Stock camera portrait mode. - LG V30 Questions & Answers

I just came back to stock from AIX. I swear that stock camera has a portrait mode for the rear camera (aix did) but it's not showing up. It's there for front camera tho. Is there something I'm forgetting?
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kenbo111 said:
I just came back to stock from AIX. I swear that stock camera has a portrait mode for the rear camera (aix did) but it's not showing up. It's there for front camera tho. Is there something I'm forgetting?
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Latter V30 stock Oreo -- and I suppose stock Pie -- does have a subtle selfie camera portrait mode. Depends a lot on lighting.
V30 AIX is stock firmware on steroids -- even incorporating V35 camera libs -- so it's possible it has more pronounced portrait mode.

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Camera Focus issue

Anyone facing camera focus issue on G5? I am using F700S on Noughat.
And no matter how hard i try, I fail to focus using rear camera. Front cam works fine.
please help.
Same issue here. Seemed to occur after the initial nougat update. Sprint variant. Nothing I do seems to fix it. Read elsewhere, that it is highly probable this could be a mass hardware defect. No confirmation OR denial from LG though.
But which one? The main or the wide-angle one?
The main. Wide angle still works flawlessly - as does the front.
Well, I have Nougat and my main camera is working fine, so as the wide angle. Did you tried resetting your phone?
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Also by the way, when you get in manual mode, switch to wide angle, can you do manual focus? I can't and I dont know, if it's normal or not...
frantisek.vojtech said:
Well, I have Nougat and my main camera is working fine, so as the wide angle. Did you tried resetting your phone?
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Also by the way, when you get in manual mode, switch to wide angle, can you do manual focus? I can't and I dont know, if it's normal or not...
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Now I have got a new G5.. old one i had to sell at a heavy loss. Its camera is working just fine. no issue. Yesterday I upgraded it from MM 6.0.1 to 7 and its working good. Except for fast charging notification, that is lost after the second update of Nougat.. November update..waiting for the next software release with expectation of fix..

Gcam Android Pie REDMI 5 plus [Help]

What is the best gcam for Android pie in Redmi 5 plus??
I Have tested several and none are with the proper quality. Thanks.
Arnova gcam 6.1.021.
Only problem i have is that it doesn't save selfies and portrait gets stuck at editing HDR photo. Everything else is working perfectly and picture quality is really nice. And you also have night mode which makes wonders.
I use
https://www.mediafire.com/download/8b1chhrp8cx26yv
It's the one before all night shot got introduced (it's a Pixel 2 port) but all features work as intended (camera, video, slow-mo, portrait, front and back flash) all stable and nice picture quality.
Night sight in the front camera is not working!!
Whereas in the back camera it does wonders
Is there any workaround?
I am using this and also does not work the front camera.

Forcing always on HDR in the camera app

One of my few complaints about this camera, is the fact that it's one of the few flagships, if not the only one where we don't have an HDR toggle, and that we have to go to a separate mode to force HDR. Why don't they give us the option to choose whether we want it always on? I'll post few pictures down below that showcase how much better the picture looks with HDR vs not having it on, especially when you zoom in, the difference is night and day.
So, is there a way to force it to always be on? Maybe through ADB, and although it's been years since I rooted any of my phones, I would do it in a heartbeat if there's a way to force HDR to always kick in. A donation for someone who can do this is also on the table.
Again, please take your time in checking the amount of detail and colors HDR is able to grab, especially once the telephoto camera kicks in.
Not that I know of, it is one the things that annoyed me since I started using Huawei with P9 and then Honor View 10 before P30 Pro.
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I never get note of this but you are right, i tested the same on my p30 pro and HDR isn't the only thing, images are a lot more sharper on HDR mode when using telelens.
the effect isnt so dramatic when using the normal 40mpix lens but when telelens is used the HDR mode kicks in really good.
Ai does not work with HDR on. That's why I guess
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Brotuck said:
Ai does not work with HDR on. That's why I guess
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But even when AI is switched off, the phone doesn't always shoots in HDR mode.
Flash-User said:
I never get note of this but you are right, i tested the same on my p30 pro and HDR isn't the only thing, images are a lot more sharper on HDR mode when using telelens.
the effect isnt so dramatic when using the normal 40mpix lens but when telelens is used the HDR mode kicks in really good.
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That's because it does automatically use HDR at times, but sometimes when you need it to use HDR, it doesn't, and that's what pisses me off.
What sucks for me is that almost never it uses HDR when shooting in portrait mode, in many instances I end up getting a blown up background when I use portrait mode with a bright light source in the background.
The hardware on this phone is capable of wiping the floor with the Pixel 3, and even their software, it's just that Huawei has been sticking to some dumb choices for years now. All our complaints, and they decide that they don't want to listen to them and do anything about it.
This has been a complaint of mine since the P20 Pro. I do not believe there is a way to force HDR, though I really wish there was!
i think the must put HDR switch on/off in the main camera interface , and the HDR image its a way better then the non HDR image tacking by camera
But the front câmera work on AI HDR ...Crazy !
felipy2k said:
But the front câmera work on AI HDR ...Crazy !
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Ikr? Why don't they give us the same toggle but for the rear cameras as well?
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
EnormoDerClown said:
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
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No the camera did not always shoot in HDR
If you switch the mode i would bet it does, it is not on the main interface but there is a dedicated mode for HDR. I would extremely doubt that this mode has no function
EnormoDerClown said:
To be honest i don´t get you? There is a HDR Mode, the camera will always shoot in HDR, so exactly what you want?
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We want a quick toggle that gives us the option to choose if we want HDR to always be on, auto, or off, just like on almost every other flagship. We don't want separate mode.
Who "we"? It is so simple to choose hdr mode. And if AI is turned on and phone says "keep steady" it means it take hdr shot then.
First is hdr mode and second is AI on in normal auto mode
olafsand said:
First is hdr mode and second is AI on in normal auto mode
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There's no way to compare because one shot was with the primary camera and the second one with the wide-angle...
olafsand said:
Who "we"? It is so simple to choose hdr mode. And if AI is turned on and phone says "keep steady" it means it take hdr shot then.
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Oh I'm sorry, did it bother you that I used the term we?
I'm talking in general, there have been tons of forums about this issue with Huawei's camera app, so I'm not the 1st to complain about it, and I definitely won't be the last. And as you can see in this thread, WE as a majority still find it stupid to put HDR as a separate mode and not a quick toggle, kinda like they did with the AI mode before, until they changed it the past few months. Now, if you have no issues with this, good for you, and this forum isn't clearly for you.
And two, I posted images with AI on vs HDR on, and if you can't see the results, then that's on you.
I want this feature too... HDR always ready on Main Camera, HDR+ will be much awesome...
Another app?
Isn't any other camera app for P30 Pro that does a better job?

V30 camera quality?

When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
Well yes, realistically the S10e does have a better camera, especially if you're using the V30's stock camera app.
would the 10e app be able to go on the v30?
akira022 said:
would the 10e app be able to go on the v30?
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You can't use the 10e app on the v30, I was talking about the GCam port. Still even then, I think 10e should be better. Maybe not by much, but it's simply just a superior sensor.
Got it, thank you very much ^_^
adsubzero said:
Well yes, realistically the S10e does have a better camera, especially if you're using the V30's stock camera app.
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adsubzero said:
You can't use the 10e app on the v30, I was talking about the GCam port. Still even then, I think 10e should be better. Maybe not by much, but it's simply just a superior sensor.
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The stock camera app is way better then G-Cam port.
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akira022 said:
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
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Have you tried putting on AI? These are old photo just trying out the AI. It's backed up to Google photos at reduced quality.
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BROKEN1981 said:
The stock camera app is way better then G-Cam port.
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Most definitely not. It has more features, it has a manual mode and the video is unarguably better, but the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a single scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was better.
adsubzero said:
Most definitely not. It has more features, it has a manual mode and the video is unarguably better, but the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a single scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was better.
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Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!
If it was sooooo good, custom ROM's users would not be begging for the stock LG camera app to get ported.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!
If it was sooooo good, custom ROM's users would not be begging for the stock LG camera app to get ported.
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Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
adsubzero said:
Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
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We agree to disagree.
I personally want to take the best photos I can, so I use stock LG camera app. Many others who run custom ROM's feel the same and would rather have the LG camera app then G-Cam.
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adsubzero said:
Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't support 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
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Gcam has historically had issues. Green tint on front camera, slow to process successive shots. Crashing. No seamless switching between lenses.
None of that applies or has ever applied to LG camera.
I've kept up with all the threads. I'm the one who told cstark to start his own camera thread since so much interest was being shown for his versions. Exciting times back then.
Yes, those problems are being/have been addressed in most recent Gcam versions -- but it's also a pain to find those versions that work.
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Stock LG camera of course has manual mode. See screenshot. For ease of use + excellent pictures, LG camera is better than any Gcam.
There are some instances (low light) you can take superior pictures to LG cam -- but I've seen tons of side by side shots on LG V30 Telegram thread where LG cam was as good as Gcam. You could not tell the difference.
IF you can have two cameras, sure -- add Gcam also if you want to experiment. But I will NEVER have Gcam as my only camera on my LG V30.
If I can only have one camera, I want LG camera. But on custom ROMs, you can only have one camera and it can NOT be LG camera.
One of the most frequent questions in the custom ROM threads is "how do I get LG camera back?"
I used to run custom ROMs all the time, but on those previous phones I could still have the stock camera also.
I understand the interest in Gcam, and the expectation porting it will come same superior camera capability Pixels have.
But I don't take a lot of low light time lapse pictures. I keep my LG camera in AI auto mode and I'm using Anxious V30 camera mods., which give me advanced features of G8/V40. So, it's not exactly "stock" LG camera.
I'm sorry guys, but it seems that my experience has been very different to yours. I couldn't find a single scenario where the stock app had a better photo.
Comparable? Yes. But in most of the cases the Gcam had more accurate colors, better dynamic range (losing less detail in shadows and highlights), and just overall more detailed photo when pixel peeping.
This is when using the new AI mode, otherwise there was no competition, since the stock cam can't even get close to the google's HDR+. And in the night? Yeah, the Gcam trumps it.
If you can prove me wrong, please do, I'm really interested. Make a comparison.
I'll also see if I can snap a few interesting photos.
Ok, here are two series of photos. You be the judge.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now first of all, let me just say the AI mode surprised me a little bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll not even compare it.
In the first series of photos there's not much difference really, but you can see more details in the GCam , especially in the building in the distance, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, but the colors are much better and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.
Now for a wide angle shot.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now here is what I'm talking about. I cannot find a single way in which the stock cam is better than GCam here.
It's not even a comparison. If you have better eyes, please point it out for me.
akira022 said:
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to up the quality or does the 10e just have a better camera?
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Samsung and LG compete with each other for best camera -- with Pixels and iPhones also. At least best rear camera. Long been noted the 2017 V30 selfie camera was not great -- but LG did improve it with software updates (portrait mode, etc) in latter Oreo updates compare to Nougat release.
However, the Samsung Galaxy S10e is a 2019 phone. It's probably going to be somewhat better, because better technology. But LG V30 camera is still good. If your pictures look horrible in comparison, maybe something is wrong with your phone?
Also, what firmware are you using? You want at least the latest Oreo firmware for the camera upgrades vs Nougat.
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adsubzero said:
Ok, here are two series of photos. You be the judge.
GCam HDR+:
Stock Auto:
Stock AI:
Now first of all, let me just say the AI mode surprised me a little bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll not even compare it.
In the first series of photos there's not much difference really, but you can see more details in the GCam , especially in the building in the distance, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, but the colors are much better and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.
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I use AI Auto mode, and I use Anxious V30 mod -- which ported features from G8/V40. So, my LG Camera is not fully stock.
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PREFACE
I work professionally in broadcast video. I have been a video editor and producer. My job right now involves QC of video content from a variety of TV networks -- so I have seen a lot of video effects, processing. I understand cinematographers on films sometimes want a washed out, darker look if the script deals with depressing content. ("The Accidental Tourist" used muted color scheme because the protagonist shut down his emotions due to murder of his son and subsequent divorce. Yet an amazing movie.) I understand brighter, more vibrant colors are called for in adventure movies like "Romancing the Stone". Both of these are creative decisions.
Yet, I also know big box stores sell HD TVs under fluorescent lighting in "demo" mode where all colors are oversaturated because the the display with the most color is deemed the "winner". When I get a new TV home or help a friend with a new TV, I have to calibrate the brightness, colors and chroma intensity to be "realistic" so content can be viewed how it was actually meant to be seen.
I worked for YEARS for a worldwide news organization, so when I see their news studios on TV I know exactly how they should look based upon seeing them in real life.
My point is, I'm an amateur photographer, but I have professional experience in a related field.
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You noted the first series of photos don't have much difference, but that's the only ones I have had time to look at. I'm not ignoring the 2nd set, I will look at them later.
I'm only going to discuss GCam and the AI Cam, which is what I use.
On my desktop PC monitor with "full resolution" of the pictures chosen on that website, between the two:
The parked red car looks the same in both. The parked green car looks the same in both.
TIE.
The yellow building facade looks more "vibrant" yellow in GCam -- but without seeing in person, is it really that brighter shade or is it the slightly duller shade in real life? Plus, it is an overcast day.
Do you WANT the yellow facade to "POP" out like that compared to the surrounding buildings, if it doesn't naturally? If so, then that's a creative decision.
The green foliage on the left and right and on the bushes down the street look more "realistic" green, more "natural" with LG Camera. My opinion. The Gcam looks slightly off. But again, I did not see the scene in person. POSSIBLE WIN FOR LG CAM.
Since my tendency is toward realistic, you see what I'm getting at?
Now if these were "dusk" shots and you wanted to compensate for the lower light, the brighter facade would win and the off-color of the foliage wouldn't matter so much.
I will have to look at the other set of pictures later.
While I was intensely interested in GCam (I was there at the beginning here in V30 forum when cstark make his ports), the issues really bothered me: Green tint on front camera (aka perpetual "Matrix" mode), slow to process or crashing on quick successive shots. No seamless switching between lenses. Early editions needed three different shortcuts to launch which camera you wanted!
One of the most frequent questions besides how to get LG Camera on custom ROMs was how to find a good version of GCam with the least problems. I've actually helped people with that based on other users recommendations, but I also understood it was because those people were FORCED to use Gcam.
Due to all this I decided a long time ago when I needed to take a picture, I was going with the trusted stock camera.
In the meanwhile, LG kept improving the stock camera with Oreo updates (use at least the last Oreo) and then TotallyAnxious released her Magisk mod which included LG stock camera features/improvements based on G8/V40 updated camera. She kept improving that with updates through the months.
I understand most recent Gcam versions (last couple of months) have solved the early issues, but for me I don't see any reason to switch.
@ChazzMatt Just wanted to discuss these points:
- Both the red and the green car are oversaturated on the AI cam.
- The GCam's white balance is much closer to true life (I was there lol), AI cam is way off.
- The yellow parts are oversaturated on the GCam, that's true, but the AI cam is not accurate either, it's more like something in between. Though I could have toned down the saturation in the GCam settings, I prefer it this way.
- If you open up the photos in a new window (after loading the full res) then you will actually get the full resolution. Zoom in and you start to pick up differences, eg. how the AI cam just destroys the detail in some parts of the photo, as I said in the first post.
I know you said you prefer the realistic look, but in these two series of photos, the stock cam is all over the place with the white balance and saturation is not accurate either (just check the blue street sign in the second photo and also the cars).
The greens on the trees do look more accurate on the stock cam, but that's about it, as I see it.
I'll always take better details, but in these examples the stock doesn't beat GCam with the overall accuracy either.
The GCam did have a lot of issues in the beggining but a couple of latest versions work perfectly without any issues I could find.
If not being able to swith lenses while the image is processing is an issue, then I guess there's that, lol.
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And this is all day time photography, at night the GCam is on a whole new level.
I like the way Gcam does HDR+ highlights. I do not like the black crush. ( I am still fooling with settings to address this)The pictures tend to be vivid though, (and i think, a bit more compelling) from the gcam. I do not expect photos from a phone to supplant those from a proper camera, but I would eke out the best quality I can. I took a quick photo in the front yard with stock cam, and gcam in HDR, and HDR+ respectively. You can see some nasty color banding in the LG in the sky, very unnatural.
These were taken with the G7. I have not yet picked a gcam for the v30. That is unless Mr. Chazz could be convinced to part with an Anxious module.... By the way, if video is important to you at all, I encourage you to try opencam, and the HEVC codec. Worlds of difference in clarity. In particular, the wide camera stock nearly looks out of focus in comparison to opencam.

Front Camera with Stock App

Anyone knows why LG V60 Front Camera in Stock App is so much horrible that it is non usable as compared to GCam front Camera?
and why it always starts with beauty mode?
P.S even LG G8 Front Camera in Stock App is far better than LG V60 Stock App.

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