Hi, i read about the data collection app MLT (LBD) and delete it, now i notice a higher Battery Drain.
I think the System try to restart the App but there is not existing now. And that cause a wakelook in the background.
My question someone delete the app and has disabled the autostart through editing some config in system?
Did you try to freeze it instead?
EDIT: Freezing it made the LDB has stopped working to constantly popup but after restarting I saw reduced battery drain. feels strange hitting the 8 hour screen on time mark. YMMV
I used Titanium Backup.(I also froze mlt.overlay)
You can just go to *#546368*# your model# then go to svc menu/LDB then disable it?
I restore and freeze it.
I feel me Vetter when such apps are deleted.
Nemeziz 56th said:
I restore and freeze it.
I feel me Vetter when such apps are deleted.
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The first option if to delete
Sometimes the second best approach is to actually edit the app to delete the actual code that you hate and make it return useless values(not bad, there's a difference) to what ever calls for the mlt package.
The third is to freeze it. Keeps it intact but I do also hate it existing in my files.
Looks like the third option is the most practical. Especially for system components or Android in general.
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I have some apps that I don't want to remove from my Streak but I don't want them to start up on their own. Examples are Yahoo Messenger and Yahoo Mail. There are others, too. I keep them on the Streak as backups (since I sometimes have problems connecting via IM+ or the regular e-mail app). Therefore I only want them to start up when I open them and stay closed after I have killed them. Is that possible?
I currently use Droid Wall to deny them data access when I don't want to use them but they still run in the background eating up memory and sucking the life out of my battery.
Dont know of anything other than a task killer. Can set the security to your desired level, and also to kill everything when the screen turns off, and also generate an ignore list which is essential for some apps like alarm clock....if you want to get up for work on time. They're a little controversial but I find a notable difference in battery life without it.
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brunswick000 said:
Dont know of anything other than a task killer. Can set the security to your desired level, and also to kill everything when the screen turns off, and also generate an ignore list which is essential for some apps like alarm clock....if you want to get up for work on time. They're a little controversial but I find a notable difference in battery life without it.
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I have a task killer which I use manually. However, when I kill those apps they come right back up only seconds after that. Can't keep those buggers down. And with Auto Kill they are just constantly being killed again and again.
i used to use an app called "autostart(s)" which did the job really well plus it offers loads of options for apps starting at boot and permissions. titanium lets you freeze apps but you need to defrost them before using again.
tina333 said:
lets you freeze apps but you need to defrost them before using again.
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Can you explain this?
tina333 said:
i used to use an app called "autostart(s)" which did the job really well plus it offers loads of options for apps starting at boot and permissions. titanium lets you freeze apps but you need to defrost them before using again.
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Thanks for the suggestion -- I am currently trying out Autostart Kill which seems to work reasonably well, except that some apps are not found by the program (an example is Amazon MP3) and Dell Sync comes up after connecting via USB even though I set it to disabled.
By Titanium I suppose you mean Titanium Backup, but I cannot find a "freeze" (or similar) option, at least not in the free version I am using
Click the app in the list - you will have there freeze option.
It is available in the paid version only
Thanks for all the help, guys.
Finally located that Autostarts app in the market --- had to set market enabler to Verizon to find it. Trying it right now, and it seems to work pretty well.
I hope they're working for you?
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I hope they're working for you?
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Yes, but yesterday I had 3 mysterious auto reboots. Since I had just installed several apps I am not sure which one is the culprit. I have removed some of the others. Now I will have to see what happens today.
i tried autostarts but when the streak goes standby (black screen) it wont come alive anymore and i have to pull the battery out to reboot.... uninstalled
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i tried autostarts but when the streak goes standby (black screen) it wont come alive anymore and i have to pull the battery out to reboot.... uninstalled
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That is strange, works fine for me now. I am on the official 2.2 315 at the moment.
ok, i am on the DJ-Steve 1.4.6
startup manager works for me on "official" 2.2
tina333 said:
i used to use an app called "autostart(s)" which did the job really well plus it offers loads of options for apps starting at boot and permissions. titanium lets you freeze apps but you need to defrost them before using again.
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Thank you! Autostarts is what I want~
Try system tuner
System tuner has free version in market. Will perform many functions including "freeze" and then you can "boil" app when it is needed. Also can set which apps run (or don't) at startup.
hey bro, u can use any autostart killer like autostarts (red car), or u can use autostart disabler inside romtoolbox
it work 100%
Hi,
what does it mean technically if an app is "freezed"? Is the APK moved to another location, or are the unix access rights altered, or is a reference to the app deleted from some kind of "registry" of the Android system, or what else? Can it be done manually by a file manager?
Thanks,
Stefan
It can be done using the purchased version of Titanium Backup and probably a few other apps. It basically renders the app inactive without uninstalling it. Helpful for bloatware that runs in the background but you can't decide if you want to delete it or not.
Thanks, but this was not my question...
lowandbehold said:
It can be done using the purchased version of Titanium Backup and probably a few other apps. It basically renders the app inactive without uninstalling it. Helpful for bloatware that runs in the background but you can't decide if you want to delete it or not.
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Yes, I know, but what does it do exactly on file system level? Doesn't anybody know?
stbi said:
Yes, I know, but what does it do exactly on file system level? Doesn't anybody know?
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Most freezing apps simply rename the app to be frozen with an extension, like in the case of Bloat Freezer (IMHO the best one) the frozen app gets a .bzw extension. It remains in place but of course cannot be executed. The nice part is that if you run into an issue you can just rename the app back to what it was (assuming that you have root).
It works!
docfreed said:
Most freezing apps simply rename the app to be frozen with an extension, like in the case of Bloat Freezer (IMHO the best one) the frozen app gets a .bzw extension. It remains in place but of course cannot be executed. The nice part is that if you run into an issue you can just rename the app back to what it was (assuming that you have root).
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Cool, so simple - thanks! So it can be done with any file manager.
I've just successfully frozen the preinstalled "LGWorld.apk" by renaming it to "LGWorld.apk.bak". As soon as I had done this, a message popped up, saying "Deinstalled", and the icon disappeared from the app drawer, and also the update for "LG World" vanished from the Market app.
Hmm.. freezing doesn't mean rename. It is being remove from system. If.you rename yourself, the apps may failed to work.
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Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent. Essentially the app is deleted from your system completely. However, think of it not as a permanent deletion but rather a reversible one. Should you chose to 'restore' the app, you can defrost the app. You could defrost the app using a microwave but I for one use TB Pro as it does a far better job.
lambstone said:
Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent.
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Haha smart ass.
lambstone said:
Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent. Essentially the app is deleted from your system completely. However, think of it not as a permanent deletion but rather a reversible one. Should you chose to 'restore' the app, you can defrost the app. You could defrost the app using a microwave but I for one use TB Pro as it does a far better job.
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ha ha ha! that was hilarious man
Press THANKS
stbi said:
Hi,
what does it mean technically if an app is "freezed"? Is the APK moved to another location, or are the unix access rights altered, or is a reference to the app deleted from some kind of "registry" of the Android system, or what else? Can it be done manually by a file manager?
Thanks,
Stefan
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Source - How TO Geek
Manufacturers and carriers often load Android phones with their own apps. If you don’t use them, they just clutter your system and sometimes in the background, draining resources. Take control of your device and stop the bloatware.
We’ll be focusing on disabling – also known as “freezing” bloatware here. It’s a safer process than uninstalling the bloatware completely, and is also easier to accomplish with free apps.
Uninstalling vs. Freezing
Uninstalling an app is exactly what it sounds like – the app is entirely removed from your device. Unfortunately, it’s not possible to get many of these preinstalled apps from the Play Store if you ever need them again. Uninstalling some preinstalled apps may result in problems or instability, so you could run into problems.
It’s safer to “freeze” apps instead of uninstalling them. A frozen app is disabled completely – it won’t appear in your app drawer and it won’t automatically start in the background. A frozen app cannot run in any way until you “unfreeze” it. Freezing and unfreezing are instant processes, so it’s easy to undo your changes if you end up freezing a necessary app.
If you really must uninstall apps, you should freeze them first and wait a few days to ensure that your phone or tablet works properly without them.
You can’t uninstall or freeze preinstalled bloatware apps without root access and third-party app managers. Try and you’ll find the options grayed out in the standard Android interface.
klacenas said:
ha ha ha! that was hilarious man
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I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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you can try greenify it will hibernate the apps and hence the app will be available for you any time
donnebonn said:
I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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Another app called greenify. Or using an autostart manager to prevent them from running without ykur intervention.
sangalaxy said:
you can try greenify it will hibernate the apps and hence the app will be available for you any time
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Thx a bunch. I dwld and installed the grenify app and disabled them, however, when I run my task killer the gallery app is always running. I wanted to greenify it, but it's not showing up in the greenify app, even when I did a search for it, it just took me to my home screen. I clicked on the app and it just opened but I didn't see any options to greenify it. Any suggestions? Thx for ur help.
so at the end is freezing and renaming the same thing? no one cleared that up, i usually just rename to BAK and thats it, what does TItanium apart from renaming?
ok i answer myself, freezing is the same as going to app manager, and selecting DISABLE
or from a root terminal using:
pm disable {package_name} (e.g. # pm disable com.android.browser)
wich calls:
/system/bin/pm
wich in turn contains:
# Script to start "pm" on the device, which has a very rudimentary
# shell.
#
base=/system
export CLASSPATH=$base/framework/pm.jar
exec app_process $base/bin com.android.commands.pm.Pm "[email protected]"
what it does is set a flag for a component to some of different values:
COMPONENT_ENABLED_STATE_DEFAULT
COMPONENT_ENABLED_STATE_DISABLED
among others. (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PackageManager.html)
where does it store this flag: I DONT KNOW
is this flag a value inside some manifest/ini file? : IDK
is this flag st in the file system? IDK
can someone show me the light?
edit: I DONT KNOW for sure but i think it stores it in : /data/system/packages.xml
that is generated by package manager taking info fro each app manifest. i hope i am right, but dont take my word as absolute truth since it was a quick google research lol
Renaming the apk file can result in unwanted behaviour... I learned by trial&error! I'm running MIUI 6 and wanted Google Play as default app store and not the MI Market. Renaming the apk file for the Mi Market gave me the result I wanted: launching Google Play whenever I clicked a link to a certain app. But that was until I rebooted the phone... it got stuck on the MI startup logo. After renaming the Mi Market apk file in twrp recovery, my phone booted again.
So might try freezing it to see if it will do the job properly.
Freezing Mi Market with AppFreezer worked like a charm!
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Renaming the apk file can result in unwanted behaviour... I learned by trial&error! I'm running MIUI 6 and wanted Google Play as default app store and not the MI Market. Renaming the apk file for the Mi Market gave me the result I wanted: launching Google Play whenever I clicked a link to a certain app. But that was until I rebooted the phone... it got stuck on the MI startup logo. After renaming the Mi Market apk file in twrp recovery, my phone booted again.
So might try freezing it to see if it will do the job properly.
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Depends what you mean by "renaming." Changing the extension from .apk to .apkold or .bak or something like that will harmlessly freeze the app since it's no longer seen as an apk by the system. Renaming the app itself is another thing entirely.
I renamed the extension to .noapk and Miui wouldn't boot anymore.
Good stuff
I've noticed that Google maps is always taking up a big portion of the battery in the battery menu. If I freeze it with titanium would that make a significant difference? I use it seldom enough to go thru the trouble of unfreezing it when needed if it's worth it..
I have the same problem. The only thing about freezing it is that several apps use it. It couldn't hurt to try though. I believe this is a pretty wide spread problem lately.
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I recommend you download a program called autostarts. it's a great little program that lets you stop apps from booting themselves up. you'd be surprised how often the apps on our devices want to boot themselves for no reason- at startup, when you plug the phone in, when you switch to wifi, etc. autostarts doesn't truly freeze the apps, so you can still open them and use them when you WANT to, it just stops them from running in the background for no reason. saves a lot of RAM and batterylife.
edit- here it is- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
Location Settings
Have you tried modification of the location reporting settings?
In Maps-> Settings-> Location are some settings, disabling them stops the reporting of your device and saves a lot of battery.
Sucky1983 said:
Have you tried modification of the location reporting settings?
In Maps-> Settings-> Location are some settings, disabling them stops the reporting of your device and saves a lot of battery.
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Thanks this will probably do the trick
I wonder if there is a way to prevent some background processes/apps from running instead of constantly killing them? I don't think about using taks killers as they do the same what I can and they also eat memory. I need them apps to run only when I start them. Then I can manually shut them off like I always do, but I don't want them in the backgound processes. For example, even after resetting the phone, I dont use Google Maps at all, but I can see three processes running in background for no reason. And there is more apps behaving in a same way. Of course I don't wanna delete them, because I use them sometimes, some more often, some less.
Any solutions?
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I wonder if there is a way to prevent some background processes/apps from running instead of constantly killing them? I don't think about using taks killers as they do the same what I can and they also eat memory. I need them apps to run only when I start them. Then I can manually shut them off like I always do, but I don't want them in the backgound processes. For example, even after resetting the phone, I dont use Google Maps at all, but I can see three processes running in background for no reason. And there is more apps behaving in a same way. Of course I don't wanna delete them, because I use them sometimes, some more often, some less.
Any solutions?
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Wrong Section btw (This needs to be in Q&A Section)
And freeze them using Titanium Backup or if you don't use them, uninstall it
If I freeze them will I be able to run them intentionally?
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If I freeze them will I be able to run them intentionally?
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No. You have to defreeze them in order to use tgem
If you are talking about system apps, only way to stop their process I know is to uninstall or freeze them
If talking about non-system app, then simply killing them once will stop their process
I'm talking about system apps of course...
blackfire74 said:
I'm talking about system apps of course...
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Then freeze them or uninstall them ofcourse
blackfire74 said:
I wonder if there is a way to prevent some background processes/apps from running instead of constantly killing them? I don't think about using taks killers as they do the same what I can and they also eat memory. I need them apps to run only when I start them. Then I can manually shut them off like I always do, but I don't want them in the backgound processes. For example, even after resetting the phone, I dont use Google Maps at all, but I can see three processes running in background for no reason. And there is more apps behaving in a same way. Of course I don't wanna delete them, because I use them sometimes, some more often, some less.
Any solutions?
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Use Disable Service to disable background services and BE CAREFULL not to disable wrong services. Or programs may not respond to your wishes...
v6 supercharge..
u can try v6 supercharge script..........
grap the script here :-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
otherwise freezing apps & uninstalling them is left for u...
download the app 'autorun manager' frome market..
disable the apps that you don't want them to run in background...
it is best tool available for this problem..it is realy a great app..
but use it with care...if u disable wrong system app then u might see some force closes..
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I have this phone and planning to freeze bloatware to begin with. Problem I'm getting is I don't really know which ones to freeze and which ones I shouldn't
I have TitaniumBackup. It doesn't highlight any of the 'critical' system apps which could rekh the phone. Only one I know I shouldn't disable is the "TouchWiz". There are bunch of 'applications' names in the 'system apps'. some are listed without an icon and just like "com.xxxxxx.xxxx". I don't know if these are safe to disable or not.
Anyone know an app which highlights the critical ones? I don't want to disable like the GSM or Display of the phone via Titanium Backup
Will be following this thread to remove data from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828541
I'm on stock ROM because I value high battery life and camera performance over gaming performance etc.
Regards
Be careful what you disable as most apps on tw devices are reliant on each other.
I disabled a load of them and nearly borked my phone. After a while it got slower and slower.
Hangouts and chaton plug into the system messager, they can be disabled. Apps that plug in to system apps can be disabled safely without fear of killing it just dont disable actual system stuff. Eg Disabling google play services will save you battery but will cause issues with apps and games. You will be disabling very little on tw devices!.
As for camera. The stock app is sh** so use a 3rd party app. Dont disable the stock camera app as system needs it for diagnostics should you ever need to test your device using the factory test app (mmi code).
Basically, go slowly starting with apps that you never use. Disable instead of delete as if you have issues you can restore easily.
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