storage. (I haven't checked to see if it'll work yet or not, but I don't see why not) And of course there's always gps.
And speaking of far fetched accessories, anyone wanna help me write a usb hub driver for the ppc so I can hook up my digital camera and nomad jukebox3, and use the jukebox 3 as storage for my digital pictures.
Once we get the hub working, there's no end to the usb accessories we can get.
BTW I also saw sdio video cards to do powerpoint presentations while on the road, and video capture cards.
Last but not least on my shopping list is the bluetooth cassette adapter. It's a cassette tape looking bluetooth hq audio adapter, for home or vehicle use.
I also remember something about an fm transmitter, I think it's an fm transmitter, so you can listen to your mp3 through your radio. There also has to be someone who makes a tv receiver, and a radio receiver for these things, there just has to be.
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Install MS Voice Command software, pretty cool you can then control whole device by Voice without any training!
And a 2.5mm to 3.5mm Stereo adaptor from Expansys will let you plug in some "Proper" headphones (I use Sony MDR-EX71SL's) you've then got an IPOD butt kicking MP3/WMA player.
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I want some proper headphones too, however if it means trying to swap them with the headset when a call comes in... no good. Any suggestions on a better headset/earphone combo?
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http://www.blueant.com.au/bthp_i.htm
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Bluetooth stereo.. very sceptical.
- Can I stream audio from a mobile phone or pda using Bluetooth?
The Audio Player can be used to receive streamed audio if the mobile phone supports A2DP (advanced audio distribution profile). Some phone can stream audio to the headphones in mono.
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From the website
Has anyone actually tried this with the Blue Angel? Does it work properly, Ie taking calls, playing music.
Seems like the Blueant is a re-labelled Sonorix
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/5177.htm
I know someone was going to beat me putting the nookcolor as a car stereo if I didn't hurry to do it but much respect for the guy that did this first . I worked on my Nookcolor, installing it as a car stereo this weekend on my 2004 Gmc envoy and still modifying my dash to make it blend in. Running Nookie Froyo.Now to work on developing a car stereo app will be great with build in FM radio and visualizer and equalizer. I'm barely learning how to develop apps reading some books on android app development and Java to make my app come to life but I do not have a lot of time, with school and work one tends to get a bit frustrated and tired. I'm hoping some one can help me out with my idea of an app if its not yet on the works. I was inspired byAndroid and everyone here in the XDA community to try and make some great ideas come to life. Android 100% right here
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First video preview of set up running Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 sorry i recorded this at night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHQphUtmYs
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Until an actual interface adapter is made to bypass sound and volume control from the vehicle wiring to just a plain rca cable with 3.5mm Jack, I intend to use my tab as is. I will come up with new ideas tho.
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Rom: NookieFroyo 0.6.8(reverted to NookieFroyo for livewallpaper and video support since PhiremodCM7 does not have it yet)
Apps:
Pandora Radio
mVideoPlayer(im having issues with this app, sometimes video shows normally then next time video gets slow)
Button Savior(I replaced Softkeys with ButtonSavior)
Media Volume Bar Widget
WidgetLocker Lockscreen
ADWLauncher EX
Beautiful Widgets
Gauge Battery Widget
MortPlayer
PowerAMP
museek
StayAwake
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Test in dash v2.1(overclocked)
Still same as v2 just added a couple more apps to make feel a bit more like indash stereo.
Apps Added:
Stayawake(this works great so far on phiremodCM7 plug in USB cable and screen stays on, very stereo like feeling, better yet it dims out to save battery but still stays awake)
Last FM(working so far)
ADW Ex launcher
Miren browser(Browser of Choice)
Apps removed:
TuneIn radio(The app started giving me trouble and forcing close, worked for a while tho.)
Apps not working so far:
YouTube or flash( Flash and video playback does not work as stated before but I'm pretty sure it will soon. I tried watching transformers 2 to see how it looked and did not work on phiremod CM7 yet.)
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Test in dash v2
Changed Nook Rom to:
Phiremod CM7 (looks great very responsive, hotspot data connectivity way faster with my HTC EVO on 3g not on 4g. Will test on 4g to see how much faster it connects but no youtube)
Apps Using and still testing:
TuneIn Radio for local stations(since no bluetooth)
PowerAmp (using this app because has build in EQ and song can be change with finger swipe)
Pandora(running 100%)
MortPlayer (still sounds good but prefer PowerAmp because of the look and EQ ) "DSP Manger still doesnt work"
I still need to add volume and mute widgets.
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Test in dash v1
Nookie Froyo 6.7 (Did not test 6.8 yet)
Using PowerAmp app as main choice for stereo. It includes EQ settings.
MortPlayer Installed
Pandora Installed, works great if connected to phone hotspot.
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Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compatibility.
YouTube video compatibility.
Bluetooth compatibility if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compatibility to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
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I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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FM radio might be a dead end for you, I'm pretty sure hardware investigations revealed that the FM chip isn't equipped with a antenna or wired to the headphones for use as an antenna. Perhaps once bluetooth is working you could pair it with some sort of bluetooth radio?
Looks nice though, have you thought of applying a black theme to make look even more smooth with your car?
It sucks no FM. I'm hoping someone does get Bluetooth working FM and navigation would work with that, it would be great. A black theme would look nice, I'm still exploring a lot of things with the nook like cm7 and honeycomb see how everything would work with that. I did this as a prototype I say. Later on I might change the nookcolor for something else but same size. I still want to develop an app for car stereo and such for any tab. I know it wount be easy but nothing is impossible specially here in XDA
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Syco54645 said:
I tend to like doubletwist. May want to give that a try. I know it isn't exactly what you are looking for.
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Its not that hard to do you just need time. Took me a whole Saturday to do this and I'm not done yet. Lol but seems to work and sounds great. I'm always open to suggestions and better ideas.
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Apps that I'm trying to develop.
IndashStereo App.
With Navigation compability.
YouTube video compability.
Bluetooth compability if tab comes with it. Probably all tabs will for now on.
Facebook and tweeter song share buttons.
Meaby traffic updates.
IndashStereo Remote
This is another app I want to develop which I will need Bluetooth.
Should have Bluetooth compability to connect your Android Phone to connect to Indash Stereo app on the tab so you can share music and use the phone as remote control for app.
Suggestions and opinions are welcome.
SuperHTCEvo
I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I'm happy to see this thread, thanks for taking the time to share your work, JCAndroid.
I had a carpc for a few years; after getting fed up with FluxMedia's treatment of the hobbyist community as well as some issues due to outdated hardware, I returned to the stock radio when I got my Droid. The Droid provided most of the functionality of the carpc, however, I do occasionally miss having a carpc though, and I have thought about using the NC in the same manner.
The main drawback for me at this time is lack of navigation. If Bluetooth was usable, then this would obviously be a moot point as the navigation could be achieved using BT GPS.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing your progress and thanks again the thread.
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I was looking at carpc's also but found it to complecated to do at least for me but it works. When I saw Android tabs were available I saw the chance to do this. I had wanted to this with a galaxy tab but to pricey, but I found my self with the NookColor and once there was a way to rooted I came up with something ofcourse I know other people have put tabs as indash stereos its much easier to use than carpc but would be better with an actual car stereo app. If Bluetooth would work on the Nook we would have more useable stuff I hope someone gets it to work. I'm just trying to come up with something new. Right now I use my Evo 4G as my navigation device. But thanks for the support motivation helps a lot.
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looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
any update on this?
as of right now, w/out using phone wifi hotspot - i don't see any purpose to this.
it has no line-in for using a media player with more storage.
once it's installed better, you won't have much access to swap out the microsd for updating your music.
there are no applications that compare to anything that a carpc can do.
i would much rather a standard in dash cd player then leave my nook in the car.
i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
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i'm having a hard time understanding the point of this... if you have a phone that can do wifi hotspot, then your phone can run pandora and plug into the line in of a standard stereo... and probably sound a whole lot better...
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Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
rudygetz said:
Don't over think it, it's just cool. A lot of cars nowadays come with a similar sized touch screen that runs the stereo. This is a great idea to do just because we can. Thumbs up to you sir.
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sorry didn't mean to be a downer. Just a crappy day at work and my bad mood is coming up, instead of being supportive.
Let's see what you can make happen with this!
Update Peeps!
Yea you can use a carpc and it can be better but it is just something new to try. You can use your phone but sound has no difference believe me I did a number of test and if your worried about leaving it in the car at night there is no problem it gets pitch dark you can even see it but the point is that you want something portable and cool, that is why i did this mod.
I updated to to Phiremod CM7 and let me tell you hotspot connectivity is way faster but youtube doesnt work. So far so good. Still testing it.
Since. No! Bluetooth im using TuneIn Radio App and works nice on Phiremod CM7 with my HTC Evo hotspot on 3G Not on 4G so it can be much faster but will try.
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looks cool, might be funny to watch my subs shake the nook to death lol
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Lol my does not shake. I have two 12" Kickers with a 700w pioneer amp. It pounds but the Nook stays intact. Well at least with my dock.
Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
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Do you have any power management going on? I couldn't tell but I would imagine if you did some sort of modification to the power cord so it would be as flush as possible to the dash and ran it to a USB car charger, you could theoretically make it so all you had to do was slide the Nook in from right to left, thereby connecting it to the charger as it is secured.
I personally have begun to explore the possibilities of using it as a carpc myself. I'm planning a drive down to Florida from New York in April and I'm hoping to use it as a the Nav/Media hub (I have a GPS, Pioneer BT sound system with an amp, and there will be two Dincs in the car but still, you can't beat a 7" version of any of those). I''l either be mounting it in my Civic or my Altima, depending on which we decide to use. The Civic as much better DIY mounting possibilities, and I've already drawn up some ideas. The only thing I'm waiting for is the BT
EDIT: For comparision, here is the link that shows the inside of my Civic, and if you Google the interior to a 2007 Altima, you'll see how theres little to no possibilities for mounting without cutting into anything.
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O that's right I never mentioned what I did for power management. I use to have a Kenwood double din stereo with 6.5" screen but took that off. I had to cut and trim in order to put my dock were the stereo was. I used the nookcolor leather case and cur it, I was going to make a dock myself like the way the HTC Evo car dock is but I just wanted to try this like this first. Then I went and bought me a cheaper stereo. The stereo I put it in the passenger compartment box that's y you don't see it on the pics, it is hidden. I modified my compartment box also, I had to cut and trim the back of it to run cables out and to make space for a small computer fan for the the heat of the stereo to be exhausted out. When I dock my Nook I just plug my 3.5mm headphone Jack and USB charger. I'm still trying to modify the connector of the USB charger, I don't like the cable just hanging there. But works great so far.
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Since DSP manegers EQ does not work I'm going to try and see if the new LifeVibes app works later on.
SuperHTCEvo
what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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what are you using to hold the nook in place around the edges?
i'm thinking of making my own 'case' and just contemplating different types of ways to hold my nook in place.
btw: from one fellow hardware modder to another - very awesome work.
pointless or not somethings are just to cool to not try.
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Thanks for the complement.
Before I did the mod I went looking on eBay for case holders but none of them looked as durable as the original NookColor leather case holder, so I bought the the leather case holder for the NookColor it was pricey but I took a chance and used it to incorporate it to my dash. What I did was cut the holder and just use that as the mount dock. So far it has been working really good throughout bumbs and speedhumps it stays intact in its mount holder. I'm still thinking of changing it tho to a better looking angle or adding angle adjustments.
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I imagine if done well such a mod would be an excellent complement to any dash while garnering many compliments from passengers (even would be thieves).
I have a kindle fire and am considering a nook tablet, but I'm wondering does the speaker in the NT really sound as bad as people are saying? How is it compared to an iPod touch?
I don't have an iPod, but I have no complaints about it.
I've got all three of these in my home. Fire best, iPOD next, Tablet sucks
Thanks, i'm prob going to wait for the Asus mimo then. Although the Asus transformer speakers really sucked too.
No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
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No, I don't think the speaker is that bad. I think the internal settings/controls on the stock tablet are what disappoint a lot of people. I wasn't happy either until I installed the Volume+ app. I don't have any complaints since.
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Ditto. The volume is just way to low on the nt.
That being said, I tried the volume + app and didn't see a difference. Maybe I just don't know how to use the app though. What settings are you using on this app to get more volume? All it seemed to let me do is control the volume for alarm, ringer, notification, etc.
I really find that to be an interesting position to take on whether or not you will buy the Nook tablet - not that I really care either way if you buy one or not as I am certainly not B&N employee or anything.
I own an iPad, a NT, and have owned an iTouch in the past. Frankly, I wouldn't want to listen to any of these devices through their internal speaker. They are all very small and can only provide a miniature tin can version of sound.
However, I will say that any of these sound great with headphones and can easily be improved with decent set of portable speakers plugged in.
Just my two cents on the subject...
Well, i was going to let my dad watch movies on it, he's 84 years old, he won't use headphones.
I got the kindle fire, and really liked it but the space is so too limited so i'm returning it.
I was going to get the NT, but the speaker sucks, and personally i don't like the larger form factor for a 7" tablet.
I would get the galaxy 7" but it's too expensive.
Guess i'll have to wait. Thanks for the input everyone.
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
424aca said:
all you guys have to remember that this was meant for
READING (but who wants to do that)
not modding the crap out of it.
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Lol, wrong place to tell people not to mod it buddy, were in the android development forum
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The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
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The on-board speaker for every device I've ever tried out is crap for watching anything. I suspect my father (65) would just toss it in a drawer and it wouldn't be heard from again until one of my nieces steals it.
That complaint aside, have you considered getting whichever tablet you think will actually be the easiest for him to operate and just getting him a set of those plug-in speakers which just mount on top (or the side depending on how you're holding it)?
Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Macally-Porta...96/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1330738941&sr=8-66
If he's going to be seated in the same place while watching a regular set of computer speaker may be preferable.
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Hmm interesting find, has anyone used it?. Another alternative is to get yourself an Aux cable so you can plug your NT to most of all music player, i have that setup in my car .
~ Veronica
They're pretty easy to find in my area. They're not great, I'm sure, but at least they point in the right direction!
Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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Get the volume + app if you're running cm7 or rooted. Its really great. Can't believe I lived without it for so long.
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I have CM7 and tried Volume+ but didn't notice any difference. Not sure it installed right though because it kept asking me to "agree" to the license agreement every time I started the app. Are there any tricks to the install?
The speaker (one) in the nook tablet is very poor, low in level, and monaural. A cable into a stereo aux-in for car or whatever is a big, loud, stereo solution for almost no money. Streaming output audio over wifi to clients on the net will keep you wireless, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23135348 post is looking to port MPD (music player daemon) to android, and there are no doubt others.
SpeakerBoost
I happened upon an app in the Amazon market called SpeakerBoost. I also found it on Google Play. This app actually works, and it is FREE.
It allows you to adjust the maximum volume output for any android device. I loaded it on both my Nook Tablet, and my OneV. The difference is like night and day. I was able to watch a movie on my Nook without having any external speaker plugged in. IMHO, that is one big plus. I don't have to carry around an extra speaker when I travel anymore. :victory: And if I choose to attach the external speaker, it is Much Louder than before.
I'd say that this app is a real find.
Since they don't have this app in the Nook app store, you will have to root your device in order to even get this app.
This is a recurring problem i keep having across android phones and I'm trying to find some kind of solution ....
Ive got a few different car stereos, they all allow usb mass storage mounting to directly read/play songs from the phone.
They all require the same basic things: they expect to see a fat32 partition, they load the first and only the first partition that they can see, and they load every "media" file in the drive, including the nav turn by turn cache, etc.
Im hoping someone can write a program similar to "multi mount sd card" that basically allows you to choose a particular folder where you know all of your music, and only your music, is stored, and present that single folder to the car stereo as a good old fashioned mass storage device with a fat32 partition. Theoretically, id hope to leave the rest of the storage access able to the other programs on the phone, the only thing that would be affected maybe is the music player....which i wouldn't be using. I have different kinds of problems with getting this to work across different phones, an app like this could fix them all at once.
Ive got a lot of different tech experience e but im not a dev by any stretch. Ive tried a lot and my current issue is card order, stereo is seeing the internal card but my music is on external and it refuses to look past the first partition.
Anyone got any ideas? Ive got a razr (vzw) on the 215 leak.
Just wondering, I have a few decks in my cars and trucks also... Why do you plug your phone into the deck? I just recently got a Pioneer deh-6400bt for 149$ that allows me to seamlessly use Bluetooth to play music and also to talk with for hands free since its technically illegal to talk on the phone in Oregon....gr... anyways, And another point almost all decks that I have used, kenwood, alpine, pioneer, don't push enough power through the USB to make it worth your while to plug your phone in while using it. And all of those decks that had USB input also had a AUX input in the front.
he probably wants to use the deck to control the music, which can't be done with the aux cable
That is true... Have to tell you though.. BT is the shizzz though.. get in your rig and start it up... connects to phone and continues streaming where it left off and having the hands free is awesome
1. I actually have the pioneer deh-p6200bt in one of my cars - and it doesn't stream bluetooth audio, only phone functions. My other vehicle has a deck which can stream BT audio, and it's great for some things, like pandora, but with my internal music collection the audio quality is just not up to par, it's an obvious weak link.
2. The USB port charges at standard USB rates. It isn't a quick charge but it's certainly enough to make things worthwhile. I've found that on extended, 6-10 hour drives, running pandora, wifi tether, nav, torque and leaving the screen on constantly, yes, it can discharge to the point where it shuts off. I was running this configuration while driving for a touring band once. More often, however, I'm not using everything at once, and i turn the screen off just because I don't always need it. It seems that I can run pandora, nav, torque, and have the phone still actually charge, it was serving wifi tether to the rest of the van that caused the phone to go over the edge and actually pull more power than it wAas getting in. Moreover, the bigger problem I wind up having is that phones will actually stop charging themselves from overheating (sun heat through windshield, and/or just to much load on the phones systems at once), at which point the amperage is irrelevant. In fact this may have been the ONLY problem I was having, while driving I couldn't pay enough attention to the phone to figure out much other than "oh hell it shut off cause its cooking itself".
3. Yes, I want control over tracks from front of deck, and USB is THE most complete way to do that, especially in the one car I have where i have steering wheel controls. I can search for specific tracks from the wheel, as well as call up any phone functions, which is more than the BT side would be able to do - in BT audio mode my systems seem to only be able to start/pause and track forward/reverse. Having hardware buttons that handle both phone and music leaves the screen of the device free for torque or maps.
4. On the audio quality note, if you're playing digital files stored on the device, nothing beats using the stereo to play them via USB, because the deck itself is the actual computer doing the conversion and the D/A converters in the deck should theoretically be nicer than anything in a cell phone. Its the cleanest path one could have.
For things like pandora, this isn't always possible, and in that case the next best option would be a toss up between BT and the 3.5mm jack, based on your ears which is cleaner. in absolutely ideal scenarios, where BT on the deck supports the more recent high quality a2dp codecs, BT can sound as good or better than the cable. A2DP audio isn't exactly this clear cut though, as the blanket of A2DP doesn't specify which codecs are supported, and the better ones are a more recent thing. I'll say that the cell phones have been good about this, it's more that the decks themselves don't always have the newer codecs. And in addition to that, there's still the matter of settings within either device, such at bitpool on the phone, that can have an effect on the sound. Unfortunately, my setup is such that only one deck I have does actual BT streaming, and while nice for some things definitely doesn't sound as good as when it is cabled or using USB directly.
The cable has the disadvantage of running through multiple conversions - the phone goes from D to A through it's own, lower quality converter, the stereo gets that signal as A, changes it to D in order to apply EQ/etc, then back to A as it goes down to the amps. It's generally unnecessary to do something like this if one can avoid it.
There is a third option, but this is very rare and just sort of coming to market - if you happen to have an in car video system with an HDMI input, it will send the streaming audio info as a pure digital signal and as with USB the radios D/A converters will be the units making the actual sound and thus being just as clean. An example of a unit like this is the Pioneer SPh-da100 (I could be wrong on model number), AKA the "appradio2". These are rare, and the least expensive version of this I've found is around 300-350 bucks. One thing I don't like about the appradio is that it seems to have only 2 sets of preamp outs....other than that, it looks like an amazing solution for at least one of my problems!
Basically.... sorry about the confused ramblings. I'm still trying to figure this out. The funny thing is - the phone presents the two storages, internal and external, and both of my radios make the connection - however one radio, a Dual unit, actually sees the external partition first and works fine, while the pioneer radio actually sees the internal first and it gives me nothing! the third vehicle I have, I actually am just using the 3.5mm in for sheer simplicity, it's an old crappy car that has no use for such a nice setup and the moto car dock with the combo usb/audio cable is actually a perfect fit for it. For the other cars, the moto car dock actually sucks, because it won't pass USB data, but that's another issue for another thread. Most likely I'm gonna gut it's frame and insert a straight through USB data cable for it.......
But I still need some way to make the phone consistently present the right info, all the time, every time!
Bump......
Anyone? Theres got to be someone else out there as frustrated by this as I am.....
Well, you're not the only one. I've running a Kenwood deck, on my Razr prior to the ICS update, I got it to work every time, since then...it's like rolling a die and trying to get lucky 7. Something in the update must have disabled the order of recognition of partitions coming up. I was able to get it to work...*once*. I've read that leaving dev/debug mode on some devices cause enough of a timing delay to let the deck recognize the sdcard, but this didn't work for me. There's actually a kenwood app that's supposed to help with all this but of course for me it does nothing. You might want to try the debug mode thing - I've read for some people that worked. I just want a way to configure the phone to *only* mount the sdcard drive when setup as a usb mass storage device. I'm assuming this is the problem, the internal storage confusing the deck.
It's been very frustrating...
My V521 has been sitting around for almost a year. Lately I've been thinking of resurrecting it for some use. I have two ideas.
1. Mount in kitchen to use as a reference for recipes and Google assistant (voice recognition) to ask it to to convert units (ie oz to g)
or
2. I have two wyzecams stream rstp video. I could devote the tablet to constantly show the streams.
I think #1 should be fine. As for #2, I'm not sure it will be fast enough to stream video, even though it is pretty low bitrate, frame rate.
Anyone use it for either purpose?
i use a V521 for my SHIELD TV's ( have two 500gb versions ) they are great to transfer files wirelessly as they have a USB PORT, plus the IR blaster is a lifesaver when the kids lose the tv remote.
i also carry one in my car, as i can download or upload new music to my USB drive and plug it back into the car at will .
its not a powerhouse or such, but having the full sized USB port has helped me other times as well,
the internet leads me to believe , that its possible to upgrade the GPU driver, but i haven't had success yet.
there is an old MAGISK module , NITRO?> i think? that helps quite a bit with video playback, but its far from perfect.
if you keep your V521 in a case, its easy to swap out the stock battery for a massive one. only drawback, is the case becomes permeant, as the larger battery needs the rear cover trimmed. ( i use a leather type, and it is not noticeable. ( it cant be removed from this case either,, but that does not bother me. )
its also simple to fix the speaker, so the audio becomes front facing .
i have a bunch of these tablets, ( they can be picked up for 20-30 bucks, with easy to fix issues ) and sure its not new , or speedy,, it still has much use left. i know development has long ended , but like a classic car, it still brings a smile for its use. RIP LG....
mprudic0404 said:
i use a V521 for my SHIELD TV's ( have two 500gb versions ) they are great to transfer files wirelessly as they have a USB PORT, plus the IR blaster is a lifesaver when the kids lose the tv remote.
i also carry one in my car, as i can download or upload new music to my USB drive and plug it back into the car at will .
its not a powerhouse or such, but having the full sized USB port has helped me other times as well,
the internet leads me to believe , that its possible to upgrade the GPU driver, but i haven't had success yet.
there is an old MAGISK module , NITRO?> i think? that helps quite a bit with video playback, but its far from perfect.
if you keep your V521 in a case, its easy to swap out the stock battery for a massive one. only drawback, is the case becomes permeant, as the larger battery needs the rear cover trimmed. ( i use a leather type, and it is not noticeable. ( it cant be removed from this case either,, but that does not bother me. )
its also simple to fix the speaker, so the audio becomes front facing .
i have a bunch of these tablets, ( they can be picked up for 20-30 bucks, with easy to fix issues ) and sure its not new , or speedy,, it still has much use left. i know development has long ended , but like a classic car, it still brings a smile for its use. RIP LG....
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Is there any reason it stopped? I just picked one of these up. is there some blob issues with 8.0? I see most SD617 devices are stuck on nougat