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I just had my Moto g4 plus 64 stolen, I've used Moto G' for a few years now and they're brilliant, running stock android and no need to root.
I just ordered an unique z pro from eBay after watching a few YouTube reviews who all thought the phone was brilliant, now after looking on this forum there are a few saying do not buy.
If you have one, are you happy with it with official software? (I don't plan on routing a new phone)
I haven't receive it yet and am beginning to regret the purchase so it may have to go back!
I was looking at the Moto Z play but this is £130 cheeper.
I received mine from Gearbest five days ago. I also read all forum topics and was skeptic about the phone, even thou made a video of unpacking it.
First of all - the phone is absolutely brilliant - I have NONE of all problems people talking here: battery life is good - more than 5 hours with display switched on, apps orientation is fine, display is perfect - no scratches or anything else, my SD card working just perfect.
I got the phone with V3.01_20170321 ROM, 2 days ago it receives the v.3.01_20170408 as OTA update - NO problems at all.
Charging is slow, even using standard charger (I usually charge my phones while they are connected to PC).
Sound of the speakers is gorgeous, loud enough.
The phone is using pure Android which is good.
The camera is simply outstanding.
Also NO problems with Wi-Fi or 4G(LTE) - in my country Bulgaria all mobile operators are using 1800MHz for 4G. The coverage and the signal is on a maximum level.
For the money I've paid - this phone is super!
Thanks, have you got a link to your video?
I didn't upload it. The video is for my personal use - in case something wasn't OK when I got it, it would be easier to claim for money back or replace the phone.
More or less I can report the same. So far after a week, I have no hardware or software issue with the phone. Seems to be working as advertised. The only issue I had was with a few applications which simply refuse to run, but I didn't dig further to see why they FC. If intending to run it with no root and unmodified they it should be perfectly fine. Even though the os is AOSP based, I'd still prefer to have the possibility to run anything I'd like, such as Lineage for example. When it comes to charging, Im not sure what should be classified as slow or fast, but I think the phone charges in about an hour if I'm not mistaken. And one thing I'd like to see improved is the final quality of photos, since in the preview everything seems sharp and detailed but the captured photos seem somewhat pixelated for my taste but on the other hand I haven't explored that much the settings. In general it appears to be a good phone.
I have my Phone since a Week.
Very good sound
Good screen(thank's to Sharp! Real good Japanese quality)
The hardware is perfect
I received the Phone with V 3.01_20170321
I had some problems with the OTA Update 3.01_20170408:
- had to reset and recalibrate the gravity and compass sensors. Easy to do
- I had more problems with the radio 3G/4G. It lost a lot of times the GPRS connections and the modem had very big difficulties to reconnect it back on network. I can partially understand, my provider share his networks and frequencies with an other provider. But no excuse for Umi(digi ) i had never problems with other phones. Umi have to follow clearly the established protocols and do more tests !!
I reinstalled the firmware with flashtool with full formating. Since, it seems ok.
In all cases, I'll waiting a few days before I authorize the upgrade on Nougat(as soon it coming )
Some good non-sponsored reviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UAkAU02cU&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Bxa2Sy9Ck
I think those cover the bases pretty well.
One note is that the wifi radio is worse than my nexus 4 which is pretty sad. Wifi is really important.
Overall I'm happy with my $234 phone but it's definitely not the 'best budget phone.'
Disappointed with the Camera
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
Jhadial said:
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
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4G works just fine so it's supported
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I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
Just ordered...GearBest just shipped it from EUwarehouse to replace my worn down S4active
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chebsy said:
I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
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Cough cough 7.1.1 cough
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I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
ZeroZorro said:
Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
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Mx player works fine and pro version try the free version and see if same issue exists
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marco.deluxe said:
I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
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umi super user here. would you say that the Z pro is a good and worthy step over the super or are the differences too small to upgrade?
Same with the free version of MXplayer
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ZeroZorro said:
Same with the free version of MXplayer
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Must be a bug when does this happen
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Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
ZeroZorro said:
Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
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Does it happen on the beta version?
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Hi everyone!
I bought an LG G5 about 3 weeks ago. I was coming from a Xiaomi mi5 (that I loved! But had signal problems in the States) and the LG G5 feels like a single core 512mb of RAM phone. Using the LG launcher it was so laggy scrolling pages, so I switched to Nova launcher and now at least the launcher feels better. The problem is that everything else sucks. Even just using chrome is so painful, scrolling long webpages is not smooth at all, same thing happens scrolling my phone's settings or any other app. Sometimes it seems a little better but after some hard use and some apps opened it starts lagging like crazy and it even freezes. The performance of this phone is awful and I haven't had such a low performance phone in years. Also it gets really hot with normal use. So this is all very weird to me and I'm wondering if there's a problem with my device or if a factory reset could solve my problems. As I got the phone I updated it to Nougat but didn't do any factory reset (since it was brand new and nothing was installed yet). Do you guys think that could be affecting it? How is your phone acting? Is the LG G5 such a crappy, slow and laggy phone or I'm experiencing something abnormal?
Thank you to everyone who will answer this post and try to help!
I just bought an RS988 G5 last week too. I updated to Nougat (21b) and did a factory reset (really wish there was a simple clear system cache option in the recovery).
Anyway, I have not experienced much lag at all. In fact, it is noticeably smoother than my S7. Also, mine doesn't get very warm unless I do heavy tasks like gaming.
I'm actually quite pleased with the G5. Compared to the S7, my only issues are the build quality is definitely a step back. And the software support (from both LG and third-party) is rather weak, especially for our model.
Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the performance, battery life and camera. I'm getting ~20-30min more SoT than my 1-year old S7. Even aesthetically it's not as bad as it is in videos/photos (I have the titan version)... looks much better in person.
Is that your device is a original product? Not buy from those china store? Nowadays have alot of fake phone. I scare that the phone is not G5.
Another thing, between this 3 weeks, do you install any apps?
djskribbles said:
I just bought an RS988 G5 last week too. I updated to Nougat (21b) and did a factory reset (really wish there was a simple clear system cache option in the recovery).
Anyway, I have not experienced much lag at all. In fact, it is noticeably smoother than my S7. Also, mine doesn't get very warm unless I do heavy tasks like gaming.
I'm actually quite pleased with the G5. Compared to the S7, my only issues are the build quality is definitely a step back. And the software support (from both LG and third-party) is rather weak, especially for our model.
Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the performance, battery life and camera. I'm getting ~20-30min more SoT than my 1-year old S7. Even aesthetically it's not as bad as it is in videos/photos (I have the titan version)... looks much better in person.
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Thank you for answering! So from what I understand your phone doesn't lag and it's not slow. I think I'll try a factory reset cause the phone I'm using doesn't feel like a flagship at all
Dogs1985 said:
Is that your device is a original product? Not buy from those china store? Nowadays have alot of fake phone. I scare that the phone is not G5.
Another thing, between this 3 weeks, do you install any apps?
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Thank you for answering! I'm sure my phone is an LG G5 original. I bought it from a physical store (Best Buy) and I doubt it's a fake. In these 3 weeks I installed the regular apps that I had in my Mi5 and that didn't affect it at all. I don't think it's because of the apps and if it is then I don't know what to do cause I regularly use all of them and I need them
My LG G4 is dying.
I need a Verizon based phone to work with the Verizon MVNO I contract air access from.
How does the MotoZ vzw version handle unlocked bootloader? Is it possible?
I'm real keen on custom rom usage, whats the best custom roms available for the moto Z?
Any cons I should be made aware of?
What type of sim card ? ie: nano....................
I am done with the Asian phone manufacturers, unfortunately I have had bad experience with HTC and now LG.
Paid flagship prices for crap, sorry to say. My most favored phone was a motorola flip phone, maybe I return to motorola.
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Motorola = Lenovo = Chinese [emoji6]
I've had the MotoZ after the LG G4. Only short time. Since one year on Galaxy S8 and happy. Maybe a LG V30 as alternative?
I cannot say anything about a Verizon phone since I have no clue if they "tainted" the Moto Z too, making it different from global variants.
As for simply being worth it:
If you are paying less than 450$, it's definitely worth it.
The phone is snappy, hysterically thin for a phone ( it's as thick as an iPhone when you put a bulky case on it, otherwise it's only 5.2mm thick ), has a good camera, a great display and you will love the UI if you're a fan of stock Android.
However, if you can pay more than 450$, consider something like a Oneplus 5.
Battery is AWFUL. The phone is mostly smooth but if you use it for prolonged periods, it heats up and then starts lagging due to throttling.
Camera is reasonable at most but the camera lens get scratched easily, so the image quality could degrade over time.
Mods are funny at some point but are extremely expensive and there are chaper alternatives that work on any device, not being necessary to have a Z phone to use them.
Fingerprint scanner works but it's not the fastest and misses sometimes, and it get's really annoying when you have to try 4 or 5 times to unlock it.
Motorola has abandoned this phone, which hasn't received a security update since December and god knows when it'll get Oreo, and even worse, god knows what sort of bugs Lenovo interns will give us when Oreo finally arrives.
Doesn't have a headphone jack.
My particular unit developed severe burn-in after only 7 months of usage, but every display is different, so your mileage may vary.
Phone is so thin that it's unconfortable to hold without a mod attatched or a case, which is a bummer because the phone is good looking without anything on it. Also slippery as hell.
There are not many developers for the Moto Z, so there isn't many custom roms available compared to Samsung or even Sony. There are some unofficial builds from big projects like Lineage but there are some bugs here and there.
So, take it with a grain of salt because this is my experience, but beware because I'm not the only one reporting those issues. Just check out Lenovo forums and see how many battery drain topics are there, which got even worse after the 7.1.1 update.
Forget those awesome flip phones Motorola once built, because that company is dead. Motorola is just a brand name now, everything is Lenovo. When you boot the Moto Z there is a big ass Lenovo logo so you don't forget it. If I were you, I would go for the OnePlus 5 . Your experience may be worse with Motorola.
The phone uses nano sim though.
Moto Z= bored device + screen burn + ugly battery life
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One plus is an Asian brand too xD
Z2 Play or bust
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maybe I return to motorola.
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Don't. Battery life is awful, and Motorola does not support this device any more.
Mine got broken (bluetooth died), I sent it to Motorola for repair three months ago, and they refuse to fix or refund it, despite still being under warranty.
I see a lot of salty people here.
I've had my Moto Z since October 2017. I upgraded from Nexus 5x, which got bootloop. Is it worth it?
That depends on the price. I've got mine for 350$ and I'm pretty satisfied. The battery is similar to the one I've had in 5x (needs a recharge at the end of the day). However, with Incipio power pack it lasts a full day of heavy use.
No burn-ins whatsoever.
It was lagging a little bit at the beginning, but now its really snappy, miles better than my crap Nexus. I've played Vice City quite a lot and no major throttling issues happened to me (maybe some fps drops once a while, but it's not something drastic).
Motorola still supports this phone. Fast updates are long gone from the Google days, but they're still pretty average.
I really like this phone, but if I were you I would wait a little bit more for the Nokia 7 Plus. 2018 version looks amazing.
And stay away from any LG. They can't fix bootloop problems since G4. G6 and V30 are too young to judge if they're fine. They still may bootloop in the near future.
I forgot to add: Fingerprint sucks. Nexus 5x was better in that term.
Ok, my Axon 7 is still in great shape. I just replaced the battery and am running very smoothly on B12 Oreo beta with Magisk and Xposed. I couldn't ask for anything more in a phone. However the upcoming ROG phone had me very intrigued and excited! I refuse to use a phone without stereo speakers and if it is compatible with Verizon, I will have a very hard time not pulling the trigger on it. Anyone else feel me?
where did you buy battery from?
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Ok, my Axon 7 is still in great shape. I just replaced the battery and am running very smoothly on B12 Oreo beta with Magisk and Xposed. I couldn't ask for anything more in a phone. However the upcoming ROG phone had me very intrigued and excited! I refuse to use a phone without stereo speakers and if it is compatible with Verizon, I will have a very hard time not pulling the trigger on it. Anyone else feel me?
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I don't lol. I believe most of us are here because of the $$$.
Obviously everyone has different priorities and mine are AMOLED and good audio, plus a flagship SoC (Even an 820 seems enough for me at this point in time). Add $400 as a topping and you get the Axon 7.
Obviously other people like this phone for other reasons, and they have many other options. Right now only the V30 ticks most of the boxes (i've never seen an LG amoled) but the price is still too high. so i'm hoping for the Axon9.
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where did you buy battery from?
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EBay
It's not available right now, but this is the one I used.
ROG phone is going to be like 1000 dollars. I'm probably going to wait for Axon 9. That is all.
Snapdragon 855 & 8gb ram & still more Laggy than my old & ancient Huawei Honor 8x having the old 970 kirin processor. Google chrome is slow & Laggy. Typing on the keyboard is slow & laggy, Angry Birds from 5 years back is laggy as hell, any suggestion?
I've had the phone for just 3 days, bought from o2 store in the UK.
Anything I can do?
Mine isn't laggy at all, try bench mark the phone and make sure it lines up with some of the scores posted online to rule out any issues
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Snapdragon 855 & 8gb ram & still more Laggy than my old & ancient Huawei Honor 8x having the old 970 kirin processor. Google chrome is slow & Laggy. Typing on the keyboard is slow & laggy, Angry Birds from 5 years back is laggy as hell, any suggestion?
I've had the phone for just 3 days, bought from o2 store in the UK.
Anything I can do?
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It's your setup.
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It's your setup.
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What's that? After restarting the phone it helped but I shouldn't have to restart every day or two due to lag...
Mine isn't laggy at all, it's smooth just like my pixel 3 XL. Likely something you've installed or set the device up with?
Maybe a factory reset if it gets worse?
But very strange, brand new device just several days old.
Very minimal applications. Every day or two I must restart the device as the longer its used for the laggier it gets.
Even typing this message using Swift Key keyboard is laggy...
Never ever had this before with 20+ other Android devices. I've used much cheaper phones & even mid rangers being much faster.
I don't have any rogue applications. Any suggestion apart from factory reset?
kanej2006 said:
But very strange, brand new device just several days old.
Very minimal applications. Every day or two I must restart the device as the longer its used for the laggier it gets.
Even typing this message using Swift Key keyboard is laggy...
Never ever had this before with 20+ other Android devices. I've used much cheaper phones & even mid rangers being much faster.
I don't have any rogue applications. Any suggestion apart from factory reset?
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I would factory reset and test. Once you're okay with everything, load one of your apps. Test.
This diagnostic route would be the best way to determine the issue.
Let me know how you get on
^ Thank you moozer, I'll do a factory reset & see how it goes...
moozer said:
I would factory reset and test. Once you're okay with everything, load one of your apps. Test.
This diagnostic route would be the best way to determine the issue.
Let me know how you get on
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As I thought even after a factory reset it's laggy as hell.
Web browsing is choppy, games and even texting.
I'll return the device & never again buy any OPPO product. I'll buy the Xiaomi K20 Pro having 12Gb ram & 512GB storage for just £380.
It's ridiculous having an OPPO Reno 5g having Snapdragon 855 & 8Gb ram yet laggy as ever.
kanej2006 said:
As I thought even after a factory reset it's laggy as hell.
Web browsing is choppy, games and even texting.
I'll return the device & never again buy any OPPO product. I'll buy the Xiaomi K20 Pro having 12Gb ram & 512GB storage for just £380.
It's ridiculous having an OPPO Reno 5g having Snapdragon 855 & 8Gb ram yet laggy as ever.
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That's annoying and such a shame. Return it to seller for replacement. Shouldn't be like that at all. Don't give up on OPPO - best device I've had (although that K20 is a bit peachy at that price. I paid £380 for 10x)
moozer said:
That's annoying and such a shame. Return it to seller for replacement. Shouldn't be like that at all. Don't give up on OPPO - best device I've had (although that K20 is a bit peachy at that price. I paid £380 for 10x)
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Wow, £380 is really good. I paid almost £750 because it was the 5G version, contract of course...
kanej2006 said:
Wow, £380 is really good. I paid almost £750 because it was the 5G version, contract of course...
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Laptops direct
I got mine for £440 at the last Black Friday sale from CPW - it's an excellent device and as other have said, have absolutely no performance issues whatsoever. It flies!
Just patiently waiting for ColorOS 7 ...