Hello,
I have M4 Aqua E2303, with newest firmware .167, unlocked BL and root.
I checked, that phone have better performance in max. frequencions (1.1 and 1.5 GHz), in games like Asphalt8, but when goes bit hot (65 deggress C) it will drop to 800MHz and 1.1 GHz, and games are lagging.
I mean phone or system managing automatically cpu clock depends on temperature, its any way to disable it? Or change limit?(maybe clock down in 80 deggress)
And what is CPU limit temperature in smartphones? In computers is (i mean) 90 degress, no?
Hey, I'd love to know it all as well Hoping for some pros to dive into our systems
I've looked everywhere and can't find a root nor any threads can someone help me out
Just rooted mine with http://kingroot.net
It's just root, no recovery or bootloader so far, but after deleting bloatware and installing Sense 7, it's a perfect and snappy phablet ☺☺☺
I unlocked my bootliader on my Fierce XL 5045n, now what?
I just noticed a "allow BootLoader to be unlocked" option in developer options. Still can't get root though. But that should definitely help getting a custom recovery done. I still can't get root, tried numerous times, apk and with Windows. I'm stock lollipop 5.1.1 and have the box checked to allow bootloader to be unlocked in developer options but still nothing. Any ideas?
LazMike, did you try Kingroot?
nyttliv7 said:
LazMike, did you try Kingroot?
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Yes, I did, thanks, didn't work at first but a newer version did the trick but some apps are denied permission from Kinguser even though I grant it and it shows they are granted, it also made my phone super laggy. Cant wait for a recovery and some custom ROMs.
That's weird? My phone got even snappier... But I deleted quite a bunch of apps though. My ram is showing like 1gb free most of the time. I'm using greenify, maybe that helps as well? But of course, it will be great when the real development starts for this phone ☺
LazMike said:
Yes, I did, thanks, didn't work at first but a newer version did the trick but some apps are denied permission from Kinguser even though I grant it and it shows they are granted, it also made my phone super laggy. Cant wait for a recovery and some custom ROMs.
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What version did you use?
I think it's the newest. 4.5.2, a older version wouldn't work, I keep getting permission denied for certain apps, even though they are granted and shows they are as well. I also keep losing root and Kingo has to redo it.
Ok so here's some tips for people who wanna root:
>-Download Kingroot 4.6.0 and use that to root. It may take a few tries but it'll root
>-In general settings, turn off smart authorization so it won't constantly ask for permissions that you already granted
>-If you want your Fierce XL to be faster and less battery consuming, download Kernel Auditor from the Play Store. When it's installed, grant root permission for it, go to the menu, tap where it says "CPU", and where it says " CPU Governor", click on it. It should have an option that says "powersave". Click on that one and you're good to go
>REMINDER: You need to root first to do all of this
psycho_deth6 said:
Ok so here's some tips for people who wanna root:
>-Download Kingroot 4.6.0 and use that to root. It may take a few tries but it'll root
>-In general settings, turn off smart authorization so it won't constantly ask for permissions that you already granted
>-If you want your Fierce XL to be faster and less battery consuming, download Kernel Auditor from the Play Store. When it's installed, grant root permission for it, go to the menu, tap where it says "CPU", and where it says " CPU Governor", click on it. It should have an option that says "powersave". Click on that one and you're good to go
>REMINDER: You need to root first to do all of this
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It's of course a matter of personal taste and needs, but I don't agree with the choice of Powersave Governor. I use 3C toolbox Pro to change OOM settings to a level were most services "dies" after a set time of non use, which gives a bit snappier experience and less pressure on battery. Of course you need to be careful with OOM (ram) to not "kill" to fast, loosing more multitasking power.
My battery got better and better, and now after a week of heavy use from 100% down to 5%, it lasts from 8 to 14 hours, depending on usage. Fairly good for a midrange phone.
And I do prefer the built in Cpu Governor (interactive). It's a good balance between snappiness and battery. Powersave on the other hand, will obviously save battery, but for sure also make the system slower. But as I said before, it's all up to the user and his needs and expectations.
"Performance Governor:
This locks the phone's CPU at maximum frequency. While this may sound like an ugly idea, there is growing evidence to suggest that running a phone at its maximum frequency at all times will allow a faster race-to-idle. Race-to-idle is the process by which a phone completes a given task, such as syncing email, and returns the CPU to the extremely efficient low-power state. This still requires extensive testing, and a kernel that properly implements a given CPU's C-states (low power states).
Powersave Governor:
The opposite of the Performance governor, the Powersave governor locks the CPU frequency at the lowest frequency set by the user.
Interactive Governor:
Much like the OnDemand governor, the Interactive governor dynamically scales CPU clockspeed in response to the workload placed on the CPU by the user. This is where the similarities end. Interactive is significantly more responsive than OnDemand, because it's faster at scaling to maximum frequency.
Unlike OnDemand, which you'll recall scales clockspeed in the context of a work queue, Interactive scales the clockspeed over the course of a timer set arbitrarily by the kernel developer. In other words, if an application demands a ramp to maximum clockspeed (by placing 100% load on the CPU), a user can execute another task before the governor starts reducing CPU frequency. This can eliminate the frequency bouncing discussed in the OnDemand section. Because of this timer, Interactive is also better prepared to utilize intermediate clockspeeds that fall between the minimum and maximum CPU frequencies. This is another pro-battery life benefit of Interactive.
However, because Interactive is permitted to spend more time at maximum frequency than OnDemand (for device performance reasons), the battery-saving benefits discussed above are effectively negated. Long story short, Interactive offers better performance than OnDemand (some say the best performance of any governor) and negligibly different battery life.
Interactive also makes the assumption that a user turning the screen on will shortly be followed by the user interacting with some application on their device. Because of this, screen on triggers a ramp to maximum clockspeed, followed by the timer behavior described above."
nyttliv7 said:
It's of course a matter of personal taste and needs, but I don't agree with the choice of Powersave Governor. I use 3C toolbox Pro to change OOM settings to a level were most services "dies" after a set time of non use, which gives a bit snappier experience and less pressure on battery. Of course you need to be careful with OOM (ram) to not "kill" to fast, loosing more multitasking power.
My battery got better and better, and now after a week of heavy use from 100% down to 5%, it lasts from 8 to 14 hours, depending on usage. Fairly good for a midrange phone.
And I do prefer the built in Cpu Governor (interactive). It's a good balance between snappiness and battery. Powersave on the other hand, will obviously save battery, but for sure also make the system slower. But as I said before, it's all up to the user and his needs and expectations.
"Performance Governor:
This locks the phone's CPU at maximum frequency. While this may sound like an ugly idea, there is growing evidence to suggest that running a phone at its maximum frequency at all times will allow a faster race-to-idle. Race-to-idle is the process by which a phone completes a given task, such as syncing email, and returns the CPU to the extremely efficient low-power state. This still requires extensive testing, and a kernel that properly implements a given CPU's C-states (low power states).
Powersave Governor:
The opposite of the Performance governor, the Powersave governor locks the CPU frequency at the lowest frequency set by the user.
Interactive Governor:
Much like the OnDemand governor, the Interactive governor dynamically scales CPU clockspeed in response to the workload placed on the CPU by the user. This is where the similarities end. Interactive is significantly more responsive than OnDemand, because it's faster at scaling to maximum frequency.
Unlike OnDemand, which you'll recall scales clockspeed in the context of a work queue, Interactive scales the clockspeed over the course of a timer set arbitrarily by the kernel developer. In other words, if an application demands a ramp to maximum clockspeed (by placing 100% load on the CPU), a user can execute another task before the governor starts reducing CPU frequency. This can eliminate the frequency bouncing discussed in the OnDemand section. Because of this timer, Interactive is also better prepared to utilize intermediate clockspeeds that fall between the minimum and maximum CPU frequencies. This is another pro-battery life benefit of Interactive.
However, because Interactive is permitted to spend more time at maximum frequency than OnDemand (for device performance reasons), the battery-saving benefits discussed above are effectively negated. Long story short, Interactive offers better performance than OnDemand (some say the best performance of any governor) and negligibly different battery life.
Interactive also makes the assumption that a user turning the screen on will shortly be followed by the user interacting with some application on their device. Because of this, screen on triggers a ramp to maximum clockspeed, followed by the timer behavior described above."
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You're kinda right, powersave does kinda suck sometimes. I wish they had the "Conservative" governor. That works for me
Anyways, this phone has all we need to become a perfect one, as soon as we get our custom recovery ☺
I'm searching through alcatel and MSM8909 forums to see who's behind their recoveries ☺☺☺
DO NOT TRY TO INSTALL XPOSED
YOU WILL BRICK YOUR PHONES
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yea kingroot is being a pain I have 1 GB internet speed i can download anything fast except this stupid 15.3mb file when i finally got done realized it was the chinese version now have to wait another hour hope it works though
Is anyone familiar with the built in recovery mode? What limitations does it have?
I'm not sure, but if the following similarities are enough, then maybe this thread can help us experimenting?
Fierce xl:
Qualcomm MSM8909 Snapdragon 210
Quad-core 1.1 GHz Cortex-A7
Adreno 304
PIXI 3 (5) 4g:
Qualcomm MSM8909
Quad-core 1.1 GHz
Pixi 3 (5.5) LTE:
Qualcomm MSM8909 Snapdragon 200
Quad-core, 1.1 GHz Cortex A7
Adreno 304
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3193624
Can someone upload the stock dialer apk and odex for this phone?
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Remove kingroot entirely so my xl is stock again can anyone help me
I'm trying to remove the kingroot root entirely from my phone everything I get or send a picture message it does not download and open or send ever since the I ingrown was installed also emojis worked at first but no long show up please help with removal of all kingroot settings apps and return to store bought settings
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I'm trying to remove the kingroot root entirely from my phone everything I get or send a picture message it does not download and open or send ever since the I ingrown was installed also emojis worked at first but no long show up please help with removal of all kingroot settings apps and return to store bought settings
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were you using the newest version of kingroot? I've had none of these issues
AesopRock127 said:
were you using the newest version of kingroot? I've had none of these issues
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As far as I know I was but I unrooted my phone but still can't download incoming pix or see emojis the emojis keyboard is there just don't show them
Well, i want to know what it says on the title. Is it possible to make al core at the same frequency? I have a Xiaomi Mi4(Snapdragon 801), and i noticed that on some new devices(Moto G4 and Moto G5) there is no mpdecision, but the cores scale at the same frequency, and AFAIK that is more efficient that only 2 cores scaling at the same frequency and leaving 2 cores off.
So, thats what i want to know, how or if its possible to make the 4 cores scale at the same frequency so it doesnt need to get at the max frequency most of time(like usually does because it uses 2 cores most of time), or it is related to kernel or if i need something to do this.
Thanks in advance!
I'm no expert but probably not. It's most likely the way the CPU is designed that decide these things.
Well, the thing is that the cpu it's kind of retard, or that's what I think, because most of times it prefers to make lags before turning on another core and that's the problem, that's why I want to know if it's possible to change that or it's hardware related
A great way to reduce heat generated on the xperia 1 iii/5 iii also gain bit more battery life.
There was a debate on why the snapdragon 888 heats up and the 2 reasons most told was ''Samsung's manufacturing process'' and that the "GPU was overclocked to 800+ Mhz to excel in benchmark"
I reduced the GPU freq to 491 Mhz, I had top temp 45 Celsius, before it went past 50 Celsius . So in the end reduced a bit of CPU and GPU and got good battery life and way less hot.
First root phone.
Then install
3c cpu manager - Android Apps on Google Play
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Any settings from this application is temporary, as you restart the phone the frequency are back to default, only change maximum freq nothing else don't change the governors.
My settings:
CPU 1: Max freq = 998 Mhz
CPU 2: Max Freq = 1.2 Mhz
CPU 3: Max Freq = 1.3 Mhz
GPU : Max Freq = 419 Mhz
Try and post the experience and if any improvement (Mention with region model numbers)
:-Since rooted might want to try call recording , great app. Since native sony doesn't support call recording in many regions.
Releases · chenxiaolong/BCR
A Basic Call Recorder for rooted Android devices. Contribute to chenxiaolong/BCR development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Tried your settings but after reboot it doesn't stick it reverts back to original settings
Mangtas_666 said:
Tried your settings but after reboot it doesn't stick it reverts back to original settings
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Yes it wont stick, untill you flash modified kernel it doesn't stick but if you dont reboot it wont go. Also after setting the frequency, wait for the phone to sleep once then temperature stays to a max and for me the battery life increased, without any performance degrade.
Yeah the issue is there is no modified kernel out there for our device. Kirisakura kernel does not fully support our xperia 1 iii. Sony haven't released their source code.
Try the application and if you dont like to keep the application you can remove it, still it keeps the frequency you set, till you restart the device. Main for heating up in phone is the GPU, as per what i learned, reducing its frequency itself , reduced heat a lot. Try and let know your SOT and heat temperature avg.
Yeah i have EXkernel manager it indeed lessen the heat specially when gaming.
Kirisakura kernel supports our device now..