Hi
I need to get a new phone asap after my Lenovo P780 bricked itself. I tried flashing it but it doesn't even turn on now and I haven't had new replies to my posts. Maybe I messed up as I'm a complete new to this.
Anyway this is the one I want to buy at geekbuying.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371732.html
My questions are
1. What payment method should I use that will give me the best protection against a missing or non-working phone? Credit card, Paypal or other? I bought the P780 on UK ebay.
For people in the UK, would I get protection under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act? I know it doesn't apply to ebay or aliexpress because the seller isn't paid directly but how about geekbuying?
2. This is the the international Kate version which gets OTA updates. Goldway on aliexpress has the Kenzo version with global rom and OTA updates. If I don't use 4G, should I get the Kenzo or Kate version? I'm thinking Kenzo as existing cases and screen protectors will fit it and it has more roms available (if I dare to try that again).
Thanks
JB
JB147 said:
Hi
I need to get a new phone asap after my Lenovo P780 bricked itself. I tried flashing it but it doesn't even turn on now and I haven't had new replies to my posts. Maybe I messed up as I'm a complete new to this.
Anyway this is the one I want to buy at geekbuying.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371732.html
My questions are
1. What payment method should I use that will give me the best protection against a missing or non-working phone? Credit card, Paypal or other? I bought the P780 on UK ebay.
For people in the UK, would I get protection under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act? I know it doesn't apply to ebay or aliexpress because the seller isn't paid directly but how about geekbuying?
2. This is the the international Kate version which gets OTA updates. Goldway on aliexpress has the Kenzo version with global rom and OTA updates. If I don't use 4G, should I get the Kenzo or Kate version? I'm thinking Kenzo as existing cases and screen protectors will fit it and it has more roms available (if I dare to try that again).
Thanks
JB
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Use PayPal for everything is my advice. Though I am not in the UK it's highly unlikely you'll be protected under anything given the phone is coming from China with a limited reseller warranty. Though Geekbuying are pretty good. PayPal is your best protection because no vendor wants to mess up their standing with them.
Depending on your carrier the only advantage to Kate is Band 20 for 4G. My UK Tmobile and 3UK 3G are plenty fast anyway and the RN3P covers their 4G bands too.
Twotems said:
Use PayPal for everything is my advice. Though I am not in the UK it's highly unlikely you'll be protected under anything given the phone is coming from China with a limited reseller warranty. Though Geekbuying are pretty good. PayPal is your best protection because no vendor wants to mess up their standing with them.
Depending on your carrier the only advantage to Kate is Band 20 for 4G. My UK Tmobile and 3UK 3G are plenty fast anyway and the RN3P covers their 4G bands too.
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So I'm looking at the Kenzo at aliexpress but it doesn't list Paypal as a payment method? What's the best method to use or should I find another site that takes Paypal?
Where are you based?
If you are based in UK then use ebay. The price difference on ebay and aliexpress should be minimal. But ebay gives you extended protection and will refund you if you dont receive the phone or if its faulty.
Having said that, if you buy from any other site by using paypal then you are also protected under paypal's own protection. I dont know its details but you can look it up.
Section 75 of the consumer act is completely different and it wont help you in your case.
You mentioned Geekbuying and they're reliable so go with them. PayPal and ebay are essentially the same company so you're protected by both.
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You mentioned Geekbuying and they're reliable so go with them. PayPal and ebay are essentially the same company so you're protected by both.
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Ok, will go with geekbuying and Paypal. I messaged them if the included case and screen protector fits the Kate model, they said yes and if it turns out they don't, I can always buy them later.
Had a look on ebay but not as cheap as the Chinese websites.
Thanks for the replies
Edit: I bought the Kate model for $188 with Paypal. I nearly paid in pounds which would've had a 3.7% conversion fee but used my fee free credit card. Didn't go with courier delivery, hopefully less chance of customs tax but also to see if I can survive with just my feature phone and laptop for 3-6 weeks!
Paypal is good because they can freeze their account with too many disputes and usually paypal will side with the buyer, though they will make you send the item back which can be costly since you need to use a fully tracked service tobshow delivered.
Aliexpress uses Escrow so the seller won't get paid until you comfirm you recivied or the timer runs out, when ordering from ali look for a seller with good feedback, and a good return policy like 'seller pays for return shipping', ali will almost always favor the seller in disputes, so keep proof and pictures of everything including unboxing, video too - worst case you can go through your cc
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I'm ready to buy new HTC HD2, but i have a questions.
How to recognize an original Htc Hd2. I afraid that i'll buy clone.
What i should know before i go to shop or make a transaction through intenet.
Help me, please.
Where are your buying from (eBay, CL, other)?
Through internet, you will always take chances. Watch for the vendor's reputation before you close the deal.
If you're going to shop in person, then I suggest you to take someone who's owned an HD2 with you to help you out.
i budgeted to pay more so i could buy from a large reputable seller so i could make sure i was not buying some dodgey grey import, first choice was amazon but they where out of stock at the tie so bought from play.com instead
sukru said:
Where are your buying from (eBay, CL, other)?
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I prefer eBay...i think. I'm living in uk. I heard that there are some differents beetwen htc unbranded, o2, vodafone, etc. is that true ? if yes which one will be the best to buy?
dexterslab said:
i budgeted to pay more so i could buy from a large reputable seller so i could make sure i was not buying some dodgey grey import
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I was thinking the same mate... it's the best way i think.
eBay is generally safe, as long as you use your common sense. There are some reputable sellers (bu sure to check their feedback, including the rare negatives they got), and eBay itself has a working claim resolution (although people recommend using PayPal's instead of eBay's - they're the same company but PayPal CS might be better).
Also make sure you read the conditions of the phones, included accessories, any defects if exists, and seller return policies. And one more thing: there are many HD2s sold as broken. They're clearly labeled so, just make sure you don't buy one.
(I personally bought mine last week from eBay, and it's very clean. Of course I had to pay slightly more).
However I don't know which version is the best for UK. I'm in US right now, and TMOUS version was the best for me. I think you cannot make use of 3G in Europe with this model because of radio chip differences, however it has more storage - 1GB, and I'm already a TMOUS customer. (Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).
I'm going to the Beijing area later this month. I'm thinking about picking up an Amazfit in a store. It should be easy enough to change it into English firmware or PACEify it.
Has anyone bought it in a store in China? I wonder which stores are selling it - any electronics store or just Xiaomi branded stores and what price to expect?
Don't know what price are at in China but I got mine online for $104 us dollars.
I'm Europe based, and in order to avoid VAT and admin. fees by importing from US or China-based online webshops I have to buy through Europe-based resellers - and then the price is something like >$200 according to my research. So it would just be easier (cheaper), when I am in China to buy one there if possible.
trez77 said:
I'm Europe based, and in order to avoid VAT and admin. fees by importing from US or China-based online webshops I have to buy through Europe-based resellers - and then the price is something like >$200 according to my research. So it would just be easier (cheaper), when I am in China to buy one there if possible.
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I'm based in europe and the price I paid was £82 from gearbest and also geekbuying (I bought 2 amazfits).
You don't pay any VAT or admin tools from either of those retailers if you just choose the standard delivery method,.
trez77 said:
I'm Europe based, and in order to avoid VAT and admin. fees by importing from US or China-based online webshops I have to buy through Europe-based resellers - and then the price is something like >$200 according to my research. So it would just be easier (cheaper), when I am in China to buy one there if possible.
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Where are you in europe?
I bought through gearbest, with "priority shipping to Germany" .
It comes at their price, no additional tax, it's €88,88 atm
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_687047.html
fzelle said:
Where are you in europe?
I bought through gearbest, with "priority shipping to Germany" .
It comes at their price, no additional tax, it's €88,88 atm
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_687047.html
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UK.
I'm in Denmark. So gearbest ship from within the EU? Maybe I'll look it up.
Though still traveling to China so if anyone have information about getting one of these out there let me know.
Check with some aliexpress seller (sort by number of orders) and ask them from what town they are. Maybe you will be near them, so you can make personal deal. Or just order from aliexpress and put the adress for delivery where you will be in that time. Easy as that
You can do same with Gearbest/geekbuyibg, etc.
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I'm in Denmark. So gearbest ship from within the EU? Maybe I'll look it up.
Though still traveling to China so if anyone have information about getting one of these out there let me know.
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Yes gearbest ship to the EU. Though recently I've had a better experience with geekbuying (their shipping was much faster)
I think buying online would actually end up being less hassle than buying in China, and I'm not convinced there would be a huge saving anyway. At least with buying online you have some protection and after sales support.
trez77 said:
I'm in Denmark. So gearbest ship from within the EU? Maybe I'll look it up.
Though still traveling to China so if anyone have information about getting one of these out there let me know.
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No they are not shipping from the EU, but they have found a way to avoid for you to pay taxes.
Probably won't last after brexit, as it is rumored that they ship via UK and then avoid taxes at all.
Just a short update. I ended up buying Amazfit Pace from the Xiaomi store in the shopping mall 'Modern Plaza' (https://goo.gl/maps/ETduKM7SLcw) in Beijing. Easily accessed by the subway.
The unit price was 799 Yuan. No problems by installing English firmware and updating to 1.3.4f.
I did look for it other places but couldn't find it anywhere. I found most resellers only had a few Xiaomi phones and sometimes more simpler fitness trackers.
I saw the f1 available very cheaply online (for example in eglobalcentral and techinthebasket) but they'll get delivered from china/Hong Kong. will they get warranty in uk? or does one need to buy from uk based seller for warranty?
Windoors said:
I saw the f1 available very cheaply online (for example in eglobalcentral and techinthebasket) but they'll get delivered from china/Hong Kong. will they get warranty in uk? or does one need to buy from uk based seller for warranty?
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Usually the issue is not where you buy from but are you buying from an authorised seller of Xiaomi?
I wasn't sure about this when I was buying my F1 so I played safe and bought mine from Amazon as they tend to be reliable to deal with if you have issues.
I also got mine through Amazon as I wanted peace of mind. I paid more but it is worth it considering what I'm getting for my money.
Pay with PayPal or Credit card it will give you extra cover.
Amazon is not worth it unless they have a deal on you end up paying way more due to they add vat/tax on it with bit extra which is 20%+ price hike so that is like £50+
Always look for official sellers when it comes to this type of thing. I was lucky in the fact that there's a brick-and-mortar Mi store close to where I am in the UK, and utilised their Valentine's offer when it was available (paid £309 for the 6gb 128gb version).
I bought mine from the official xiaomi store in AliExpress. There's some a little bit more expensive offeers which they say have a global warranty.
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mortmaru said:
Pay with PayPal or Credit card it will give you extra cover.
Amazon is not worth it unless they have a deal on you end up paying way more due to they add vat/tax on it with bit extra which is 20%+ price hike so that is like £50+
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Don't know about what country are you talking about, but Amazon in Germany doesn't do such BS. Often you can buy cheaper then in official stores and you get the same warranty, Including a 30 days return especially if you're an Amazon prime user. Never had issues with Amazon and I bought a lot of Tech due to being cheaper than in other online shops.
ekin_strops said:
Don't know about what country are you talking about, but Amazon in Germany doesn't do such BS. Often you can buy cheaper then in official stores and you get the same warranty, Including a 30 days return especially if you're an Amazon prime user. Never had issues with Amazon and I bought a lot of Tech due to being cheaper than in other online shops.
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False
I just looked at amazon germany again they are way more then the likes of eglobal and china prices why is that because of vat/tax they will claim just as i stated.
I put in an order for thr 9t with MiGlobalStore on Aliexpress.
And 4 days later, its not shipped and seller doesnt even read any of my messages LOL
Like, wow, is this normal? By normal, i meant, is this the standard on Aliexpress?
Should i have bought it from Gearbest?
I have purchased my Mi 9T 128GB, blue from Gearbest for 310€. The device has been already shipped. Have to wait 10-15 days for arrival. Will report then.
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So its been 6 days, there is no reply from Mi Global Store on Aliexpress (and its still not shipped). Evem after i habe requested to cancel the order and asked Aliexpress customer representative to inform the seller, nothing. LOL
I dont know whats going on and how this store can manage to be alive for this long. But so far the shopping exoereience has been the worst.
Patience, it will arrive don't worry. As i recall correctly when they give you the DHL (or whatever else - if you chose the DHL shipment) tracking number it only goes live once the package leaves china and starts either from the UK (EU orders) or what ever else warehouse in north America.
I'm now torn between either MI global store - Goldway or Xiaomi Mi store. Don't know if there is any difference at all, but all I know is that if you using those Grey market resellers, you can forget any kind of warranty - RMA cases whatsoever.
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Patience, it will arrive don't worry. As i recall correctly when they give you the DHL (or whatever else - if you chose the DHL shipment) tracking number it only goes live once the package leaves china and starts either from the UK (EU orders) or what ever else warehouse in north America.
I'm now torn between either MI global store - Goldway or Xiaomi Mi store. Don't know if there is any difference at all, but all I know is that if you using those Grey market resellers, you can forget any kind of warranty - RMA cases whatsoever.
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Well thats if they give you a DHL tracking number lol They did not give me any info nor respond to my messages lol
I woulf actually try GearBest, if they cancel my order as i requested.
I bought mine on Rakuten site, (Europe, France), from order to arrive in my hands i had wait 6days. 354eur i paid for 128GB, now we can find even for 310eur 128GB
The only thing that's bothering me on rakuten is, that i cannot see anywhere who the seller is. Either it is not writen anywhere or im blind....
Like this for example :
https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/off...9t-6go-128go-dual-sim-redmi-k20-debloque.html
I see, its a reseller from another site. eglobalcenter
you can see very well that seller is central-FR but it is from china. If you go here https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp/5849175/xiaomi-mi-9t?pid=3974212410 and scroll down you will find mishopFR 314,38eur
then GTMobe 314,39eur then Kirin 319,99eur,... all this are from europe. all they sell under rakuten site
never_msrp on eBay. Very fast shipping, no problems.
Around $400 for the 128Gb, I didn't realize there was sales tax.
Just for the input and in case anyone in Mexico is reading, I bought it from Doto (a local reseller), they offer warranty over 1 year so that's nice, and it cost me about 45 extra dollars, bit I think it's worth it, they ship it the next 2 days.
Cancel Aliexpress order, because you can get Xiaomi Mi 9T Global version from Gearbest for ~261 euros! Just use this coupon: GBMI9T500
Link to phone: Gearbest
slavke1976 said:
I bought mine on Rakuten site, (Europe, France), from order to arrive in my hands i had wait 6days. 354eur i paid for 128GB, now we can find even for 310eur 128GB
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Sadly rakuten doesnt ship to canada lol im already used to stores doing this lol
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never_msrp on eBay. Very fast shipping, no problems.
Around $400 for the 128Gb, I didn't realize there was sales tax.
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Yea...thats the other thing, 13% sales tax here lol
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you can see very well that seller is central-FR but it is from china. If you go here https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp/5849175/xiaomi-mi-9t?pid=3974212410 and scroll down you will find mishopFR 314,38eur
then GTMobe 314,39eur then Kirin 319,99eur,... all this are from Europe. all they sell under rakuten site
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Yep saw it a bit later (edited post). So I basically can order from allix in that case.
meskafonas said:
Cancel Aliexpress order, because you can get Xiaomi Mi 9T Global version from Gearbest for ~261 euros! Just use this coupon: GBMI9T500
Link to phone: Gearbest
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Thats a damn good offer, too bad there is only the black variant.
But here is a link from an Italian store (proven) with a 2 I repeat 2 year warranty.
https://grossoshop.net/products/xiaomi-mi-9t-global?variant=23270107938874
Bought my Mi 9T on trading shenzhen for 380€ and I got my unit after like 2-3 days.
I got mine from there also, it arrived in 3 days.
Pejpi said:
Yep saw it a bit later (edited post). So I basically can order from allix in that case.
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yes you can order from aliexpress, but if from rakuten, and seller from europe, you will not pay extra money for customs or taxes, and very often you can find cupons on rakuten , for example when i order it was 30eur offer for over 300eur shopping.
and if you buy on rakuten you will get points ( if you register as member ), i got 1700points what is 17eur, and after you can buy some other things in value of 17eur on rakuten ( for free, you pay with that points ).
just writing this , not to push you to buy.
Update on MiGlobalStore purchase:
So apparently many peoplr have commented on the store news pages, and they are complaining about how they purchased phones and the seller never respond to message nor ship thier phones. This started near end of June, till now.
Dont know what happened to this store but I am cancelling the order.
According to Aliexpress customer service, only the seller can accept the cancellation, which means if the seller does not respond, my money will be held by aliexpress for 40 days. That is just great. And thats probably what will end up happening, since the MiGlobalStore doesnt seem to care about no sh*t at all LOL
I didnt want to wait so i put in an order drom gearbest, and they shipped it (DHL shipping number provided, at least) right away. Will see how that goes.
For now, my gut feeling is: stay the hell away from MiGlobalStore, no matter if you get what you bought in the end, the overall experience is not gonna be smooth for ya.
You mind posting a link of the store pages?
I'm actually rather interested in the story. But I guarantee you that whatever you order will arrive at your doorstep, some people were waiting for a month. But something like that can be delayed in some many different ways. There is just no possible way that they gonna sell 1k phones and not ship them, that's something even AliX would not let happen.
I suppose they just have a bunch of workers shipping what ever crap they need to all day and all night. And have a "dedicated" chat team just on paper to please the minimum requirements to open a online shop on Alix.
But yeah, all in all who doesn't like that should definitely look elsewhere.
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You mind posting a link of the store pages?
I'm actually rather interested in the story. But I guarantee you that whatever you order will arrive at your doorstep, some people were waiting for a month. But something like that can be delayed in some many different ways. There is just no possible way that they gonna sell 1k phones and not ship them, that's something even AliX would not let happen.
I suppose they just have a bunch of workers shipping what ever crap they need to all day and all night. And have a "dedicated" chat team just on paper to please the minimum requirements to open a online shop on Alix.
But yeah, all in all who doesn't like that should definitely look elsewhere.
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Mi Global Store
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bQQcRHbi
Go to the "Feed" tab and open the comments under their (many) posts.
I mean, the price i paid on gearbest is 10 dollars less than this store for the same product, so, with this kinda customer service, to me it is very obvious which to choose lol
I am trying to get a hold of the 8gb / 256gb version of the K20 Pro with band 20 within the UK but it has been a complete nightmare.
I tried from Aliexpress which lost the phone and egobalexpress which has been 'processing' for almost two weeks now.
Did people just acquire their phones from these stores or are there more reliable sellers available?
I know this version of he phone is imported from china but are there any stores where they have stock readily available so you wont have to wait for weeks to months after which you still may not receive your order?
The reliable sellers don't have any in stock, same as the aliexpress and eglobal types, but the difference is they won't let you place an order.
Your eglobal order will get cancelled as soon as you challenge them on despatch.
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The reliable sellers don't have any in stock, same as the aliexpress and eglobal types, but the difference is they won't let you place an order.
Your eglobal order will get cancelled as soon as you challenge them on despatch.
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Would you mind letting me know which ones are legit so I can track the stock for when they do get some?
Gearbest seems to be working for me so far, but I can't give you any assurances.
I bought mine from eGlobalCentral UK.
Paid with paypal as safety precaution.
It took almost 20 days for me.
My country has an authorized official Xiaomi store and lots of retail stores under them. I can also get it from local online shops.
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I bought mine from eGlobalCentral UK.
Paid with paypal as safety precaution.
It took almost 20 days for me.
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how long did it say processing for with your order?
Dont forget officially this is not released in the UK only the 6/128 version. I seen some selling it on eBay. They claim to be UK stock but I wont hold my breath. I don't think you would get better performance with an 8gb version, and I think its not worth it unless you would need the 256 storage. I personally went for the 6\128 version purely because the price difference, and because the EU variant would have support in the UK. No sure about the global version support though. GL any way .
I got mine from wondamobile, can't remember how long it took but it was about a week.
It was a 8/256 Hong Kong global with UK style plug.
Given the choice I'd probably just go with the 128 option, copying large amounts of data over after a ROM flash on USB 2 connection speeds takes forever ?