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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
STIDRIVER said:
Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
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Root it and flash rom htc totally failed with multitasking
Sent from the depths of hell
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
Rxpert said:
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Are there launchers that are more successfull than others for this phone? Apex? Nova?
STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Supposedly it is but i dont think it has been fully addressed as devs are still making work arounds for it on thw new ota so my guess is yet another fail for htc
Sent from the depths of hell
STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Clear wallet settings before flashing just to be sure if you're worried about that.
Unlock and root your phone, follow the 1.15 flashing instructions and get cm10, it will feel like a new phone. Well worth any risk (which IMO is low following instructions).
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I think something might be wrong with your phone. We've taken a dive into these phones the last couple of weeks. I got an EVO Lte first. It came with the newest update. So I rooted, but no s-off, of course. Running stock ROM. Runs great. No complaints, except the multi-tasking, of course. No lags, though.
MIL decided to move into a smartphone and got the same phone a few days ago, with my help. Left it completely stock and worked on it extensively loading apps, configuring it, etc. I notice zero difference between the phones. Same performance, no lag on either one, etc.
P.S. Wife picked up an S3 on Saturday. I'm in charge of setting it up, too. I expected to be realy wowwed by it. But after a couple of days of playing with it, I think I like the Evo better. I like both phones, but I think I made the right choice for me. It would be nice if HTC was as developer friendly as Samsung, though.
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
Sometimes after just flashing a new ROM its a good idea to factory reset first, it gets tested for the device intended and released for others but an image is basically a snapshot of the ROM and everything in it, when you factory restore a new ROM, you really start fresh
STIDRIVER said:
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
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I hope you have better luck than I did. The lag came back. So far, minus the last few things that aren't working properly, CM10 is the way to go. It's like a whole new phone. No Lag, smooth as butter, no more waiting for Sense to load, just a much better all around experience. Thanks to Toast and Deck, incredible work!
Still running like a champ... I think the phone was just confused with activation, setup and the evil AirRave that hates all my phones... Factory reset seems to have worked. Trying to hold off on root/rom for now...
Background: Updated my ICS unlocked i9300 to JB finally last night.
Can anyone advise why when i was on ICS, i was experiencing no lag at all and the entire experience was really nice, but now i have upgrade to JB the experience is very poor due to allot of lag and general system slowness? For example, if i kill the messaging app from long pressing the home key (with a kill all open tasks), when i re-open the messaging i will be greeted with only phone numbers on the display initially but then after a sec or 2 the names and pics are populated. Also another exapmle would be the keyboard (stock one), when clicking in the URL box of any browser or in the messaging app (again stock as before), the keyboard takes quite some time to appear!?!
It seems very odd to me as JB is supposed to be very good with it's "butter" but is not performing for me at all in the way it should?!?
Any help greatly appreciated as i now no-longer like my phone very much :crying:
kil43 said:
Background: Updated my ICS unlocked i9300 to JB finally last night.
Can anyone advise why when i was on ICS, i was experiencing no lag at all and the entire experience was really nice, but now i have upgrade to JB the experience is very poor due to allot of lag and general system slowness? For example, if i kill the messaging app from long pressing the home key (with a kill all open tasks), when i re-open the messaging i will be greeted with only phone numbers on the display initially but then after a sec or 2 the names and pics are populated. Also another exapmle would be the keyboard (stock one), when clicking in the URL box of any browser or in the messaging app (again stock as before), the keyboard takes quite some time to appear!?!
It seems very odd to me as JB is supposed to be very good with it's "butter" but is not performing for me at all in the way it should?!?
Any help greatly appreciated as i now no-longer like my phone very much :crying:
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Guess what???
Problem is not jellybean... its you.
There's no way jellybean is very slow compare to your ics..
If ics is faster for you then go back to the ics.
I got the exict same problem ! the main theme ringtone in the start booting screen plays but no video just black screen with the sound.. Afrer it boots its very very laggy and after like 15min the phone freez with black screen.
i got the update today im from kuwait .
Seems as if wiping cache and dalvik has been forgotten. ..
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'Crest+', very unhelpful answer and the type of answer you'd expect from dumb asses that use nokia. If you bothered searching the net you'd realise that this issue has affected allot of people and i thought i'd ask the experts at xda - but i guess trollers have made it here as well.
Wiping was not done in my case due to the fact that it was not advised to do so via any point of the update and should have been setup to be more like the upgrade from froyo to GB and actually worked properly without having to do so on other devices. Why would anyone want to wipe the cache and dalvik if not prompted to do so via the official process?!?
Did u try factory reat?
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Did u try factory reat?
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No as it was not required but it would appear this is the only possible resolve... Joy, time to backup and restore tonight which knowing kies will take about 4.5 hours...
kil43 said:
'Crest+', very unhelpful answer and the type of answer you'd expect from dumb asses that use nokia. If you bothered searching the net you'd realise that this issue has affected allot of people and i thought i'd ask the experts at xda - but i guess trollers have made it here as well.
Wiping was not done in my case due to the fact that it was not advised to do so via any point of the update and should have been setup to be more like the upgrade from froyo to GB and actually worked properly without having to do so on other devices. Why would anyone want to wipe the cache and dalvik if not prompted to do so via the official process?!?
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and here i thought you were the one trolling...
but since there are people experiencing also..
I apologize for my response earlier..
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Here's what you need to do... try flashing a full firmware from sammobile...probably the latest firmware to make sure its updated...
then flash it using odin... I never experienced this so called lag that's why I answered the question based on my experience.
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and here i thought you were the one trolling...
but since there are people experiencing also..
I apologize for my response earlier..
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Here's what you need to do... try flashing a full firmware from sammobile...probably the latest firmware to make sure its updated...
then flash it using odin... I never experienced this so called lag that's why I answered the question based on my experience.
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Not a problem, i will try the factory reset first as i should have the full latest seeing as it was stock updated through kies last night. Worst case scenario is i go back to custom romming it.
kil43 said:
Not a problem, i will try the factory reset first as i should have the full latest seeing as it was stock updated through kies last night. Worst case scenario is i go back to custom romming it.
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Did it works?
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Did it works?
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Due to me not having much time at the point of needing to format and restore i decided to carry on for a few days until getting the opportunity, but oddly the issue seems to have gone now
The only thing i can link it to is the fact that i ran through all the settings and was greeted with the annoying 'help' popups, and once i cycled through al the menus getting rid of the last popup...no more lag The phone is running very smooth (as it should), but really can't see how the menu aids were slowing it down (if they were), but they are the only thing i can link the issue to :silly:
kil43 said:
Due to me not having much time at the point of needing to format and restore i decided to carry on for a few days until getting the opportunity, but oddly the issue seems to have gone now
The only thing i can link it to is the fact that i ran through all the settings and was greeted with the annoying 'help' popups, and once i cycled through al the menus getting rid of the last popup...no more lag The phone is running very smooth (as it should), but really can't see how the menu aids were slowing it down (if they were), but they are the only thing i can link the issue to :silly:
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I have tried many jb roms and i have to say that although jb is extremely smooth,I always find it extremely slow compared to good old GB.
I have the feeling that they have sacfificed speed for smoothness!
Same thing on mine Galaxy S3
I've just experienced same thing as you..
Sluggish, laggy.. and everything after i did official update to Jelly Bean..
Resolve:
Turn phone off
VOL UP+HOME+POWER..
Wipe cache...
That's it
At least it's working for me
Cheers
dorianborovina said:
I've just experienced same thing as you..
Sluggish, laggy.. and everything after i did official update to Jelly Bean..
Resolve:
Turn phone off
VOL UP+HOME+POWER..
Wipe cache...
That's it
At least it's working for me
Cheers
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Yeah i did this as well after the post about the guide menus (forgot to post update), and the phone is back to it's glorious state.
sorry ahead of time for the rambling and wall of text.
i have a few questions i suppose. im currently running the latest 4.1.2 release on my razr. stock. i went through 2 phones recently because the update was wreacking havoc on them. before the update i loved my razr. only issue i had was battery life, but i cant lie, was my fault for playing battery hogging games ALOT. lol. so, i got my latest replacement phone. i have the same apps as before, minus a few ive ditched. the phone is feeling laggy/sluggish now. it may partly be from tsf shell, which i love but would ditch if need be to get my phone back, even though it never caused lag before the update.
From reading around the razr isnt getting another update antime soon, if at all. its pretty much on its last leg, as theyre moving away from it im sure. ive tried numerous things to get it running a bit smoother and its helped to an extent, but there is still some lag.
my question is, whats the best way to go from here to getting it running better. ive been rooted before and tried different custom roms, so im not against it, if thats the way to go. if it is, what custom rom is best? if there isnt a 'best' which would you recommend i try? i guess a 4.2.2 rom will probly be suggested. what are the major differences in the 2?
thanks for any opinions and advice.
If it is running slow, you could always use an app like is monitor to see if an app has gone rogue and is using up lots of ram or CPU. I doubt its tsf, as I used that for a very long time on mine without issues.
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Here ya go!
Hey there!
First off, for the lagging problem, I'm positive that your phone probably needs to be cleaned up. The stock JB that you currently have is supposed to be the most stable one there is.
For cleaning up, just get SD Maid, and clean up using all the options available.
WAIT! Can I get one thing straight? You did do a factory reset before upgrading to JB 4.1.1 from ICS, right?
A LOT of problems sprout from this simple fact actually. A factory reset is mandatory when upgrading from one kernel and ROM to another, be it stock or not.
In Custom ROMs, we tend to always encourage full wipes before flashing one ROM over another unless we are only doing a minor, from let's say, Liquidsmooth v2.4 to v2.7. Then, only the cache and dalvik has to be wiped.
Yep. Hope this helped. If the answer to my above question is no (you didn't full wipe), the nI would just recommend you to use TiB, backup all your apps and data, then factory reset and then restore using TiB. That should help.
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the phone im talking about came from the manufacturer by verizon with 4.1.2 on it, so im not sure if it was upgraded that way.
if i have to factory reset, whats the vest way of saving game data so i dont have to start all over?
im currently not rooted. will root if its needed.
thanks for the previous info.
Hmmm. A sticky situation, TBH.
Maybe you can try rooting and then this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
But I haven't quite got experience working with RAZRs which came with 4.1.1 installed..
So try out the app after rooting, and if that doesnt help, factory reset. Backup your apps and their data using Titanium Backup which is available for rooted phones.
If even after that things are laggy, then i suggest getting Liquidsmooth or MoKee Rom. They are pretty fast and lagless.
Hello,
I have my original TF201 and it's between treated extremely carefully and not used a ton. So it's in perfect shape. I reset it sometime ago so that other family members could use it as well. It's back to factory reset with the latest official update on it. I installed several apps that I would commonly use and the performance slowed to where is literally unusable. Clicks take forever to register, pages take minutes to load, etc. I uninstalled as much as I could and that helped somewhat but it's nothing like the performance it used to have. So, from what I've read, I'm thinking that the performance of that last official update is the problem and it might be time to get into rooting and flashing a different ROM. I've rooted before but it's between several years so I'm not an expert.
I just wondered if this sounds like the best thing to do for my performance issues. If so, which ROM would you recommend? I'm not stuck on any particular version of Android more interested in what your experiences are with which ROMs runs the best on this unit. If KatKiss is recommended, would you go for V30 or one of the older ones? Another post said that, at that time (maybe two months ago), people were having issues with V30 and I'm not sure if those issues have been resolved. I'm OK with a Marshmallow, Jellybean ROM too. Just any help on which direction to go would be really wonderful.
Thank you so much!
varaonaid said:
Hello,
I have my original TF201 and it's between treated extremely carefully and not used a ton. So it's in perfect shape. I reset it sometime ago so that other family members could use it as well. It's back to factory reset with the latest official update on it. I installed several apps that I would commonly use and the performance slowed to where is literally unusable. Clicks take forever to register, pages take minutes to load, etc. I uninstalled as much as I could and that helped somewhat but it's nothing like the performance it used to have. So, from what I've read, I'm thinking that the performance of that last official update is the problem and it might be time to get into rooting and flashing a different ROM. I've rooted before but it's between several years so I'm not an expert.
I just wondered if this sounds like the best thing to do for my performance issues. If so, which ROM would you recommend? I'm not stuck on any particular version of Android more interested in what your experiences are with which ROMs runs the best on this unit. If KatKiss is recommended, would you go for V30 or one of the older ones? Another post said that, at that time (maybe two months ago), people were having issues with V30 and I'm not sure if those issues have been resolved. I'm OK with a Marshmallow, Jellybean ROM too. Just any help on which direction to go would be really wonderful.
Thank you so much!
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I found Katkiss LP v26 worked really well. I am now on the Marshmallow version #22 and so far that is really smooth and quick.
Make sure you upgrade to the right bootloader then follow the instructions in the Forums to the letter.
Good luck
I am currently using KatKiss v30. Was in a similar situation to you where my Prime got very little use due to being slow / unusable. KatKiss v30 has been pretty stable for me as long as it is kept below 1.8Ghz, highly recommend trying it out if your Prime is anywhere near as bad as mine used to be.
KatKiss v30 is the way to go !!!!!!! really not much of a difference in user experience with my galaxy tab s2 ))
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
IrethTassartir said:
Hi guys,
I'm sorry cause asking this, especially cause this question has been asked manytimes and I have read several subjects too, but I didn't strict answer I'm looking for.
I recently bought nexus 9 (WiFi only model) 16gigs,
I unlocked bootloader, I rooted the device and now I want to debloat it.
I'm in dilema weither I should just have it rooted and debloated on 7.1.1. android, or should I use some of the custom roms around.
I'm aiming to use tablet mainly for gaming. I have servral games I'd like to play listed:
Marvel Future Fight
DC Legends
Star Wars Galaxy Heroes
Star Wars Force arena
and few others but i take it that if those can run fine, all others would too.
Also can someone point me to a safelist of application that can be removed if answer to first question is to just leave it rooted and debloat.
Thank you a lot for help.
Cheers.
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For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
madbat99 said:
For the best performance, install a custom ROM. As for debloat, ... It's a Nexus, what bloat?
But if you want minimal, I would say flash slimrom and the smallest gapps package that fits your needs. Or go gapps free and use micro g instead.
Performance on stock is pretty bad (really bad), but a custom ROM will fix it for the n9. When I say bad on stock, I mean opening more than 1 tab in chrome, it has to reload the page every time switching between the two. Same with having a couple apps open.
Fortunately, most of the ROMs out there take care of all that.
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I'm on latest Android 6 stock, unencrypted and Fire Ice kernel. its running fine and if use the chrome that comes with the stock and don't update it, it will run fine.
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
IrethTassartir said:
How would someone find official roms? I used pure nexus rom thinking that is official but i guess i was wrong. I not to big on roms knowing. They all looks the same to me I just care to be able to uninstall builtin apps i don't use and that everything works fine.
This one i use now had a problem common with nexus 9, white blocks and anoying skrechy sound, but i read somehwere it is fixed by unhoking battery, cleaning pins and putting it back together. I tried it and I didn't have problems since then. I drained battery to 2% no problem, before it was impossible. I have no idea was it ROM issue or what.
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That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
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That's a common hardware issue for n9, not a ROM issue.
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But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
IrethTassartir said:
But it's safe to say that it's fixed now. Everyone was talkin about disconnecting battery, and clean a bit and connecting again.
it seems such a easy troll solution to this "very anoying and hard problem that even HTC didn't solve", and i did it and it really did the job (knock on a wood ). I've been draining battery to the end for 3 days now, nothing ever like that happend ever again. before it wasn't even a day when i didn't experienced that problem.
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Good to hear. That usually is the fix for that.
Please, just to confirm, is this "image-volantis-n9f27l" official ROM or it's custom ROM?
I also use this bootloader : "bootloader-flounder-3.50.0.0143" since other ones didn't work for me.
I was with support trying to solve issue of Device restarting every time I install new app or update app, and while trying to clear cache partition, it gone to my device not wanting to boot. so i had to factory reset, and it still won't start android in full. so i have to reflash ROM. I guess.
I'm kinda lost now cause i don't know what to do.
As said i just want for my device to be rooted so i can delete all apps i don't need and change launcher (deleting existing one - well i don't know if it's smart or not. i figure why having two launcers when i will use only one).
And i want to play games and use apps without it failing on me all the time.