Hey can anyone help me. I use apps like twilight and blockada and for some reason my phone keeps closing and sleeping these apps on its own. It also does it on signal and I miss notifications.
I have disabled everything I can in battery optimization but nothing seems to stop it from happening.
I worked it out. Under settings there is Performance Optimization. The apps can be turned on there to allow them to run in background. Why this is not in the battery section I don't know. Very confusing and annoying.
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Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
blizeH said:
Hi,
I've recently installed CM10 and for the most part have been happy with the battery performance, however, if I don't remember to switch to airplane mode overnight, the battery drops by almost half by the time I get into work again.
I've noticed that Android OS, System Standby and Maps are all using a lot of battery, which is weird because I haven't used maps, nor have I (to the best of my knowledge) used any apps that would require my location (other than the camera, to take two photos)
http://i.imgur.com/5sWn58I.png
Greenify also backs this up, with maps waking up my device a ridiculous number of times, and Facebook Messenger (which I'm now tempted to uninstall) along with BBC Weather which I have no idea why it's running so frequently that I'm also tempted to uninstall.
http://i.imgur.com/uZQ45Gh.png
Any suggestions on how to optimise things a little here please? I hate the idea of things running in the background and it's something I'm really struggling with since moving from iOS.
Thanks
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with es task manager you can enable and disable start up apps or running apps. this helped me from time to time. good luck
Use Greenify and Autostarts
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
blizeH said:
Thanks both! Will get ES Task Manager now and mess with the startup apps... Autostarts looks fantastic, but since ES is free it edges it for me
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Free does not mean best but try it .
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Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
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Not sure but I think its a Kit Kat issue. I recall having more battery life on JB than on Kitkat with my S4.
There are lots of things you can do.
System Settings
•WiFi - change sleep policy from ALWAYS (staying on) to either "Only when plugged in" or "never"
•Account Sync - under my Google account(s) I only keep CONTACTS and GMAIL checked...the rest unchecked
•Motions, Smart Features, Gestures, Air - Turn ALL of this crap off!
•Animation Scaling- In Developer Options - I use these settings: Window Animation=OFF/ Transition Animation=0.5x/ Animator Duration=0.5x
In-App Settings
•Play Store - In settings, change Auto-Update Apps to Never...you can do this manually from time to time. If not, it'll just always scan.
•App Ops - This can be a little tedious, but go through your apps (especially under Location) and turn location off on whatever you think doesn't need it! You may want to test out each app to be sure it is functioning properly before you move on to the next app. This makes it much easier to go back and enable it again if you see its needed. Most of the Google apps are gonna need it.
Freeze or Uninstall System Apps
•Check out my thread on which system apps you can remove here
***I recommend using NoBloat to make your changes with:good:
Additional apps & Xposed modules to check out
•Greenify - Hands down my favorite battery saving app. If you don't know it, that's why your battery life sucks! Seriously though, GET IT!
•Greenify Donation (Xposed) - Adds several more features, such as allowing system apps to be greenifiable! Also works well with WakeLock Detector
•WakeLock Detector - Helps determine which apps are waking up your phone while its asleep...allows you to prevent future wakeups.
•Gsam Battery Monitor Pro - Not sure if the free version lets you use the monitoring feature or not, but basically it is like a glorified battery usage graph (like in system settings)
•BootManager - Xposed module allowing you to select which apps are able to run in startup. Not sure how it compares with Greenify, but I just use both
•Prevent Running - Also similar to Greenify. I'm in the process of checking this one out, so don't hold me to it being great.
I took this from @calebcabob
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
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Post the log from BetterBatteryStats, that tells all.
GrizzlyBarrn said:
There are lots of things you can do.
System Settings
•WiFi - change sleep policy from ALWAYS (staying on) to either "Only when plugged in" or "never"
•Account Sync - under my Google account(s) I only keep CONTACTS and GMAIL checked...the rest unchecked
•Motions, Smart Features, Gestures, Air - Turn ALL of this crap off!
•Animation Scaling- In Developer Options - I use these settings: Window Animation=OFF/ Transition Animation=0.5x/ Animator Duration=0.5x
In-App Settings
•Play Store - In settings, change Auto-Update Apps to Never...you can do this manually from time to time. If not, it'll just always scan.
•App Ops - This can be a little tedious, but go through your apps (especially under Location) and turn location off on whatever you think doesn't need it! You may want to test out each app to be sure it is functioning properly before you move on to the next app. This makes it much easier to go back and enable it again if you see its needed. Most of the Google apps are gonna need it.
Freeze or Uninstall System Apps
•Check out my thread on which system apps you can remove here
***I recommend using NoBloat to make your changes with:good:
Additional apps & Xposed modules to check out
•Greenify - Hands down my favorite battery saving app. If you don't know it, that's why your battery life sucks! Seriously though, GET IT!
•Greenify Donation (Xposed) - Adds several more features, such as allowing system apps to be greenifiable! Also works well with WakeLock Detector
•WakeLock Detector - Helps determine which apps are waking up your phone while its asleep...allows you to prevent future wakeups.
•Gsam Battery Monitor Pro - Not sure if the free version lets you use the monitoring feature or not, but basically it is like a glorified battery usage graph (like in system settings)
•BootManager - Xposed module allowing you to select which apps are able to run in startup. Not sure how it compares with Greenify, but I just use both
•Prevent Running - Also similar to Greenify. I'm in the process of checking this one out, so don't hold me to it being great.
I took this from @calebcabob
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This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
SUPERSPORT25 said:
This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
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WakeLock detector works great for exactly what you're trying to figure out. Check out the WakeLock guide, it'll show you exactly what it's role is. Once you have it installed, you will sometimes see a scissors icon in Greenify when you have something listed under NOT hibernating or pending...click it! You'll see the option for Greenify to "cut-off" the process chain...this prevents further wakeups from what had specifically started up the process. I highly recommend you take a look at gsam battery monitor (I think that's the name), it will also give you details on which processes are killing your battery.
I am not positive but I think you can disable that security process without any issue. You may want to Google that though.
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SUPERSPORT25 said:
This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
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Short answer...WakeLock only detects, you decide what you need to STOP from there. But there are apps that can utilize WakeLock to detect those battery killers and stop, freeze or remove processes or apps for you...such as Greenify.
Also, I can't stress enough how worth it it is to buy Greenify's experimental features, as it will allow you to get deeper into the whole Greenifying thing!! Hell yes it does:good:
calebcabob said:
WakeLock detector works great for exactly what you're trying to figure out. Check out the WakeLock guide, it'll show you exactly what it's role is. Once you have it installed, you will sometimes see a scissors icon in Greenify when you have something listed under NOT hibernating or pending...click it! You'll see the option for Greenify to "cut-off" the process chain...this prevents further wakeups from what had specifically started up the process. I highly recommend you take a look at gsam battery monitor (I think that's the name), it will also give you details on which processes are killing your battery.
I am not positive but I think you can disable that security process without any issue. You may want to Google that though.
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Short answer...WakeLock only detects, you decide what you need to STOP from there. But there are apps that can utilize WakeLock to detect those battery killers and stop, freeze or remove processes or apps for you...such as Greenify.
Also, I can't stress enough how worth it it is to buy Greenify's experimental features, as it will allow you to get deeper into the whole Greenifying thing!! Hell yes it does:good:
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Yes I pretty much have everything that people have suggested including the experimental version of Greenify. I am running Wakelock Detector, GSAM Battery Monitor, Usage Timelines.
However I am still seeing this Security Process running at about 6% and about 82.45 MB. I am not really experiencing any drain when the phone is sleeping.
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Yes I pretty much have everything that people have suggested including the experimental version of Greenify. I am running Wakelock Detector, GSAM Battery Monitor, Usage Timelines.
However I am still seeing this Security Process running at about 6% and about 82.45 MB. I am not really experiencing any drain when the phone is sleeping.
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Can u post a screenshot of gsam's monitor section? Its the part that has the list of usage...looks similar to the battery monitor screen in Android settings.
I have recently been taking control over the permissions I allow with certain apps with the use of App Ops starter that was included with my LG G3 Android 5.0 update.
I have noticed however that since I have disabled certain permissions for certain apps the battery usage for those apps intermittently skyrocket to using 30% in under an hour at random times. This often happens while the phone is idling and with those apps not even open in my task manager.
Some examples would be disabling the location data for apps such as Facebook's "Messenger" app and also games like Wooga's "Diamond Dash". Google's default "Maps" app is also a culprit after disabling access to contacts/phone.
My guess would be that these apps are stuck in some loop constantly checking for the information they no longer have access to.
Can anyone comment as to having similar results? Can anyone make suggestions as to possible things I could do on my end?
I have tried to re-enable the permissions to verify the results however as this is not an issue that affects the battery constantly but only intermittently I'm unsure as to whether I am right in my assumptions and there was one instance where I had re-enabled all the permissions for Facebook's "Messenger" yet it still consumed significant amounts of battery while being closed and the phone in it's idle state.
osiris231 said:
I have recently been taking control over the permissions I allow with certain apps with the use of App Ops starter that was included with my LG G3 Android 5.0 update.
I have noticed however that since I have disabled certain permissions for certain apps the battery usage for those apps intermittently skyrocket to using 30% in under an hour at random times. This often happens while the phone is idling and with those apps not even open in my task manager.
Some examples would be disabling the location data for apps such as Facebook's "Messenger" app and also games like Wooga's "Diamond Dash". Google's default "Maps" app is also a culprit after disabling access to contacts/phone.
My guess would be that these apps are stuck in some loop constantly checking for the information they no longer have access to.
Can anyone comment as to having similar results? Can anyone make suggestions as to possible things I could do on my end?
I have tried to re-enable the permissions to verify the results however as this is not an issue that affects the battery constantly but only intermittently I'm unsure as to whether I am right in my assumptions and there was one instance where I had re-enabled all the permissions for Facebook's "Messenger" yet it still consumed significant amounts of battery while being closed and the phone in it's idle state.
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You are right on why it's happening. If they can't get the info they are programmed for then they keep trying. Not a whole lot you can do really. As long as they are programmed to try and get the info then they will keep trying.
I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
eng3 said:
I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
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- Greenify won't directly free up memory
- sluggishness is likely do to multiple apps/services competing for resources when the device wakes; that's why native doze has occational maintenance windows
- aggressive doze can contribute to this behavior
- consider a start-up (broadcast receiver) blocker if the social media apps you reference are found running after the device starts; that way they never get loaded into memory in the first place
Can you recommenced a start-up blocker? this means the app will never be launched into memory unless I do it manually?
I thought that "greenify" will "compress" the program in memory causing it to use less. I don't want the app to be completely disabled (otherwise I could just freeze it). For example, if someone sends me a message on facebook (which is very rare), I'd like to know.
please help against an impending cwm restore/full install. ive went through a bunch of service killer apps like greenify, amplify, servicely, other battery savers. they just dont seem to be able to handle android os.
searching up some stuff and people do have issues. ive also tried clearing caches in recovery, but that seems to be daily as the draining pops back up within a couple of days.
i tend to turn off everthing except standard network because i only want phone and text to wake me up when im asleep, not emails, updates, statuses and whatnot. sometimes disabling their services wont do much as they can reactivate them later on.
usually im gappsless. but this time around i decided to also install greenify+donation. it works 'half' the times but services are alive and well.
so id like to make some requests. as ive said, im usually gappsless, so id prefer fully functional free alternatives. please suggest some for greenify and amplify.