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Anyone using any audio mods , if so which ones and how well do they work? I'm coming from the HTC One which has great headphone/speakerphone audio quality. I'm not too concerned about speakerphone as I use headphones most of the time.
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Viper4android is the best on any devise
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Viper4android is the best on any devise
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Isn't that a flashable zip? Is there an option to flash in stock recovery since the Verizon variant doesn't have TWRP or CWM?
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http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25
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Isn't that a flashable zip? Is there an option to flash in stock recovery since the Verizon variant doesn't have TWRP or CWM?
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no, it installs as a APK. follow instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
If you're looking for a Volume Booster, this worked very well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2819821*
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Ive already tried Viper Audio. It doesnt work. Yes i am rooted, yes i installed busybox and yes the driver installed. It doesnt work even if your check the "force" box.
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Ive already tried Viper Audio. It doesnt work. Yes i am rooted, yes i installed busybox and yes the driver installed. It doesnt work even if your check the "force" box.
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And you enabled speaker boost and adjusted the max speaker gain?
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Ive already tried Viper Audio. It doesnt work. Yes i am rooted, yes i installed busybox and yes the driver installed. It doesnt work even if your check the "force" box.
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It worked for me but, no significant change in regard to loudness. As far as sound quality....big difference.
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Ive already tried Viper Audio. It doesnt work. Yes i am rooted, yes i installed busybox and yes the driver installed. It doesnt work even if your check the "force" box.
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it does work, the g3 just has a great audio output that its hard to tell the difference. you will not get an increase in volume though :crying:
I am an audiophile. I own many thousands of dollars in headphone equipment as well as monitoring equipment. I have been an avid android user and developer since the HTC G1. I use viper4audio not for the speaker output but for the headphone output. The G3 uses the same Amp for the speaker as it does for the headphones. There is no change what so ever when viper4audio is enables to my sound. I use the equalizer ive checked multiple settings, i've even used different audio players to get viper4audio to work on neither the speaker or headphones. What you experiencing is a placebo effect.
I hate to ask such a basic question, but are you guys using the XPOSED framework and have you enabled the viper mod in the framework?
I can assure you this mod works with the G3 (at least the AT&T version - I'll be testing on a verizon version later today). The sound difference can be drastic depending on what mods you turn on and to what levels you set them at.
That brings up another question I guess.... Are you going into the GUI and selecting different mods? Just installing the app won't change anything as nothing is turned on be default. You have to set things up manually.....
Just moved from and S5 and this was one thing I installed first. I can't speak to the headphone jack but bluetooth audio definitely works.
Viper sounds amazing on this phone, I can tell a difference from my s4. Very happy with spotify viper combo
does anyone has a the origina file handy for a verizon LG-G3 handy? I followed the instructions in the op and saved the original file on my sdcard but I ended up buying another sdcard and forgot I had it in the old sdcard. Now I'm scared if I ever going to do a change I don't have the original file to go back to. I'm happy with this mod I just want to have it just in case, thank
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Ive already tried Viper Audio. It doesnt work. Yes i am rooted, yes i installed busybox and yes the driver installed. It doesnt work even if your check the "force" box.
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I am an audiophile as well and viper has been working perfectly for me since day one of rooting my g3. I don't have force enable viper on. I also have the user audio profile installed. And FX compatibility mode is on normal. Do you have yours installed as a system app? I don't.
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I am an audiophile and I always recommend Noozxoide Eizo Rewire Pro. Amazing.
I think viper is the best I notice a big difference in both quality and volume I used a decibel meter on my g2 to compare the difference and with viper I gained on the low end 6 db and on the high end 10db so that's an average of a 8 db gain with viper
I rooted almost specifically to use Viper4Android. Ive noticed that the phone speaker is actually quieter with V4A enabled(probably just settings) but headphone volume/clarity is fantastic. I also came from an HTC One M7, and i have to say, 1 watt does work on this device
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I hate to ask such a basic question, but are you guys using the XPOSED framework and have you enabled the viper mod in the framework?
I can assure you this mod works with the G3 (at least the AT&T version - I'll be testing on a verizon version later today). The sound difference can be drastic depending on what mods you turn on and to what levels you set them at.
That brings up another question I guess.... Are you going into the GUI and selecting different mods? Just installing the app won't change anything as nothing is turned on be default. You have to set things up manually.....
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I can confirm this also. V4A FX 2.3.3.0/Verizon VS985(Rooted) -
Viper always has worked for me on my G3 with and without Xposed framework installed, but always with root. My steps are below, never given me a problem.
V4A version 2.3.3.0 [in Normal (not compatibility) mode, with granted root permissions, Latest version, expert UI, played with SPOTIFY]
Installed by dragging apk from extSD to
dragged to system/apps/
permissions change to rw-r--r--
ownerships changed to root
if its not in my app drawer, i reboot, if it is I go straight to the install of the drivers (both have worked fine for me)
installed V4A driver by granting root
Super Audio Quality
Reboot
Select it as the equalizer in spotify
enjoy
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I rooted almost specifically to use Viper4Android. Ive noticed that the phone speaker is actually quieter with V4A enabled(probably just settings) but headphone volume/clarity is fantastic. I also came from an HTC One M7, and i have to say, 1 watt does work on this device
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Agreed.
Has anyone tried an audio boost to the headphone out volume with V4A Installed? I like to feel my head shake with bass...but am very picky about quality of sound too. I know on my GS4 any audio boost to TW 4.4.2 caused distortion even if using V4A at 50% media volume @ signal strength= moderate \ Max Gain =x4 \ Max output = -1.9db
Using Klipsch S4A buds - anyone got recommendations for earbuds that go well with V4A on the G3? interested to know thoughts, looking for new ones
I probably will never use the DAC feature as i never use wired anything anymore. I have a pair of Bob Marley headphones and a 2014 Kia soul that I use with the v30. This phone seems to put out no bass at all so I tried to get my Bass Booster Pro app that has been working for the last five years for my bass needs and it wouldn't mod any sound. I went around from site to site getting several recommended bass boosting equalizers but not a single one works(oddly). My previous phone the LG G5 didn't have this problem. I am on pandora a lot and cannot find anything to use with it. I use jetaudio for my mp3s and the effects through it are the only ones that I can hear a difference. But when I increase the bass at all it gets distortion from hell. Bass is actually a stress reliever for me and am trying to figure out what I can salvage with this phone or would it be better to just return it?
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I probably will never use the DAC feature as i never use wired anything anymore. I have a pair of Bob Marley headphones and a 2014 Kia soul that I use with the v30. This phone seems to put out no bass at all so I tried to get my Bass Booster Pro app that has been working for the last five years for my bass needs and it wouldn't mod any sound. I went around from site to site getting several recommended bass boosting equalizers but not a single one works(oddly). My previous phone the LG G5 didn't have this problem. I am on pandora a lot and cannot find anything to use with it. I use jetaudio for my mp3s and the effects through it are the only ones that I can hear a difference. But when I increase the bass at all it gets distortion from hell. Bass is actually a stress reliever for me and am trying to figure out what I can salvage with this phone or would it be better to just return it?
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Have you setup the hifi settings? Or does hifi not cut it?
its all disabled when i have my Bluetooth headset connected. Its grayed out and it says, "Please disconnect your Bluetooth device."
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its all disabled when i have my Bluetooth headset connected. Its grayed out and it says, "Please disconnect your Bluetooth device."
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unfortunately the DAC is activated only by cable. regards
i was trying to get another eq to work but none seem to work. Base Booster Pro doesn't even work like it has for the last 5 phones.
i tried a lot still miss viper or dolby but noozxoide eizo-rewire works pretty well with pandora over blutooth. free on the playstore uninstall any other eq apps first
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i tried a lot still miss viper or dolby but noozxoide eizo-rewire works pretty well with pandora over blutooth. free on the playstore uninstall any other eq apps first
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is noozxoide still working fine for you? I've been experiencing random crashes recently
No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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I any get it to work either. I finally gave up.
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it's a bloody shame that the devs stopped supporting the app, I've used and loved it since 2013
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No, I couldn't get it to work. Seems that the DC is overriding all equalizers even when DC is off. I contacted LG about it but all I was sent in response was how to turn DAC on and I already know how to turn it on and off.
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I any get it to work either. I finally gave up.
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Alright, so at least for my case, I uninstalled Noozoxoide, turned my phone off+wipe cache, and changed the app settings for my native audio-processing app so that it is denied notifications, permissions, removed its default status, and cannot change system settings. After that I reinstalled Noozoxoide and launched it. Interestingly, when I went to settings I saw it was already set as a default app. Just to be certain I went ahead and gave it all the permissions also excluded it from battery optimization. Currently, when playing audio, Noozoxoide is listed under running services (in developer options) as "in use" and "started by application". The native app doesn't show up at all, having apparently been excluded from being used. So far Noozoxoide hasn't had any problems with crashing or being taken over by the native app.
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Alright, so at least for my case, I uninstalled Noozoxoide, turned my phone off+wipe cache, and changed the app settings for my native audio-processing app so that it is denied notifications, permissions, removed its default status, and cannot change system settings. After that I reinstalled Noozoxoide and launched it. Interestingly, when I went to settings I saw it was already set as a default app. Just to be certain I went ahead and gave it all the permissions also excluded it from battery optimization. Currently, when playing audio, Noozoxoide is listed under running services (in developer options) as "in use" and "started by application". The native app doesn't show up at all, having apparently been excluded from being used. So far Noozoxoide hasn't had any problems with crashing or being taken over by the native app.
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So what app exactly did you deny notifications, permissions, and remove its default status? The native audio-processing app on my device (Verizon V30) is the Hi-Fi Quad DAC. Can't find an app associated with it anywhere...
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So what app exactly did you deny notifications, permissions, and remove its default status? The native audio-processing app on my device (Verizon V30) is the Hi-Fi Quad DAC. Can't find an app associated with it anywhere...
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simply switching it off doesn't work? can you find it under your system apps in your app manager? It might not be listed as "Hi-Fi Quad DAC" word-for-word.
There's a Nougat Dolby port confirmed working on 8.1 ROMs. Thanks to @roisuke guide (and permission to repost for info) on the LOS15.1 thread summarising steps similar to the original Pixel 2XL guide, which uses the old ARISE N Dolby Atmos zip. In roisuke's post, his/her reason for trying this old Dolby is the newer Dolby boot loops on LOS15.1. In my case I was looking for a better compatible and audio quality Dolby when I found out about it. There's a few reasons i'll group into headings below. I know Dolby speakers that we paid for on stock for our device is a loved feature sought by more than just a few of us. I hope to help improve some people's speaker audio experience like I have, finally rivaling stock performance with V4A extra on top :laugh:
For installation instructions I'll just link roisuke's post, as mine has more to do with settings and usage explanation. I will just add that I had a different issue installing that Dolby zip on RR-O, the process would freeze without an error, requiring a force restart. The zip isn't detected by Magisk Manager and so can't be installed there. I couldn't install the zip when any Magisk version is installed. I ended up having to uninstall Magisk to allow the zip to install to system and then follow up with the other Magisk audio mods installed normally, Viper4Android (i'm on the old 2.3.4.0 for it's Super driver and better graphic equaliser), Ainur Sauron (optional maybe, it claims to improve audio in system and targets Axon 7 as well, I haven't tested this mod without it yet) and lastly Audio Media Library. Also thanks to @Oki for pointing out the hifi DAC patch is necessary with this particular Dolby mod.
Nougat Dolby sounds better
The reasoning is that I've recently been testing custom ROM N Dolby and it sounds just as good as stock N had. While I tested Oreo Dolby ports back when the B32+B10 bootstack was new also just recently too and found it didn't sound as good as N's. Therefore I understand it's not a custom port issue that the new O Dolby sounds worse than N but that it's the updated Dolby itself.
It can work together with V4A
A benefit of this old N Dolby is it is working with current V4A whereas I can't seem to get the new O Dolby to run with V4A, it did when I tested months ago but I can't recreate that either. A benefit to using V4A in combination is it's "Firequalizer" to preset "Small Speakers" accentuates bass and lessens the tinny treble, this is something I used to do back on stock N as well.
It can be configured to set and forget
A little talked about but great feature of stock Dolby is it remembered the settings separately for plugged/unplugged and for each individual app last playing audio too. That made it so good being only on for internal speakers as I preferred and would change settings mode automatically when you stopped audio and started in another app.
Custom ROMs with Dolby ports doesn't remember states, however with a bit of compromise it can be used as such on this N Dolby if you prefer Dolby to only affect internal speakers. The trick is to set no extra filters and EQ in Dolby but just have Dolby enabled. With all other settings off, it still positively affects speaker audio but has no affect on headphone jack audio, you can test this by listening either way while switching on and off. This works combined with the V4A equaliser settings as previously explained. Set rather simply as so, the speaker output has less harsh treble and increased bass to sound similar in presentation to listening on quality headphones.
Extra notes
A shortcoming bug with this N Dolby port however is the Surround Virtualisation feature doesn't work on speakers. It seems reversed and only works when plugged in, I find it best to leave it off as preferred and it will stay off. This bug is unfortunate as the surround was always nice in my opinion, but it's only one loss compared to all the other gains. For what it's worth I couldn't audibly hear a benefit of the surround feature on the O port in my limited testing. Also consider if using the O port where the effects are all somewhat changed for worse in my opinion, it also has to be manually switched off afterwards to not affect plugged audio unlike with the workaround available in the N port. In terms of comparing missing new features, the Oreo version has a bass boost toggle and a dynamic setting, overall though I couldn't settle on an audio setup I liked with any Oreo Dolby settings.
Conclusion
I hope my experience will help others to finally get the most out of their speakers with Dolby and V4A. Since moving from stock N to custom Oreo in early April left me disappointed in O Dolby quality usage issues, I'd stopped using it and relied only on V4A's Speaker Optimisation setting for improving the speakers as a compromise but it always left me wanting in comparison. However now recently finally figuring all this out, i'll be using this for the forseeable future. I really adore the loud unbeatable quality Dolby speaker output for general listening, I mean even a dozen meters away it sounds transformed like a good dedicated mini speaker is playing. This coming from someone who appreciates listening on premium headphones too.
Nice work ofcourse but i dont agree nougat dolby sounds better. In dolby oreo there is more to adjust also
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Nice work ofcourse but i dont agree nougat dolby sounds better. In dolby oreo there is more to adjust also
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It depends on your ears (or beliefs) I guess. Regardless if you've preference for O or N's Dolby, there's still good reason to use the N port. Mainly that it's able to be set and forget and also it's working with V4A aiding it too without issue.
So after reading your guide I liked the idea of a "set and forget" approach and chose certain presets for fireequalizer while in headset (bass booster) or speaker (small speakers) modes; also I changed v4a to the older version since I was unaware of its "super driver". However in the Dolby app I chose to leave on the "intelligent eq open" because to my ears the sound came across "fuller" if that makes sense.
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So after reading your guide I liked the idea of a "set and forget" approach and chose certain presets for fireequalizer while in headset (bass booster) or speaker (small speakers) modes; also I changed v4a to the older version since I was unaware of its "super driver". However in the Dolby app I chose to leave on the "intelligent eq open" because to my ears the sound came across "fuller" if that makes sense.
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I'd recommend Dolby's extra customisations to be off because they remain active when plugged in. Unless of course you like any of its setting for both plugged and speaker. Relying on V4A for separated audio modifications fits well, you could try playing around trying to improve settings there if desired.
I used to prefer Rich in Dolby with Small Speakers in V4A together with Surround Virtualisation. Now with SV unavailable, I assume the EQ effects in Dolby are less pronounced because I can't notice much of positive difference with them on. When the issue being the setting will affect plugged too, it's a small worthwhile loss turning them off for the automated convenience.
Your headset preferences will totally depend on your headphone hardware and listening preferences. From my reading and understanding it's better to only use an EQ to reduce Frequency Response range positive peaks. Never to increase EQ as that introduces artificial noise. I'll attach two screenshots showing my hifi headphones FR graph and the V4A EQ I use to show what I mean (EQ graph doesn't match scale, zoom in to see the tiny DPI X Y values). The green line is the ideal neutral target FR with bass effect for headphones. Note when adjusting V4A's graphic equaliser the range of each frequency band is only shown on the old original 2.3.4.0 version.
Obviously mobile speakers are different in severely lacking bass, accuracy and need the bass EQ boost regardless of accuracy.
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@roisuke, It works as expected using Magisk 16.7. I did in another order and it also worked:
1. V2A FX 1.6.9 or later (I've tested old and current versions)
2. Sauron MK II.II 02.05.2018 or later (I've tested old and current versions)
3. BQ-E4 Dolby ATMOS (Dolby-Oreo.zip)
4. AML 1.7 or later (I've tested old and current versions).
I've noticed the flashing order is irrelevant as long as AML is the last one (It is intented to be always the last module to gather all the audio configs). It works with any install option of V2A (I prefer 2.5.0.5 traditional interface).
I believe the flashing of the ARISE module reroutes the audio paths and disables the hifi DAC when the BQ-E4 Dolby ATMOS is installed. I suspect it because the quality is vastly improved only if, at the end, I flash the Mixer_AK4490.zip to restore the HiFi DAC wiring paths.
These are great news since in Oreo I haven't found a way to have DA and V4A together.
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It works with any install option of V2A (I prefer 2.5.0.5 traditional interface).
I believe the flashing of the ARISE module reroutes the audio paths and disables the hifi DAC when the BQ-E4 Dolby ATMOS is installed. I suspect it because the quality is vastly improved only if, at the end, I flash the Mixer_AK4490.zip to restore the HiFi DAC wiring paths.
These are great news since in Oreo I haven't found a way to have DA and V4A together.
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I already listed why I prefer 2.3.4.0. I didn't mention in general UI the newer versions hide settings behind presses, makes it harder to use and see for example the selected EQ visual profile.
I was focused on speakers so actually hadn't tested jacked audio expecting it to just continue hifi as always on newer bootstacks. I thought Ainur Sauron is supposed to include the DAC patch as @Skrem339 added Axon 7 mods to it, he's also the author of the AK4490 DAC patch in question.
In any case I gave jacked audio some testing. I immediately found with the DAC patch there's static noise when booting jacked in and charging, but it phased out after replugging power, further testing for this may be necessary. After a few short install uninstall tests audio comparison, quality does sound improved. Thanks for mentioning that detail.
Here's the DAC patch thread with system and systemless. I updated the OP with this detail. Systemless only installs through TWRP still by the way. Small note worth mentioning though maybe unrelated is my fingerprint sensor stopped working after installing the Magisk patch, but worked again after uninstalling and reinstalling (a reset may have been enough).
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I already listed why I prefer 2.3.4.0. I didn't mention in general UI the newer versions hide settings behind presses, makes it harder to use and see for example the selected EQ visual profile.
I was focused on speakers so actually hadn't tested jacked audio expecting it to just continue hifi as always on newer bootstacks. I thought Ainur Sauron is supposed to include the DAC patch as @Skrem339 added Axon 7 mods to it, he's also the author of the AK4490 DAC patch in question.
In any case I gave jacked audio some testing. I immediately found with the DAC patch there's static noise when booting jacked in and charging, but it phased out after replugging power, further testing for this may be necessary. After a few short install uninstall tests audio comparison, quality does sound improved. Thanks for mentioning that detail.
Here's the DAC patch thread with system and systemless. I updated the OP with this detail. Systemless only installs through TWRP still by the way. Small note worth mentioning though maybe unrelated is my fingerprint sensor stopped working after installing the Magisk patch, but worked again after uninstalling and reinstalling (a reset may have been enough).
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This patch is useless for Roms based on Android 8 because DAC works on them without patch. Also, this DAC patch was remove from Ainur by my request to Ultra8
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This patch is useless for Roms based on Android 8 because DAC works on them without patch. Also, this DAC patch was remove from Ainur by my request to Ultra8
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For some reason the DAC patch is required after installing the Dolby Atmos patch mentioned in the OP, even in Oreo ROMs.
Hi @Infy_AsiX, can you give a link to the exact Nougat dolby port module which you are using on Oreo together with the 2.3.4.0 v4a? I tried all Oreo versions but they give me bootloop on S8 device, thanks
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Hi @Infy_AsiX, can you give a link to the exact Nougat dolby port module which you are using on Oreo together with the 2.3.4.0 v4a? I tried all Oreo versions but they give me bootloop on S8 device, thanks
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Following the installation links brings you to Pixel 2 XL guide with the download. But here's a link to that Pixel2XL guide anyway https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/viper-dd-atom-t3724096
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Great [emoji3] works fine on Havoc Treble Oreo
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For some reason the DAC patch is required after installing the Dolby Atmos patch mentioned in the OP, even in Oreo ROMs.
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did you made Dolby working on treble ROM ? (I m on latest Havoc) because I've followed the OP (not the patch that did not install) but Dolby app quit, w/o message, after 1s. Just the nice logo
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did you made Dolby working on treble ROM ? (I m on latest Havoc) because I've followed the OP (not the patch that did not install) but Dolby app quit, w/o message, after 1s. Just the nice logo
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Well, I havent tried it in a Treble ROM. I don't play games or watch ATMOS movies. For Youtube, music and general audio, Viper4Android provides more features and richness to the sound so I don't use ATMOS at all. For external speakers I only notice more volume and some equalization, and I also have that configured in V4A in the speakers section. Treble roms are tricky. V4A is awesome when used properly.
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Well, I havent tried it in a Treble ROM. I don't play games or watch ATMOS movies. For Youtube, music and general audio, Viper4Android provides more features and richness to the sound so I don't use ATMOS at all. For external speakers I only notice more volume and some equalization, and I also have that configured in V4A in the speakers section. Treble roms are tricky. V4A is awesome when used properly.
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Do you mind sharing your settings? I used Atmos on dynamic setting in my car with Android Auto and Spotify. Car never sounded better. I'm now on treble with PixelExperience P and stuck with Viper. Sounds ok, but the dynamic system makes the sound go in and out.
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Do you mind sharing your settings? I used Atmos on dynamic setting in my car with Android Auto and Spotify. Car never sounded better. I'm now on treble with PixelExperience P and stuck with Viper. Sounds ok, but the dynamic system makes the sound go in and out.
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I use V4A 2.5.0.5 with the classic interface with these settings:
Master Pwr ON
Playback Gain Control: ON
Extreme
4x
-1.9 dB
Spectrum Extension: ON
0.37
Dynamic System: ON
Common Earphone v2
25%
Viper Clarity: ON
Natural
6.0 dB
The rest is off, even the EQ
Been meaning to ask, @Oki. Your settings above are for headphones, right?
The Axon 7 isn't my daily driver so I don't use headphones with it much as I don't carry it around. Been trying to get some good speaker settings, mostly for locally stored music and occasional streaming video.
On this Nougat ROM Dolby Atmos and Viper 2.6.0.5 are working well together. In AEX 5.4 Oreo the two are also working but not necessarily together. A long time ago someone posted custom FireEQ settings which I still use but the other stuff not too sure about.
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Has anyone got Dolby to work on LOS 15.1?
EDIT: Never mind, got it working by going to the pixel 2xl forum for it
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Has anyone got Dolby to work on LOS 15.1?
EDIT: Never mind, got it working by going to the pixel 2xl forum for it
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Are you on the latest nightly los 15.1? Dolby just crashes for me now on latest
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Are you on the latest nightly los 15.1? Dolby just crashes for me now on latest
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I'm on the latest LOS official 15.1 . I used the zip called "Dolby-Oreo.zip" the one for BQ.
Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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Hey all! Just bought the 7.1 from B&H for $349 to replace my Moto g5 plus which is full of issues. One thing I will miss is being able to install V4A (Viper equalizer). I can tune the settings and make my Bluetooth to car connection sound a hell of a lot better than actually changing the settings on the head unit. Was wondering if there was a stock (or built in) EQ for the Nokia 7.1 that I can use to tune Spotify, YouTube, etc. or if I'll have to download a crappy EQ app off of the play store. Is there a built in EQ, or even better, a way to install V4A on this phone without TWRP? Thanks!
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There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
tibman said:
There is a way to change the Bluetooth codec in the dev menue, not the same as an EQ but wouldn't you want the signal to transfer as true as possible and use your speaker source EQ?
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Yeah I got the phone, saw the stuff in the devs. To answer everyone's question, there is a built in EQ, but you have to open Spotify to use it (not sure if GPM or Pandora work). It's not terrible, but certainly not as good as V4A. And to respond to your question, I don't think the signal transfer is really touched with an EQ. The EQ adds bass and lets me adjust my mids to the way I like them. Like I said, my head unit is garbage. The EQ practically does nothing to improve bass or mids. At first I thought it was the speakers but it isn't. Thats why I wanted a built in EQ on my phone, until I get a new head unit at least.
I upgraded from a V35 to a V60 and an very happy with the audio quality.
However, I listen to classic rock. Now I find that either Android, LG or Verizon has limited the LG V60's volume to 75% while using plug-in headset earphones and/or plug-in earbuds.
After two months of phone calls, in person visits to Verizon and web seatching there is nothing that can be done from a user perspective, that I can find. I've tried a couple of "volume booster" apps with zero success.
I've found this limitation using LG's earbuds, every set of earbuds I own, and, with Beyerdynamic 770's (250 ohm, Note, after reading reviews, I assumed the V60 would drive those 770's w/o issue). The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
I've seen mention of "Poweramp" in other audio related threads, used in the thread to boost output from 48khz to 192khz, which should be amazing. But there are several similarly named apps...my guess is the aforementioned app is "PowerAmp Full Version Unlocker", for $5.49. Would this help volume as well?
Is there anyway to defeat this limitation?
Even a 10% increase would be satisfactory.
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
svetius said:
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes, no effect.
I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Yes, no effect.
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Hmm....I know this kind of sucks, but how about an external DAC? Those usually work via USB C and can provide very loud, very clean output.
Op is using a DAC.
The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
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I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Thanks. It seems an app will be the solution. And I've seen Neutron Player mentioned in other threads.
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
Mojo1114 said:
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
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Correct!
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And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
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Right, so Neutron has another setting (and it could be Android too, not sure), that starts the app automatically when you connect headphones. Or at least it offers to start, and you can easily accidentally tap it when it pops up. I wanted to bypass my tablet's volume when I connected my external DAC, since that has a hardwire volume control so I enabled that 'bypass device's volume' control. However, later when I went to use my tablet to watch a quick video I plugged in my every day earphones, probably tapped Neutron player unintentionally, and it started playing at max volume. On my V60 phone that probably isn't super loud, especially from what you're saying. However on my Samsung tablet it was screaming loud. It happened long enough ago that I've forgotten the exact circumstances.
Anyway, that control doesn't permanently bypass the phone's volume control. You can shut it off, and I can't say for sure if it has any affect on other apps. I only made that mistake once. Later I realized the volume in Neutron was loud enough with my DAC connected. The internal volume may well be bypassed automatically. I guess I need to listen to some music again through this rig soon to test it out. Unfortunately for both of us that won't be tonight.
Mojo1114 said:
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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I haven't used PowerAmp since it first came out in the early 2000s with the advent of MP3s. But chances are it is more intuitive than Neutron Player. I'm a professional audio engineer by trade & tech nerd, yet still get caught up in the menus and different screens all the time. If it didn't sound so good and stream DSD files right along side PCM audio, and stream my entire music collection from my NAS, I'd kick it right to the curb.
My pleasure. Hope this helps! Cheers.
Any real solution for this yet? I think it can be bypassed with root access to the build prop or the sound mixer found in system/vendor/etc.
Any rooted user care to check?
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
hooutoo said:
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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It should be in one of those two files. Most likely the sound mixer file though. I don't know exactly how the entry will look but i would guess something like "headphone volume limitations = max 75"
Change 75 to 100 save and reboot.
Again this is all just guesswork I'm not a developer and haven't rooted this particular phone yet and likely won't unless we get a custom aosp.