Waiting on a Redmi 3S turning up, not finding much in the way of ROMs for it?
I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
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I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
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if you want more dev support+heavy gaming then redmi note 3 is the way to go.if you want to use it just normally and u want devs support thn i guess redmi 3 pro is a better choice as it has better support than redmi 3s for now.
Just ordered a Redmi 3s
as a heads up, theres no bootloader unlocking as of yet (except risky unofficial ones) no root without unlocked bootloader.
i just got the 3s and i just bricked it
Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
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as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
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Well, Xiaomi wouldn't like to disappoint their fans. There's isn't any reason for them to drop SD card support. But, leaks are saying there's only 3GB 32GB variant of Redmi 4, so I wouldn't be surprised if they drop SD card support. Seriously, only a few people use SD card on 32GB phones, but all kinds of hardware supports are welcome.
I was in the same boat as you but then I cancelled my 3S Prime and ordered the Note 3. The ROMs that are on MiUi forums are very shady. Also the several variants with the same name (albeit different code names) cause a lot of confusion. The Redmi 3S Prime is a good phone but if you want XDA support, I recommend you get the Redmi Note 3.
Hi all,
I understand that redmi note 4 is out now (or in the nearest future).
1. Is there a meaning for "Pro" attribute of the name? Or that Redmi Note 4 is the same as Redmi Note 4 Pro ?
2. I tried to understand what are the differences between Note 4 and its ancestors. I really could not reach a conclusion if Note 4 worth the waiting for it or not. Can you contribute your thoughts with me?
Thank you all!
The only Note 4 announced so far will have an MTK processor, so you probably won't be able to flash many custom roms. You might get CM12.1 at best. A "Pro" version using a Qualcomm processor is likely on the way. Overall, the Note 4 is not looking like it will offer much of an upgrade over the Note 3. I would go ahead and get the Note 3 Pro if I were you.
Hello i live in Greece and i was interested in purchasing a new phone.
In Greece the only model that is available is the Helio Deca core model and i will be going for the 3 GB Ram 64 Rom version.
I came across a deal and i am seriously considering to purchase the device but i have some questions first
1 ) is the phone rootable?
2) will custom roms such as cyanogen mod and such be available for the device ?
I cant explain what i need from a phone well enough but the case is that i need a smartphone that its software can be altered easily and there are many roms available for it without having to pay the premium for a flagship device.
I do not care about Camera quality only for the core hardware (cpu ram gpu and a good DAC)
Sorry for the confusing explanation if you have any questions i will be more than happy to explain what i mean.
Thank you in advance.
jackaros said:
Hello i live in Greece and i was interested in purchasing a new phone.
In Greece the only model that is available is the Helio Deca core model and i will be going for the 3 GB Ram 64 Rom version.
I came across a deal and i am seriously considering to purchase the device but i have some questions first
1 ) is the phone rootable?
2) will custom roms such as cyanogen mod and such be available for the device ?
I cant explain what i need from a phone well enough but the case is that i need a smartphone that its software can be altered easily and there are many roms available for it without having to pay the premium for a flagship device.
I do not care about Camera quality only for the core hardware (cpu ram gpu and a good DAC)
Sorry for the confusing explanation if you have any questions i will be more than happy to explain what i mean.
Thank you in advance.
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Its really going to be a toss up between this and the Redmi Note 3 Pro. I have the Note 4 and really like it, I can confirm it is fully rootable and you can install TWRP custom recovery also.
There are some custom roms available, although nowhere near as many as the Note 3/Pro. You will see an AOSP rom by cofface which was only released a couple of weeks ago but many have been using as a daily driver (see link below to rom dev thread). There is also a cyanogen rom which is an alpha but again is still a work in progress. You can also get custom/modified versions of the stock MIUI ROM, personally I find MIUI really good (smooth and lots of customisation options), although if you're a stock android enthusiast it might not be for you. And I've used just about all versions of android over the years, be it nexus/CM mod, AOSP/htc sense/touchwiz.
I'd say if your into modding and ROMs, then the Note 3 Pro would be a great option. The specs are pretty similar and the Note 3 seems to have better battery life, which could be the Snapdragon 650, which seems to be a great processor in terms of power and efficiency. As for audio, I'm loving the audio output via the 3.5mm jack, I actually find it better than the Galaxy S7 that I had, which sounded pretty cheap to be honest and was a disappointment for me (probably the only one on the S7) . I havent tried the Note 3 so cant really comment on it, but Im certain there are more than a few audio mods to play around with and if you check the Note 3 forum, you should get an idea of user opinions.
My reason for choosing the Note 4 over the Note 3 was the Note 4's build quality. The all metal body looks and feels really nice, but if thats not really a big deal for you, the Note 3 is supposed to be very solid also, as it does have a metal back (but plastic at the top and bottom for radio signal). It will also be better for glass screen protectors due to the flat panel of glass, where as the Note 4 has 2.5 curved edges which makes screen protectors a bit more hit and miss in terms of fit.
ROM development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/development
gsmyth said:
Its really going to be a toss up between this and the Redmi Note 3 Pro. I have the Note 4 and really like it, I can confirm it is fully rootable and you can install TWRP custom recovery also.
There are some custom roms available, although nowhere near as many as the Note 3/Pro. You will see an AOSP rom by cofface which was only released a couple of weeks ago but many have been using as a daily driver (see link below to rom dev thread). There is also a cyanogen rom which is an alpha but again is still a work in progress. You can also get custom/modified versions of the stock MIUI ROM, personally I find MIUI really good (smooth and lots of customisation options), although if you're a stock android enthusiast it might not be for you. And I've used just about all versions of android over the years, be it nexus/CM mod, AOSP/htc sense/touchwiz.
I'd say if your into modding and ROMs, then the Note 3 Pro would be a great option. The specs are pretty similar and the Note 3 seems to have better battery life, which could be the Snapdragon 650, which seems to be a great processor in terms of power and efficiency. As for audio, I'm loving the audio output via the 3.5mm jack, I actually find it better than the Galaxy S7 that I had, which sounded pretty cheap to be honest and was a disappointment for me (probably the only one on the S7) . I havent tried the Note 3 so cant really comment on it, but Im certain there are more than a few audio mods to play around with and if you check the Note 3 forum, you should get an idea of user opinions.
My reason for choosing the Note 4 over the Note 3 was the Note 4's build quality. The all metal body looks and feels really nice, but if thats not really a big deal for you, the Note 3 is supposed to be very solid also, as it does have a metal back (but plastic at the top and bottom for radio signal). It will also be better for glass screen protectors due to the flat panel of glass, where as the Note 4 has 2.5 curved edges which makes screen protectors a bit more hit and miss in terms of fit.
ROM development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/development
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Thank you very much for your answer and it was amazing that you have the device and that you judged it fairly (in my opinion).
But i learned something that may change my mind ...
For 50 eur more i could get the Samsung Galaxy A5 . And still i do not know what should i do.
I told a friend and he told me that even if the Galaxy phone had even lower specs he would go with it just because its a more reliable brand . ( I dont think this is a very good argument but still using big brand phones like LG Samsung etc and paying more for them "pays back" in a way in support from developers and official support from the company)
Whats your opinion ?
jackaros said:
Thank you very much for your answer and it was amazing that you have the device and that you judged it fairly (in my opinion).
But i learned something that may change my mind ...
For 50 eur more i could get the Samsung Galaxy A5 . And still i do not know what should i do.
I told a friend and he told me that even if the Galaxy phone had even lower specs he would go with it just because its a more reliable brand . ( I dont think this is a very good argument but still using big brand phones like LG Samsung etc and paying more for them "pays back" in a way in support from developers and official support from the company)
Whats your opinion ?
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I understand what he is saying, but in terms of support Xiaomi arent actually that bad. The Note 4 is currently on Android 6.0, but there are continual security updates, like most flagships these days. Its not known for certain whether it will officially get updated to 7.0, but they certainly seem to continue with updates whether they be small fixes and security patches.
I would generally recommend Samsung as well to any friends who want a decent reliable device, although I personally wouldnt choose it over the Note 4 as its got 16GB storage and 2GB RAM. I'm not all about having the biggest screen/fastest processor/most RAM, etc etc, but I've had 16GB phones (my previous one was 32GB) and I just like having the extra internal space, 16GB feels limited these days. And with 64GB the Note 4 just feels like you've no worries about running out, I had a Oneplus One previously as well and it also had 64GB. The bonus on the Note for is the sd card option as well, so you get the best of both worlds.
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I understand what he is saying, but in terms of support Xiaomi arent actually that bad. The Note 4 is currently on Android 6.0, but there are continual security updates, like most flagships these days. Its not known for certain whether it will officially get updated to 7.0, but they certainly seem to continue with updates whether they be small fixes and security patches.
I would generally recommend Samsung as well to any friends who want a decent reliable device, although I personally wouldnt choose it over the Note 4 as its got 16GB storage and 2GB RAM. I'm not all about having the biggest screen/fastest processor/most RAM, etc etc, but I've had 16GB phones (my previous one was 32GB) and I just like having the extra internal space, 16GB feels limited these days. And with 64GB the Note 4 just feels like you've no worries about running out, I had a Oneplus One previously as well and it also had 64GB. The bonus on the Note for is the sd card option as well, so you get the best of both worlds.
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Thank you for your answer.
I want my device to be reliable but i also need it to be snappy and futureproof (my S3 has served me well for 4 years with custom roms ) i want a fast smartphone that will go a long way and the A5 lacks on internal storage and Ram ... so yeah i am seriously thinking the possibility of buying Redmi note 4 but i still have my doubts about it .. i am just not sure if it is worth the investment.
jackaros said:
Thank you for your answer.
I want my device to be reliable but i also need it to be snappy and futureproof (my S3 has served me well for 4 years with custom roms ) i want a fast smartphone that will go a long way and the A5 lacks on internal storage and Ram ... so yeah i am seriously thinking the possibility of buying Redmi note 4 but i still have my doubts about it .. i am just not sure if it is worth the investment.
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If you want longevity and futureproof with custom roms, I would definitely take a look at the Note 3, just look at the ROM development thread at the link below. It reminds me of the Oneplus One or Nexus 5 forums, where you could not only get official cyanogen roms, but all the other great custom roms, so you're really spoilt for choice. Its really only the other phone I considered apart from the Note 4 and again i was just really impressed with the Note 4's build quality.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/development
Sorry not meaning to hijack the thread, just a quick question abotu which OS to choose @gsmyth you seem to be the right person to ask... I have my Redmi Note 4 on order and I think MIUI 8 will work well for me. It seems lik there is still some issues with cofface's AOSP. I will probably debloat it and use Nova Launcher. Of all the different options with MIUI 8, which one would you recommend to use?
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Sorry not meaning to hijack the thread, just a quick question abotu which OS to choose @gsmyth you seem to be the right person to ask... I have my Redmi Note 4 on order and I think MIUI 8 will work well for me. It seems lik there is still some issues with cofface's AOSP. I will probably debloat it and use Nova Launcher. Of all the different options with MIUI 8, which one would you recommend to use?
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Yes the CM/AOSP roms are still early in development, but worth keeping an eye on. I'm really enjoying MIUI to be honest and nova launcher is excellent too. You should be grand with the global rom or the EU rom which is basically the Chinese rom but with all the Chinese content removed. I'd recommend unlocking the bootloader when you get it and installing TWRP, it's great to be able to make full backups if you're trying out roms.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
mrchrister said:
Sorry not meaning to hijack the thread, just a quick question abotu which OS to choose @gsmyth you seem to be the right person to ask... I have my Redmi Note 4 on order and I think MIUI 8 will work well for me. It seems lik there is still some issues with cofface's AOSP. I will probably debloat it and use Nova Launcher. Of all the different options with MIUI 8, which one would you recommend to use?
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latest ROM for Nikel (our device codename) from XIAOMI.EU should be fine
custom roms for this phone require Unlocked BL and root
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-15.36782/
Official Global Beta rom is also another option that but DOES NOT require unlocked BL and Root
http://en.miui.com/thread-440133-1-1.html
This phone is worth every penny, specially the 64 gb and 3 gb version. I'm still on the latest EU MIUI 8.2, and it's actually a pretty great rom, but I do prefer CM... For now I'll keep Miui.
Hi there, just want to pitch you my 2 cents regarding the Redmi Note 4.
I have been looking for a smarthphone for a while and i end up getting a Redmi Note 4 a month ago. Really happy with it and imo my best purchase of the year 2016 :fingers-crossed:
The Redmi Note 4 build quality looks and feel absolutely superb as i'm used to seeing plastic phones in this price category. Most of my friends seeing my Redmi Note 4 for the first time thought it was something more expensive than it actually was.
On the performance side: it's great, but not as great as equal Snapdragon based product with Adreno GPU. But it's definitely and absolutely no sloth! The weakest link imo is the Mali GPU, but still good enough to have a great gaming experience with it (half of my internal storage is currently occupied by huge amount of Android games). But not strong enough for smooth VR experience.
Also, consider the Redmi Note 4 only got released in August, give it some time for developers to make their ROMs compatible with the Redmi Note 4. Even Xiaomi themselves seems to be more focussed on Redmi Note 3 support than Note 4 atm.
jackaros said:
Thank you very much for your answer and it was amazing that you have the device and that you judged it fairly (in my opinion).
But i learned something that may change my mind ...
For 50 eur more i could get the Samsung Galaxy A5 . And still i do not know what should i do.
I told a friend and he told me that even if the Galaxy phone had even lower specs he would go with it just because its a more reliable brand . ( I dont think this is a very good argument but still using big brand phones like LG Samsung etc and paying more for them "pays back" in a way in support from developers and official support from the company)
Whats your opinion ?
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I woulnd't recommend anyone to pay 50 euro MORE for a 'lesser' product (about it's core functionality and hardware):
- Galaxy A5 has lower resolution screen: 720 vs 1080p
- Slower performance, Antutu 20k on the A5 vs 85k on Redmi Note 4
- Less RAM and less storage space (assuming you going for the 3GB model, other wise it would be the same)
- No fingerprint sensor for security and unlocking the phone, and the Redmi Note 4 fingerprint sensor is very quick!
- No 4G(LTE) support on the Galaxy A5
- No USB On-The-Go (OTG) support on the Galaxy A5, which is very handy for anyone with lots of USB devices
If anything, they should be paying you 50 euro to stay loyal to their brand....
I always gets giddy when i read people base their purchase on the argument: "They are a reliable brand". That always makes me wonder what exactly makes a brand "reliable"? Reliable on trying to make you upgrade the product every year? Honestly, those are the hallmark of a fanboi
There are a few reasons however i can think of someone going for the Galaxy A5 anyway:
- Form factor: the Redmi Note 4 is considerably bigger
- Accessories: Having a hard time finding a cover for it locally: not much luck so far. Not surprising however as Xiaomi is not even active in Europe makes it pretty much fail quest to begin with. Online is the only way i guess, same as selling them online (where i got it from) is what Xiaomi business is about; to keep them cheap.
- Repairs or guarantees. No European office means this is going to be a problem if your phone is broken.
Comparison: www kimovil com/en/compare/samsung-galaxy-a5-dual-sim-a500h,xiaomi-redmi-note-4-3gb-32gb
(link is missing "." in the domain name because i'm new and still hasn't posted enough to be allowed putting outside links in my post)
I bought Redmi Note 4 3GB RAM and 64 GB ROM model. I am thoroughly enjoying it.
jackaros said:
Thank you very much for your answer and it was amazing that you have the device and that you judged it fairly (in my opinion).
But i learned something that may change my mind ...
For 50 eur more i could get the Samsung Galaxy A5 . And still i do not know what should i do.
I told a friend and he told me that even if the Galaxy phone had even lower specs he would go with it just because its a more reliable brand . ( I dont think this is a very good argument but still using big brand phones like LG Samsung etc and paying more for them "pays back" in a way in support from developers and official support from the company)
Whats your opinion ?
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Seriously now, how can Samsung be considered "reliable" after their latest explosive device?
Wow guys thank you so much for the answers.
I would first like to thank the bro who hijacked the thread because i got informed about the roms too i know that the phone is quite more powerful than the A5 and i would like to add something .
How does it do next to Redmi Pro
i now what i am asking is terrible but
Could please do a quick comparison of the two ?
Why go RedMi Note 4 instead of Redmi Pro and vice versa
Redmi Pro Version Decacore 64GB 3GB Ram
Redmi Note 4 Decacore 64GB 3GB Ram
jackaros said:
Wow guys thank you so much for the answers.
I would first like to thank the bro who hijacked the thread because i got informed about the roms too i know that the phone is quite more powerful than the A5 and i would like to add something .
How does it do next to Redmi Pro
i now what i am asking is terrible but
Could please do a quick comparison of the two ?
Why go RedMi Note 4 instead of Redmi Pro and vice versa
Redmi Pro Version Decacore 64GB 3GB Ram
Redmi Note 4 Decacore 64GB 3GB Ram
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I too looked between the Redmi Pro & Note 4 but decided to go with the Note 4 as I wanted the larger screen & was happy to go MTK.
Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
my Redmi Note 3 pro SE became unusable because the screen internally cracked from a drop due to no gorilla glass, I'm looking to replace it and I'm wondering if Note 4 is an actually upgrade or if I rebuy the N3 and save 35$, since both have bad Rom support, since I'm out of luck either way so My focus would be on durability so it wouldn't die again and gaming performance (my benchmark is not lagging in future fight)
so, for those who upgraded, who'd you pick given 35$ difference?
PS: Redmi Note 4 SD is unavailable and even if it did, the 625 is a downgrade from the 650
Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
Wait for redmi note 5 snapdragon.
want dual camera then wait for 5... or else our rn4 is ready to serve...though if you can wait it'll always be better...so if u can wait do so or else gget rn4 coz miui9 update is also here...as for unistallin bloatware, of course u can..updates come as downloadable zip files flashable through twrp
Go for the mi note 4 64gb to get good storage both internal and external but it will be with miui.
And if you like stock android and quick updates from google then go for mi a1.. But still almost end of 2017 i would suggest to wait for redmi note 5..
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daddyodevil said:
Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
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daddyodevil said:
Now I need a new phone as soon as possible. My Zuk Z1 crashed 3 weeks ago and I've been using my dad's phone from then which is a Asus Zenfone 2 with 2Gb RAM, 16 Gb storage and a Snapdragon 400. Xiaomi just held a conference in India launching the Y1 and Y1Lite, with the 435 and 425 respectively, other than that they also added a dedicated SD card slot. Other than this I don't really need much. I read a lot, listen to a lot of music and watch Youtube videos and need a lot of storage, I don't game or take pictures for that matter. The SD400 stacks up ok after 2+ years just lags a little from now and then.
Now as per trend, Xioami most probably will launch the Redmi Note 5 in January. And I personally love the Note 4 and A1. My primary concern is if I buy the Note 4 now, will it stack up well till mid 2019 or so, or should i wait for the Note 5 or should I get the new Y1 though the latter has an 5.5" HD and not a FHD display which I feel I need but the 435 might age well.
I've a question also - After rooting, can I remove pre installed apps and still get official updates ?
Any advice is appreciated.
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if you can wait for rn5
In case it's urgent:
Look if you need better camera and don't care about battery go for mi a1
And if you're a heavy user like me and an average camera is enough for you then go for rn4 also it has better development support for now.
Please hit thanks button if I helped!
Better Camera Mi A1
Better Performance Redmi Note 4