Is the only option on the Z Droid is to wait? - Moto Z Questions & Answers

I think because of the locked bootloader and different kernel the OTA file that is floating around is incompatible with the Verizon Z Droid. Am I correct? I miss installing custom roms on my phone, thinking of getting rid of this phone.

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[Q] Atrix Open Recovery?

So like most motorola phones the Atrix has a locked/encrypted bootloader; motorola has stated they will be announcing a plan for the bootloaders but most likely its just a PR stunt. I previously owned a Milestone and they were able to load custom roms (minus the radio/kernel) into the phone via a recovery mod.
Is there something stopping the atrix from having this same kind of recovery method to load this custom roms on?
with the original droid/milestone they were able to mod because there was a leak of the bootloader which they reverse engineered to allow custom stuff. That's what most of the devs here are trying to do, but it's more tricky if you don't have the source for the bootloader.

Used HTC Thunderbolt, Getting things set up

Okay, so I ordered a USED Thunderbolt on ebay last week and it should be here tomorrow. I'm not entirely new to rooting and such as I have a droid 2 global now, but that's motorola which seems to be fairly different from HTC. Anyway I've been reading threads and have come up with a few questions.
For instance if my phone is rooted when I get it, how can I get back to stock. I won't know how it was rooted, and some guides say it matters, while others don't. Plus many guides say not to just flash an RUU over a rooted phone, but if it replaces the bootloader, radio, and system, why not. Isn't that basically like an SBF on a motorola phone? Can I then also do a data wipe from the hboot bootloader thing on my phone and end up with a perfect stock device without any risk? From what I understand some roots block this entirely on the phone though so maybe I can't. I'm not really sure how to know what is safe to do on a phone that I didn't previously own and would love a guide to how to check these things and what to do so I don't brick the phone.
Also I can't seem to find a functional link to any of the latest radios, does anyone have a working link, and do people recommend the leaked radio from the most recent leaked build, or an official radio? and if so what radio is official? the one ending in 906 seems to be the most recent that I think is official but I'm not sure, though I am almost certain the 916 one isn't official, it appears to have been released in january on rootzwiki, while the most recent leaked build was less than a week ago from what I understand, but I don't know if it has a new radio or not.
Aside from that I think I've got it all down. figure out how to get phone to most recent stock OTA update. get 4g lte sim card, activate, root using this method.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/20864-tool-root-2116059-and-19-no-downgrade-or-data-wipe/
then if I don't have the most recent radio I can flash it in the hboot thing, and can use cwm to flash any rom I want and a recommended kernel (I'm thinking thundershed 1.5 for starters though wouldn't mind some recommendations. I love Cyanogenmod)
Does this sound about right?
Also I'm not sure how hboot on htc phones works aside from booting on power+vol down button, but does the hboot allow for clearing data and cache as well as flashing things? On my droid 2 global there is a bootloader than can only be used to flash sbf files to get back to stock ota, and then there is a motorola stock recovery on the phone that is used for flashing updated ota updates that are signed or wiping data/cache. Are these the same on htc or are there a 2 different ones on that phone as well? I do understand that no PC is required for the htc as the tool to flash an ruu is built into the phone even if it is an older one than what the phone is currently on right?

Asking for information again.

I just got the new HTC One yesterday, I upgraded from a One X and had that rooted, unlocked , and flashed several roms back and forth.
Is this HTC One like the HTC One X for rooting and flashing custom recoveries?
Another question off this subject. But, is there any way to get rid of the Blink Feed without rooting
leesumm said:
I just got the new HTC One yesterday, I upgraded from a One X and had that rooted, unlocked , and flashed several roms back and forth.
Is this HTC One like the HTC One X for rooting and flashing custom recoveries?
Another question off this subject. But, is there any way to get rid of the Blink Feed without rooting
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I don't know about the One X, but for the One, in general it's: unlock bootloader --> flash custom recovery --> anything you want (root/flash roms & modules/etc)
About the second question: your only option to get rid of Blinkfeed completely is to install a different launcher, but you'll lose Sense. You can also push Blinkfeed screen out of the way by making another screen as your home screen, and just pretend that that screen doesn't exist.
Newcron said:
I don't know about the One X, but for the One, in general it's: unlock bootloader --> flash custom recovery --> anything you want (root/flash roms & modules/etc)
About the second question: your only option to get rid of Blinkfeed completely is to install a different launcher, but you'll lose Sense. You can also push Blinkfeed screen out of the way by making another screen as your home screen, and just pretend that that screen doesn't exist.
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Sounds like the HTC one and the HTC One X is about the same,get token, unlock, flash recovery then whatever on the roms and mods.
I think thats what I did, pushed it over to another screen and don't use it. I don't like having multiple screeens but that is what I have . Guess maybe to get rid of it, is unlock, and flash another rom.
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Is the One M8 easy to flash ROM's ?

I have an upgrade available on ATT, looking at the One M8 or the S5. I like to flash stock ROM's that have been tweaked to remove bloatware, and add better battery life. Been using Android phones for years, had the first four Nexus phones ( N1, N-S, G Nex, N4 ), a couple of HTC ( EVO 4G and One X ), and a few Samsung Galaxy phones ( S2, Note 2, S4 ).
My last HTC was an international One X, and man did that phone piss me off flashing ROM's, had to go through all this fast boot crap, and command prompt stuff, and all these extra steps just to flash a new ROM or kernel, and then always had to make sure I was up to date on my bootloader update or something ? Bottom line it was a big pain in the balls, and frustrating.
My Nexus 4 was easy as pie to flash ROM's and stuff, but the battery life sucked. And I currently have the ATT S4, and this phone is locked down tight, no flashing custom ROM's or kernels on this, only root that's it. So I think I am done with Samsung on U.S. carriers for now.
So lets say I get the ATT One M8, I see it can be rooted pretty easily, and a custom Recovery installed ? What about flashing new ROM's ? Is it as simple as just rebooting the phone to Recovery, and wiping data, etc... then flash the ROM zip and reboot and all good ? Or do we have to go through the bootloader and command prompt stuff on this phone ?
Thank you
Depending on how good you are with ADB and your computer Command Prompt, the hardest part to rooting and flashing custom roms would be unlocking the bootloader as you need to take additional steps to unlock it unlike the Nexus line of devices.
But it's a AIO(All In One Toolkit) in the international threads that haven you just click, copy and paste pretty much.
After that all you need to do is install a recovery and flash away. No more need of a computer every time you want to flash a rom like the One X did
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Depending on how good you are with ADB and your computer Command Prompt, the hardest part to rooting and flashing custom roms would be unlocking the bootloader as you need to take additional steps to unlock it unlike the Nexus line of devices.
But it's a AIO(All In One Toolkit) in the international threads that haven you just click, copy and paste pretty much.
After that all you need to do is install a recovery and flash away. No more need of a computer every time you want to flash a rom like the One X did
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Thanks. I understand that rooting and unlocking the One M8 is more in depth and longer process than a Nexus phone, but once that's completed, and a Recovery installed on the phone I just want to be able to download ROM zips to the sd/card, and quickly reboot and flash a ROM and be done. I was really turned off by that international One X crap, flashing a ROM became a major ordeal.
Yup you can just download the rom to your SD card and flash from there
Are the international roms compatible like with the m7
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its not hard at all and shouldnt take you more than 20-30 mins. its relatively simple actually.
i just got the att m8 , it has hboot 3.16. i was able to unlock with htc dev, s-off was easy on firewater, but i have not been ablle to successfully flash other roms. the phone will finish successfully but upon rebooting into the new rom, the phone will get to the screen when u chose language then reboot itself every min or so from booting up. i havent tryied to flash any aosp roms yet, i have a feeling that aosp roms would work fine, but i dont want an aosp rom yet. i feel like its a sense thing. i have tryed to change my phone to a developer edition, changed cid to supercid, flash developer nandroid, same problem, i sim unlocked and using tmobile sim card no issues there, but the stock rom my phone came with is the only one that works.
I would go with the M8 I had the note 3 as my last At&t phone and no one was ever able to unlock the bootloader.
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[Q] Which new Verizon phones have unlocked bootloaders?

Hey, I need to make up my mind this weekend on which phone I will be getting from Verizon. Can you name any phones that you know of that have a up-to-date root method and maybe even unlocked bootloaders (as of now)? Thanks!!!
I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't seem there are any new phones that have official methods of unlocking the bootloader. They are all exploits. My last phone that had an exploit was my S3, but since I have the protection plan it kept getting replaced with refubs. Last one had 4.4.2 installed and there is currently no exploit. I want to get a new phone to replace it so I can use custom roms, but don't want to go through the problem again.
Anyways, good luck.
Only way that is happening is if you order a Developer Edition model. They haven't been cool with unlocking their bootloaders for ages now.

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