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Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
I have been having this same issue on rooted stock gs4. It's temperamental when it comes to root I've noticed. One day I was able to turn it app off of auto start and when I installed a new app it wouldn't let me do it and su says I'm granted
I'm experiencing the same issues. Auto Start Manager is the only feature that has this issue.
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yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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I always face this issue also, what I do as a temporary fix is, go to the SuperSU app, then "Forget" Clean Master, open Clean Master and try to disable an app from Auto starting, grant root and the app will be disabled I hope it works for you too
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
Unfortunately this does not work for me.
I have granted root access according to SuperSU Pro however when trying to stop autostarting apps in Clean Master it reminds me to allow access.
I even get a popup massage from SU stating that the app got granted root access.
Whats happening here? Does anyone have a work around?
Deleting Cleanmaster in SuperSU doesnt help. It is always the same unfortunately.
Best Regards
J
I too also have problems with the autostart function in Clean Master on my Optimus Zone II
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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I can't argue over this. Best options for you 1. Root Cleaner (high priority) 2. SD Maid Pro (medium priority)
See the difference yourself.
fix?
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here?²
hey..the main culprit is supersu app
yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Clean master root access
wow. cool...,ill try that,
thanx
it's supersu problem
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I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
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Just go thru my above post..it will definitely work..so give it a try... flashing new supersu 2.49 resolved the problem for me.?
Yep its working again. I tried 2.48 cuz somebody said it worked for them, but i had no luck there. 2.49 did the trick, thx for letting us know in the thread.
tycoon78[stoner] said:
Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
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Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip
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The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
Ahhh! Thank you so much tycoon! It works for me after updating super user!
QUOTE=Alison.Souza;60674697]Its working for me too.
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DerDoktorEsq said:
The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
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I just rooted my s6 edge and was having the same issue with 2.46. Luckily when I updated to 2.49, I was unable to block the autostartup apps.
None of my apps have root access and I've installed several SU programs. I can't enable Write access in file explorer ES b/c that requires root access and when I open superSU it says it needs to be updated but neither selecting normal install neither install with CWRP updates SuperSU. What did I do wrong with the rooting process? Anyone else had this problem.
From what I have read CM no longer comes rooted it needs to be rooted with a separate process. I do not know why?
You need to give root access to apps and adb--no need for SU any more. The setting is under "Developer Options".
thanks
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You need to give root access to apps and adb--no need for SU any more. The setting is under "Developer Options".
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I already sold the way old barnes and noble tablet. I'll try that when I root my samsung S2 tablet. I'm waiting for android 6.0 version of CM to be released if it hasn't already.
I rooted my phone using kingroot before and after removing al root authorization i found that kingroot has been installed as system app
also whenever i open the kingroot app it restarts my phone
how could i completely remove it
there's also the problem of the phone not able to connect to google play store (no connection, cannot login account)
my phone is NTT Docomo Sony Xperia SO-O4E
tried factory reset twice, deleting cached apps data, still doesnt work
a basic rundown on how it all happened :
-uninstall some bloatware from phone
-phone starts to restart randomly
-deleted cached apps data, no more random restart
-remove kingroot root auth and uninstall
-found out that phone cannot connect to play store, also kingroot has installed itself as system app
anonweeb said:
I rooted my phone using kingroot before and after removing al root authorization i found that kingroot has been installed as system app
also whenever i open the kingroot app it restarts my phone
how could i completely remove it
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If your bootloader is already unlocked, the easiest way would be to restart the phone in fastboot mode, then boot (you don't need to flash it) TWRP and install SuperSU from a flashrecovery zipfile. This will remove kingroot app and running processes (mind you, there may be some dead kingroot traces left over on the filesystem - if you want to remove these too, you'll have to do so from a shell with root permissions). I haven't tried this with the Sony Xperia ZR/NTT Docomo Sony Xperia A (SO-04E), but it seems to work with most phones that are supported by TWRP. I wrote a short guide on how to do this (it's for a different device but these steps should be mostly generic if you have the necessary prerequisites in place).
Another good thing about SuperSU is that if you don't wish to keep root, it will remove itself cleanly and completely from your system (you'll find the unroot option in the apps settings). If however you would like to keep root, then SuperSU is an app that doesn't spy on you and doesn't phone home (I did a thorough check of the shell script used to install SuperSU and a rough check of the SuperSU apk using strings and wireshark only yesterday and as far as I could tell, it doesn't attempt to do anything malicious or touch files that it doesn't need to touch for its purpose, nor did it start a single internet connection by itself). The automatic NVISO analysis at https://apkscan.nviso.be/report/show/99a7841aa3eeaefa69f767602b0c454c confirms this too. Just saying this in case you decided to move away from root due to spyware concerns.
TWRP is an open source project. Their Homepage is https://twrp.me/
The TWRP image files for your device arel located here https://dl.twrp.me/dogo/
SuperSU homepage is https://www.chainfire.eu/ , the latest flashrecovery zipfile can be found here http://www.supersu.com/download
Both projects also have their own sections here on xda.
SuperSU also has it's own sections here on xda.
there's also the problem of the phone not able to connect to google play store (no connection, cannot login account)
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Was this problem related to the rooting process in any way?
Does your internet access work otherwise?
What happens exactly when you start google play?
hi, thank you for the reply
the phone has only been rooted once with kingroot app, which i have removed (both the supposed app and the root auth), but kingroot app installed itself as system app without my permission and whenever i open the app my phone reboots
i'll try looking for ways to flash the phone
as for the play store, it always show the no connection screen even though i can browse the internet without any problem
i tried following the steps from google help page but it doesnt seem to do anything
i'm thinking that the hosts.txt file cause this so im trying to delete it, but i found no other way to delete it without rerooting my phone
i tried factory reset twice but it doesnt seem to help either
thanks before and sorry for the late reply
EDIT : i dont think i can unlock the bootloader officially so i need an exploit
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EDIT : i dont think i can unlock the bootloader officially so i need an exploit
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In that case, you will have to root first. Once having gained root access you can unlock the bootloader. To root, you can either use the kingroot app you used before (not much to loose, since you already installed it and its spyware the first time, and you will later be able to remove it with SuperSU). Or you can try towelroot, although if your smartphone has seen firmware updates, that will propably no longer work. There may be other, more current options - search trough the Xperia ZR Section.
Once you have root, you can use adb and fastboot to boot the latest TWRP for Sony Xperia ZR, then install the latest SuperSU recovery flashable zip. Using that you can completely remove Kingroot even as a system app and afterwards remove SuperSU itself, which will cleanly uninstall itself via Settings.
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as for the play store, it always show the no connection screen even though i can browse the internet without any problem
i tried following the steps from google help page but it doesnt seem to do anything
i'm thinking that the hosts.txt file cause this so im trying to delete it, but i found no other way to delete it without rerooting my phone
i tried factory reset twice but it doesnt seem to help either
I would try the above first, see if the playstore works again after you SuperSU has completely removed Kingroot (reboot), and if it doesn't take a look at the hosts file. Then uninstall SuperSU when you don't need root anymore...
I can help along with adb/fastboot commands, but you need to root your device first (and install the necessary drivers for your phone on your computer).
Good luck!
Guyz,
On my backup phone, i was messing around and installed kingroot... a total malware.
Then, i formatted by phone and still kingroot is there. Tries deleting from kingroot settings but cant.
Plz inform how the hell shall i completely remove this sh*t?
Not an advanced user hence wont be able to understand complicated removal procedures.
PS: Using Samsung Note 3 Neo
Breadwhatwhat
If your device has root access, you can remove King root with other applications or from the King root settings. Uninstall the application with link2sd. If you can not delete the application, you will have to install the stock rom.
CriCroCra said:
If your device has root access, you can remove King root with other applications or from the King root settings. Uninstall the application with link2sd. If you can not delete the application, you will have to install the stock rom.
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Thanks , but after three dots -> i have option to uninstall OR convert to user app.
Under both i get the same error:
"Link2SD could not obtain root access.
Maybe as i formatted my phone, i am no longer rooted and hence the error.
Also, i tried disabling Kingroot from phones builtin "Applications manager" and yes it seems disappeared from my App list on phone, Is it safe to say its no longer working on my phone even in background ?
craige said:
Also, i tried disabling Kingroot from phones builtin "Applications manager" and yes it seems disappeared from my App list on phone, Is it safe to say its no longer working on my phone even in background ?
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The application that you deactivated will not run again, but if it really was malware, it probably installed other malware applications. I recommend you to do a complete analysis with several antivirus programs starting with Dr. Web.